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MEETING MINUTES
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Jeff
Carpenter, Julie Risser, Nancy Scherer, Kevin Staunton, Michael Schroeder, Steve Brown, Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest and Karwehn Kata
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague, Kris Aaker and Jackie
Hoogenakker
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the March 24, 2010, Planning Commission meeting were filed as submitted.
NEW BUSINESS:
2010.0002.10b Jeffrey Parell and Tony
Giannakakis
5500 Halifax Lane
5504 Halifax Lane
Lot Division
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission that Jeffrey Parell and Tony Giannakakis are
proposing to shift the existing lot line that divides 5500 and 5504 Halifax Lane for the purpose of adding more land area in the side and rear yard of 5504 Halifax Lane. The existing
home at 5500 Halifax would be torn down and a new home built. The home at 5504 Halifax Lane was recently built, and would remain. The new home at 5500 Halifax would be required to meet
all applicable zoning ordinance standards as part of the building permit process. The proposal does not create a new lot.
Planner Tegue asked the Committion to recall that the applicant’s
recently made a similar request to shift the existing lot line, which was approved by the City. However, they have revised their plan for the purpose of adding additional land in the
side and rear yard to the south lot at 5504. The result of this new alignment would mean that the new home at 5500 Halifax would have to be smaller.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the City Council approve the Lot Division of 5504 and 5500 Halifax lane subject to the following findings:
1. The lot width of 5504
Halifax Lane currently does not meet the median lot width requirement. The resulting lot division would result in both lots meeting the median lot width requirement.
2. The resulting
lots comply with all minimum lot size standards of Section 850.11 of the zoning ordinance.
Approval is also subject to the following Conditions:
1. Prior to the City of Edina filing
the approving resolution shifting the lot line, the existing home at 5500 Halifax Lane must be removed from the site.
2. All building activity on either lot must comply with all minimum
zoning ordinance standards.
3. Any new curb cuts would be subject to review and approval of the engineering department.
Appearing for the Applicant
Scott Massey, 1055 Wayzata Boulevard,
Wayzata, MN
Discussion
A discussion ensued with Commissioners expressing concern with the lot division, particularly the notch in the lot line that in their opinion creates an irregular
lot configuration for this area. Commissioners said their concern centers on the potential for owners of the vacant lot (5500 Halifax Lane) to request a variance (because of the notch)
when a new home is constructed on the vacant lot. Commissioners asked for an explanation behind the irregular lot line readjustment.
Planner Teague explained that the owners of 5504
want to take advantage of the beautiful creek views and construct a permanent gazebo with cooking area. The property owner of 5500 has no objection to this reconfiguration. Planner
Teague noted that after the division both lots continue to meet ordinance requirements.
Chair Fischer commented that in his opinion the notch would be hard to manage, especially in
maintaining the grass, etc. Commissioners agreed. Commissioner Fischer noted that he also understands there are no rules preventing this division; both lots would continue to comply
with the ordinance. Planner Teague responded that is correct, adding that throughout Edina there are numerous irregular lot configurations; albeit not in this neighborhood.
Public Comment
Scott Massey said he is appearing on behalf of his client and explained that the proposed reconfiguration allows his client the opportunity to construct a gazebo and
cooking area in his rear yard that would not require a variance and take advantage of creek views. Mr. Massey said his client has no intention of expanding the home, pointing out it’s
a relatively new home. Regarding the adjoining property (5500) that lot is now vacant as per staff’s request.
Further Discussion
Commissioner Forrest said she understands that the
two lots continue to meet ordinance requirements; however, she wondered if this rearrangement meets the spirit of the ordinance. She pointed out this reconfiguration creates unusual
lots configurations in an area of traditional lot configurations.
Commissioner Grabiel noted as previously mentioned that a new house will be constructed on the vacant lot, adding he
doesn’t want the owner of the vacant lot to come in and request a variance for the new house because of the notch. Commissioner Grabiel asked Planner Teague if there is any way this
concern could be attached to the vacant lot. Planner Teague responded that he could have the building department “flag” the address so staff is aware of the variance concern when a
building permit for new construction is submitted.
Commission Action
Commissioner Carpenter moved to recommend lot division approval based on staff findings and subject to staff
conditions:
The existing home on 5500 Halifax Lane must be removed (in compliance)
All building activity on either lot must comply with all minimum zoning ordinance standards.
Any new
curb cuts would be subject to review and approval of the engineering department.
And including the condition that 5500 Halifax Lane is flagged referencing variance concern.
Commissioner
Brown seconded the motion. Ayes; Carpenter, Staunton, Schroeder, Brown, Grabiel Fischer. Nays, Scherer,
Forrest. Motion carried 6-2.
