HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003 06-25 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegjlarDRAFT MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 25,2003,7:30 PM
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Acting Chair, Helen McClelland, David Runyan, John Lonsbury, Ann
Swenson, David Byron, Geof Workinger, and William Skallerud
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Gordon Johnson and Stephen Brown
STAFF PRESENT:
Craig Larsen and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. OLD BUSINESS:
Z-03-7 Final Rezoning POD -1 to PCD -2
Madison Marquette Realty Services
3100 West 66t Street
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission on April 15, 2003, the City Council
granted preliminary rezoning approval subject to final rezoning, street vacation,
Richfield approvals, Watershed District permit and Hennepin County curb cut
permits.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends final rezoning approval. The
plans presented are consistent with the approved preliminary plans. All
preconditions to final approval have been satisfied. The revised parking and
circulation plan is an improvement over the preliminary plan.
Mr. Lee Hoffman, and Mr. Thorpe were present representing the
proponent, MadisonMarquette.
Mr. Hoffman addressed the Commission and told them he believes the
plan before them this evening addressed their previous concerns and is more
"user friendly" with regard to traffic circulation. Continuing, Mr. Hoffman told the
Commission he believes a national jewelry chain and a national bridal shop will
lease the new retail building. He asked the Commission to remember from
previous discussions that the fagade of the "old" shopping mall will be renovated
to blend with the new construction.
Commissioner Runyan asked Mr. Hoffman if the proposed retail store has
a rear service corridor. Mr. Hoffman responded in the affirmative.
Commissioner Workinger complimented Mr. Hoffman on responding to
concerns expressed by the Commission at their last meeting, adding in his
opinion this is a better plan. Continuing, Commissioner Workinger questioned
the plans depiction of a narrow lane along the east side of the proposed new
building and the west side of the Tire's Plus building south onto West 66th Street.
Mr. Hoffman acknowledged that lane is narrow but it is a one-way out -only lane.
Commissioner Workinger commented that makes sense and provides a safe exit.
Commissioner Workinger asked how the rear elevation of the new building
was addressed. Mr. Thorpe responded the rear elevation has a brick base with
the remainder of the building wall finished with stucco. Mr. Thorpe added the
rear elevation of the building will be "broken up" by decorative downspouts and
lights.
Commissioner Byron asked Mr. Larsen who controls York Avenue. Mr.
Larsen responded that both York Avenue and West 66th Street are County roads.
After further discussion the Commission expressed their support for the
revised plan adding their earlier concerns have been addressed.
Commissioner Swenson moved to recommend Final Rezoning approval to
include a 12.8 -foot easterly setback variance and a 10 stall parking variance.
Approval is also conditioned on street vacation, Richfield final approvals,
Watershed District Permit and Hennepin County curb cuts. Commissioner
Runyan seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
P-03-2 Final Development Plan
Four Crown Inc., (Vulcan Properties/Wendy's)
Generally location in the northeast corner of
Yorktown Shopping Mall
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponents are proposing a
Final Development Plan for a freestanding Wendy's Restaurant near the
northeast corner of the Yorktown Mall site. Circulation for the proposed new
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building and drive through will be an improvement from the existing drive through
at the farthest east end of the mall.
Mr. Larsen explained the proposed new building complies with the
parking, lot coverage, building height and landscaping restrictions of the City
Code. The proposal conforms to ordinance requirements without the need for
variances. Mr. Larsen concluded staff supports the Final Development Plan
subject to review by the Watershed District.
Ms. Kathy Anderson, Mike Givens, and Jill Hagen, were present
representing the applicants.
Commissioner Lonsbury told the Commission he reviewed the plans and
as they relate to parking he believes a parking shortage exists. He commented
this mall will contain a number of food establishments and he is not sure the
City's parking requirements for a retail center is adequate when so much of this
site will be leased by food establishments.
Mr. Larsen responded this center is viewed as mixed-use shopping center,
with the largest tenant a retail fabric store. Mr. Larsen explained with regard to
retail parking it is one space per 200 square feet of gross floor area plus one
additional space for each ten seats in a restaurant, theater or other place of
assembly. Mr. Larsen noted atrium and mall areas not used for retail purposes
are excluded from gross floor area calculations. Mr. Larsen acknowledged the
Wendy's site is on a separate lot but in reality it functions as part of the mall. Mr.
Larsen concluded that to date the City has never noticed nor has anyone, tenant
or otherwise, reported parking problems at this location.
