HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-10-24 Planning Commission Meeting PacketsAGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF EDINA, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
OCTOBER 24, 2012
7:00 PM
I. CALL TO ORDER
I1. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
A. Minutes of the regular meeting of the Edina Planning Commission October 10, 2012.
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
During "Community Comment," the Planning Commission will invite residents to share new issues or
concerns that haven't been considered in the past 30 days by the Commission or which aren't slated for
future consideration. Individuals must limit their comments to three minutes. The Chair may limit the
number of speakers on the same issue in the interest of time and topic. Generally speaking, items that are
elsewhere on this morning's agenda may not be addressed during Community Comment. Individuals
should not expect the Chair or Commission Members to respond to their comments today. Instead, the
Commission might refer the matter to staff for consideration at a future meeting.
VI. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Sketch Plan Review — 5109-5125 West 49th Street
B. Zoning Ordinance Amendments — For Discussion
• Grading/Retaining Walls
• Subdivisions
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
• Council Connection
• Attendance
• Council Minutes
VIII. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS
IX. STAFF COMMENTS
X. ADJOURNMENT
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Date: October 24, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Sketch Plan Review — 5109-5125 West 49" Street
The Planning Commission is asked to consider a sketch plan request to redevelop
three lots at 5109-5125 West 49th Street. (See property location on pages Al A6.)
The applicant is proposing to tear down the existing two apartments and single
family home on the site and build an 18 -unit attached housing development. (See
narrative and plans on pages A7 A13.) The subject properties are 1.28 acres in
size; therefore, the proposed density of the project would be 14 units per acre.
The Planning Commission has considered the following sketch plan proposals for
this site:
• On March 28, 2012, the applicant proposed sketch plan for a six -story, sixty -
foot tall, 98 -unit senior housing building. The density proposed was 71 units
per acre. (See minutes from the Planning Commission discussion on pages
A15—A19.)
• On June 27, 2012, the applicant proposed sketch plan for a four-story, forty
four -foot tall, 60 -unit senior housing building. The density proposed was 43
units per acre. (See minutes from the Planning Commission discussion on
pages A20—A23.)
The consensus of the Planning Commission for both of those proposals was that
the development proposed was too much for the site.
The existing property is zoned PRD -2, Planned Residential District -2, which allows
residential building containing six or fewer dwelling units. The existing apartments
contain four and five units each. The applicant would be seeking a rezoning of the
property to PRD -4, Planned Residential District, or PUD, Planned Unit
Development. The site is guided LDAR, Low Density Attached Residential (1-4
units per acre), therefore, a Comprehensive Plan Amendment to HDR, High
Density Residential would be required to allow a density over 12 units per acre.
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The applicant is again requesting a Sketch Plan review to solicit comments from
the Planning Commission and City Council. Opinions or comments provided to the
applicant shall be considered advisory only, and shall not constitute a binding
decision on the request.
The following compliance table demonstrates how the proposed new building would
comply with the PRD -2, Planned Residence District -2 Ordinance Standards. Please
note that several variances would be required under the existing zoning standards.
Compliance Table
-Variances required
The applicant has significantly reduced the density from the previous proposals.
The number of variances has been reduced from the previous requests, and the
variances would be relatively small. The proposed density seems reasonable for
this site, given its proximity to Highway 100, Vernon Avenue, the railroad tracks and
Holiday Gas Station.
The proposed development is similar to the pocket neighborhood concept that has
been discussed over the past year. This site appears to be a good fit for this
concept. It would provide a transitional land use between the single-family homes
and Vernon Avenue and the Commercial area to the west. While the proposed
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Proposed .
(PRD -2)
Front — 49th Street
30 feet
25 feet*
Front — Vernon
30 feet
20 feet*
Side — East
30 feet
15 feet*
Side — West
30 feet
20 feet*
Building Height
2-1/2 stories or
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30 feet, whichever is
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Building Coverage
25%
37%*
Density
8 units per acre (11
13 units per acre* (18 units)
units)
Parking Stalls
2 enclosed spaces
2 enclosed spaces per unit
per unit
-Variances required
The applicant has significantly reduced the density from the previous proposals.
The number of variances has been reduced from the previous requests, and the
variances would be relatively small. The proposed density seems reasonable for
this site, given its proximity to Highway 100, Vernon Avenue, the railroad tracks and
Holiday Gas Station.
The proposed development is similar to the pocket neighborhood concept that has
been discussed over the past year. This site appears to be a good fit for this
concept. It would provide a transitional land use between the single-family homes
and Vernon Avenue and the Commercial area to the west. While the proposed
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density would be classified as high density in the Comprehensive Plan, it is on the
very low end, of what the City of Edina has allowed for high density development in
the past. See the following table:
Development
Address
Units
Units Per Acre
Yorktown Continental
7151 York
264
45
The Durham
7201 York
264
46
York Plaza Condos
7200-20 York
260
34
York Plaza Apartments
7240-60 York
260
29
Edina Place Apartments
7300-50' York
139
15
Walker Elder Suites
7400 York
72
40
Yorkdale Townhomes
7429 York
90
9
7500 York Cooperative
7500 York
416
36*
Edinborough Condos
76xx York
392
36
South Haven
3400 Parklawn
100
42
Proposed New Apts. at the
YMCA
7355 York
130
22
The Waters
Colonial Drive
139
22*
*Recent City Approvals
PUD Zoning
Per Section 850.04. Subd. 4 D provides the following regulations for a PUD:
1. Purpose and Intent. The purpose of the PUD District is to provide
comprehensive procedures and standards intended to allow more creativity and
flexibility in site plan design than would be possible under a conventional zoning
district. The decision to zone property to PUD is a public policy decision for the
City Council to make in its legislative capacity. The purpose and intent of a PUD
is to include most or all of the following:
a. provide for the establishment of PUD (planned unit development) zoning
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districts in appropriate settings and situations to create or maintain a
development pattern that is consistent with the City's Comprehensive
Plan;
b. promote a more creative and efficient approach to land use within the
City, while at the same time protecting and promoting the health, safety,
comfort, aesthetics, economic viability, and general welfare of the City;
c. provide for variations to the strict application of the land use regulations
in order to improve site design and operation, while at the same time
incorporate design elements that exceed the City's standards to offset the
effect of any variations. Desired design elements may include:
sustainable design, greater utilization of new technologies in building
design, special construction materials, landscaping, lighting, stormwater
management, pedestrian oriented design, and podium height at a street
or transition to residential neighborhoods, parks or other sensitive uses;
d. ensure high quality of design and design compatible with surrounding
land uses, including both existing and planned;
e. maintain or improve the efficiency of public streets and utilities;
f. preserve and enhance site characteristics including natural features,
wetland protection, trees, open space, scenic views, and screening;
g. allow for mixing of land uses within a development;
h. encourage a variety of housing types including affordable housing; and
L ensure the establishment of appropriate transitions between differing land
uses.
2. Applicability/Criteria
a. Uses. All permitted uses, permitted accessory uses, conditional uses,
and uses allowed by administrative permit contained in the various
zoning districts defined in Section 850 of this Title shall be treated as
potentially allowable uses within a PUD district, provided they would be
allowable on the site under the Comprehensive Plan. Property currently
zoned R-1, R-2 and PRD -1 shall not be eligible for a PUD.
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b. Eligibility Standards. To be eligible for a PUD district, all development
should be in compliance with the following:
where the site of a proposed PUD is designated for more than
one (1) land use in the Comprehensive Plan, the City may
require that the PUD include all the land uses so designated or
such combination of the designated uses as the City Council
shall deem appropriate to achieve the purposes of this
ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan;
ii. any PUD which involves a single land use type or housing type
may be permitted provided that it is otherwise consistent with
the objectives of this ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan;
iii. permitted densities may be specifically stated in the
appropriate planned development designation and shall be in
general conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; and
iv. the setback regulation, building coverage and floor area ratio of
the most closely related conventional zoning district shall be
considered presumptively appropriate, but may be departed
from to accomplish the purpose and intent described in #1
above.
The proposed development would be a huge improvement over the existing
buildings on the site. The applicant would however, still need to demonstrate
that the development would meet the PUD criteria above. Potential ways to
meet the criteria, some of which are described in the applicant narrative, would
be through building design, creative site design, sustainability, pedestrian
oriented development with pedestrian connections, and potentially affordable
housing. Given the site's visibility, it could provide a gateway into the
Grandview area.
Traffic
A traffic study would need to be completed to determine impacts on adjacent
roadways. Concern has been expressed with the previous request from
residents in regard to congestion that would be created at the intersection of
Brookside and Interlachen Boulevard.
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After much thought and market study, the Vernon Avenue Housing development
has been reconfigured to be an 18 -unit townhome development. The units will be
3 levels and 30' high, each with their own tuck -under 2 -car garage. They will
range in gross floor area from 3120 to 3600 square feet. The development is
located on three parcels of land adjacent to the Vernon Avenue exit ramp from
Hwy. 100 southbound. The parcels are between Vernon Avenue on the south
and 49th Street on the north.
The development is envisioned to meet the demands of empty -nesters and those
who want to stay in Edina and downsize their homes. However, life -cycle housing
is currently in short supply. We see this development fitting in well with the
current GrandView Heights Small Area Plan and many of its suggestions.
Taking the Planning Commission's and Staffs previous comments into
consideration, we've reduced the density and scale to something we feel better
fits within the neighborhood context. The number of units currently equates to
approximately 14 units/acre. The building has been reduced in height from the
previous scheme from 4 stories to 3 stories, fitting within the zoning requirements
for height.
Adding a townhome development at this location is appropriate and will bring
public value to the city and neighborhood. The creation of life -cycle housing with
a high-level of amenities is an excellent public value. With its location near Hwy.
100, the development allows easy vehicular access for those who have cars. We
believe that by locating the development here that we are eliminating additional
traffic that will filter into the heart of the neighborhood
One of the key elements of our site plan is how we are connecting the
development to greater Edina. We are still planning to add a public walkway to
our site that connects 49th Street and the neighborhood beyond directly to Vernon
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suggestions of bicycle and pedestrian paths. We also anticipate improving the
sidewalk and boulevard along Vernon, helping to create a better connection to the
east. We envision this as a catalyst towards beginning the "complete streets"
transformation of Vernon as outlined in the small area plan.
