HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992 08-06 Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
THE EDINA BOARD OF APPEALS AND ADJUSTMENTS
HELD ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 6, 1992, 5:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGERS CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chair, Rose Mary Utne; Nan Faust, Lee
Johnson, Len Olson
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Palmer
STAFF PRESENT: Kris Aaker, Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. Olson moved approval of the June 4, 1992 meeting minutes.
Mr. Johnson seconded the motion, requesting a change in the minutes
on page 3 on streetscape. All voted aye; motion carried.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
B-92-32 Vicki Thompson
#'7 Woodland Road
Lot 7, Colonial Grove Addition
Request: A 6.75 foot sideyard setback variance
Ms. Aaker informed the board the applicants are proposing to
expand their existing garage and add a master bedroom above. The
garage setback of five feet is acceptable according to ordinance
requirements, however, the 2nd story master bedroom should be
setback 10 feet plus 1.75' due to building height in excess of 15
feet. The applicants would, however, like to keep the master
bedroom wall flush with the 1st floor garage therefore, the
proponents are requesting a 6.75 foot sideyard setback variance.
Ms. Aaker concluded staff acknowledges that it would be a
logical progression of the existing upstairs living area to extend
the master bedroom above the garage, however, given the 100+ lot
width, and sizeable rearyard building pad area, it is difficult to
support a variance of the magnitude requested.
The proponents Ms. Thompson and Mr. Hill were present to
answer any questions. Impacted neighbors were present and Mr. Noel
Miller, attorney representing Mrs. Linderholm and her daughter were
present.
Mrs. Faust informed the board she will abstain from the vote.
Acting Chair, Mrs. Utne submitted two letters opposing the
proposal and one letter supporting the proposal.
Mr Hill explained to the board in reviewing options for
expansion, expansion toward the rear of the house is not realistic
and does not fit with in internal layout of the house and the
proposal to construct a pool. Mr. Hill submitted photo's of the
property and pointed out the concern of the neighbor to the north
(#8 Woodland Road) indicating that sunlight will be lost as a
result of their proposal is unfounded. Referring to the submitted
pictures Mr. Hill pointed out that the grove of existing trees
along the property line impact sunlight more then the proposed
addition. Continuing, Mr. Hill said when considering expansion
every aspect was looked into to reduce impact on neighboring
properties. Mr. Hill concluded that in his opinion the proposed
addition better corresponds with the colonial style house.
Chair Utne asked Mr. Hill if he discussed alternatives with
staff. Mr. Hill responded that he considered many different design
options but felt the plan submitted best suits the house and when
completed will have minimal impact on adjoining properties.
Chair Utne asked Ms. Aaker if she found this block to be
uniform. Ms. Aaker explained that when reviewing the neighborhood
she noted the lot sizes and house styles are very mixed.
Mr. Hill interjected that he believes the home when completed
will best fit the neighborhood and is sensitive to the colonial
style home.
Chairwomen Utne stated in her opinion the height of the
addition crates mass which is something the she personally is very
sensitive to. Continuing, Chairwomen Utne explained that variances
required from our height standards are carefully reviewed. The
required increase in setback due to building height helps achieve
the property space and balance between structures and when one has
other options for construction they should be considered.
Mr. Olson questioned if the proponents can construct the
garage without a variance. Ms. Aaker responded that that is
correct the proponents can construct the garage by just going
through the regular process of obtaining a building permit. The
addition living space requires a variance for building height
exceeding 15 feet.
Mr. Johnson said in his opinion there is no hardship to
support the request. He stated he has a concern when an addition
is added to a house and the end result is a feeling of
overcrowding. Mr. Johnson said in his opinion visual perception is
very important and he cannot support any request that compromises
these standards.
Mr. Hill pointed out there have been similar variances
approved within the neighborhood which should set a precedent that
should allow other property owners the same right to expand. Mr.
Hill said the house at present does not meet the needs of a blended
family. They love the neighborhood and desire to stay in the
neighborhood and the house.
Mr. Olson pointed out that the proposed pool takes up a lot of
space within the rear yard and in his opinion expansion could go
out the rear if the pool were not to be constructed. concluding
Mr. Olson said wanting a pool should not force expansion where a
variance is needed if a complying solution is available.
B-92-33 Jack Robucar
5011 Arden Avenue
Lot 61 Block 3, Brucewood
Request: A 3 foot sideyard setback variance for
building height
Ms. Aaker informed the board the subject property is the site
of a two story single family home with an attached 16' X 20'
garage. At their October 3, 1991, Board of Appeals meeting, the
members approved a 2.3 foot sideyard setback variance to allow the
expansion of the existing garage to be located 3 feet from the side
property boundary. The applicant is now returning to the board to
request a variance for building height to construct a second story
master bedroom above the garage. The applicant is proposing to set
the second story addition in so that the sideyard setback for the
master bedroom area is 5 feet.
