HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-07-15 PacketMinutes of the Regular Meeting of the
Energy and Environment Commission
Edina City Hall Community Room
Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 7:00 P.M.
Members In Attendance and Roll Call:
Bill Sierks, Surya Iyer, Julie Risser, Jeannie Hanson, Steve Christianson, Michael
Platteter, Dianne Plunkett Latham, Raymond O'Connell
Absent: M. Germana Paterlini, Hailey Lee, Paul Thompson
Staff Present: Jane Timm, Matt Laue
1. Welcome & Roll Call
2. Discussion and Approval of Agenda.
Commissioner Platteter made a motion to approve the meeting
agenda. Commissioner O'Connell seconded. Motion carried.
3. Approval of the June 17, 2009 Meeting Minutes.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to approve the minutes of the
June 17, 2009 meeting with amendments. Commissioner Christianson
seconded. Motion carried.
4. Community Comment
Karen Shragg, Director of Woodlake Nature Center gave an overview of the
Audubon Program at Braemar and Fred Richards and explained the process of
certification of open spaces with Audubon International.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to recommend the Park Board
apply for Audubon certification at Bredesen Park and to consider other
parks in the future. Commissioner O'Connell seconded. Motion carried.
5. Work Group Updates
Water Quality Work Group
The first meeting will be held July 20, 2009 at 7 p.m.
Climate Change Work Group
Chair Iyer reviewed the Climate Change Report in the Energy and
Environment monthly packet.
Education and Outreach Work Group
Commissioner Risser gave an updated schedule of "Our Clean Energy
Future" event August 18, 2009. There was also a discussion regarding Xcel
Energy as a sponsor.
Commissioner Risser made a motion to make a formal
recommendation to Dick Crockett to reach out to Xcel Energy and
CenterPoint Energy, invite and ask them to be a sponsor of the "Our
Clean Energy Future" event. Commissioner Sierks seconded. Motion
carried.
Recycling and Solid Waste Work Group
Commissioner Latham gave an update of the survey the group is putting
together to send to residents of Edina.
6. Commission Business
Commissioner Latham went over the changes to the bylaws to comply with
the City Code changes. Commissioner Latham gave notice that a formal
vote would be taken at the August 2009 Commission meeting.
There was a discussion about the Energy and Environment Commission
structure. Six topics were identified and put together with contact persons
assigned to each topic.
• Carbon Measurement and Procurement Commissioner Paterlini
• Renewable Energy Commissioner Hanson
• Air & Water Quality
• Green Building Code
• Education & Outreach
• Recycling & Solid Waste
Commissioner Christianson
Commissioner Platteter
Commissioner Thompson
Commissioner Latham
Commissioner Latham made a motion to have the following contact
persons responsible for the following topics:
Commissioner Paterlini Carbon Measurement and Procurement
Commissioner Hanson Renewable Energy
Commissioner Christianson Air & Water Quality
Commissioner Platteter Green Building Code
Commissioner Thompson Education & Outreach
Commissioner Latham Recycling & Solid Waste
Commissioner Hanson seconded. Motion carried.
There was a discussion of the agenda and the meeting structure. Chair
Iyer will put the agenda together differently for the next meeting with no
Working Group Reports.
The Natural Step Framework Seminar Plan that was on the agenda was not
discussed due to lack of time.
The EPA Climate Showcase Communities grant/timelines that was on the
agenda was not discussed due to lack of time.
7. Adjournment
Commissioner O'Connell made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner
Risser seconded. Motion carried. The meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
The next meeting will be the regularly scheduled meeting at 7:00 p.m.
August 19, 2009 in the Community Room.
Respectfully submitted,
Jane M. Timm, Secretary
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the
Energy and Environment Commission
Edina City Hall Community Room
Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 7:00 P.M.
Members In Attendance and Roll Call: Bill Sierks, Surya Iyer, Julie Risser,
Jeannie Hanson, Steve Christianson, Michael Platteter, Dianne Plunkett Latham,
Raymond O'Connell, M. Germana Paterlini, Hailey Lee, Paul Thompson
Absent:
Staff Present: Jane Timm
1. Welcome & Roll Call
2. Discussion and Approval of Agenda.
Commissioner O'Connell made a motion to approve the meeting
agenda with an amendment. Commissioner Christianson seconded.
Motion carried.
3. Approval of the July 15, 2009 Meeting Minutes.
Commissioner Risser made a motion to approve the minutes of the
July 15, 2009 meeting with amendments. Commissioner Hanson
seconded. Motion carried.