One of our sustainability goals is to retain as much of the mature vegetation and
trees as possible, ensuring the development has a good vegetative buffer from
the surrounding traffic. This also benefits the developments heating and cooling
costs, as the trees will help keep the building cooler during the summer months,
and when the leaves drop, allow the sun to warm the building during winter.
The parcels - 5109, 5117, and 5125 491h Street W — are 54,393 square feet (1.25
acres) in size and zoned PRD -2. The current zoning allows 2.5 stories/30' and 6
units. The current zoning requires 7300 s.f./unit. Due to our proposed number of
units, we are anticipating a need to up -zone these parcels to a PRD4 zoning
classification. A rezoning to PRD -4 allows 2900 sf/unit — this would allow 19 units,
we are proposing 18.
We do not anticipate taking any MLA bonuses at this time, though we will need to
address some minor setback adjustments via variances.
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1. Rezoning from PRD -2 to PRD4
2. Comprehensive Plan Amendment
3. Setback Variances
4. Site Plan Review
We may possibly consider rezoning to a PUD in lieu of the previous list, but would
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A. Sketch Plan Review for Senior Housing - 5 109-512 5 West 49th Street for
Hunt Associates
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague reported that the Planning Commission is being asked to consider a
sketch plan proposal to redevelop three lots at 5109-5125 49th Street West. The
applicant is proposing to tear down the existing two apartment buildings and single-
family home and build a new six story, sixty foot tall, 98 -unit senior housing
building.
Teague pointed out the existing properties are zoned PRD -2, Planned Residential
District which allow residential buildings containing six of fewer units. Teague said
should the City decide to rezone these sites to PUD, the proposed setbacks, height of
the building and number of parking stalls would become the standards for the site.
Continuing, Teague said a traffic study would need to be completed to determine
impacts on adjacent roadways. Concern was expressed from residents in regard to
congestion that would be created at the intersection of Brookside Avenue and
Interlachen Boulevard.
Concluding, Teague stated which the proposal would be an improvement over the
existing buildings on the site, staff is not sure that the proposal would rise to the
level of meeting the purpose and intent of a PUD. The proposal far exceeds allowed
densities. Seven variances would also be required under traditional senior housing
zoning.
Appearing for the Applicant
Daniel Hunt, Hunt and Associates, David Motzenbecker, BKV Group
Chair Grabiel explained that before the Commission this evening is a sketch plan
review. Grabiel clarified that a sketch plan wasn't a public hearing. It's an
opportunity for the developer to obtain feedback from the Planning Commission
on their concept.
Discussion/Comments
Chair Grabiel told the Commission he seems to remember the Commission and
Council approving a development concept in this area for townhomes, adding
he doesn't remember the unit count. Planner Teague responded that Chair
Grabiel was correct. The Council approved a 6 -unit townhouse development,
however, the townhouse development only included the R-1 lot and right-of-way.
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Commissioner Forrest observed that ordinance stipulates a building height limit
of 2 -stories in the PRD -2 zoning district. Planner Teague agreed adding PRD -2
also contains a density cap of 6 -units.
Mr. Hunt addressed the Commission and said he believes the proposed use of
the site as senior housing is good. Continuing, Hunt explained in Edina there is
demand for senior housing. Edina residents want to be able to remain in their
community when it comes time for them to sell their home. This proposal gives
them that option. Hunt introduced David Motzenbecker to speak more on the
proposal.
Mr. Motzenbecker told the Commission that in his opinion this is a key piece and
an excellent location for a senior building. Continuing, Motzenbecker said
that the project will entail tearing down the existing two apartments and single-
family home to construct a new 98 -unit, 6 story structure and rezoning the site to
PUD incorporating the requirements of the City's PSR -4 zoning. The parcel is
located adjacent to the Vernon Avenue exit ramp and West 49th Street.
Motzenbecker said in his opinion the proposed building would bookend with
Grandview. With graphics Motzenbecker pointed out design elements and the
goal of incorporating this site into the greater Grandview area. Motzenbecker
also noted the goal of the ETC was to establish a comprehensive living streets
policy that integrated all modes of transportation. Motzenbecker said he believes
this project is a step in the right direction in implementing that goal. Concluding,
Motzenbecker said they looked to the Grandview small area development plan
and incorporated its key principles into their site. One principle was key, turning
perceivable barriers into opportunities. In this respect the natural topography
actually became an asset.
Chair Grabiel said in his opinion this may be a very difficult area to "get out of
including getting onto Interlachen Boulevard. Mr. Motzenbecker acknowledged
that and informed the Commission a traffic study needs to be completed to
ensure traffic is handled appropriately. Continuing, Motzenbecker said they also
anticipate improving the sidewalks and boulevard along Vernon. Chair Grabiel
noted their reference to senior housing and asked exactly what type of senior
housing this would be. Motzenbecker said that the population served would be
able bodied seniors 62+. Chair Grabiel asked if the units would be market rate or
something else. Motzenbecker responded that the units would be market rate
and be around $2,000 per month depending on unit size.
Commissioner Staunton said he has a concern with the request as it relates to
zoning/PUD/PSR-4. Staunton said to him it appears to be an excuse to get around
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code. Mr. Motzenbecker said their intent was to create the best development
possible and tie into the Grandview small area plan by bringing connection to the
Grandview area. Vernon Avenue would also be enhanced through landscaping and
walkways along with boulevard enhancement. Aligning the project with the PSR -4
zoning district provides the opportunity for the project to implement bonuses.
Commissioner Fischer said he has a difficult time justifying a building of this size
and density in a small residential neighborhood. Mr. Motzenbecker said their
intent was to set the building as far back from the street (491h Street) as possible and
add amenities to the front of the building. Motzenbecker said the building would be
200' from the nearest residents across 49th. Concluding, Motzenbecker said they
took advantage of the topography when designing the building pointing out that
the topography absorbs the building height.
Commissioner Carpenter said in his opinion the building is too large.
Carpenter asked the developers how parking was handled; not only parking for
residents of the building but for guests. Mr. Motzenbecker said the building was
designed with 132 enclosed parking spaces those spaces include spaces for
visitor parking. Carpenter questioned if that would really work.
Commissioner Staunton stated in his opinion this plan is very aggressive and causes
him concern. Staunton said he likes the attention paid to Vernon Avenue; however
the unit count is way too high; more attention needs to be paid to the north side
and traffic is a major concern. Staunton noted the one-way in and out scenario is
difficult at best.
Commissioner Platteter agreed and questioned site circulation, traffic circulation on
West 49th St, site drop-off, metro mobility, deliveries and visitor parking. Platteter
said that he doesn't think the drop-off area as sketched would work. There's just too
much going on with this building.
Commissioner Forrest added she was also concerned with the circulation on the
site and on 49th St. This proposal will certainly add additional traffic into the area
pointing out it's a one way in and out. Continuing, Forrest also said in her
opinion the building is too tall, the site is too tight (especially on the east), and its
just too much, Concluding, Forrest said the Commission also has to keep in mind
housing trends change over time, adding it may be a senior building today
but maybe not in the future.
Commissioner Schroeder said the site intrigues him with the question of how you
transition from Vernon into the residential neighborhood while maintaining the
residential character. Schroeder said in his opinion this isn't a very friendly
project. He added the building needs to relate better to the R-1 neighborhood.
Concluding, Schroeder said the building at least at the residential level on 49th St.
needs to be scaled back.
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Commissioner Staunton agreed with Schroeder's comments pointing out the
proposal increases the density 10 -fold.• It's just too much. Concluding, Staunton
said that he's also not sure if this is consistent with the GrandView Framework.
The building is way out of scale.
Mr. Motzenbecker asked the Commission if they could provide some guidance
on the number of units they would be comfortable with.
Commissioner Staunton said traffic is another large issue. He said the one way
in and out nature of this neighborhood along with the RR tracks is key in
redeveloping this site and achieving the correct unit count. Staunton concluded that
he doesn't know the "right" unit number.
Commissioner Potts suggested that the applicant take another look and respond
more to the topography and to the residential neighborhood. Potts asked if their
intent was to build the building and sell it or would they continue to manage the
property. Mr. Hunt responded they would build and manage the property.
Commissioner Fischer asked the applicants if they spoke with their neighbors.
Mr. Motzenbecker responded they had, adding around 15-20 neighbors came to
a neighborhood meeting. Motzenbecker said they received both positive and
negative feedback.
Commissioner Forrest indicated the proposed use is fine with her, reiterating her
concern is massing and traffic. Forrest said in her opinion this project isn't the right
"transition" into the neighborhood. Concluding, Commissioner Forrest said that in
her opinion 20 units at 2 % stories may be the right transition. As presented it's just
too large.
Chair Grabiel said he agrees with all comments thus far adding his concern is
that the building is just too large and the transition into the R-1 neighborhood just
isn't there. Grabiel said he doesn't want to give false encouragement, adding he
believes the use is right; however this is just way to large.
Mr. Motzenbecker said he understands the Commissions comments indicating they
want to see a smaller building. He asked the Commission if they could provide him
with a unit range.
Commissioner Schroeder commented that he understands the applicant is
looking for a number; however, that can't be provided. Schroeder said he
wants to see a creative solution that is sensitive to the neighborhood.
Concluding Schroeder said there are other options out there.
Commissioner Carpenter suggested considering other areas, adding this may not
be the right site.
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Chair Grabiel thanked the applicants for their presentation adding the
Commission would be receptive to them bringing forward another sketch plan for
review.
Public Comment
David Valentine, 5021 Hankerson, told the Commission he doesn't think a
building of this size belongs in a residential neighborhood. Valentine said he has no
objection that it's a senior building; however, the building is just too large with
too many units.
B. M dification to the Redevelopment Plan for Southeast Edina
Re velopment Project Area and the TIF Plan for the Establish ent of the
Sout ale 2 TIF District.
Planner P
Planner Teagu7iormed the Commission the City Counci 'sconsidering the
establishment TIF District that would include uthdale and surrounding
parcels.
Teague explained the pu ose o/eatzents.
TIF was to facilitate
improvements to Southda inclwing renovations to common areas;
new entrances, flooring, ligh ' gooms, parking deck lighting,
exterior seating, columns and i nts. Teague said at this time there
are no proposed changesin use y with the proposed improvement
project.
Teague told the Commissioat at thi ime they are being asked to determine
by resolution that the pro osed improve ent to the common areas are consistent
with the/eexplained
Plan.
CommisPlanner Teague to clarify eir action.