Commissioner Workinger questioned signage for Wendy's. Mr. Larsen
said city staff will review signage and if a variance situation arises with regard to
signage the zoning board of appeals would hear any request. Any action this
evening does not include signage.
Commissioner Workinger asked Mr. Larsen if there are similar platting
situations like this in the City. Mr. Larsen responded both Southdale and the
Galleria were platted with similar aspects. Mr. Larsen pointed out the Southdale
Center site already contains some freestanding structures. Gabberts razed the
Southdale Bowling alley building and incorporated that site to join the mall.
Concluding Mr. Larsen said another site worth mentioning is at Gus Young Lane,
the strip mall and freestanding Davanni's.
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Ms. Anderson addressed the Commission and informed them it is their
intent to tie the proposed Wendy's Restaurant in with the great new look of the
mall. She added renovations to the existing mall are occurring at this time and
this addition will compliment the major renovation process..
Commissioner Runyan said he is interested in the reasoning behind the
parking stall variations. He pointed out the site plan indicates a combination of 90
degree and angled parking stalls. Ms. Anderson said that observation is correct.
She explained the variation in parking stalls avoids the need for a variance and
encourages and controls traffic flow. Ms. Anderson said one goal is to
encourage access off Hazelton Road.
Commissioner Swenson questioned how one accesses the building. She
stated is appears to her one would have to walk over the drive through aisle to
gain access to the building. Ms. Anderson responded that is correct.
Commissioner Swenson asked Ms. Anderson if she is comfortable with that
scenario. Ms. Anderson said in a short answer "yes", explaining 95% of the
Wendy's food establishments have this type of "set-up". Commissioner Swenson
commented traffic occurs on all sides of this building. Ms. Anderson said that is
also correct.
Chair McClelland noted vehicles would be fully stopped to order and pick
up food.
Commissioner Workinger noted on the plans there appears to be a railing
that would help queue people allowing them time to survey the drive aisle and
safely proceed.
Commissioner Byron moved to recommend Final Development Plan
approval subject to Watershed District permits. Commissioner Workinger
seconded the motion.
Commissioner Skallerud said in viewing this proposal some of the
justification for its support is that it corrects some existing problems with the mall
itself and the "old Wendy's" location. Commissioner Skallerud asked if
Commission Members have the authority to recommend that whatever food
establishment moves into the old Wendy's site, a drive through is prohibited. Mr.
Larsen said that is a reasonable recommendation and one he agrees with.
Commissioner Byron said he would accept that recommendation as an
amendment to his motion for approval. Commissioner Workinger agreed.
Commissioner Lonsbury asked Mr. Larsen if the City Engineer has
reviewed this proposal. Mr. Larsen responded Mr. Houle, City Engineer has
reviewed and approved this plan.
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Commissioner Lonsbury said Commissioner Swenson brought up a good
point with regard to building access and questioned if there is a need for a
marked or stripped cross walk area on that side of the building.
Commissioner Byron commented in the absence of something unique to
this site he believes this layout is similar to many strip mall layouts. He pointed
out at this hearing the Southdale Square Center was addressed and when one
views their parking the majority of visitors to the mall have to cross a "drive aisle"
situation to gain access to the Red Pepper, Subway, etc. Commissioner Byron
said pedestrians will be aware of the situation. Chair McClelland said the
applicants may choose to add caution signs or consider re -stripping a walkway
access but that would be at their discretion.
Chair McClelland called for the vote. Ayes, Lonsbury, Byron, Runyan,
Workinger, Skallerud, McClelland. Nay, Swenson. Motion to recommend Final
Development Plan approval carried 6-1.
S-03-3 Preliminary Plat Approval
James and Mary Gearen
6608 Dakota Trail
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponents, Mr. and Mrs.
Gearen are requesting a two -lot subdivision. The subject property is 2.9 acres in
size with frontage on both Dakota and Mohawk Trails. Mr. Larsen commented if
this looks familiar a nearly identical subdivision of this property was approved by
the City Council 1995, however, the approved plat was never recorded. City
rules state that if a plat is not recorded within on year the approval becomes void.
Mr. Larsen concluded that staff recommends preliminary approval of the
proposed subdivision. The proposal is nearly identical to the subdivision
approved in 1995 and no variances are required. Approval is conditioned on final
plat approval, subdivision dedication and a 40 -foot conservation easement along
Mohawk Trail.
Ms. Linda Fisher of Larkin Hoffman was present representing the
proponents, along with Mr. Barnes, engineer.