Approval of the July 27, 2009 Special Meeting Minutes.
Commissioner Christianson made a motion to approve the minutes of
the special meeting of July 27, 2009. Commissioner Lee seconded.
Motion carried.
4. Community Comment
The scheduled speaker, Michael Juras, was not able to attend the meeting due
to an illness.
5. Commission Business
A special appreciation for all the hard work at the August 18, 2009 event was
given to the Commissioners from Chair Iyer.
There was a discussion about the approval of the Energy and Environment
Bylaws.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to approve the Energy and
Environment final draft of the bylaws. Commissioner Christianson
seconded. Motion carried.
There was a discussion about a proposed letter to the City Council
regarding the Drive -Through at 4420 Valley View Road and the amendment
of City Code concerning the regulation of Drive -Through facilities. Some
key points were:
• Ordinance change vs. approval of a variance at that one location.
• Encouragement to bike and walk to the location.
• Let the City Council know the Commission opposed Drive -Through
facilities.
Commissioner O'Connell made a motion to approve a team of four
commissioners to re -write the Drive -Through letter to be delivered to
the City Council with the approved amendments. Commissioner
Christianson seconded. Motion carried.
There was an update from Commissioner Sierks about the Climate
Showcase Grant. An application was submitted and a decision would be
announced in September 2009. Commission requested that city staff let
them know the proposed use of the grant monies.
There was a discussion on an invitation that Mayor Hovland received
regarding Solar America Workshop. Commission members did not support
attendance for the following reasons:
• Organization was too new.
• Solar Industry development in the City of Edina was not likely.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to not recommend Mayor
Hovland's attendance at the Solar America Workshop. Commissioner
Hanson seconded. Motion carried.
There was a lengthy discussion about the structure of the working groups
and the commission. There were many points of view discussed.
• Each working group define one goal and make an effort to
accomplish that goal.
• Decide which projects would be done.
• Meet ICLEI Milestone II.
• Create a Policy and Project Subcommittee.
• Grant application process for commissioners.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to dissolve the Climate Change
Working Group. Commissioner Thompson seconded. Motion carried.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to form a Renewable Energy
Working Group. Commissioner Hanson seconded. Motion carried.
Chair Iyer appointed Commissioner Hanson as Chairperson of the
Renewable Energy Working Group.
Commissioner Hanson made a motion to publish the "Join Us"
postcard in the Sun Current. Commissioner Lee seconded. Motion
carried.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to form a Policy & Project
Subcommittee. Commissioner Sierks seconded. Motion carried.
Chair Iyer appointed Commissioner Sierks and Commissioner Platteter as
Co -Chairs to the Policy and Project Subcommittee.
Commissioner Hanson made a motion to allow herself to apply for the
Cynthia Kreig Grant to receive money for trees that would be planted
at Pamela Park and to do an algae to oil demonstration project in
cooperation with Water Quality Working Group with Park and
Recreation Department approval. Commissioner Christianson
seconded. Motion carried.
Commissioner Latham made a motion to put forward to the Park Board
a request to plant up to 350 trees. Commissioner Sierks seconded.
Motion carried.
6. Adjournment
Commissioner O'Connell made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner
Risser seconded. Motion carried. The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
The next meeting will be the regularly scheduled meeting at 7:00 p.m.
September 16, 2009 in the Community Room.
Respectfully submitted,
Jane M. Timm, Secretary
EDINA PUBLIC MEETING PROCEDURES
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ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT COMMISSION
AGENDA FOR MEETING
August 19, 2009, 7:00 PM — 9:00 PM
1) Welcome, Call to Order, and Roll Call (2 min)
2) Discussion and Approval of Agenda and Agenda times (3 min)
3) Public Comment (10 min)
Michael Juras (Com. Thompson invitee) (5 min)
4) Commission Business
Final approval of by-laws (5 min)
Drive through ordinance: Letter to Council (10 min)
Climate showcase grant: Summary (5 min)
Solar America Workshop Invitation to Mayor — EEC advice (5 min)
Closure of EEC working group structure / overall goals (45 min)
Alternative energy objectives (20 min)
Other (at discretion of Chair) (10 min)
5) Adjourn
The City of Edina wants all residents to be comfortable being part of the public process. If you
need assistance in the way of hearing amplification, an interpreter, large -print documents or
something else, please call 952-927-8861 72 hours in advance of the meeting.