Planner ed the Commission is being a ed to determine by resolution
that the of TIF funds to improve common reqs was consistent
with thee Plan.
Fommissioner Fischer moved to adopt the resolution as outlil�ed by City
staff on page Al. Commissioner Platteter seconded the motion. All voted
aye; motion carried 9-0.
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B. Sketch Plan Review - BKV Group - 5109 and 5117 West 491h Street. Vernon
Avenue Senior Housing
Planner Teague informed the Commission they are being asked to consider a
sketch plan request to redevelop three lots at 5109-5125 West 49th Street. The
applicant is proposing to tear down the existing two apartments and single family
home on the site and building a new four story 44 -foot tall, 60 unit senior housing
building. The density of the project would be 43 units per acre.
Teague reminded the Commission the applicant had previously proposed a six story,
sixty foot tall, 98 -unit senior housing building that was considered by the Planning
Commission on March 28, 2012.
Teague explained that the existing property is zoned PRD -2, Planned Residential
District -2, which allows residential building containing six or fewer dwelling units.
The existing apartments contain four and five units each. The applicant would be
seeking a rezoning of the property to PUD, Planned Unit Development. The site is
guided LDAR, Low Density Attached Residential (1-4 units per acre), therefore, a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment to HDR, High Density Residential would be
required.
The applicant is again requesting a Sketch Plan review to solicit comments from the
Planning Commission and City Council. Opinions or comments provided to the
applicant shall be considered advisory only, and shall not constitute a binding
decision on the request.
Concluding Teague indicated that staff remains concerned with the proposed density
of the proposed density of the proposal at 44 units per acre. While the maximum
density of the PSR -4 District is 44 units per acre as requested, it is still at the high end
of what the City of Edina has allowed for high density development in the past.
Additionally, this site is adjacent to single-family residential homes to the north and
east. The City's other high density residential sites in town are not located so close to
single-family residential areas. They are generally located in the Southdale area.
Appearing for the Applicant
David Motzenbecker, BKV Group and Jim Hunt, Hunt and Associates, applicant
Chair Grabiel welcomed everyone present and explained that the process for Sketch
Plan Review allows a developer to bring a development/redevelopment plan before
the Planning Commission to solicit comments and opinions. A Sketch Plan Review is
not an official application and is not a public hearing. It is a public meeting.
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Page 11 of 15
Jim Hunt, addressed the Commission and said he was excited to be present this
evening to share the significant changes made to the plan since the Commission last
viewed it. Hunt introduced David Motzenbecker.
Mr. Motzenbecker told the Commission the unit count and building height has been
decreased from 98 -units to 60 -units and from 6 to 4 -stories. Continuing,
Motzenbecker said the setback of the building from West 49th Street was increased to
82 -feet. Motzenbecker told the Commission he would stand for
comments/questions.
Commissioner Potts said the massing along Vernon Avenue in his opinion is
acceptable; however he has two points of concern as follows:
Concerns with the R-1 residential properties directly adjacent and to the east
of the subject site. How will this impact them.
Traffic. Traffic and stacking is a major concern. There is only one way in and
one way out of this neighborhood. Has a complete traffic study been done on
the intersection at 49th St and Brookside and Brookside at Interlachen. Also,
what about the RR tracks -they potentially poise a real stacking problem.
Stacking at the most at the tracks would be 8 -car lengths. This is an issue.
Mr. Motzenbecker agreed that with only one egress it will be challenging, however,
they have to deal with what exists. Motzenbecker said he was open to any
suggestions.
Commissioner Platteter agreed with Potts and added that his concern remains the
same as before, internal circulation and drop off. Platteter said the site cannot
function without a clearly designated drop off area. He pointed out as a senior
facility there will be Metro Mobility drop offs, and the usual residential deliveries;
not to mention medical deliveries, US mail and visitors. A lot will be going on in this
area.
Chair Grabiel said the Commission supports redevelopment, but in this instance the
topographical issues, proximity to RR tracks and the R-1 properties to north create
difficulty for him to support the request as submitted. Grabiel said he can't see the
benefit to the immediate neighbors nor the community as the result of this proposal.
Mr. Motzenbecker said that the site will be re -landscaped and everything possible
will be done to retain the trees along Vernon Avenue and nestle this building into the
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hill away from the R-1 properties. Motzenbecker said that in his opinion the
introduction of more life-style housing to Edina is a benefit to its residents and
improving the site is also a big plus. Continuing, Motzenbecker pointed out market
analysis supports the theory when people can no longer live in their single family
homes they want to find housing in the same area; even neighborhood when
available.
Commissioner Fischer commented that this request also includes an amendment to
the Comprehensive Plan which would be a policy decision; however, for this
neighborhood amending the Comprehensive Plan from low-density residential to
high-density residential is a big leap. Fischer acknowledged that the proposal can be
viewed as an improvement; however, this neighborhood is single family with two
low-density buildings, adding he doesn't believe this type of density compensates for
the improvements to the site and additional housing options.
Commissioner Potts stated he feels certain aspects of the project can be readdressed,
adding he believes the proposal presented this evening is better than the previous
proposal; however he still can't get by the traffic. Potts said to him that's the largest
hurdle. The one way in and out and adding more density is a big concern for him.
Commissioner Scherer said she just can't get past the density. She stated in her
opinion this is too much and too close to residential R-1 properties, pointing out R-1
properties are directly north and east. Scherer concluded reiterating the density of
this project is too much
Commissioner Forrest said she has a number of concerns with this project. Her
issues are with density, drop-off and pickup, street parking possibilities, staffing and
traffic. Forrest stated in her opinion the proposed building is uncomfortable to enter
and exit, pointing out the proposal has access steps to Vernon Avenue that are steep;
especially for seniors. Concluding, Forrest pointed out a rezoning to PSR -4 may "fit"
the project better, adding whatever process they pick; as presented this one is just
too much.
Mr. Hunt responded that the proposed building will not have 24-hour staff and if
"manned" would only have day staff. He asked the Commission to note that the
proposed building; although for seniors, is proposed for the active senior that lives
independently.
Commissioner Staunton said he agrees with many of the comments from
Commissioners and added he continues to believe what's proposed is too dense.
Staunton stated if the plan were to proceed the density must be reduced significantly.
The proposal as submitted is just too dense for this site. Continuing, Staunton said
he may feel differently if the entrance to the building was off Vernon Avenue, but it
isn't, and the 49th Street entrance/exit is limited to one-way in and out, adding the
railroad tracks and the steep hill to gain access to Interlachen/Vernon leave little
stacking room for vehicles. Concluding, Staunton said he can't support the project as
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proposed. He said he could envision townhomes; maybe 10-12, but can't visualize an
apartment building of this density in this spot.
Mr. Motzenbecker informed the Commission they did consider a rezoning to PSR -4,
adding with bonuses there may be a comfortable unit count range the developer
could proceed with. Motzenbecker said he would take "another look" at the site and
the proposed density.
Chair Grabiel reiterated his concern is with the size of the building. Grabiel said the
building in a sense is on the wrong side of the hill; less disruption to the
neighborhood would occur if the topography was more in their favor. Chair Grabiel
thanked the applicants for their plan and told them to take all Commission comments
in good faith.
Mr. Motzenbecker and Mr. Hunt thanked the Commission for their interest and
comments. a
VIII.
Chair Grabiel acknowledged "back of packet" materials.
Commissioner Staunton app ed the Commission that he atte ed a meeting with
City Staff on the idea of develop g work plans for each boar or commission.
Staunton said he believes someti between now and th all when the Commission
and City Council hold their annual rk session the Co mission and planning staff
need to "get together" to discuss deve ing a "work an" for the Commission.
Commissioner Fischer said he attended a t nsp
France Avenue corridor. The meeting touche or
consultants are looking at the early start of an
said this corridor needs guidance and a A ion. Tl
not look like the France Avenue of tod . Fischer
bikes along this corridor.
Chair Grabiel asked the Cc
property located at 54271
some concerns about rear
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Planner Teague
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France Avenue of the future will
3aN it's not unrealistic to envision
�pfon to refer to a Memo fr6T Kris Aaker on a
crest. Grabiel said it appears he City Council had
access, fill and retaining walls.
:aunto asked if the retaining wall in question was permitted use.
,esp holed in the affirmative. Expanding on his com ent Teague
y ouncil expressed concern over retaining walls, fill d access.
uestion is should we regulate access. Continuing, Teague explained
to grading, fill, etc. that the City's engineering reviews all plans to
drainage. Teague said full review is also required if a retaining wall
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Date: June 14, 2012
To: Planning Commission/ Cary Teague, Community Development Director
From: Kris Aaker Assistant Planner
Re: 5427 Woodcrest
At the request of the Planning Commission, city staff has reviewed the
construction plans for the above mentioned property at 5427 Woodcrest. A new
home permit was issued March 1, 2012, for a one story walk -out with an
attached two car garage. The home looks like a 1 % story, however, the
windows in the roof are vaulted from the first floor or are false dormers. The
property slopes downward from west to east and from south towards
Minnehaha Creek.
The existing first floor elevation of the old house was at 887.0. The new first
floor elevation is 887.30, (less than one foot above the old first floor). The over-
all height of the home as measured from average existing grade along the new
front building wall is 26.5 feet, (includes a I foot increase due to fill above
existing grade). Maximum height allowed is 35 feet to roof ridge. The property
sloped downward from front to the back of the home along the east side yard
next to the neighbor. The proposed sutvey and retaining wall plans show a
leveling of the east side and rear yard creating a walkway along the side of the
house to a patio area in the back yard over -looking the creek. It looks like the
goal was to level off the slope to access the back yard and flatten out area for a
more usable back yard and patio. The grading and drainage plans were
reviewed and approved by the Building and Engineering Departments.
The neighbor is correct in that there are no setbacks required for retaining walls.
The retaining walls are adjacent/right up against the side lot linea Conditions and
grades have changed on the property, however, within the allowable limits.
Attached are a photo of the old home, house elevations, survey/site plans and
retaining wall plan.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
! ® MEMO
Engineering Department •Phone 952-826-0371 ,
Fax 952-826-0392 • www.CityofEdina.com
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Date: July 6, 2012
To: Cary Teague — Community Development Director
From: Wayne Houle, PE — Director of Engineering
Re: Single Family Home Site Reviews by Engineering Department
The engineering department currently reviews site plans for single family home reconstruction projects. The
engineering department reviews the following:
Survey elements such as proper lot survey, drawing scale; and other required elevations.
