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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 30,2005,7:00 PM
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Acting Chair Geof Workinger, Michael Schroeder, Mike Fischer, John
Lonsbury, Stephen Brown and Floyd Grabiel
MEMBERS ABSENT:
David Byron, David Runyan and Helen McClelland
STAFF PRESENT:
Craig Larsen
Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Commissioner Fischer moved approval of the February 23, 2005, meeting
minutes. Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
C-05-1 Conditional Use Permit
Haugland Companies
Southwest quadrant of France Avenue and 50tH St. W.
Mr. Larsen told the Commission on March 15, 2005, the City Council
approved and granted first reading of a Zoning Ordinance amendment allowing
residential use in the Planned Commercial District subject to a Conditional Use
Permit. The proponents, Haugland Companies, have now filed plans in support
of their request for a Conditional Use Permit pursuant to the amended
Ordinance.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the Conditional Use
Permit conditioned on:
1. Final adoption of ordinance amendment
2. Watershed District Permits
3. Developer's Agreement covering utility easements and vacations as
required; air and subterranean rights easements; and temporary
construction easements.
4. Landscaping bond covering replacement of plant materials and
restoration of public walks, drives and fixtures.
The proponent, Mr. Gene Haugland was present to respond to questions.
Mr. Haugland addressed the Commission and with graphics explained the
changes that occurred since the Commission last heard this issue. Mr. Haugland
asked the Commission to note the majority of changes occurred on the fagade of
the proposed building and with the exterior building materials. Mr. Haugland
pointed out the exterior materials and building elevation has been refined and in
his opinion the change in the building design/facade allows individual units to
better take advantage of the views. Concluding Mr. Haugland said fine-tuning
still needs to be accomplished with regard to utilities.
Commissioner Brown stated if he remembers correctly from our previous
meeting that certain sidewalks will be widened. Mr. Haugland responded that is
correct, adding the sidewalk along France Avenue will be widened by 3 feet with
the sidewalk along West 50th remaining the same. He noted the sidewalk
between the Arbys site and Ampersand building will also be widened.
Commissioner Losnbury asked Mr. Haugland if there will be a visitor
entrance at the rear of the building. Mr. Haugland responded his initial thought is
to have visitor access only off France Avenue. Mr. Haugland acknowledged it
may be possible that in the future the condo association may desire a rear visitor
entrance, but at this time the building will be designed without that. The entrance
and exit for visitors will be from France Avenue.
Commissioner Lonsbury asked Mr. Haugland if the issues with Mr. Curtin
(property owner of Ampersand) have been resolved. Mr. Haugland responded
he believes they have been resolved. He added discussions are continuing with
regard to erecting a canopy over the adjoining walkway and walkway width.
Chair Workinger asked Mr. Haugland if any changes were made with
regard to guest parking. Mr. Haugland responded the parking element remains
the same with no guest parking in the below grade garage. Only residents of the
building will park their vehicles in that area. Guest parking would be
accommodated in the public ramps or on the public street.
Chair Workinger stated he was unable to attend the last Commission
meeting when this issue was heard and noted there was some discussion
regarding air/subterranean rights and questioned if they have been addressed.
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Mr. Haugland responded air/subterranean rights will be addressed in the
Developer's Agreement and at that time finalized.
Chair Workinger questioned if the trash enclosure would remain in the
present location. Mr. Haugland said the trash enclosure area will remain in the
same location, as it exists today. He explained the majority of the retail tenants
use this trash area. He added he believes Lunds has its own trash enclosure
area, but due to utility placement the conclusion was to retain the trash area as it
presently exists. Chair Workinger questioned if the trash area is secured. Mr.
Haugland responded presently the trash area is secured with a code pad for
access, and to the best of his knowledge that will remain.
Mr. Hosmar Brown, property owner in the 50th & France business area, told
the Commission he still has difficulty with this proposal. He said he agrees with
much of what he sees, but questioned if this is the right location for a
redevelopment of this size. He added his main concern is with traffic and traffic
congestion. Mr. Brown stated he believes traffic in the area will only increase
and this will contribute to that increase. He also added that presently area
merchants already complain that their clients have a hard time finding adequate
parking; this will clearly exacerbate the issue. Mr. Brown said he also worries
about the entrance/exit situation that serves this proposal, pointing out Minnesota
has extreme weather conditions. Concluding, Mr. Brown stated he hopes this
proposal doesn't end up creating a "canyon like" feel to that corner.
Mr. Grabiel moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit approval subject
to staff conditions. Commissioner Fischer seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried. 7-0.
A brief discussion ensued with Commissioners touching on some issues
that still have an element of concern, one being the roadway system of the area.
Mr. Larsen explained the roadway system has been implemented about as far as
the City can go. Mr. Larsen noted in this area traffic has always been an issue
with changes occurring throughout the years on both sides of France Avenue.