2010.0003.10.a Gary Suomela
5200 and 5202 Grandview Lane
Lot Division
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission Mr. Gary Suomela is proposing to split
his existing lot into two lots to create a lot line separation of the existing double-dwelling at 5200 and 5202 Grandview Lane. There is an existing swimming pool in the rear yard that
would extend onto the south lot after the subdivision.
Planner Teague noted there was one duplex in this neighborhood that was divided in a similar manner. In addition, in 1979, this
same lot was approved for this same lot division; however, the approving resolution was never filed at the County to officially separate the units. Conditions of approval at that time
were that the swimming pool must be entirely fenced and be assigned to the north lot, and the separate sewer and water connections be installed.The utility connections were separated,
however, the pool was not fenced to the north lot.
Planner Teague pointed out most of these duplexes in this area were constructed with a fire-rated wall separating the two units.
It is assumed that this structure was similarly constructed. However, if it was not, the applicant has agreed to construct the necessary fire-wall between the two units. This would provide
protection for each unit, should there be a fire on the other side.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the city council approve the lot division as requested, subject
to the following conditions:
1. The two units must be separated by a fire-wall as approved by the building official. The approving resolution dividing the two lots will not be filed
at Hennepin County prior to the building official’s review and approval of a wall separating the two units.
2. A fence must be constructed around the swimming pool to separate it from
the south lot. An easement must also be established over the portion of the swimming pool that encroaches onto the south lot. The approving resolution will not be filed until both of
these items have been completed.
Discussion
A discussion ensued about the requirement of the easement pointing out that the easement is outside of the City’s prevue and there is the
possibility that the swimming
pool could be removed It was also noted that it appears from the survey that fencing on the subject property is on City right-of-way. Planner Teague said he would have Wayne Houle,
City Engineer, review the survey and if Mr. Houle wants the fence removed from the right-of-way it would have to be removed. Continuing, Planner Teague suggested that if the lot division
is approved the fence/right-of-way issue should be added as a condition of approval. Planner Teague said the City Attorney will review all conditions and file the Resolution only when
all conditions are met.
Action
Commissioner Grabiel moved to recommend lot division approval based on staff findings and subject to the following conditions:
The two units must be
separated by a fire-wall
A fence must be constructed around the swimming pool to separate if from the south lot;
With the following condition:
That the City Engineer reviews the fence
encroachment on City right- of-way and if the Engineer deems that the fence needs to be removed removal of the fence is required before the Resolution is filed.
Commissioner Brown seconded
the motion. All voted aye; motion for approval carried.
- Planning Commissioner Update on the Public Works Site Small Area Guide Plan Process-
Introduction
Chair Fischer introduced
Commissioners Staunton and Schroeder informing the Commission and public that the two would be briefing the Commission on what occurred during the very fast-paced 21-day public works
site small area guide process. Chair Fischer stated that although the process was fast-paced; everyone involved found it to be a very successful.
Commissioner Staunton introduced to
Commissioners members of the Community Advisory Team (CAT) present this evening: Kim Montgomery, Nancy Grazzini-Olson, Andy Brown, Mike Platteter, Sue Davison, and Peter Sussman member
of the Design Team.
Commissioner’s Staunton and Schroeder delivered their presentation and recapped the following meetings:
April 8, 2010 - Kick-Off Meeting at the Edina City Hall. At this meeting members
of the CAT and the Design Team were chosen and introduced.
April 10, 2010 - Coordination Meeting –
brief meeting before a tour of the site. Debrief after the tour. Grange Hall/public works site.
April 12, 2010 - Developers Roundtable meeting/Edina City Hall.
April 14, 2010 – Focus
Group meeting with property and business owners/Edina City Hall.
April 21, 2010 - Community Meeting/Edina City Hall
April 22, 2010 - CAT Summary Meeting/Edina City Hall
April 23 &
24, 2010 - Design Charrette. Two days of design at the Edina Senior Center.
April 26, 2010 - Open House – the open house presented documentation of the process and the schematics
incorporating input from residents, CAT members and the Design Team
April 27, 2010 - Refinement Meeting/City Hall
April 28, 2010 - Planning Commission briefing.
Public Comments
Mr.
Brown addressed the Commission and said for him being involved in a pro-active process, not a reactive process, was a great experience.
Ms. Grazzini-Olson said she is the property owner
of the office building on Arcadia/Eden (on stilts) and agreed with Mr. Brown that the process was awesome to be part of. She said she was especially impressed with the information supplied
by Jack Broze, specialist on transportation issues.