• Proper drainage and erosion control. Drainage plans are reviewed such that surface water maintains
or reduces the same direction of flow. Surface water cannot be redirected onto an adjoining private
property. Staff also analyzes if known conditions exist and if these can be corrected easily, such as
putting a downspout into an underground system and connects to a public sump drain system if .
available.
• designed by a structural engineer due to the height.
Verify if a retaining wall needs to be
Checks for easement encroachments — most easements are noted on the City mapping system.
However, Hennepin County is the agency that is responsible for recording and maintaining records
of all easements.
• Check for new curb cuts (number of driveways and location) to conform with City Code.
• Verify the sanitary sewer service invert elevation compared to the proposed elevation of the new
home (lower level — so home can drain by gravity).
Let me know if you need more information on what we look at during a typical review.
Engineering Department • 7450 Metro Blvd • Edina, MN 55439
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City Hall - Phone 952-927-8861 �g1A4;>\r�
Fax 952-826-0389 - www.CityofEdina.corn e
Date: July 11, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Grading on 50 -foot lots
Based on the concern raised by the resident on 54`h and Woodcrest, and by
Councilmember Bennett in regard to grading for the new home built at 4213 Morningside;
Wayne Houle, director of engineering will attend the Planning Commission meeting on July
I Vh to discuss this issue. (See the attached memo from director Houle.)
When our engineering department reviews grading plans, they ensure that surface water
maintains or reduces the same direction of flow. Surface water cannot be redirected onto
adjacent property.
The Planning Commission is asked to consider and discuss whether or not the City should
further regulate grading and drainage on property. Additionally, consider requiring access
from front yards to rear yards, which was the problem at 4213 Morningside. In general
single-family home lots in Edina can access rear yards from the front, however, there are
instances when a lot has been graded or landscaped to prevent outdoor access.
For background, attached is the information that was presented to the Planning
Commission, at your last meeting.
City of Edina - 4801 W. 50th St. - Edina, MN 55424
have to worry about children in our driveway because they certainly will not
think twice about using the convenient route beside their house rather than
walking back through their house. How will they get a lawn mower from their
garage in front to their backyard? They are now landscaping and of course
they are using our driveway.
Please check with the city to find a solution to the problem they helped
create. Our driveway is not public property.
I thank you for all your help in the past and look forward to hearing from
you.
Thank You,
Janet Ingram
4215 Morningside Road
Edina, MN 55416
Work email: iringram@enp-unl.com
Home email: jsingrani@comcast.net
Cell phone: 952-686-1225
Cary Teague
From: Joni Bennett <jonibennett12@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:49 PM
To: Scott Neal
Cc: Cary Teague
Subject: Fwd: teardown/rebuild - new owners accessing their backyard via neighbors' driveway
Hello, Scott -
I would appreciate very much any information that can help this homeowner. See you about 3:30 -
Joni
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Janet Ingram" <iringram(cDengunl.com>
Date: June 14, 2012 7:52:22 AM CDT
To: ast.net>
Subject: Edina City Council
Good Morning Joni,
I live at 4215 Morningside Rd. and spoke with you last year about my
concerns with the house being built at 4213 Morningside. We thought it was
too big for the lot and asked you to check on it. You spent a lot of time
with me on the phone and checking with the city planner and emailed me the
results. In the end, it was decided that the house met the criteria and it
went ahead as planned.
Now the house is finished and they are just about done with the retaining
walls. As far as I can see, there is no access to their backyard without
going through their house or using our driveway. We allowed them to use our
driveway during construction because there was obviously no way to get a
bobcat in and we wanted to be good neighbors. The previous owner's access
was on the other side of the house. However, the current owners chose to
build as close as possible to that property line, then, yesterday built a
wall blocking access there. It never occurred to us that they would expect
us to share our driveway as permanent access to their backyard. This is
unacceptable.
Once again, I think that Moniingside's 50 foot wide lots were never meant
for these large houses. Where is the cities responsibility here? They
apparently gave the go ahead and certainly did not ask us if we were willing
to share our property so the people at 4213 Morningside could have a house
too big for the lot they purchased. We are not! 1!
Their children are very young now, but I am sure that in the fiiture we will
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To: Planning Commission/ Cary Teague, Community Development Director
From: Kris Aaker Assistant Planner
Re: 5427 Woodcrest
At the request of the Planning Commission, city staff has reviewed the
construction plans for the above mentioned property at 5427 Woodcrest. A new
home permit was issued March 1, 2012, for a one story walk -out with an
attached two car garage. The home looks like a 1 'h story, however, the
windows in the roof are vaulted from the first floor or are false dormers. The
property slopes downward from west to east and from south towards
Minnehaha Creek.
The existing first floor elevation of the old house was at 887.0. The new first
floor elevation is 887.30, (less than one foot above the old first floor). The over-
all height of the home as measured from average existing grade along the new
front building wall is 26.5 feet, (includes a I foot increase due to fill above
existing grade). Maximum height allowed is 35 feet to roof ridge. The property
sloped downward from front to the back of the home along the east side yard
next to the neighbor. The proposed survey and retaining wall plans show a
leveling of the east side and rear yard creating a walkway along the side of the
house to a patio area in the back yard over -looking the creek. It looks like the
goal was to level off the slope to access the back yard and flatten out area for a
more usable back yard and patio. The grading and drainage plans were
reviewed and approved by the Building and Engineering Departments.
The neighbor is correct in that there are no setbacks required for retaining walls.
The retaining walls are adjacent/right up against the side lot line. Conditions and
grades have changed on the property, however, within the allowable limits.
Attached are a photo of the old home, house elevations, survey/site plans and
retaining wall plan.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. • Edina, MN 55424
Engineering Department - Phone 952-826-0371
Fax 952-826-0392 • www.CityofEdina.com
Date: July 6, 2012
To: Cary Teague — Community Development Director
From: Wayne Houle, PE — Director of Engineering
Re: Single Family Home Site Reviews by Engineering Department
The engineering department currently reviews site plans for single family home reconstruction projects. The
engineering department reviews the following:
• Survey elements such as proper lot survey, drawing scale, and other required elevations.
• Proper drainage and erosion control. Drainage plans are reviewed such that surface water maintains
or reduces the same direction of flow. Surface water cannot be redirected onto an adjoining private
property. Staff also analyzes if known conditions exist and if these can be corrected easily, such as
putting a downspout into an underground system and connects to a public sump drain system if
available.
• Verify if a retaining wall needs to be designed by a structural engineer due to the height.
• Checks for easement encroachments — most easements are noted on the City mapping system.
However, Hennepin County is the agency that is responsible for recording and maintaining records
of all easements.
• Check for new curb cuts (number of driveways and location) to conform with City Code.
• Verify the sanitary sewer service invert elevation compared to the proposed elevation of the new
home (lower level — so home can drain by gravity).
Let me know if you need more information on what we look at during a typical review.
Engineering Department • 7450 Metro Blvd • Edina, MN 55439
Date: July 11, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Grading on 50 -foot lots
Based on the concern raised by the resident on 54`'' and Woodcrest, and by
Councilmember Bennett in regard to grading for the new home built at 4213 Morningside;
Wayne Houle, director of engineering will attend the Planning Commission meeting on July
I I`h to discuss this issue. (See the attached memo from director Houle.)
When our engineering department reviews grading plans, they ensure that surface water
maintains or reduces the same direction of flow. Surface water cannot be redirected onto
adjacent property.
The Planning Commission is asked to consider and discuss whether or not the City should
further regulate grading and drainage on property. Additionally, consider requiring access
from front yards to rear yards, which was the problem at 4213 Morningside. In general
single-family horne lots in Edina can access rear yards from the front, however, there are
instances when a lot has been graded or landscaped to prevent outdoor access.
For background, attached is the information that was presented to the Planning
Commission at your last meeting.
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WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2012.
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Existing text — XXXX
Stricken text —XXYM
Added text — XXXX
3. All other buildings and structures 3 stories or 40 feet
whichever is less
4. The maximum height to the highest point on a roof of a
single or double dwelling unit shall be 35 feet. The
maximum height may be increased by one inch for each
foot that the lot exceeds 75 feet in width. In no event shall
the maximum height exceed 40 feet.
Section 3. Subsection 850.12. Subd. 5.C.is hereby amended as follows:
C. Height: 2-1/2 stories er-3O-fee#,-whishever4s,-Iess Th
maximum height to the highest point on a roof of singleor
double dwelling unit shallbe $5 feet. The maximum height may
be increased by one inch for each foot that the lot exceeds 75
feet in width. In no event shall the maximum, height exceed 40
feet.
Section 4. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by the
Existing text — XXXX 2
Stricken text —X.
Added text —XXXX
Draft 7-2-2012
ORDINANCE NO. 2012 -.—
AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING MAXIMUM HEIGHT
REQUIREMENTS IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 7.A.3. is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 7. Special Requirements. In addition to the general
requirements described in Subsection 850.07, the following
special requirements shall apply.
3. Interior Side Yard Setback The required interior side yard
setback for all structures with a ridge height exceeding 80 feet
shall be increased by 6 inches for each foot the building height
exceeds 15 feet.
For purposes of this subparagraph, building height shall be the
height of that side of the building adjoining the side lot line and
shall be measured from the average proposed elevation of the
ground along and on the side of the building adjoining the side
lot line to the top of the cornice of a flat roof, to the deck line of
a Mansard roof, to a point on the roof directly above the highest
wall of a shed roof, to the uppermost point on a round or other
arch type roof, to the average distance of the highest gable on
a pitched roof, or to the top of a cornice of a hip roof.
Section 2. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 6.C.is hereby amended as follows:
C. Height
1. Single dwelling unit buildings and 2 % stories B eet
structures accessory thereto. whic-heveFi&4e
2. Buildings and structures 1 '/z stories or 18 feet
accessory to single dwelling unit whichever is less
buildings, but not attached
thereto.
Existing text — XXXX
Stricken text—XIX
Added text —XXXX
Date: July 11, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Building Height
As we briefly discussed at our last Planning Commission meeting, some concern has been
raised to the City Council in regard to the setback requirements of the second story of
single-family homes being built on narrow lots. Request has been made to relax this
standard if the ridge line height of the home is below the maximum height requirement.
Therefore, if the overall height of the home is reduced, extra area on the second story
could be added toward the side lot line.