III. NEW BUSINESS:
C-05-3 Conditional Use Permit
Good Samaritan Church
5730 Grove Street
Church building expansion
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the applicant is proposing a new
addition extending north from the westerly end of the existing church building and
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a new entry, lobby area adjacent to the east parking lot. No changes to existing
parking areas are proposed.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the Conditional Use
Permit subject to watershed district permits.
Mr. David Knutson, Mr. Hamilton and Mr. Timmer were present
representing the church.
Commissioner Schroeder noted it appears on the landscaping plan that a
significant number of large oak trees will be removed with minimal replacement.
Mr. Knutson addressed the Commission and explained a letter was mailed
to neighbors surrounding the church site inviting them to attend a meeting on
November 30, 2004 to view and discuss the proposal. Continuing, in response to
Commissioner Schroeder's comment, Mr. Knutson acknowledged that
unfortunately a large number of trees will be removed as a result of expansion,
but pointed out the site is large with many trees that will not be disturbed as a
result of this proposal.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners in agreement the proposed
additions to the church are tastefully done, but voiced concern with landscaping
suggesting maybe more should be done with regard to landscaping and
maintaining urban forests. Additional landscaping will also soften the addition.
Commissioner Schroeder moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit
Approval subject to the building plans presented, subject to watershed district
permits and subject to replacement of 26 large oak trees with 26 additional trees.
Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion and requested that approval also
be conditioned on matching exterior materials. Commissioner Schroeder said
that was his intent and agreed exterior materials should match.
Commissioner Brown added he agrees with Commissioner Schroeder's
suggestion of requiring additional landscaping.
Commissioner Grabiel stated he is hesitant to support the motion as
presented. He asked church representatives if they believe there is enough
room on site to support the planting of 26 additional trees. Mr. Hamilton
responded a landscaping plan was submitted with the intent of adding additional
plantings but not to the extent as suggested by Commissioner Schroeder.
Continuing, Mr. Hamilton said with regard to exterior building materials that they
would match the existing church buildings. Commissioner Grabiel said he
agrees with Commissioner Schroeder with regard to tree replacement but is
uncomfortable with the recommendation of replacing tree for tree, especially
since the church has met landscaping code requirements.
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Commissioner Schroeder stated he understands Commissioner Grabiel's
comments adding he does not know the "correct" number of trees that should be
replanted adding the Commission should note Edina is an older community with
aging trees and vegetation and when we can the Commission should try to
maintain our urban forest. Commissioner Grabiel responded he doesn't disagree
with that comment.
Chair Workinger asked Mr. Grabiel what approach would make the most
sense to him.
Commissioner Grabiel suggested that the Commission direct staff to
review the existing vegetation keeping in mind what will be removed. He added
this subject (landscaping) may need more visibility but having this discussion at
this time may not be fair to this applicant especially in light of their compliance
with code.
Mr. Steve Timmer, church member addressed the Commission and
explained to them the building task force agonized over tree removal but after
careful consideration came to the conclusion nothing could be done about it
because of the proposed placement of the new addition. He stated at this time it
would be a hardship for the church to replace tree for tree and asked the
Commission to not request tree/tree replacement as a condition of approval.
Commissioner Lonsbury stated as he views this the Commission can
either act on the motion on the table, deny the request or table this issue until an
additional landscaping plan is presented. Mr. Hamilton asked the Commission to
note the church has met all requirements set forth by City Code. Commissioner
Lonsbury stated he agrees but in his opinion the landscaping plan is not
adequate.
Commissioner Schroeder explained his intent with his motion was to
ensure that additional landscaping is added above what was depicted on the
landscaping plan. He added he does not want to tell the church how to achieve
this and suggested one possibility could be a youth group activity that would
plant seedlings. Commissioner Schroeder said he would love to see the large
trees replaced with other large trees acknowledging that is probably not an
option.
Mr. Larsen interjected adding he believes an option worth considering is to
have planning staff walk the site with the City forester and church officials
identifying the trees that will be lost as a result of this proposal and requesting if
warranted that the church revise their landscaping plan to add additional
plantings of undertimed size.
Commissioner Schroeder withdrew his previous motion and moved to
recommend Conditional Use Permit approval subject to staff conditions, subject
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to matching exterior building materials and subject to planning staff, the city
forester and church officials walking the church site to determine what trees will
be removed and agreeing on the amount of replacements trees and vegetation.
Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commissioner Grabiel questioned being new to the Commission
Watershed approval. Mr. Larsen responded Watershed approval is triggered by
the amount of grading and disruption that will occur on a site as a result of
development or redevelopment. The Watershed District reviews plans to ensure
that water quality standards are met and to measure the rate of water run-off.
