HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007 12-20 Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTE SUMMARY
Zoning Board of Appeals
Thursday, December 20, 2007, 5:30 PM
Edina City Hall Communitx Room
4801 West 50 Street
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Floyd Grabiel, Julie Risser and Jim
STAFF PRESENT:
Kris Aaker and Jackie Hoogenakker
The minutes of the August 16, 20 etinubmitted.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
B -07-47M
311 France Avenue, Edina, MN
Request g __ ,:. ' ` 1 riance
Ms. Aaker to this project received final development plan
approval to tear do old 40,000 square foot AMC movie theatre, and build
the following:
• A 31,000 square foot single level retail building along France Avenue.
• A 22,000 square foot retail building with a five -level parking ramp above.
Attached to the south would be a 32,960 square foot two-level
retail/restaurant
Ms. Aaker asked the Board to note that the development has been designed
to face Centennial Lakes Park, encouraging pedestrian movement to and from
the site by providing a large sidewalk along France avenue, and providing
connections to the Centennial Lakes Park. Continuing, Ms. Aaker pointed out
Section 460.05 Subd. 7.1 states that wall signs not be allowed to face a public
park or residential uses. Therefore, the applicant is requesting a variance to allow
signage above the store fronts that face the park. All ot,er signage within the
development would meet the sign ordinance.
Ms. Aaker concluded staff recommends appyI o ted variance to
allow signage to face a public park at 7311 Frail Avera s Equities
based on the following findings:
The proposal would meet the required standa
1. The proposed use of the property is reas� , bl -e fronts face
Centennial Lakes Park. The approved Ian encouV OWId level retail
and service uses that create an ac,, estrian en + including
access to Centennial Lakes Par. Auld be bht upon the
applicant and future tenants, if na wed at the store
fronts.
2. The intent of the ordinance is vett ignage�` backs of buildings
that face Centennial Lake, ,
3. Approval of this varian Auld not s t for future requests, as
the only other retail e' went in t strict does not have
storefronts that fa nnial Lake sR 3:
Approval is
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as there ar
facing the pa
owever signs rr
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Mr. Brett
conditions:
I '"t001'3% ; store front.
�d on %. 4'alls of Buildings B and C that face
entrances at that elevation.
not be illuminated between 10:00 pm and 7:00
illuminated at any time the use identified by the
ust be front lit, as in the example submitted
present representing Cypress Equities.
Member Risser suggested that the proposed signs somehow be angled so
people walking the park paths won't see them. Ms. Aaker explained the design
concept of this proposal is to orient the stores to the park inviting park goers the
opportunity to shop, browse and eat at the restaurants. Ms. Aaker said this is a
mixed-use area that integrates the park.
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Member Nelson reminded the Board that at the November 15th meeting
Board Members had two suggestions for the applicant, one, reduce the size of
the signs and two, illuminate the signs from the front, not the back, thereby
eliminating spillage onto the park. Member Nelson said it appears to him both
those issues have been addressed.
Chair Grabiel asked if the signs (when illuminat)would be on a timer.
Ms. Aaker responded the signs would not be illuminat � 10 PM and 7
AM. Signage on the restaurants would be illumin@ted
Mr. Witzig addressed the Board and e d hto
the sign package addressed the questions a � er
meeting of the Board. Mr. Witzig added they
directions given them. y
Member Risser asked Mr. Witzig if the
other signs. Mr. Witzig responded each retail
the direction of the previous Board that si
change in illumination. Continuing, Mr.
store has a sign on their storefront th rl
asked if the signs could be angled.itzil
projecting signs are allowed in the Cts y nia
wasn't looked at. mss''
Chair Grabiel asked/l' ig if the
Witzig responded there w�, onument
and Gallagher Drive. y
project has any
mponen splw ign, adding at
s been cluding a
very im t that each
ithern Member Risser
IN go not sure if
des c k 4 ffan, adding that
monument signs. Mr.
corner of France Avenue
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their pleasure.
Mr. Bohan for his comments and asked the Board
Member Nelson moved variance approval based on staff findings
and subject to staff conditions. Chair Grabiel seconded the motion to
facilitate the discussion.
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M A 00 Co e, told the Board he has no problem
with th
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the jsi ver, he doesn't like the idea of
havi
at in
tificati ns. Continuing, Mr. Bohan added he
dogs r"
ve a problem""
south facing signs on the proposed restaurants,
ignage on the stogy
that directly impact him are a problem. Mr.
owledged he w
re that the proposed retail stores would need
sign s
t the time of
V" al the specifics were not addressed. Mr. Bohan
said h
.. 'th the s
n from Ms. Risser that the signs could
somehow
so
dn't see them.
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their pleasure.
Mr. Bohan for his comments and asked the Board
Member Nelson moved variance approval based on staff findings
and subject to staff conditions. Chair Grabiel seconded the motion to
facilitate the discussion.