Special Meeting of the Edina Energy and Environment Commission
July 27, 2009, Community Room, Edina City Hall
Members in attendance: Julie Risser, Germana Paterlini, Paul Thompson, Michael Platteter, Steven
Christianson, Hailey Lee.
Member of the Public: Bob Kojetin, of the Historical Society and the 9 -Mile Creek Organization
Commissioner Risser called the meeting to order at 5:30 pm.
Commissioner Risser read the proposed Resolution for recommendations to the Park Board on the
Proposed Park Improvements. Germana Paterlini asked why the Park and Recreation Department was
proposing Astro Turf for the field. Mr. Kojetin suggested that one of the reasons could be savings from
water irrigation and maintenance. Environmental downsides from the AstroTurf installation were voiced
by Commissioners. Germana Paterlini moved to approve the Resolution, Paul Thompson seconded, all
approved, motion carried.
Commissioner Risser moved to the second item of the agenda: approval of "EEC Seek Volunteers"
announcement, to be published on the Sun Current. Commissioner Christianson suggested replacing
"make our City greener and to counteract global warming" with the language already present in the
bylaws. Steven Christianson suggested that the words "working groups" be replaced with "interest
areas". Commissioner Platteter suggested striking "Green Building Code" for the list of choices.
Commissioner Christianson moved to approve the "EEC Seek Volunteers" announcement, as amended
with his and Platteter comments. Commissioner Lee seconded, all approved, motion carried.
Commissioner Risser moved the third item on the agenda: approval of funds for the videotaping of the
Will Steger, Bill McKibben event on August 18. Cost is $50/hour, for up to 3 hours. Germana Paterlini and
Mike Platterer asked for availability of the recording, either on iTune or on CD. Paul Thompson moved to
approve funding the videotaping by the EEC. Commissioner Lee seconded, all approved, motion carried.
Commissioner Paterlini moved to adjourn the meeting, Commissioner Lee seconded. The meeting was
adjourned at 5:55pm.
Proposed Objectives for the Proposed Alternative Energies Sub -Committee
We hope to reduce the City of Edina's carbon footprint and do so in ways that will be
visible examples for citizens to consider doing for themselves and with their volunteer
groups:
1) Install small axial flow wind turbines for lighting.
a) Start Date: Engineering study September 2009. First turbine installed mid -
2010.
b) 50kw to I OOkw, efficient design.
c) CO2 savings: about .10 tons per hour.
d) Locations: Centennial Lakes main building, York Ave Fire Station,
Arneson Acres, as possibilities.
e) Cost: $50,000 per installation.
2) Install small wind turbines for educational purposes.
a) Start Date: Engineering study October 2009. First turbine installed early
2010.
b) 5kw to 20kw, novel design, to develop interest in carbon offset (we have
some examples).
c) CO2 savings: about 2 pounds per kwhr.
d) Location: an Edina school.
e) Cost: $10,000 per installation.
3) Purchase a large-scale turbine to be Installed for Us in the Minnesota prairie wind
farm area.
a) Start Date: Engineering study August 2009. Energy agreement complete
mid -2010.
b) Full-size 3 megawatt Vestas (or other) to offset 11.1 % of Edina's CO2
with wind evergy.
c) CO2 savings: about 2.8 tons per hour (one ton CO2 per MWhr).
d) Locations: Edina City Hall (2.8 MW electrical requirement). Another
target: Braemar complex.
e) Location of turbine/grid connection facility: suitable Minnesota wind farm
area.
f) Cost: $4 million installed asset value: Could be lease -back arrangement.
4) Plant 100 Trees on City's Boulevard Spaces.
a) Start Date: Fall, 2009
b) 4-10 trees (to avoid mower) and those low in foliage (to avoid interference
with motorist sight lines).
c) CO2 savings: more than 1 ton of carbon per tree over its lifetime, thus 100
tons.
d) Locations: street/highway areas, homeowner easement areas.
e) Cost: c. $6500 (includes planting)
5) Help to Preserve At Least 25 Existing Trees in Construction Areas
a) Start Date: as soon as Planning Commission would like our help.
b) Carbon Savings: depends upon the age and size of the trees.
c) Cost: nominal.