S-05-1 The Blake School
City of Hopkins
West of Blake Road and north of Bellmore Lane
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the City of Hopkins has agreed to
sell a 75 -foot wide strip of land to The Blake School. The land extends westerly
along the south side of school property for approximately 1,300 feet. The sale is
in consideration for land acquired by the City for recent improvements to
excelsior Boulevard. The land is in the City of Edina but is owned by the City of
Hopkins.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends of the proposed subdivision. The
sale will not change the function of the land for public use. The City of Edina has
no utilities affected by the sale.
Mr. Griffith was present representing Blake School and interested
neighbors were also present.
Commissioner Lonsbury asked Mr. Larsen if this request also triggers a
Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Larsen responded not at this time. He explained if
in the future the school decides to use this strip of land for school use they would
have to come before the City with an application for a Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Grabiel asked for clarification on the reason this is being
heard by Edina when it is a sale of property. Mr. Larsen explained it is not only a
sale of the property but a re -plat of the Blake School property to incorporate this
strip of land along with the changes that occurred along Excelsior Boulevard with
land taking. Mr. Larsen said both municipalities (Edina, Hopkins) hear this replat.
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Commissioner Fischer acknowledged this is a very peculiar piece of land
and questioned how this strip "came about". Mr. Larsen explained years ago
after streetcars became obsolete the streetcar right-of-ways were made available
for sale. Some street car right-of-ways were added to individual lots while others
were sold. When this strip of right-of-way became available the City of Hopkins
purchased it.
Chair Workinger questioned who maintains this strip of land. Mr. Larsen
responded the City of Hopkins presently maintains the strip of land.
Mr. Bill Griffith addressed the Commission and explained Blake School
plans to retain the strip of land as it exists today. He explained the strip of land
borders the south property line of the Blake School campus and the City of
Hopkins has agreed to sell this strip to the school to offset the taking of Blake
School property when Excelsior Boulevard was redesigned.
Mr. Bob Anthony, 301 Griffith, told the Commission he has a concern not
so much with this strip of land, but the larger piece of land recently purchased by
Blake School. Mr. Anthony said his concern is with paragraph 4 of Exhibit B,
which mentions landscaped area, playing fields, and sidewalks, and questioned if
that reference is for the strip of land (subject property) or for the residential
property Blake School purchased called "Blake Heights".
Chair Workinger interjected and asked Mr. Larsen if any building could
occur on this strip of land. Mr. Larsen responded probably not. He pointed out if
any changes were to be made to the strip of land or any other piece of land in
Edina owned by Blake School the Blake School would have to appear before the
Commission and Council with a Conditional Use Permit application.
Mr. Griffth said when the land purchase agreement was drafted it was
believed the strip of land was in the City of Hopkins. Continuing, Mr. Griffith
pointed out the strip of land in question is replatted as an Outlot and Outlots, at
least to the best of his knowledge, are considered unbuildable in the City of
Edina.
Mr. Larsen acknowledged there might be some confusion with regard to
this request. He explained to the Commission Mr. Anthony in his letter is also
referring to five replatted residential lots on Griffit that received Commission and
Council approval a couple years ago. At that time approval was granted to allow
construction of five new single-family homes. Recently the developer and owner
of the plat known as "Blake Heights" sold the 5 -lot plat to Blake School. After
purchase The Blake School withdrew the five -lot residential plat with the
understanding if they want to develop this land in any other way they would have
to appear before the Commission and Council to do so. Mr. Larsen stressed
future use or redevelopment of this strip of land or other land in Edina owned by
Blake School is not a matter before the Commission at this time.
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Mr. Stevens, 304 Dearborn Street told the Commission his concern is that
vehicles or buses would drive on that strip of land.
Chair Workinger commented if he understands correctly, at least at this
point in time any change to the strip of land would require hearings before both
the Commission and Council. Mr. Larsen responded that is correct, adding Blake
School is aware of that requirement. Mr. Larsen also noted schools and their
activities are permitted conditional uses in the R-1 residential zoning district.
Mr. Griffith stated it is not the intent of Blake School to use this strip of
land as an alley. He reiterated the strip of land will be maintained in its present
state.
Mr. Buzz Jonason told the Commission at present he is considering
purchasing a property on Dearborn Court, adding he is worried about the
potential for future school expansion noting he has no idea what the intention of
the school actually is. Mr. Jonason said this strip of land grants them (Blake
School) direct access to their residential lots in Edina.
Ms. Guandrrame, 302 Dearborn, told the Commission Blake is a very
noisy school with activities going on at all hours, adding with the school
encroaching further into Edina and closer to her property that she doesn't feel
safe.
A resident at 305 Harrison told the Commission she wants to echo what
her neighbors have been saying this evening, which is, their concern that the
school appears to be encroaching further into their residential neighborhood.