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Larsen if as a result of this subdivision
the existing house requires variances. Mr. Larsen responded no variances are
required for the existing house. Continuing, Mr. Larsen said there is an
encroachment of playground equipment that has been addressed.
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Commissioner Runyan referred to the site plan presented to the
Commission and inquired if the proposed footprint for the new house is "real" or
just a "possibility". Ms. Fisher responded the footprint of the proposed new
house is per ordinance requirements, and is a possibility. The location of the
proposed house on the lot fronting Mohawk Trail was picked because it
minimizes disruption to the topography. Mr. Barnes injected that this site affords
the best access with the least impact. He added of course a potential
homeowner may have another preference, but in his opinion this site makes the
most sense.
Commissioner Workinger commented that in viewing the preliminary plat
development of the site would rely upon the construction of retaining walls. Mr.
Larsen responded that is correct and pointed out to the Commission retaining
wall are not uncommon in Indian Hills. Mr. Larsen asked the Commission to
remember the depicted placement for the new house is preliminary and a new
house may not even be placed in this location.
Chair McClelland asked if there is anyway the Commission can limit where
a building pad is located. Chair McClelland commented she doesn't want a new
house perched on the ridge. Mr. Larsen pointed out in Indian Hills natural
conditions usually drive the placement of a house, and the City has been hesitant
in restricting the rights of property owners in home placement as long as they
maintain setbacks. Continuing, Mr. Larsen noted as long as the future property
owner maintains the 40 -foot conservation easement along Mohawk Trail and
abides by our codes house placement will be up to the owner of the site.
Commissioner Byron questioned if the Commission can be assured no
variances will be required on this site to construct a house. Mr. Larsen
responded to the best of his knowledge no variances should be required. He
cautioned that this lot meets all subdivision standards and no variances from lot
depth, width or area are required. If any setback variances are required to site a
house on this lot the Zoning Board would hear that issue. The standards for this
lot apply throughout the community. Mr. Larsen reiterated as he views this lot it
appears from its size no further variances are required. Commissioner Byron
said he is satisfied with that response.
Commissioner Skallerud commented that if the new lot would require a
variance the hardship test stipulated by ordinance would be hard to make
because they are creating a hardship as a result of subdivision. Ms. Fisher told
the Commission it is the intent of the proponent to comply with all ordinance
requirements.
Commissioner Swenson asked Ms. Fisher if anyone knows the height of
the retaining walls depicted on the preliminary plat. Mr. Barnes responded he
believes the height is around 8 feet.
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Chair McClelland opened up the discussion to the audience.
Mr. Don Halla, 6601 Mohawk Trail told the Commission there is undue
pressure in this area to subdivide properties and that while he also subdivided his
property a few years ago and is in a similar situation as this owner he would like
to see conservation restrictions placed not only along the front property line but
the side property lines as well. Continuing, Mr. Halla said if the proposed home
were placed where depicted many trees along our common property line would
be destroyed and the future homes would be rather exposed and close together.
Chair McClelland asked Mr. Larsen if the Commission has any authority
with regard to tree loss, etc. Mr. Larsen said subdivision standards require that
trees over a certain width be identified. Mr. Larsen said the reason the City is
requesting a 40 foot conservation easement along Mohawk Trail is to preserve
the street scape. He added it is very important in this City to maintain and
preserve original streetscapes. In this instance, Indian Hills is a heavily wooded
area and from the street we want to preserve that element.
Commissioner Swenson commented that any time a property is
subdivided neighbors are impacted along with the vegetation and topography.
Mr. Larsen responded that is correct. He reiterated the goal of the City is to
minimize any impact to the streetscape. He acknowledged tree loss will occur for
house placement and road/driveway construction but the 40 -foot conservation
restriction along Mohawk Trail is extremely important to maintain. Reiterating,
the City is traditionally protective of our front streetscapes.
Ms. Cindy Wallen, 6612 Mohawk Trail, told the Commission she is worried
about the potential to subdivide this lot again (Mohawk Trail lot). Mr. Larsen
reminded the Commission in 1995 the first proposal submitted by the
Tambornino's (property owners at that time) was a three -lot subdivision, one lot
fronting Dakota Trail and two fronting Mohawk Trail. That proposal failed. Mr.
Larsen said in his opinion this lot is best suited for one lot fronting Mohawk Trail
and one lot fronting Dakota Trail. Mr. Larsen acknowledged that in the future if
an owner requests to subdivide this site (Mohawk Trail) we can't prevent that
application but history indicates support for one lot fronting Mohawk Trail and one
lot fronting Dakota Trail so any future "re -subdivision" would be difficult.