6) Install a Working Algae -To -Oil Demonstration Project
a) Start Date: June, 2010.
b) Work with U. of M. researcher Dr. Roger Ruan and post-doc Min Minn to
set up system in Edina.
c) Air-dried algae will then be delivered to him for his research.
d) Carbon savings: none now, but they're getting algae to biodiesel at a rate
of 8%.
e) Location: Rosland Park dock or Lake Pamela
7) Install solar traffic lights and/or City Hall panel and/or school panel
a) Will be coordinated by new subcommittee member(s) if any are interested.
b) Carbon savings and cost: to be determined.
8) Survey and Signage at one city park
a) Start Date: Planning, September -December, 2009. Survey Date: late May -
June, 2010. Signage Creation/Installation: August, 2010.
b) Under the "Bio Blitz" model, though possibly contracted through the
University's Bell Museum professors & curators in various areas,
survey/list/present to the Edina public a list of the living creatures at the
selected city park on one selected day.
c) Using some of this information create/have built/install 5-10 natural wood
signs within the park, constructed from dead tree(s)' wood with simple
"woodburning" style text.
d) Carbon savings: none.
e) Location: Pamela Park or Bredesen Park
f) Cost: $3000? $5000?
9) Apply for Cynthia Krieg grant ($5000 maximum ever awarded) through the
Minnehaha Creek Watershed District for either objective 4, 6, or 8.
a) Start Date: city approval by August 30 (first stage of proposal due
September)
10) Highland School Project
a) Might involve wind turbine and solar panel mentioned above.
b) Could involve delivery of the dried algae to the U. of M. lab.
c) Other projects.
d) Will be coordinated by soon -to -be -group subcommittee member Julie
Jones.
e) Carbon savings and cost: to be determined.
11) Work with City & EEC's Bill Sierks to Incorporate Alternative Energies into the
Design of the New Con -Agra Building—Grant is in
a) We have some info on one kind of geothermal.
b) Rest to be determined.
BY-LAWS OF THE CITY OF EDINA
ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT COMMISSION
OFFICES:
1. The principal office of the Commission shall be at 4801 West 50th Street in
the City of Edina, County of Hennepin, State of Minnesota, 55424
2. The Members of the Commission may designate, for administrative
convenience, the legal address of the Edina City Hall as an office for
receipt and transmittal of Commission communications.
MEMBERS:
3. Membership. The Commission shall consist of I,e even members _ _ _ _ , _ -i Deleted: nine
appointed by the Mayor with the consent of the majority of the Council.
One member of the Commission shall be a high school student with full
voting rights. All members of the Commission shall be residents of the
City and shall be appointed for a term of three years, except that a student
member shall be appointed for a term of one year. Of the I,�even------------ Deleted: nine
members, one member shall also be a member of the Planning
Commission and one member shall also be a member of the Park Board.
Members shall serve until a successor has been appointed. Upon
termination of a member's term, that member's successor shall be
appointed for the remainder of such term. Members of the Commission
shall serve without compensation and may resign voluntarily or be
removed by a majority vote of the Council pursuant to Section 180 of this
Code. Commission members who discontinue legal residency in the City
may be removed from office by the Mayor with the consent of a majority of
the Council.
DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE COMMISSION:
4.The Commission shall:
A. Examine and recommend best practices for energy conservation for
Edina's citizens and businesses, including recommendations for a "green"
building code, use of Energy Star appliances, and other energy reduction
targets.
B. Examine and recommend changes in City Government purchasing and
operations to conserve energy.
C. Evaluate and monitor the provision of a residential recycling program.
D. Evaluate and monitor the provision of a privately provided solid waste
program, as well as a reduction in municipal solid waste produced by
Edina residents and businesses.
E. Evaluate and encourage improvements in air and water quality.
F. Promote the establishment of targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas
emissions produced by the City's buildings, equipment and operations.
G. Educate the public about energy issues, reduction, conservation, reuse,
recycling and environmental protection.
H. Examine and promote renewable energy options for transportation,
heating, and cooling, and other energy uses.
I. Prepare such studies, reports and recommendations as the Council may
request.
MEETINGS OF MEMBERS:
5. The Commission shall hold meetings monthly at 4801 West 50th Street in
the City of Edina, Minnesota.
6. A majority of the members of the Commission shall be requisite and shall
constitute a quorum at all meetings of the members for the transaction of
business. If, however, such majority shall not be present within 30
minutes of the scheduled starting time, the members present shall have
power to adjourn the meeting or continue as a work session posting the
minutes in either case.
7. At each meeting of the members, each member shall be entitled to one
vote. All elections shall be had and all questions decided by a plurality
vote.
8. Special meetings of the members for any purpose or purposes may be
called by the Commission Chairperson, or upon the request of a majority
of Commission members.