Commissioner Fischer moved to recommend division approval subject to
staff conditions. Commissioner Grabiel seconded the motion.
Commissioner Fischer noted in his experience most trail way systems
have agreements in place that protect their use as trail ways and questioned if
this trail way has such an agreement. Mr. Larsen responded to the best of his
knowledge, this "path" does not have such an agreement. He said the replatting
as an Outlot prevents building on the site or change in its present use.
Commissioner Brown commented this appears confusing and asked
where the jurisdiction actually lies. Mr. Larsen said at this time jurisdiction is with
both municipalities, but if the use of this Outlot changes only the City of Edina
would be involved. Mr. Larsen said this evening the Commission is only being
requested to recommend approval of a replat. Mr. Larsen added staff has
recommended approval with no knowledge on what, if anything, The Blake
School plans to do with this Outlot or with their other property in Edina in the
future.
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Commissioner Grabiel said it appears to him, at least at this time, the
proposal before the Commission this evening is for a replat of a 17 -foot wide strip
of land by adding it to the Blake School property. The Outlot designation of the
strip of land prevents the Blake School from changing its use without first coming
before the Commission and Council. Mr. Grabiel noted the Blake School has
been at this location for many years.
Chair Workinger called for the vote. All voted aye; motion carried.
C-05-2 City of Edina/ISD # 273
Edina Community Center and Southview Campus
Proposal to construct two (2) gyms
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the City is requesting a Conditional
Use Permit to allow for the construction of two new gymnasiums on the campus.
One gym is attached to the Community Center, and the other added to
Southview Middle School.
Mr. Larsen explained the City Council and Edina School Board held a joint
public hearing on November 26, 2004. Following that hearing each body voted
to proceed and enter into a joint use agreement with the new facilities paid for by
the City.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the requested
Conditional Use Permit subject to watershed district permits.
Mr. Rozeboom, project architect was present to respond to questions. Mr.
John Keprios was present representing the City of Edina.
Mr. Rozeboom addressed the Commission and with the aide of graphics
pointed out to the Commission the locations of the proposed gyms, greenspace
and traffic circulation patterns. Mr. Rozeboom pointed out one aspect of the
project is that school district users can move between the Community
Center/Middle School and the new gyms internally. This flow makes the "joint
use" component of the project work well.
Mr. Keprios explained the need for additional gyms resulted from the
growth and desire of the City's recreational user groups for more gym space.
Continuing, Mr. Keprios told the Commission over the past decade the City along
with the user groups has had an ongoing discussion on how to provide additional
gym space to meet the demands of growing "house" leagues. Mr. Keprios said
different sites were looked at to achieve more gym space, one being the
Northwest Racquet site, which did not work out. Concluding Mr. Keprios noted
traffic congestion will be eased when events are not scheduled simultaneously,
and the school district and user groups are mindful of this.
Commissioner Brown asked Mr. Keprios whom the user groups would
schedule their activities with. Mr. Keprios responded user groups would continue
to schedule activities through City offices. Commissioner Brown asked if user
fees would be increased as a result of construction of the new gyms. Mr. Keprios
responded user fees would be increased with hourly fees set by the district and a
one-time yearly fee set by the City.
Ms. Friedman, 6612 Sally Lane, addressed the Commission and informed
them the EGAA is very happy with the proposed new gyms. She explained
house league sports continue to grow and any traffic generated is usually not that
intense. She pointed out most user groups car-pool, which reduces the number
of vehicles coming and going. She pointed out house league activities usually do
not meet on weekends except during championship games, which occur a couple
times a year. Concluding, Ms. Friedman said she believes the addition of two
new gyms is a wonderful asset for Edina's youth and the entire community.
Commissioner Brown moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit
Approval. Commissioner Grabiel seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
Commissioner Fischer told the Commission he believes the re -design of
the campus along with the placement of the two new gyms may actually improve
the existing situation, and reduce impact to the neighborhood.
LD -05-2 Brad Colehour
5516-5520 France Avenue South
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponent is seeking a party wall
lot division to facilitate separate ownership for each unit. Mr. Larsen explained
the property does not have the required separate utility connections. Continuing,
Mr. Larsen said proponent has applied to the Edina Construction Board to gain a
waiver from the requirement.
Mr. Larsen concluded approval of the division is subject to a waiver from
the Construction Board of appeals to maintain the existing utility service.
Commissioner Brown moved lot division approval subject to the proponent
obtaining a waiver from the Edina Construction Board. Commissioner Fischer
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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LD -05-3 Robert and Rebecca Prasclunas
6016-6020 Berne Circle
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponents are requesting a
party wall lot division of an existing double bungalow. Mr. Larsen stated the
property meets all requirements for division with separate utilities provided.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends party wall lot division approval.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend lot division approval.
Commissioner Fischer seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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