Ms. Aaker explained a five foot sideyard setback would be
adequate if the building height did not exceed 15 feet. The
applicant is proposing a building height of 21 feet which requires
an additional 6" be added to the sideyard setback for each 1 foot
above the. maximum allowable building height of 15 feet. The master
bedroom as designed requires an 8 foot setback. The applicants are
seeking a 3 foot variance to allow the second story addition to be
5 feet from the sideyard.
Ms. Aaker concluded the applicant had originally submitted a
plan to locate the 2nd story • living space above the garage at 3
feet from the property boundary. Staff encouraged a more
conforming solution. Staff believes the design solution is in
keeping with the neighborhood and allows for a master bedroom
although more modest than originally proposed. Staff cites the
narrow lot width, limited design options, and desire to preserve
rearyard area as conditions occurring on the site that could
support the proposed design option.
The proponent, Mr. Klobucar was present.
Mrs. Utne questioned Ms. Aaker on the difference between this
proposal and the previous proposal. Ms. Aaker explained that
Mrs. Utne noted that there has been flexibility by the
proponents in working on a solution that does not require an
extreme variance. The master suite addition was scaled by
resulting in an less obtrusive addition. Mrs. Utne stated she can
support the proposal as presented.
Mr. Olson moved approval. Mrs. Faust seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
B-92-34 Bill and Laura Lunger
5432 Kellogg Avenue
Lot 9, Block 10, South Harriet Park
Request: A 2 foot north sideyard setback variance and a
2 foot south sideyard setback variance for
building height
Ms. Aaker informed the board the subject property is the
location of a two story home with attached 20 X 22 foot garage.
The property owners are proposing to expand the existing garage on
the north side of the garage by two feet and add a mudroom behind
the expanded garage. The addition on the north side would provide
a three foot sideyard setback. The ordinance requires a minimum 5
foot setback on lots less than 75 feet in width therefore a two
foot setback variance is requested. The proponents are also
planning to add a full two stories to the rear of the home to,
include a 2nd story master bedroom addition 5 feet from the south
side property boundary. The ordinance requires that the minimum
sideyard setback of 5 feet be increased 6 inches for every one foot
the building height exceeds 151. The building height of the new
south building wall is 19 feet which requires a setback of 7 feet.
The applicants are proposing to maintain the existing 5 foot south
sideyard setback therefore a 2 foot sideyard variance for building
height is requested.
Ms. Aaker concluded that staff cannot recommend approval for
the north sideyard setback variance that would allow living area
within 3 feet of the property boundary (mudroom). Staff recognizes
that the current garage is less than a desired width of a two stall
garage, and would suggest that any variance only apply to the
garage area.
Regarding the south sideyard setback variance, staff believes
that setting the second story in two feet would not necessarily
reduce the impact of the proposed addition and could give it a
rather disjointed appearance. Staff cites the narrow lot width and
corresponding limited expansion options available to the homeowner
as conditions that could support the submitted south side design
option.
Mrs. Faust questioned if they could trim back the garage and
mudroom area. Ms. Aaker responded that they can trim back the or
tuck in the mudroom area. She explained that while the extra width
may be needed for the garage living space that close to the
property line is not desired.
Mrs. Faust asked Ms. Aaker if the city has a standards two car
garage width. Ms. Aaker said the city has not recommended a
certain two car garage size standard. She added usually two car
garages are 22 X 24 feet.
Mr. Olson questioned if the mudroom can be reduced. Ms. Aaker
said that is one possibility.
Mr. Johnson pointed out that this proposal is similar to the
proposed denied on Bruce Avenue. Mr. Aaker stated that is correct
a similar request was heard for property on Bruce Avenue that was
denied.
Mr. Johnson stated that the proposal as submitted depicts a
house with an addition resulting in a very large building wall, it
is extremely long. Mr. Johnson noted there appear to be no windows
on the south side of the addition that could soften the appearance
of the proposed addition.
Mr. Lundgren explained that windows can be added to the south
facade if that is the desire of the board.
Mr. Johnson said he has a problem with this proposal as well
as with the first proposal due to the relationship of building mass
to building mass. Mr. Johnson said if the proponent were to step
in the addition a bit to soften it's impact creating shadow lines
the result would be more sensitive to the neighbors, and be more
visually pleasing. Mr. Johnson stated he realizes there is a
hardship because of the relatively small lot width but stated he
would like to see something implemented that would soften the
impact of the proposed addition(s).
Mr. Lundgren sated it would be possible to step in the second
story of the addition.