9. All regular and special meetings of the Commission at which official action
is taken shall be public meetings, and no person shall be excluded there
from.
10. The Commission may request assignment of a staff secretary from the
City. If a secretary is assigned by the City, the secretary shall perform
only such clerical duties on behalf of the Commission as may be assigned
by the Chairperson with the consent of the City Manager.
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OFFICERS:
11. The officers of the Commission shall consist of a Chairperson and Vice -
Chairperson. Both officers shall be elected by a majority vote of the
Commission members at each February meeting for a term to end at the
next February meeting.
12. In the absence of the Chairperson or Vice -Chairperson, a Chairperson Pro
Tem can be appointed by the members present.
13. The officers shall hold office until their successors are chosen and qualify
in their stead.
CHAIRPERSON:
14. The Chairperson shall preside at all meetings of the Commission. The
Chairperson shall sign all documents approved by the Commission. The
Chairperson shall prepare agendas for each meeting of the Commission.
If. Working Groups are established by the Commission under Paragraph Deleted: Committee
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17, the Chairperson shall, with the approval of a majority of Commission
members, appoint the chair of each _Working Group for a_term to end at - _ _ _ _ - Deleted: committee
the next February meeting. A _Working Group Chair maybe rem- ov_ e_ d by ------ Deleted: committee
the Chairperson with approval of the majority of the Commission.
VICE -CHAIRPERSON:
15. The Vice -Chairperson, in the absence or disability of the Chairperson,
shall perform the duties and exercise the powers of the Chairperson and
shall perform such other duties as the Commission shall prescribe.
RULES OF ORDER:
16. The rules of parliamentary procedure comprised in the latest edition of
Robert's Revised Rules of Order shall govern the Commission in its
deliberations except where they are in conflict with the By -Laws. In the
event of conflict, the By -Laws shall take precedence. Rules may be
amended at any meeting by a majority vote. The order of business may
be suspended at any meeting by mutual agreement or by a majority vote.
WORKING GROUPS: _ - Deleted: COMMITTEE
17. A majority vote of the Commission shall authorize suchWorking Groups - - _ _ _ - Deleted: committee
as it deems appropriate and shall define their scope and duration. Each_ _ _ - - - Deleted:
Working Group shall be chaired by a member of the commission and_may_ _ _ _ _.Deleted: committee
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include other commissioners, city staff, and residents of the community.
Such members shall be recommended to the Commission by the W, orking _ _ - - Deleted: Committee
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Group Chair and must be confirmed. by a majority vote of the Commission.
AFWorkinq-Group _member may be removed by the Working Group Chair Meted: committee
upon approval of a majority of the Commission.�ejeted: committee
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
18. No member shall use their position on this Commission for financial gain
for themselves or for others. If such gain could reasonably be expected,
the member shall abstain from voting.
AMENDMENTS:
19. These By -Laws may be amended by the affirmative vote of a quorum at
any meeting of the Commission called for that purpose; provided that the
substance of the proposed amendment shall have been submitted in
writing to the members at least ten (10) days prior to such meeting.
History: Adopted 2-16-08; amended 8-19-09
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To: Edina City Council
From: Energy & Environment Commission
RE: Amendment to Ordinance 850 2009.0004.09c, regarding drive through facilities
A change to the above ordinance will increase the number of establishments allowed to do
business using drive -troughs. The EEC would like to bring to your attention the negative impact of the
proposed changes. Idling of passenger cars and commercial vehicles during the winter and summer
months contributes to indoor and outdoor air degradation. Indoor air quality diminishes when idling
vehicles are parked near buildings. Idling is particularly problematic when it occurs around places
where children with developing lungs are at play such as schools and daycare facilities. New Horizons
Day Care is half a block down from the Wooddale Valley View intersection, the site of the proposed
drive through.
In drafting the Environmental Chapter (Chapter 10) of the 2008 Comprehensive Plan, the EEC
recommended greater education of motorists, signage at problematic sites, a city ordinance and
lobbying for a state law banning idling. This proposed ordinance amendment actually moves in the
opposite direction by encouraging coffee shops and juice bars to vend to customers while they remain
in their vehicles.
The City Staff has enthusiastically embraced non -idling education by promoting a price -
winning video on proper car maintenance and winter driving behavior. We wish City Staff to continue
promoting non -idling, including careful drafting of ordinances that, enhance, and not reverse, current
non -idling policies.