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Member Risser stated this really concerns her, adding she doesn't like the
idea of "advertising" visible to people enjoying the park. Member Risser said
parks are places people go to "get away from it all" and to have retail signs
visible to park patrons is not something she wants to see.
Member Nelson asked Ms. Aaker if an angled or 90° sign is permitted,
adding atone time he considered a projecting sign on a building in Edina and
was informed projecting signs weren't allowed in that i, t. Aaker
responded she isn't sure if projecting signs are allwe r. Witzig is
correct that signage in the area should be simil dinTT Asn t believe
there are any projecting signs in Centennial L 91Contl ember Nelson
noted this project was approved, and even if t� ac r j rt ofthe
approval process it is reasonable to assume t ComMR>'
Council would have realized signs would face s. Aaker r a
that is a correct assumption. Both the Commis �. ricil were aw we of
the potential for signs to face park property, ad [�t`enant identification
signs weren't part of the development packa a because after. of
development approval the tenant mix wase
Member Risser said in her opi �vinfp, efront with an angled
sign seems better; however, what th " Mrd is r� waning is what's in
front of us. Member Risser stated if iggn Okage oved the Board
could be setting a precedent th ' ou mp Cher Crks. Concluding,
Member Risser said to her thi is a ge did reit ed viewing signage
would take away the "natural '� ng of the k�r
Ms. Aaker said thi is really very unique in Edina, adding the park
was created as, ntegral p � entennial Lakes mixed-use development,
and the butt k wasta park space that "blended" with the
commetj ential fair Grabiel asked Ms. Acker if she is
award bher sites . y bthe similar fa ntennial Lakes that could be
im q�Ey Boards Ms. Aaker said Grandview Square is also a
+ se development ( _ with a small park element, adding she isn't
e:e.sian mix in that
iel told t rd in his opinion Centennial Lakes park
functions .'th t e, retail and residential elements around it. Chair
Grabiel note l le now from the park, adding the office buildings
have signage ar def occupants that enjoy a view of the park during
daylight and eve in R rs. During evening hours the office buildings are lit
"opening them up for view" from park patrons. Continuing, Chair Grabiel
reiterated Centennial Lakes park is part of a mixed-use development and it is
unreasonable to expect that storefronts that face the park to "mix" with park
patrons couldn't have a sign.. Chair Grabiel said in his opinion the proponent has
addressed concerns expressed by the previous Board, signage was reduced, the
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signs would be front lit and the signs would only be lit during specific hours.
Concluding, Chair Grabiel stated he can support the revised sign plan.
Chair Grabiel called for the vote. Ayes; Nelson, Grabiel. Nay, Risser.
Motion carried.
Chair Grabiel advised the proponent and public of the appeal process.
III. NEW BUSINESS:
B-07-51 Chad Hardie/Crc
4315 Eton Place
Request: Front yard/side street
Ms. Aaker informed the Board the su
a 1 1/2 story home fronting Eton Place
from West 44t" St. The applicant is pr
detached garage and replace it with
garage. The new home would also frOR
to load from West 44t" St. r
is a ct';Aft'onsisting of
I two car ge loading
ffe existing home and
tached two car
t,` araae to continue
Ms. Aaker concludedst mmends the requested front
yard/side street setback v abased on th ing findings:
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TWeJu unique M ... � the property caused by:
rner Id S.
Thee a is n0 orming regarding setback the new
home willt�icantly impact the existing nonconforming
The lot arrang and required setbacks limit design options.
nce woOdObet the intent of the ordinance since:
d ff: + ent has been modified as much as possible to be
sim �`pical corner lot.
e. The i ements should have no impact on sight lines.
f. The addition would be a reasonable use given the hardship
imposed by the required setbacks.
Ms. Aaker stated approval is also based on the following conditions:
1) The addition must be constructed as per the submitted plan dated
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slightly different plan.
• The variances would be providing adequate spacing between structures
and distance from the creek.
• The variances would provide the ability to improve the home within
reasonable parameters
• The additions and alterations would be similar to surrounding
improvements in the neighborhood and allows an, existing nonconforming
structure to be upgraded to modern standard ex di mes today.
The proponents, Mr. and Mrs.
questions from the Board.
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W ohkohl to ` rd the hearse was constructed in 1957, adding the
-W ho' t been upda that time. Mr. Rohkohl said the goal of his
Jo add additional IN space that meet our needs, while being sensitive
borhood. Mr Rc I said in his opinion the plans presented better
suitf mer of the nei ood.
Me s �° is impressed with their sensitivity to the
neighbors, and :" character, noting there are a number of letters in
support of the re
Member Nelson said in his opinion the proposed renovations are an
improvement, and more in character with the neighborhood than the previous
plan, adding he is very familiar with this block.
N.
Member Nelson moved to recommend variance approval based on
staff findings and subject, to staff conditions. Member Risser seconded the
motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
IV. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 6:45 pm.
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