Commissioner Comments:
Chair Fischer thanked Commissioners Brown and Staunton for their time, adding they did an excellent job.
Commissioners expressed their wholehearted support for the project and well deserved thanks on an unbelievable effort.
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2009.0004
.10b Building Height Overlay
Ordinance Amendment
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Planner Presentation
Planner Teague reported that at last Tuesday
night's City Council meeting, the Council considered the building height ordinance that the Planning Commission recommended
at last month's meeting. The Council did not take any action on the ordinance; and delayed consideration until May 4, knowing that the Planning Commission was scheduled to meet before
May 4. The Council noted that the Commission may wish to offer additional comments or information on the proposed amendment; in particular in regard to the issue of podium height.
Planner
Teague explained that the proposed ordinance does not specifically address the podium height issue; rather it is addressed through the existing setback provisions where the building
height determines setback. Further, we have recommended to the City Council that podium height would be further addressed through a PUD ordinance which could encourage buildings to be
pulled up closer to the street to achieve the podium height principles within the Comprehensive Plan.
Planner Teague noted as the Planning Commission has discussed, the PUD would give
the City the most leverage, and enable us to look at sites individually to determine if podium height is appropriate. The Commission concluded that pulling buildings up to the street
by a variance may be problematic in proving a hardship.
Discussion
Chair Fischer told the Commission it was very informative for him to watch last week’s City Council meeting. Chair
Fischer said after watching that meeting he came to the conclusion that the Council and the Planning Commission have similar goals and have more in common than he originally thought.
Commissioner Fischer said what he took from watching the meeting was that podium height was challenging to correctly understand and it meant different things to different people.
Commissioner
Scherer asked Planner Teague what the Commission’s assignment is on this task. Planner Teague responded the Commission can again discuss the building and podium height issue, offer comments,
or stand by their previous action.
Chair Fischer suggested that the Commission meet jointly with the City Council to gain a better understanding of what podium height means to each Council/Commission
member and how to achieve podium height if so desired. He acknowledged that either the ordinance or the Comprehensive Plan may need to be amended to gain compliance with Met Council.
Commissioners expressed agreement that a joint meeting/work session is important to better address the issue of building height.
Commissioner Schroeder said in his opinion it would
be great to know what everyone’s definition of “podium” height is and how to achieve it. Commissioner Schroeder said if one takes the Southdale campus as an example he believes there
are those that think podium height positions tall(er) buildings in the middle of the site; however, that isn’t necessarily the case
Commissioner Grabiel commented that a good example of podium height would be the Foshay Tower. Commissioners agreed that was a good example.
Commissioner Forrest suggested that podium
height could be varied according to density.
Planner Teague asked the Commission to recall they previously determined a way to achieve podium height was through the PUD process (things
can be done parcel by parcel). He added one reason the City is struggling to define this tool is that parcels in the same zoning district need to have the same requirements.
Commissioner
Staunton said he recalls that aligning the Zoning Ordinance with the Comprehensive Plan was a goal to achieve by July and asked Planner Teague how important it was to meet Met Council’s
time line. Planner Teague responded that Met Council is very aware the City is in the process of updating the Zoning Ordinance, adding that it’s more important to the Met Council that
land uses are in compliance, not the height of a building on a particular parcel.
Commissioner Forrest asked if there is any concern that an application may come in during the re-write
process. Planner Teague stated that the City Council would have to make a decision at that time to either amend the Comprehensive Plan or the Zoning Ordinance, so they would be consistent.
Commission
er Staunton said if he understands State Statue correctly that the Comprehensive Plan supersedes the Zoning Ordinance. Planner Teague agreed.
Further discussion continued on the advantages
of a joint meeting with the City Council with all Commissioners in agreement that a joint meeting be scheduled to discuss building and podium height. No formal action was taken.
Chair
Fischer asked Planner Teague to convey this request to Council Members. Continuing, Chair Fischer acknowledged that the City Council is extremely busy; however, the Planning Commission
would like to meet with them for an extended period of time; not just before a Council Meeting (if at all possible).
INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer acknowledged back of packet
materials.
Commissioner Risser reported that the Green Steps Program is proceeding very well.
Planner Teague informed Commissioners the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee will meet again
on May 12th.
Commissioner Carpenter reported that the By-Law Committee is finishing up the task of writing By-Laws for the Commission and would be presenting them for consideration at the next Planning
Commission Meeting.
NEXT MEETING DATE:
May 26, 2010
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved adjournment at 8:55 pm. Commissioner Risser seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
Respectfully submitted:
Jackie Hoogenakker