Edina is recognized for its sense of community and excellent business environment, as seen in the high
concentration of establishments such as banks and coffee shops. Such establishments are thriving and
there is no evidence that customers avoid them because of inconvenience from lack of drive-through.
It is unclear how Edina businesses can benefit from more drive-through establishments, but the
health and environmental impact on Edina residents is certain. For this reason, the EEC respectfully
recommends that the above ordinance not be changed.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT
Originator
Meeting Date
Agenda #
Cary Teague
July 29, 2009
2009.0004.09b
Director of Planning
Brief Description
Richards & Wanninger, LLC have made a request to amend the City's Zoning
Ordinance to allow restaurants to have a drive-through window in the PCD -1
Zoning District. (See request on pages Al—A3.) The purpose of the request is to
allow Bull Run Coffee to utilize the existing drive-through window at the Clancy's
site at 4420 Valley View Road. They would offer coffee and pastry sales through
the window. Prima Restaurant would be sharing the building with the coffee
establishment, but Bull Run Coffee would operate the drive-through window.
Information & Background
Currently the PCD -1 district allows drive-through facilities, except those that are
accessory to financial institutions and food establishments. A coffee shop is
considered a food establishment. Clancy's Drug Store has a drive-through
window on the east side of their building. (See page A3.)
The City's current drive-through facility standards are as follows:
A. Number of Stacking Spaces in Addition to the Vehicle(s) Being Served.
1. Financial institutions: 3 stacking spaces per bay
2. Car wash: 25 stacking spaces per bay
3. Accessory car wash: 2 stacking spaces per bay
4. All other uses: 4 stacking spaces per bay
B. Location of Stacking Space.
1. No stacking space shall encroach into any drive aisle necessary for the
circulation of vehicles.
2. All stacking spaces shall provide the same setbacks as are required by
this Section for parking spaces.
3. In the case of uses described in subparagraph 4. of paragraph A. of
Subd. 14 above, if the drive-through bay is equipped with a facility for
placing an order which is separated from the location at which the
product or merchandise is received by the customer, not less than
three of the required stacking spaces shall be provided at the ordering
point.
C. Minimum Size of Stacking Space. The minimum size of each stacking
space shall be nine feet wide by 18 feet deep.
D. Accessory Canopies and Mechanical Equipment. All canopies and
equipment appurtenant to a drive-through facility shall provide the same
setbacks as are required for principal buildings.
E. Facilities Accessory to Restaurants. Drive-through facilities accessory to
restaurants shall be limited to two service bays.
The Clancy's window meets this criterion, as it would fit the "All other use"
category. A coffee shop would also fit into the "All other use" category, as the
Code is currently written. However, food establishments are not allowed a drive-
through window in the PCD -1 District, as demonstrated by the following
Ordinance provision:
Subd. 7. Accessory Uses in PCD -1.
Off-street parking facilities.
Buildings for the storage of merchandise to be retailed by the
related principal use.
Not more than two amusement devices.
Drive-through facilities, except those accessory to i)
financial institutions, and ii) food establishments as
defined in Section 721 of the City Code
Produce stands pursuant to a permit issued by the Manager
Issues
Distinguishing between coffee shop and fast food restaurant. The City attorney
has advised not to make a distinction between the two, as is it extremely difficult
when food and coffee is served at both. Often times drive-through windows for
fast food establishments are open late into the evening and even past midnight.
This would not be appropriate for the neighborhood commercial zoning district,
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as often times they are surrounded by single-family homes. The subject Clancy's
site is adjacent to single-family homes. Therefore, the conditions on which a
restaurant may have a drive-through must be specific enough to make it difficult
for a fast food restaurant to have a drive-through window in this zoning district.
Hours of operation. Because most of the City's PCD -1 Districts are adjacent to
single-family homes, hours of operation should be regulated. The 70th and Cahill
PCD -1 sites are not adjacent to single-family homes. A restaurant primarily
serving coffee through a drive-through window would not be open into the
evening. Their peak times would be in the morning. Therefore, staff is
recommending limiting the hours from 6:00 am to 6:00 pm. This would be
acceptable for the applicant, whose primary business is in the morning. The 6:00
pm restriction would discourage a fast foot restaurant.
Items to be sold. To further prevent fast foot or restaurants service food items
from the window, the items to be sold associated with a coffee shop could also
be regulated. Staff is suggesting coffee, non alcoholic beverages, pastries and
donuts only.