Attached is a draft ordinance that would exempt the second story setback requirement if
the ridge line of a house is reduced to 30 feet. The current maximum height to the ridge
line is 35-40 feet. The required structure setback on the ground would not be impacted by
the proposed ordinance.
Builders have indicated to staff that this provision would create more creativity for building
design. The attached homes have been cited as examples that could have benefited from the
suggested Ordinance amendment. The examples include a home built to the 35 -foot ridge line
maximum, and a home built to the 30 -foot ridge line. These homes are located in the 5900 block
of Fairfax. When driving down this block, the horne with the 35 -foot ridge -line appears much
taller than all others in the neighborhood. The home at 30 feet seems to fit in better with the
older- homes. The proposed Ordinance would intent builders to reduce the ridge line in order to
achieve more square footage on the second story.
Additionally, because we now regulate height to the ridge line, staff is recommending that
we eliminate the requirement for a maximum height to the midpoint of pitched roof.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50En St. • Edina, MN 55424
From: Cary Teague Lmailto:cteague0EdinaMN.gov1
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:00 AM
To: 'Scott Busyn'
Cc: Kris Aaker
Subject: Ordinance amendment regarding maximum height requirements in the R-1 Zoning District
Hi Scott,
Attached is a potential ordinance amendment to deal with the height requirements that we discussed"a couple weeks
ago. I brought the idea up with the Planning Commission at our last meeting, and they seemed to be ok with the
concept.
The Ordinance would simply exempt homes with a ridge height of no more than 30 from the increase in side yard
setback if the structure is taller than 15 feet.
We are also suggesting the elimination of the mid -point height requirement since we are regulating height to the ridge
line now for single-family homes.
Please let me know if you have any thoughts, comments or suggestions.
Thanksl
Cary
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Scott,
Cary wanted me to contact builders to get their opinions on discussion that occurred at the last Planning Commission
meeting. The question that came up was: What is the impact on rebuilding on a narrow lot if the height/setback rules
remain the same and side wall height is now measured from the average existing grade along the new side building wall,
instead of average proposed grade. Your comments would be appreciated. The Planning Commission will be discussing
possible ordinance changes at a work session after their July 25, 2012 Planning Commission meeting.
Thanks,
Kris
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From: Scott Busyn jmailto:scottbusynC@comcast.netl
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:20 AM
To: Cary Teague
Cc: Kris Aaker
Subject: RE: Ordinance amendment regarding maximum height requirements in the R-1 Zoning District
Hi Cary,
I took a look at how this ordinance change would impact any of the houses we have built recently. Since the 15' side yard
height was measured to the midpoint of the gable, the side yard ridge heights are already higher than 15' in most cases.
Therefore, on a house lower than 30', removing the side yard requirement won't impact the look too much other than
allowing a more classic side yard ridge that you would find on 1940's capes and colonials. For example, we could
eliminate the clipped roofs on the following house we are building at 5337 Oaklawn:
The payback on this amendment would be that you would promote building houses below 30'. 1 also like removing the
midpoint height measurement as well.
Thanks for working on this. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Scott Busyn
Great Neighborhood Homes, Inc..
4615 Wooddale Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
Ph: 952-807-8765
Fx: 952-926-1168
www.greatneighborhoodhomes.com
Kris Aaker
From: Scott Busyn <scottbusyn@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:20 AM
To: Kris Aaker
Cc: 'Margaret'
Subject: RE: Ordinance amendment regarding maximum height requirements in the R-1 Zoning
District
Hi Kris:
Most lots in Edina have some type of existing grade drop off from front to back. Urban, grid -layout neighborhoods such as
Country Club, South Harriet Park, Morningside, etc will have small grade dropoffs of 2-5'. Neighborhoods with more
natural, varied topography and street layouts with homes built on hills, abutting creeks, lakes, or wetlands will have more
dramatic grade drop offs from front to back. In all cases, the grade drop off is there for drainage of the property to the
adjacent low grades and subsequent larger drainage areas whether it's a swale at the rear lot line, a creek, storm drain, or
lakelcreek. There really are very few "flat" lots. Therefore, this ordinance change would impact almost every lot in Edina.
The impacts to building if the sideyard heights were measured from existing grade would be:
1. New homes or additions to new homes would have to be staggered down as the grade dropped going back. The
main level, lower level, and upper level would all need to add step down or stairs down inside the home. We have
designed sunken living rooms and lower level media rooms, but I would have tough time selling sunken master
bedrooms. Many of the new homes we are building along the creek are for aging empty nesters. I feel these step
down designs would be a safety hazard for this aging demographic. I
2. New homes or additions would have to narrow as they went back to meet the sideyard height requirement. This
would create a telescope type design (wide in the front, narrow in the back). This type of zoning is in direct conflict
with today's home trend towards wide and open floor plans in the rear of the home. Almost every new home or
addition we build today has an open kitchen/great room design in the rear of the home which requires a wider
building footprint in the rear of the home.
3. The combination of these two, issues would make any lot that had a lookout or walkout type grade unbuildable or
unsuitable for an addition. I also think it would unfairly impact lots with small grade drop offs as well.
I feel Edina's current set of zoning rules are working well overall. As a builder, the current rules encourage builders to
design homes that maintain the streetscape of Edina's neighborhoods. I understand the Planning Commission is hearing
complaints about retaining walls being built. It sounds like these complaints are due to a new retaining wall being built that
prevents the homeowner from getting into their backyard without going on a neighbors property. I would rather see this
issue dealt with by requiring a minimum 36" access to the backyard on at least one side of the property. This is a simple
fix that will allow the homeowners to design a solution without the City getting into the design business.
I appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback on this issue. Please let me know if can be of additional assistance.
Thanks,
Scott Busyn
Great Neighborhood Homes, Inc.
4615 Wooddale Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
Ph: 952-807-8765
Fx: 952-926-1168
www.greatneighborhoodhomes.co
From: Kris Aaker [mailto:KAaker@EdinaMN.gov]����
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:22 AM
To: 'Scott Busyn'
Subject: RE: Ordinance amendment regarding maximum height requirements in the R-1 Zoning District
rNi"M
Attached is an example of a home plan proposed for an existing walk -out lot. The existing home is
a 1 '/Z story walk -out at minimum side yard setbacks. Given that this lot is a walk -out, it's doubtful
that the existing home is conforming regarding side yard setback based on side wall height. The
new home is larger and will extend farther into the rear yard and with the walk -out, wall height
becomes 2'/2 stories. In order to address the height, retaining walls are proposed, however, the
height will still require 7.5 foot side yard setbacks from each side lot line for a maximum 2nd floor
house width of 35 feet on a 50 foot wide lot. Maintaining the existing grade, or measuring height
from existing grade would require side yard setbacks of 9.5 feet providing for a second floor width
of 31 feet. In this instance and in other instances like this, the question becomes: Is it more
imposing on the neighboring property to have retaining walls next door,(walls that can be up to the
lot lines), or is it more imposing to allow the full exposed wall height along the side yard with more
natural grade changes?
The zoning ordinance does not require a setback for retaining walls, which allows for egress
window wells in side yards for homes that are at the minimum 5 foot side yard setback and also
allows for walls, steps, etc. around narrow side yards. Grade can be altered for new home
construction or it can be altered, (with a permit if required), at any time on a homeowner's property.
Retaining walls are often times put in place as part of a landscaping project to level off a yard area,
sometimes for a pool, sport court, patio, etc., projects that may or may not relate to new home
construction. While retaining walls have been used to bring down the height measured for setback
purposes, they are also implemented on properties for a variety of other reasons and can be
necessary to be located up against a lot line. Many properties with grade changes, especially those
backing up to creeks and water bodies currently have retaining walls along narrow side yards. It
may be suggested that the Planning Commission consider requirements that an "access way" from
a front to back yard be delineated on a new home site plan so that grade alterations won't prohibit
access along a side yard.
Staff has requested opinions from builders that are familiar with Edina's ordinances regarding
these matters. Attached are comments received so far from local builders contacted relating to
sidewall height/setback, grading and retaining walls that were received.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h st. • Edina, MN 55424
City Hall • Phone 952-927-8861
Fax 952-826-0389 • www.CityofEdinaxom
Date: July 25, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Kris Aaker, Assistant Planner
Re: Building wall heights/grading
MEMO
At the request of Planning Commission city staff has reviewed side yard setback based on side
wall height and grade measurements and. how potential changes to measurements affect setback
and building opportunity. The issue mostly relates to narrow lots of 50-60 feet in width, however,
can affect wider lots as well.
Currently side wall height is measured from average proposed grade along the new side wall. This
allows opportunity for grade alteration along side yards given the new house plans. Typically if a
new home is replacing an older home, the new home is larger in width and depth. If there are
grade changes, if the lot slopes down towards the back yard, or if it is an existing walk -out, grade
affects how a 1 Y2- 2 story structure can fit on a lot. In general the homes that have been rebuilt on
narrower lots are designed to be at the minimum side yard setback so as to maximize building
width. Building width given the added setback required for height above 15 feet becomes a
challenge on narrow lots. The base side yard setback may be 5 feet, however, depending upon the
design of the second floor and grade along the side wall, the width of a second floor may be in the
range of 30-35 feet. Designers/builders have indicated that the narrowing of the second floor is
complicated by area that's required for stair access to the second floor and needed hallway width.
A solution to some of the height/side yard setback challenges in maximizing second floor width has
been to alter the existing grade along the side yard to bring down the height measurement and
reduce the required setback. It usually doesn't prevent the need to "tuck -in" the second floor -
because side wall height in most cases, even with retaining walls to flatten grade, will exceed 15
feet and will require some added setback, (but perhaps just not as much if no retaining walls are
put in place). Side wall height issues become magnified if the property is an existing walk -out with
the full basement exposed. In some instances, the only way to rebuild on a narrow walk -out lot and
replace the existing house with a two story home is to flatten the grade along the side wall;
otherwise the required setback for a second floor is unworkable.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. • Edina, MN 55424
had first hand experiences with these issues. We should be reaching out directly to them and asking them to
help us figure out the right answers.
Thanks for considering my suggestions. Sorry I can't be there tonight.
kevin
Jackie Hoogenalcker
From: Kevin Staunton <kevin@stauntonlaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:26 PM
To: Cary Teague; Grabiel, Floyd
Cc: Jackie Hoogenakker
Subject: Zoning Ordinance Amendments
can't attend tonight's meeting but wanted to pass along a couple of thoughts on the issues on our work session
agenda. Please pass this along to the rest of the Commission.
