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MINUTES <br />OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE <br />EDINA CITY COUNCIL HELD AT CITY H <br />OCTOBER 19, 1987 <br />49 <br />Answering rollcall were Members Kelly, Turner and Mayor Courtney. <br />CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ADOPTED. <br />Member Kelly to approve and adopt the consent agenda items as presented. <br />Motion was made by Member Turner and seconded by <br />Rollcall : <br />Ayes: Kelly, Turner, Courtney <br />Motion carried. <br />*MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21 AND BUDGET MEETINGS OF <br />SEPTEMBER 8. 15 AND 17, 1987 APPROVED. Motion vas made by Member Turner and <br />seconded by Member Kelly to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of <br />September 21, and Bu'dget Meetings of September 8, 15 and 17, 1987 as presented. <br />Motion carried on rollcall vote, three ayes. <br />PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVED FOR NOB HILL (MARNIE DEVELOPMENT, INC.): Affidavits of <br />Notice were presented by Clerk, approved and ordered placed on file. <br />Craig Larsen presented the request of Marnie Development, Inc. for preliminary <br />plat approval for Nob Hill, generally located south of West 66th Street and west <br />of Highway 100. The subject property measures approximately 5.05 acres in size. <br />Four property owners have combined all or portions of their property in this <br />proposed subdivision. The subdivision would create five new buildable lots; <br />Lots 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8 would be new lots and Lots 1, 5 and 6 would be retained for <br />existing dwellings. <br />34,600 square feet in size with an average size of 29,795 square feet. The <br />proposed new lots would be served by the extension of Nob Hill Drive; currently <br />Nob Hill Drive exists to the southerly boundary of the property. Right of way for <br />this extension was dedicated by the Oak Ridge of Edina plat. <br />proposed plat meet or exceed the Zoning Ordinance requirements for single family <br />lots. <br />Council the City commissioned Barr Engineering to do a storm water analysis of the <br />area to determine impact of further development in the internal portion of the <br />area. For purposes of analysis, Barr Engineering assumed 17 additional lots would <br />be developed following the Oak Ridge of Edina plat which was significantly more <br />dwellings that are now proposed. <br />development of 17 new lots there would be adequate storm water capacity. <br />Larsen advised that this request was heard by the Community Development and <br />Planning Commission on two occasions. <br />with two failing to meet the standard for lot width. The Commission referred it <br />back for study and also criticized the road grades and widths and requested more <br />detail on the use of retaining walls that would be required. <br />returned with a revised plat that complied with ordinance requirements, reduced <br />the number of lots to five, reduced the grade for the proposed extension of Nob <br />Hill Drive and provided a detailed plan as to how the retaining walls would be <br />constructed. Given those revisions, the Commission recommended preliminary plat <br />approval subject to: 1) Final plat approval, 2) Subdivision dedication, 3) Grading <br />permit from Nine Mile Creek Watershed District, and 4) Developer's agreement which <br />would include specifications for retaining walls and a street width between <br />24 and 28 feet in order to save some of the trees. Mr. Larsen advised that Robert <br />Engstrom, representing the developer, was present to respond to questions. Eva <br />May, 5023 Knob Hill Drive, explained that she lives on the property adjacent to <br />proposed Lot 8. <br />retaining wall to be constructed and the potential traffic hazard because'of the <br />grade incline of the street. Ed Curtiss, 5009 Nob Hill Drive, said that he was <br />concerned about the retaining wall and the effect of the failure plane on the <br />adjacent property as he felt there was an error in the sketch submitted by the <br />consultant as to the actual street elevation. He added that he was also concerned <br />about the capacity of the pond to contain water run-off in the future. Member <br />Turner asked for an explanation of the proposed retaining walls and the pond <br />capacity. <br />and the road grades and the relationship to the Mae property. <br />said that the Timber Ridge development has grades and conditions that are more <br />severe in terms of construction. <br />to hold the area that would meet the failure plane criteria. A second graphic <br />illustrated the location and type of the trees on the site and indicated the right <br />of way for both a 24 and 28 foot street. <br />within the roadway construction area and that the grading plan could be modified <br />before final plat approval. As to the pond, Engineer Hoffman explained that the <br />water level is unusually high now because of the 11 inch rainfall this summer. <br />There is an outfall pipe which allows storm water to drain down to Nine Mile <br />Creek. support of the subdivision, Mr. Engstrom stated that he felt they had <br />done an excellent job in responding to the concerns of the neighbors, had gone to <br />considerable expense to retain the existing oak trees on the site and are <br />proposing to develop it at less density than would be permitted under the Zoning <br />Ordinance. Richard Schulze, 5015 Nob Hill Drive, said he was concerned about <br />storm water run-off from the site and whether the existing storm sewer system <br />would be adeouate to handle water cominE from two directions so that he would not <br />Planner <br />The new lots would range in size from approximately 23,200 to <br />All lots in the <br />At the time the Oak Ridge of Edina plat was considered and approved by the <br />Their analysis concluded that even with the <br />Planner <br />The first proposal illustrated six new lots <br />The proponents <br />She expressed her concerns about the height and proximity of the <br />Engineer Fran Hoffman presented a graphic showing the retaining walls <br />In comparison, he <br />He stated that a retaining wall could be built <br />He noted that a number of trees are <br />In