Stacking. The current standards for drive-through windows were not written with
coffee shops in mind. As an example, the Starbucks located at 5121 Gus Young
Lane, often times has cars stacking out into the street. However, they do meet
the above standards. In planning a code amendment to allow a drive-through for
a coffee shop, additional stacking spaces should be required, and a prohibition
on stacking into the street included. The subject Clancy's site would have
adequate stacking space for 10+ cars around the building, including a car at the
window. (See page A3.)
Menu board. Again, given that the location of these uses would be within
neighborhood commercial areas, the menu boards should be located away from
residential areas. Noise from the menu board should also be restricted.
Other PCD -1 Sites. Consideration should be given to the appropriateness of
other PCD -1 sites, which include the 44th and 54th and France areas;
Londonderry Road and 169; and 70th and Cahill. (See zoning map and aerial
maps of these areas on pages A7—A19.)
Lot size requirement. Some cities require a minimum lot size for drive-through
facilities to ensure adequate site size for setbacks, buffer, stacking space etc. If a
minimum of one acre (43,560 s.f.) was required, there would only be five sites
that could be developed with a drive-through window: The subject site; the site at
4510 Valley View Road (across the street from the subject site; the site at 5816
Londonderry Road; and two sites at 70th and Cahill. (See pages A9, Al2, and
A19.) It would seem appropriate to only allow drive-through windows for
restaurants on larger properties in the PCD -1 district, as it would ensure
adequate stacking space, further distance from single-family homes, area for
landscaping etc.
Survey of Cities
To provide some background, staff conducted a survey of cities to compare
regulations on drive-through windows:
City
Setback from
Are drive-through
Stacking
Hour
Distinction between
Residential
windows allowed in
Required
Restrictions
fast food and coffee
Neighborhood
shop
Commercial Districts
Edina
20 feet
Yes, except for banks &
4 spaces
No
No
food establishments
Apple Valley
Building
No
5 spaces
Through a
Yes
setback
CUP
Eden Prairie
Building
Yes
Study required
No
No
setback
Lakeville
Building
No
180 feet (10
Through a
No
setback
spaces)
CUP
Minnetonka
100 feet
Yes, bank only
6 spaces
No
No
Richfiled
150 feet
No
4 spaces
No
No
Plymouth
300 feet
No
5 cars -pharmacy
7 am -10 pm
Yes
10 cars all other
St. Louis Park
100 feet
Yes
6 spaces
Through a
Only for parking
CUP
Wayzata
50 feet for the
No
180 feet (10 cars)
No
No
building
Falcon Heights
No
8 spaces
Through a
No
CUP
Eagan
N/A
Yes
5 spaces
Through a
No
CUP
Bloomington
No- but must
Yes
6 spaces
6 am — 10
No
be screened &
pm if within
hours limited
300 feet of
residential
Staff Recommendation/Proposed Ordinance
Attached is the proposed Ordinance amendment drafted by staff. Staff has added
restrictions to address the above issues. Staff would recommend approval of the
ordinance amendment with these added restrictions.
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July 17, 2009
Mr. Cary Teague
City of Edina Planning Department
4801 West Fiftieth Street
Edina, MN 55424
Re: Zoning Ordinance Amendment Application for 4420 Valley View Road
To the Planning Commission and City Council:
This property has been the home of Clancy's Drugstore. We have been the owners
for about 8 years. Our intention had been to redevelop the corner, but that is not
possible due to obstacles relating to site assembly, the economy and zoning/
entitlement issues. After careful consideration of our options, we have decided to
pursue a remodel of the building to bring a neighborhood bistro and coffee shop to
the property.
Clancy's installed a drive-thru window for their pharmacy customers. This window
has been in use for at least a decade, and is a popular and convenient service for the
neighborhood. We are not aware of any problems related to the drive-thru window.
There is plenty of space for stacking of cars and the ingress/ egress to the property
is excellent.
We've had many requests over the years to have a coffee shop on the site. We now
have the opportunity to do so, but the current PCD -1 zoning ordinance prohibits the
sale of any type of food or drink through a drive-thru window, so we are applying
for a zoning ordinance amendment. It is our understanding that the goal of the
current ordinance was to discourage fast food restaurants such as Wendy's or
Burger King from locating in neighborhood retail locations. Our intended use does
not include fast food, and in fact encourages customers to sit in the restaurant.
Prima Restaurant and Bull Run Coffee intend to occupy the former Clancy's space.