Mr. C. Caler 6609 Mohawk Trail, asked the Commission to pay close
attention to where the current house was built on this lot. He said the house was
constructed in his opinion to take advantage of the views provided by the ridge of
both Dakota and Mohawk Trails. Mr. Caler said he and many of the residents in
this area purchased their homes with the belief that what they "saw" when they
purchased their properties would be protected. Mr. Caler said this subdivision
will open the door for other subdivisions and the values of the properties within
this immediate area will go down. Concluding, Mr. Caler said the proposed
house placement for the house fronting Mohawk Trail is positioned such that it
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appears possible to re -subdivide this lot in the future, and that is another issue
and concern.
Mr. Halla agreed with the previous comment and told the Commission in
his opinion the placement of the house on the Mohawk Trail site would create a
large amount of tree loss. He added it would also be difficult to get up the hill
because of the steep grade.
Commissioner Runyan responded whomever purchases this property will
hire an architect that would study the topography and place the new house in the
best possible location, with minimal disruption to the site. Continuing,
Commissioner Runyan pointed out retaining as many trees as possible and
creating a driveway with a navigateable slope would be important to any future
homeowner.
Mr. Pope, 6621 Mohawk Trail told the Commission they can deny this
proposal if it requires variances. Chair McClelland responded that is correct and
reminded the audience no variances are required for this subdivision. It meets all
ordinance standards. Chair McClelland pointed out at this time there is no final
plan for house placement so they cannot comment on if a variance would be
required for house construction. Mr. Larsen reminded the Commission and
neighbors what the Commission is acting on this evening is a subdivision request
to create one new lot. We are not considering future house placement.
Commissioner Skallerud commented he also serves on the variance
board and when the variance board reviews variance requests each property is
looked at individually and on its own merits. Members of the Commission cannot
give an opinion on if a variance is required when there is no application for
variance.
Commissioner Byron told the neighbors the City couldn't prevent a future
property owner from applying for a variance to site a house or add an addition
onto an existing house sometime in the future. Property owners have the right to
be heard by the variance board and board members will listen to the facts
presented at that time and act on the request on its individual merits.
Commissioner Byron added the proposed house placement on the Mohawk Trail
lot is located close to a side property line and not in the middle of the lot, but that
in itself is not a reason to deny this request.
Chair McClelland told neighbors the minutes will reflect concern was
expressed over the proposed placement of a future house. Chair McClelland
also noted the Commission understands concerns with respect to the impact this
proposal will have on the environment and is confident that any future property
owner would do their best to site the new house with respect to the environment.
Mr. Barnes told the Commission the proposed placement of the house on
the Mohawk Trail site was positioned in an area with the best grade. The access
driveway elevation at this point is four percent. Mr. Barnes explained what the
proponents are requesting this evening is subdivision approval not site plan
review. Ms. Fisher interjected and told the Commission the proposal complies
with all ordinance standards, no variances are required. She pointed out the two
lots exceed the "500 -foot" neighborhood standards. She concluded the
proponents will take into consideration all comments made this evening by both
the Commission and neighbors.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend preliminary plat approval
subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Swenson seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
Commissioner Byron commented a precedent was set with regard to this
lot by approving a similar subdivision in 1995. Commissioner Byron said he
understands the frustration expressed by some neighbors that the Commission
can't firmly "pin down" house placement on the lot fronting Mohawk Trail or
assure them no further subdivisions can occur, but the Commission has listened
and so have the proponents to neighbor comments and every indication given is
that the new house will be placed in the proper location with as little disruption to
the site as possible. As for the potential for "future re -subdivisions" of this
property the comments presented this evening will remain on record with the
property file.
LD -03-2 Robert Lomicka and Susan Giese
5600 Highland Road
5604 Highland Road
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the applicant is requesting a simple
lot division transferring land from 5600 to 5604 Highland Road. This transfer of
land would allow expansion of the garage at 5604 without the need for a
variance.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend lot division approval.
Commissioner Workinger seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
LD -03-3 Steve Stroncek and Steven Hong
5129 Windsor Avenue
5117 Richmond Drive
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the applicant is requesting a simple
lot division to allow the transfer of the north 20 feet of 5120 Windsor to the lot at
5117 Richmond Drive. The proposed transfer will allow a garage addition to the
home at 5117 Richmond Drive without the need of a variance.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend lot division approval.
Commissioner Swenson seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
III. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 PM
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