1. Subdivision of Lots of less the 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. First, I think we are mis-labeling
this item. I don't think we are contemplating subdivisions of lots less than 75 feet wide but are, instead,
contemplating permitting subdivisions that would result in lots less than 75 feet wide (and presumably result in
lots less than 9,000 square feet in area). Assuming my understanding is correct, we should make that clear. We
may also want to consider setting minimum width and area thresholds so that there could not be subdivision of
lots smaller than certain dimensions (I certainly don't think we want to create lots narrower than 40-50 feet in
any area). I also think we need additional thinking on the criteria we use to determine whether the proposed
structures on such lots are "compatible and complimentary" with the neighborhood (more on that in the
process section below). Finally, I am uncomfortable with promulgating those criteria in a policy; I think they
ought to be part of the ordinance so that people can easily find them when contemplating such proposals.
2. Building Wall Heights/Grading. I think we need to think about the problem we are trying to solve before we
solve it. Having watched a number of rebuilds on small lots come before us (and hear about a number that
don't have to), it does not seem to me that the problem is a lack of mass. To the contrary, we are constantly
hearing about too much house on too small a lot. In that context, it seems to me that we ought to — at a
minimum — proceed with caution when contemplating ordinance changes that will permit greater mass (albeit
In exchange for reduced height). in addition, the proposed ordinance change does nothing to address two other
problems we are hearing about — drainage and retaining walls. Rather than take a piecemeal approach to the
code on these issues, I'd like to see us be comprehensive. On retaining walls, there are a number of things we
could consider — adopting a fence -type "good side/bad side" rule that would require the property owner
creating the retaining wall situation to have the "bad" side (i.e., the side with the shear face) facing their
property. In the example we heard about at our last meeting, that would have required the builder to dig down
on the other side of the property rather than build up on the side he did. We could also consider retaining wall
setbacks after so many feet of height or some kind of average grade requirement. On drainage, it seems
unacceptable to me that a builder has no restrictions on the amount he may increase the rate of runoff
associated with a new house so long as the runoff follows the same path it did before construction. Why can't
we require the builder to engineer solutions (such as downspouts to underground stormwater pipes that go
directly to the city's stormwater system) that don't make the neighbor suffer the consequences of the new
construction. On both of these issues, I am sure there are other good ideas that could address the problems
while still permitting reasonable redevelopment of residential properties.
i. Process. The more I think about these issues, the more I understand how much I don't know. To date, we have
dealt with this dynamic by staff visiting with some selected local developers to get their suggestions about how
to proceed. I'm fine with that being part of our information gathering process (although I'd like to hear from
them directly, too) but think we're missing some other experts. People who live in the neighborhoods that have
had these issues also know a lot about the how the problems develop and, I'm betting, will have some good
ideas about potential solutions. I think we should be working to reach out to folks like those before we go to a
public hearing (we have, after all, done such outreach with the developers). Such an effort would give us some
suggestions to consider on the PUD issues (what is it that makes a new structure "compatible" with a
neighborhood?) as well as the mass, scale, drainage, and retaining wall issues. I think it is critical, though, that
we do more than merely put out a blanket notice that we want to hear from people. We know people who have
Planner Teague added that for every change to the ordinance there are consequences.
Subdivision of lois less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 -feet in width
Planner Teague rem i70..the Commissioner they directed staff to draft an dinance
amendment that woul llow PUD rezoning as a tool to subdivide lots tha are less than
9,000 square feet in areand 75 feet in width. Continuing, Teague said, iat recently the
City Council has expresse interest in considering a uniform mediaot area, lot width and
depth as the minimum lot' e requirement in the R-1 district. If es blished the median of
all lots within 500 -feet beco es the minimum lot size requiremeWt. This approach is what
is currently done.
Commissioner Platteter said the ast time this was dist did appear that PUD "may
be the way to go" but now withou specific guidelines the 00 -foot neighborhood approach
the City has been utilizing may be BVst and fairest.
Commissioner Carpenter agreed. He ointed out if UD would be developed for
residential subdivisions of smaller lots a foresee esidents applying for "a lot of PUD's".
Carpenter said as previously mentionedby Com issioner Platteter that specific guidelines
would need to be established for lots uIr 75 eet in width or else there would be no
regulator. Carpenter stated in his opinion�h 500 -foot rule has value. It's across the
board. ft
Commissioner Staunton commented if s me fol•rr
allowing a PUD in an R-1 zoning distri adding�l
because it establishes guidelines. St niton sugge
uncomfortable with the present su division code
neighborhood maybe in the smal r lots neighbo►
of guidelines need to be developed for
present "500 -foot rule" may be best
;ted that if the Commission was
sing the 500 -foot standard to establish
ibods the radius could be lessened.
A discussion ensued wi/apoach
issioners agreeing tl\athey should proceed with caution in
developing a PUD for Rat require variances.was also noted there needs to be
fairness with the City's to this topic. Itwasgested that a simple way to
approach this on the Pmaybe "what's in it fle City". It was acknowledged that
could be considered su
Planner Teague sug sted that the Commission could dev op a low density PUD or
something to the e ect of subdivision requiring variances. hat could be done in ordinance
form. Conti nuin eague added that a number of City's hav policies; not ordinances that
regulate neighb hood character, etc. Teague told the Commission he would draft
something refl cting those sentiments.
The discussn continued with Commissioners requesting that Planner Teague do an
informal s(irvey of how other City's deal with subdivisions of non -conforming lots.
Commissioners suggested that staff first tackle this from a policy position not ordinance.
Page 8 of 11
Planner Teague responded that is an idea; however, lie expressed concern that running the
calculations from averaging the existing grade may prohibit two story homes.
Commissioners indicated if this were problematic in certain instances a variance could be
requested. Planner Teague suggested that staff run different scenario's on measuring from
the existing grade and bring those findings back to the Commission for comments.
Commissioners agreed and directed staff to "run" scenario's and return with them:
Furthering the discussion Commissioner Potts questioned if the City has a code requiring
outside access to the rear yard. Planner Teague responded that he doesn't believe there is
an ordinance requiring rear yard access from outside the house. Engineer Houle agreed.
He said there are a number of homes in Edina that access the rear yard through the house,
even on flat lots.
A discussion ensued on if the City should require outside rear yard access. It was observed
that the City requires minimum side yard setbacks; however, retaining walls and egress .
windows could prevent easy access to rear yards. Staff noted that many of these issues are
between neighbors. It was further explained that when construction erosion control fences
are erected and if there is trespass; again that's between neighbors.
Commissioner Potts says he worries that most of the discussion occurs between the City
and builder, not the homeowner. He wondered if communication should be "opened up"
between the City and homeowner. Engineer Houle pointed out that a number of new
homes "do not have an owner", adding in his experience there will always be common lot
line issues.
Planner Teague said one tool City staff is working on is a Construction Management Guide
Plan. Teague said at this time City Staff is reviewing implementing a plan for monitoring
compliance during the construction phase. One requirement is posting a sign on the site
informing neighbors of what would occur. The City could also add a line item referring
neighbors to City Hall if they want to view the complete set of building plans.
Chair Grabiel suggested that if the Commission establishes a different way to regulate
building height there would probably be those odd lots that would need a variance to
comply. Commissioner Staunton agreed, adding topography is a classic hardship for
granting a variance. Planner Teague noted that the variance process would also engage the
neighbors.
Planner Teague clarified the following for future topics of discussion:
Draft different scenario's measuring building height that would eliminate the need
for retaining walls alongside property lines. (measure from existing grade, not
proposed as required)
Consider establishing setbacks for retaining walls
Discuss requiring access to the rear yard from the outside of the house. Maybe
require offsetting side yard setbacks.
Page 7 of 11
spring run-off. Houle acknowledged that creating a larger building mass also contributes to
an increase in water run-off; however, he reiterated storm water run-off on residential lots
is something that is extremely difficult to monitor or control, adding this has been an
ongoing issue. Continuing, Houle pointed out that measures can be implemented to
mitigate storm water run-off impact such as lot coverage requirements, placement of
gutters/downspouts, use of pervious materials for driveways and sidewalks, rain barrels
etc. Concluding, Houle stated if a house meets all code requirements a building permit is
issued.
A discussion ensued on the question of notification responsibility, is it the responsibility of
the applicant, the City, or the neighbor(s) when new construction occurs. It was also noted
that building plans are available for viewing at City Hall.
In response to the discussion Engineer Houle said lie wasn't aware of any storm water
management control measures for single family lots. He noted the City and Watershed
Districts require grading permits and erosion control measures; however they don't review
surface water management for single family lots. Both Nine Mile and Minnehaha
watershed districts only require storm water management measures to be implemented
for commercial properties.
Commissioner Carpenter questioned how difficult it would be to monitor or regulate this.
Engineer Houle said in his opinion it would be very difficult. Houle reiterated to mitigate
water run-off issues different measures can be implemented.
Commissioner Scherer asked if there was a review process for retaining walls. Engineer
Houle responded if retaining walls are indicated on a survey it is reviewed. If a retaining
wall is higher than 4 -feet the retaining wall is required to be designed by a structural
engineer and reviewed by engineering staff. Continuing, Houle said another reason for an
increase in retaining walls could be to accommodate basement ceiling height. Houle
explained if a property owner wants higher ceilings they need to dig deeper.
Planner Teague informed the Commission he has been in discussions with area builders
that told him that the City's current way to determine the side yard setback for building
height results in builders building up the grade and potentially constructing retaining walls
to achieve desired building height. Teague referred Commissioners to a handout placed
before them amending the way side yard setbacks are determined. Teague said this change
would require the builder to use the existing grade and not the "proposed" grade to
determine building height. Teague asked Commissioners for their opinion on the handout.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners indicating that manipulating the grade along the
side to achieve building height as currently done may be the reason retaining walls are
popping up all over the City. Commissioners indicated it may just be easier to either
include the retaining wall(s) in the calculation or measure from the existing grade, not
proposed.
Page 6 of 11
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Planner Teague informed the Commission there has been discussion throughout the City
on grading that's been occurring on City lots; especially for new construction. Teague said
City Engineer Wayne Houle is present to explain the process the Engineering Department
follows when reviewing building permit applications.