There are currently two Prima Restaurants in the Twin Cities. One is located at 54th
and Lyndale. The other is located at Highway 7 and 101 in Minnetonka. The
restaurant will have approximately 55 seats. There will be outdoor dining in the
summer. Elliott and Jennifer King own Prima Restaurant. Bull Run Coffee is owned
Greg Hoyt. Bull Run Coffee is found in many of the best restaurants in the Twin
Cities. It is the intention of Prima and Bull Run to sell coffee and pastries through
the drive-thru window. If a customer desired to take a meal home, they would need
to call ahead and would have to come into the store to pick up the food.
We respectfully request that the zoning ordinance be amended to allow Prima and
Bull Run to sell their goods through the existing drive-thru window. As this is not a
fast food restaurant, this drive-thru will operate similar to the Starbucks near 50th
and Highway 100.
This is a unique situation, and we are not aware of any other existing drive-thru
windows in similar situations. Perhaps this amendment could apply only to existing
drive-thru windows. There could also be stipulations related the percentage of food
and drink sold through the drive-thru versus sold inside for sit down dining, much
as establishments with liquor licenses must sell a percentage of food relative to
drink. We would be amenable to such stipulations.
Without the amendment, the operators of Prima and Bull Run are not willing to
make the investment into this location. While it is not their intention to sell meals
through the window, the sale of coffee is a significant part of their business plan for
this corner.
Our informal polling of the neighborhood reveals a very strong desire for this
proposed use. W ope you will agree.
Regards,
John Wannger
Richards & Wanninger, LLC
4420 Valley View Road
Edina, MN 55424
952-240-7600
jwanninger@gmail.com
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SITE DATA
BUILDING FOOTPRINT 8,968 S.F.
PARKING PROPOSED 65 STALLS
PARKING RATIO 7.3/1000
DRIVE THROUGH STACKING PROVIDED
12 VEHICLES PLUS ONE AT THE PICK UP
WINDOW
SITE PLAN DELINEATES PARKING AND
DRIVEWAY AREAS PROPOSED TO BE
PAINTED ON EXISTING BITUMINOUS LOT
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ORDINANCE NO. 2009—
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE CONCERNING
REGULATION OF DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITIES
The City Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Sub Section 850.07, Subdivision 14 is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 14 Drive -Through Facility Standards.
A. Number of stacking spaces in addition to the vehicle(s) being
served:
1. Financial institution: 3 stacking spaces per bay
2. Car wash: 25 stacking spaces per bay
3. Accessory car wash: 3 stacking spaces per bay
4. A restaurant in PCD -1 District: 8, stacking spaces per bay
4-5. All other uses: 3 stacking spaces per bay
B. Location of Stacking Space.
No stacking space shall encroach into any drive aisle
necessary for the circulation of vehicles.
2. All stacking spaces shall provide the same setbacks as are
required by this Section for parking spaces.
3. In the case of uses described in subparagraph 4. of
paragraph A. of Subd. 14 above, if the drive-through bay is
equipped with a facility for placing an order which is
separated from the location at which the product or
merchandise is received by the customer, not less than three
of the required stacking spaces shall be provided at the
ordering point.
C. Minimum Size of Stacking Space. The minimum size of each
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stacking space shall be nine feet wide by 18 feet deep.
D. Accessory Canopies and Mechanical Equipment. All canopies and
equipment appurtenant to a drive-through facility shall provide the
same setbacks as are required for principal buildings.
E. Facilities Accessory to Restaurants. Drive-through facilities
accessory to restaurants shall be limited to two service bays.
F. Restaurant in the PCD -1 district.
1. Mav onv sell coffee. non al
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4. Minimum lot size shall be 1 acre.
5. Levels of noise shall be measured at orooertv li
No Dart of the public street or boulevard may be us
Section 2. Sub Section 850.16. Subd. 2 is hereby amended as follows:
Restaurants, but ovnli Jinn f dFivo_ins" and drive-through faGilitieS
Section 3. Sub Section 850.16. Subd. 7 is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 7. Accessory Uses in PCD -1.
Off-street parking facilities.
Buildings for the storage of merchandise to be retailed by the related
principal use.
Not more than two amusement devices.
Drive through facilities, except those accessory to i) financial institutions,
Produce stands pursuant to a permit issued by the Manager
Section 4. Effective Date. This ordinance shall be in full force and in effect
after its adoption.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk
James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publishing in the Edina Sun Current on
Send two affidavits of publication
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by
the Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2009, and as
recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2009
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