Mrs. Faust stated she also has a concern regarding the north
side of the addition.
Mr. Olson moved approval for a sideyard setback variance for
only the garage. Mr. Olson seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried.
Mr. Lundgren stated he has a concern that the proposal will
not look as good as the original proposal, but will work with his
architect to redesign as requested.
B-92-35 Mr. and Mrs. Chris Elliott
4107 West 48th Street
Edina, MN
zoning: R-1
Request: A 3 foot sideyard setback variance.
Ms. Aaker informed the Board the subject property is currently
a single story rambler. The applicants have submitted a dramatic
redesign of the home to include a second story. The homeowners
have submitted a plan that includes a bedroom above the garage that
would match the existing east sidewall. The garage sidewall is
located 7.5 feet from the side property boundary. Living area on
lots 75' or greater require a setback of 10 feet plus 6" for each
1 foot the building height exceeds 15 feet, however, the proposed
2nd story would require a setback of '10.5 feet. The current
setback is 7.5 feet therefore a 3 foot variance is requested.
Ms. Aaker concluded staff acknowledges the integrity of the
submitted design and believes the plan is both aesthetically
pleasing and complimentary to the neighborhood. Staff cannot
however identify unique conditions that would support the request.
The proponents and their builder, Jim Kutze, were present.
Mr. Johnson said that although he believes the request is
reasonable, and noting there are a number of two story and cape cod
homes within this neighborhood his concern, as mentioned during
discussion on the previous item, has to do with building mass, how
the sideyards of homes relate to this mass, and maintaining the
integrity along the streetscape.
Mr. Kutze pointed out to the board there are only two houses
on that side of the street, and to the west of the subject site
there is no house. Mr. Kutze stated any impact from the expansion
would be minimal. Mr. Johnson explained what he is concerned
about is the visual impact of those two houses after the
expansion/addition is completed on the subject house. Expanding
Mr. Johnson said massing that will be created as a result of this
proposal causes concern. Spacing is very important which is why
the city requires increased setbacks on houses exceeding 15 feet in
height. Mr. Johnson pointed out presently there exists a rambler
next to a two story home and the spacing is adequate. When the
rambler is changed to a two story the spacing is not adequate.
Concluding Mr. Johnson suggested tucking in the addition which in
his opinion would create shadow lines which can add character to
the house, will soften the impact of the addition, and comply with
our ordinance standards.
Ms. Stanley -Elliott pointed out the spacing between the houses
even after the expansion/addition is completed will remain at 17
1/2 feet.
Mr. Elliott pointed out to board members that all immediate
neighbors impacted by this proposal support the request.
Continuing, Mr. Elliott stated in his opinion the proposed
expansion/ addition better suites the character and symmetry of the
neighborhood then the existing rambler.
Mr. Kutze stated that in his opinion Mr. Johnson's suggestion
that the proposed 2nd story be tucked in does not meet the
character of the traditional cape cod home they are trying to
establish. Mr. Kutze added the key to a "well done" addition is
that the change to the subject house results in a new structure
that meets the standards of the neighborhood while maintaining the
integrity of design. Mr. Kutze concluded that in his opinion an
expansion/ addition constructed without a variance that complies
with city code will not be as aesthetically pleasing as a home
constructed with a variance.
Mrs. Faust pointed out that with or without the variance the
proposed home would be, in her opinion, aesthetically pleasing and
if an addition can be constructed without a variance maybe it
should be.
Mr. Kutze commented that our concern is with keeping the
architectural integrity of a traditional cape cod style home.
Tucking or notching in the upstairs usually is not considered a
traditional style.
Mrs. Utne noted that she believes staff made a good point in
their staff report acknowledging that the proposal is in keeping
with the integrity of the design of a cape cod house, and is
aesthetically and complimentary to the neighborhood. Mrs. Utne
stated in light of this observation, in her opinion meeting city
standards would result in the construction of an addition that will
not be as aesthetically pleasing, nor as compatible with the
neighborhood as the one presented this evening. Mrs. Utne
concluded that she supports the request as presented.
Mr. Olson concurred with Mrs. Utne's observation expanding
that he believes maintaining the character and integrity of the
neighborhood, and the traditional style of a home are also very
important issues to consider, and noted his support of the proposal
as presented.
Mrs. Faust moved to deny the proposal as presented. Mr.
Johnson seconded the motion. Ayes, Faust, Johnson. Nays, Utne,
Olson. Motion failed.
Mrs. Utne explained to the proponents the board is deadlocked
on this issue,- and they have the option of either redesigning their
plan to conform to city standards, submit an entirely different
plan that may require a variance or appeal this decision to the
city council.
III. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
J 'e Hoogena r