Engineer Houle addressed the Commission and informed them the Engineering
Department reviews all building permit applications for grading. Houle explained that
every applicant is required to submit a detailed survey, drawn to scale with other required
elevations. Houle explained a typical review of the application contains the following to
ensure proper drainage and erosion control:
• Surface water maintains or reduces the same direction of flow ensuring that surface
water cannot be redirected onto an adjoining private property.
• Analyze the known conditions and if these conditions can be easily remedied (if
appropriate).
• Verify if a retaining wall needs to be designed by a structural engineer due to the
height of the retaining wall.
• Check for easement encroachments.
• Check for new curb cuts.
• Check number and location of driveways
• Verify the sanitary sewer service invert elevations.
Engineer Houle presented copies of surveys to help Commissioners see all the details found
on a survey to aid in plan review.
Commissioner Platteter asked Engineer Houle if downspouts are indicated on the survey or
are they indicated somewhere else. Engineer Houle responded that downspouts and the
direction of their flow are not required to be indicated on fine survey; however that review
(if applicable) occurs at the building department level. Platteter also questioned if
neighbors are notified when a remodeling or rebuilding occurs. Houle said there is no
notification requirement (except for the applicant) unless a variance was required.
Platteter questioned if there should be notification pointing out everyone appears to be
building a larger house than what previously existed; thereby creating more water run-off.
Houle agreed, adding in Edina that appears to be the case on every lot, pointing out the
majority of new construction is to the maximum.
Commissioner Staunton commented if he understands the permit process for new
construction correctly that "new" water flow pathways can't be created that didn't exist
before. Engineer Houle responded in the affirmative. Commissioner Staunton asked if the
water continues to flow along its natural path can the rate or volume of the flow be
increased. Engineer Houle acknowledged that the rate of flow does increase; adding it's
very difficult to control and monitor. Houle reiterated run-off is required to continue to
follow its natural path, adding rates fluctuate depending on the "size" of the rain storm and
Page 5 of 11
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Date: September 4, 2012
To: Honorable Mayor and City Council
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Building Height/Grading
Over the past several months the Planning Commission has been considering the issue of
site grading and regulations on building height. Attached are minutes, staff memos and a
draft Ordinance from those discussions.
The Planning Commission would like to create some regulations on site grading; but we
need to know the specifics on what we can regulate. The city engineer will provide some
guidance with this issue. In regard to building height, the Commission was close to
recommending the attached Ordinance, but are somewhat reluctant to recommend and
Ordinance that potentially could allow greater building mass in the R- I District.
The Planning Commission would like to have a discussion with the City Council in regard
to these issues.
City of Edina - 4801 W. 50th St. - Edina, MN 55424
City of Edina
Land Use, Platting and Zoning 850.11
1. Established Front Street Setback. When more than 25 percent of the lots on one
side of a street between street intersections, on one side of a street that ends in a
cul-de-sac, or on one side of a dead end street, are occupied by dwelling units, the
front street setback for any lot shall be determined as follows:
a. If there is an existing dwelling unit on an abutting lot on only one
side of the lot, the front street setback requirement shall be the same
as the front street setback of the dwelling unit on the abutting lot.
b. If there are existing dwelling units on abutting lots on both sides of
the lot, the front street setback shall be the average of the front street
setbacks of the dwelling units on the two abutting lots.
c. In all other cases, the front street setback shall be the average front
street setback of all dwelling units on the same side of that street.
2. Side Street Setback. The required side street setback shall be increased to that
required for a front street setback where there is an adjoining interior lot facing
on the same street. The required side street setback for a garage shall be increased
to 20 feet if the garage opening faces the side street.
3. Interior Side Yard Setback. The required interior side yard setback shall be
increased by 6 inches for each foot the building height exceeds 15 feet. For
purposes of this subparagraph, building height shall be the height of that side of
the building adjoining the side lot line and shall be measured from the average
proposed elevation of the ground along and on the side of the building adjoining
the side lot line to the top of the cornice of a flat roof, to the deck line of a
Mansard roof, to a point on the roof directly above the highest wall of a shed
roof, to the uppermost point on a round or other arch -type roof, to the average
distance of the highest gable on a pitched roof, or to the top of a cornice of a hip
roof.
4. Rear Yard Setback - Interior Lots. If the rear lot line is less than 30 feet in length
or if the lot forms a point at the rear and there is no rear lot line, then for setback
purposes the rear lot line shall be deemed to be a straight line segment within the
lot not less than 30 feet in length, perpendicular to a line drawn from the midpoint
of the front lot line to the junction of the interior lot lines, and at the maximum
distance from the front lot line.
Rear Yard Setback - Corner Lots Required to Maintain Two Front Street
Setbacks. The owner of a corner lot required to maintain two front street setbacks
may designate any interior lot line measuring 30 feet or more in length as the rear
lot line for setback purposes. In the alternative, the owner of a corner lot required
to maintain two front street setbacks may deem the rear lot line to be a straight
line segment within the lot not less than 30 feet in length, perpendicular to a line
drawn from the junction of the street frontages to the junction of the interior lot
lines, the line segment being the maximum distance from the junction of the
street frontages.
Through Lots. For a through lot, the required setback for all buildings and
structures from the street upon which the single dwelling unit building does not
front shall be not less than 25 feet.
850-63 A t--7 Supplement 2011-01
City of Edina
Land Use, Platting and Zoning 850.11
a. All conditional 50' 50' 50' 50'
use buildings or
structures including
accessory buildings
less than 1,000
square feet; except
parking lots, day
care facilities, pre-
schools and nursery
schools
b. All conditional 95' 95' 95' 95'
use accessory
buildings 1,000
square feet or larger.
c. Driving ranges, 50' 50' 50' 50'
tennis courts,
maintenance
buildings and
swimming pools
accessory to a golf
course.
d. Daycare facilities, 30' 35' 35' 35'
pre-schools and
nursery schools.
** See Subd. 7.A.1. below for required setback when more than 25 percent of
the lots on one side of a street between street intersections, on one street of a
street that ends in a cul-de-sac, or on one side of a dead end street are occupied
by dwelling units
C. Height
I . Single dwelling units buildings and 2 %Z stories or 30 feet
structures accessory thereto. whichever is less,
2. Buildings and structures accessory to 1 '/i stories or 18 feet
single dwelling unit buildings, but not whichever is less
attached thereto.
3. All other buildings and structures 3 stories or 40 feet whichever
is less
4. The maximum height to the highest point on a roof of a single or
double dwelling unit shall be 35 feet. The maximum height may be
increased by one inch for each foot that the lot exceeds 75 feet in
width. In no event shall the maximum height exceed 40 feet.
Subd. 7Special Requirements. In addition to the general requirements described in Subsection
850.07, the following special requirements shall apply.
A. Special Setback Requirements for Single Dwelling Unit Lots.
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City of Edina Land Use, Platting and Zoning 850.11
2. Single dwelling
30'**
15'
The required
25'
unit buildings on
interior yard
lots more than 60
setback of 5 feet
feet in width, but
shall increase by
less than 75 feet in
1/3 foot (4 inches)
width.
for each foot that
the lot width
exceeds 60 feet.'
3. Single dwelling
30'**
15'
5'
25'
unit buildings on 60
feet or less in width.
4. Buildings and structures accessory to single dwelling unit buildings:
a. detached garages,
--
15'
3'
3'
tool sheds,
greenhouses and
garden houses
entirely within the
rear yard, including
the eaves.
b. attached
30'
is,
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25'
garages, tool sheds,
greenhouses and
garden houses.
c. detached garages,
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5'
tool sheds,
greenhouses and
garden houses not
entirely within the
rear yard.
d.unenclosed decks
30'
15'
5'
5'
and patios.
e. swimming pools,
30'
15'
10'
10'
including
appurtenant
equipment and
required decking.
f. tennis courts,
30'
15'
5'
5'
basketball courts,
sports courts,
hockey and skating
rinks, and other
similar recreational
accessory uses
including
appurtenant fencing
and lighting.
g. all other
30'
15'
5'
5'
accessory buildings
and structures.
5. Other Uses:
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C. Minimum Lot Depth.
Single dwelling unit building
Land Use, Platting and Zoning 850.11
75 feet, provided however, if the lot is in a
neighborhood as defined in Section 810 of
this Code, which has lot with a median lot
width greater than 75 feet, then the minimum
lot width shall be not less than the median lot
width of lots in such neighborhood
120 feet, provided, however if the lot is in a
neighborhood as defined in Section 810 of
this Code, which has lots with a median lot
depth greater than 120 feet, then the minimum
lot depth shall be not less than the median lot
depth of lots in such neighborhood.
D. Minimum Lot Width to Perimeter Ratio. Each lot shall have a lot width to perimeter
ratio of not less than 0.1.
Subd. 611equirements for Building Coverage, Setbacks and Height.
A. Building Coverage.
1. Lots 9,000 Square Feet or Greater in Area. Building coverage shall be
not more than 25 percent for all buildings and structures. On lots with an
existing conditional use, if the combined total area occupied by all accessory
buildings and structures, excluding attached garages, is 1,000 square feet or
greater, a conditional use permit is required.
2. Lots Less Than 9,000 Square Feet in Area. Building coverage shall be
not more than 30 percent for all buildings and structures, provided, however,
that the area occupied by all buildings and structures shall not exceed 2,250
square feet.
3. The combined total area occupied by all accessory buildings and
structures, excluding attached garages, shall not exceed 1,000 square feet for
lots used for single dwelling unit buildings.
B. Minimum Setbacks (subject to the requirements of paragraph A. of Subd. 7 of this
Subsection 850.11).
Front Street Side Interior Side Yard Rear
Street Yard
1. Single dwelling 30'** 15' 10' 25'
unit buildings on
Lots 75 feet or more
in width.
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City of Edina
Land Use, Platting and Zoning 850.11
uses shall cease and the building and land shall then be used for only principal uses, and
accessory uses permitted in the zoning district in which the land is situated, or allowed
conditional uses pursuant to the grant of a conditional use permit.
D. Conditional Interim Uses.
I. Only the following interim uses are allowed subject to the grant of a
conditional use permit:
a. administrative offices and meeting rooms for private non-profit
organizations, and counseling services, which, together with the other such
offices and meeting rooms in the same public school building will, in the
aggregate, occupy 35 percent or more of the gross floor area of the
building; and
b. administrative offices and meeting rooms for private non-profit
organizations, and counseling services and schools for teaching music,
arts, dance or business vocations which are open for operations between
6:00 P.M. and 7:00 A.M. on three or more days per week.
2. No conditional use permit shall be issued unless the Council finds that the
hours of operation of the proposed use(s) will be complementary to other uses in
the building or on the property and will not adversely impact the residential
character of surrounding properties.
Subd. 5Requirements for Lot Areas and Dimensions.
A. Minimum Lot Area.
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1. Single Dwelling Unit
2. Elementary School
3. Junior high schools, senior
high schools, seminaries,
monasteries, nunneries, and
community centers
4. Religious institutions
9,000 square feet provided however, if the lot
is in a neighborhood as defined in Section 810
of this Code, which has lots with a median lot
area greater than 9,000 square feet, then the
minimum lot area shall be not less than the
median lot area of the lots in such
neighborhood.
5 acres
10 acres, plus 1 acre for each 150 pupils of
planned maximum enrollment.
3 acres.
5. Day care facilities, pre- 2 acres
schools and nursery schools
B. Minimum Lot Width.
850-59 Supplement 2011-01
■ The width of front -loaded garages is limited so that they occupy no
more than a defined percentage of the front fagade;
■ Driveway width at the curb is limited;
■ Front -loaded garages may be required to meet the same setback as
the rest of the front fagade.
These and similar techniques could be considered as part of a 'conservation
overlay' option within the zoning code.
3. Integration of multi -unit housing into transitional areas. As mentioned
under "Character Districts, Postwar Contemporary Housing," duplexes were
located along many major thoroughfares in Edina as a kind of buffer or transition
to the adjacent single-family housing.
Today this housing type is in need of
updating or replacement in many locations,
and high land and redevelopment costs
create pressure for higher -density housing
types. Townhouse complexes have been
constructed in locations such as north
France Avenue. The challenge is that in
many locations the duplexes are only one lot
deep, which makes it difficult to provide an
adequate transition to single-family scale. The following guidelines broadly
address the issue of integrating multi -unit housing into lower -density, primarily
single-family neighborhood transitional areas.
Single-family characteristics. Attached and
multifamily housing should emulate single-family
housing in its basic architectural elements — pitched
roofs, articulated facades, visible entrances,
porches or balconies. Taller buildings should step
down to provide a height transition to existing
adjacent residential buildings.
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Guidelines: Low- Density Design (Residential)
1. Control the scale and massing of infill housing to make it reasonably
compatible with established residences. Recent zoning changes have
addressed this issue. Future zoning changes should refer to and consider the
Recent zoning changes to address the massing issue:
• Measuring building heights from existing grade,
rather than proposed grade;
• Creation of a sliding scale of setback
requirements based on lot width to increase the
separation between houses on narrow lots;
■ The elimination of bay windows as an exception
into the required setback;
■ The first floor elevation of a new home may not
increase the first floor elevation from the
previous home on the lot by more than one foot.
Character Districts described earlier in this chapter. Other techniques that may
be considered include:
■ a graduated scale, or floor area ratio that relates building size to lot
size;
■ an impervious surface maximum to ensure that a reasonable
percentage of each lot remains as green space, for aesthetics and
stormwater management;
■ design standards that guide the stepping back of building mass and
height from adjacent residential buildings and parks.
2. Building and garage placement. Many neighborhoods and individual blocks
have an established pattern of building placement, spacing, landscape
treatments, front yard setbacks and garage placement that combine to convey a
particular neighborhood character. For example, most garages in the City's older
traditional neighborhoods are detached and located within the rear yard. While
new construction is likely to vary from this pattern, some limits on the degree of
variation may be appropriate in areas such as historic districts. For example, the
following guidelines should be considered:
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visually prominent, signage is designed to be legible at driving speeds,
landscaping remains limited, and connectivity to surrounding uses is
inconvenient or even dangerous for non -driving customers.
Although in some cases, zoning requirements may have guided the
placement of buildings within large expanses of parking, site plans are
often lacking in landscaping and pedestrian amenities that could mitigate
environmental and transportation -related impacts. When buildings are set
within wide expanses of parking, customers and workers are discouraged
from walking to nearby destinations, so travel for short trips is
predominantly by car, further adding to traffic congestion.
Superblocks and Lack of Connectivity. The development of large
parcels as signature planned developments, such as Southdale Shopping
Center, Edinborough and Centennial Lakes, has contributed significantly
to Edina's identity and differentiation from comparable Metro area
communities. However, one consequence of this type of development is
an absence of street connectivity to surrounding neighborhoods and
through the development itself. Instead, vehicular traffic is funneled onto a
few local streets where capacity is often not adequate to meet the need.
For instance, France and York avenues bear a local traffic burden that
could be better accommodated through a more diffuse street network. The
"superblocks" created in the southeast quadrant of the city reshape traffic
patterns and travel modes to discourage non -motorized transportation
within the district and fracture linkages to surrounding residential
neighborhoods.
4.4 GOALS AND POLICIES: FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND
COMMUNITY DESIGN GUIDELINES
Land Use Goals
1. Protect and preserve the essential character of existing residential
neighborhoods.
2. Preserve and maintain housing that serves a range of age groups and
economic situations.
3. Facilitate the development of new housing and recreation facilities that
accommodate the special needs of aging City residents.
4. Encourage infill/redevelopment opportunities that optimize use of city
infrastructure and that complement area, neighborhood, and/or corridor
context and character.
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4.3 TRENDS AND CHALLENGES
The city of Edina, as a "developed" municipality, has a host of land use issues
that it shares with other similarly -designated municipalities, as well as some
challenges that are unique to the community. As the City continues to mature,
redevelopment of existing land uses becomes a priority in order to adapt to
changing conditions and future challenges, and to retain Edina's high degree of
livability and commercial success as a regional retail and office center. Current
land use issues include the following:
■ Redevelopment. The city currently, has very little undeveloped land that
has the potential for development. Therefore, it is redevelopment that will
meet the needs posed by changing demographics and private market
conditions.. Redevelopment projects should dynamically respond to the
rigors of the marketplace, provide excellence in design and offer clear
community benefits. What guidance can the city provide developers
regarding acceptable design elements and project intensity?
■ Development review and approval process. The current zoning and
land development review system provides limited scope and discretion to
adequately address building, site, and community design issues.
■ Transportation choices. How can the land use plan foster transportation
options for residents and workers who desire an alternative to the private
automobile? A transportation network that allows for additional transit and
non -motorized travel options increases the movement capacity of the
existing public right-of-way and capitalizes on resident needs for more
active lifestyles.
■ Teardowns and infill development. High land prices and scarcity of
available land within the city have resulted in a sharp increase in single-
family home redevelopment. New housing is often significantly larger than
existing adjacent housing, particularly in small -lot neighborhoods, and can
appear to visually overwhelm these homes, block views or cast shadows
on them. There has been considerable public discussion about the
appropriate massing, height and proportions of architectural elements in
established neighborhoods. How can the City balance the desire of some
residents for larger homes with state-of-the-art features and developers
seeking to offer housing units that appeal to today's market, with the
interests of neighbors who object to the size and scale of some new
construction?
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Postwar Garden Revival is a term used to
describe one specific district: the Indian Hills
neighborhood and vicinity north of the
Braemar Park golf course in the city's hilly
southwest quadrant. This area is similar to
the earlier Interlachen area in that streets
wind around the steep contours, lots are
large, and a high proportion of trees have
been retained.
Multifamily Concentrations. Multifamily
housing, including townhouse condominium,
and apartment complexes, tends to be
clustered in specific districts or enclaves
close to major thoroughfares and often in
proximity to parks and shopping districts.
Building size, scale, style and materials vary
greatly among these developments.
Landscaping is frequently used to define
entries or as a buffer from adjoining roads or
surrounding development.
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"By the 1950s, the influence of Frank Lloyd
Wrighes prairie style horizontal roofs and
functional "Usonian" houses had filtered
down to the developers' vernacular.... Many
Edina houses of this era are well -crafted with
stone exterior elements, hardwood floors
and plaster walls." Edina Massing Study
Postwar Contemporary housing includes a
more diverse and eclectic mix of
architectural styles, collectively termed
"Pastoral Modern" in the Edina Massing
Study. Homes are oriented with the long axis
parallel to the street (like the earlier rambler
style), and lots tend to be wider than in older
neighborhoods. Garages tend to be attached
and front -loaded. Mature vegetation gives
these neighborhoods a settled character.
Duplexes were located along more heavily -
traveled streets (France Avenue, West 70`h
Street) as a transitional element, apparently in
order to buffer adjacent single-family
housing from traffic while perhaps providing
more affordable housing options.
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Common characteristics: mature trees,
regular building setbacks and massing,
similar historical revival architectural styles
(i.e., American Colonial, English Tudor,
French Colonial). Interconnected and gently
curved street pattern is punctuated by
landscaped triangles and islands at
intersections. The Country Club District has
sidewalks and generous boulevards; the other
areas do not. The Interlachen area is
characterized by larger lots, larger homes and
proportionally more green space.
Postwar Housing makes up the largest
component of the City's housing stock, with
about 85% of all units built after 1950.
Street patterns in postwar neighborhoods
vary widely, from a loosely rectilinear or
contoured grid (one that often predated the
housing) to an almost circular grouping
focused on an internal park (i.e., Brookview
Heights).
Postwar Traditional housing is typified by
the Cape Cod, Rambler, and split-level styles.
Garages, where present, may be detached or
attached but recessed behind the primary
facade. These districts are located primarily
in the northern half of the city. Street
patterns are generally a loosely organized
grid, but become more curvilinear in areas
west of Hanson Road. Sidewalks are
uncommon.
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Garden Suburb
Planned communities designed to provide
high standards of services, amenities and
maintenance for upper-class residents. The
County Club District is a nationally
recognized example of this type, developed
by realtor Samuel Thorpe beginning in 1924
on 300 acres in the old Edina Mills
community. The district was designed by
landscape architects Morell and Nichols with
contoured streets, shade trees, parks and
landscaped open space, north of the Edina
Country Club golf course. Building
restrictions covered all aspects of
architectural style, siting and property
maintenance, as well as racial and ethnic
restrictions.
While the Country Club District is a historic
district with defined boundaries, two nearby
areas share similar characteristics: the
Sunnyslope area west of Minnehaha Creek
and the Interlachen area (Rolling Green and
Hilldale), built adjacent to that country club.
Both areas have larger lots than the Country
Club District but similar street layouts.
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Character Districts
In order to establish principles for community design in the future, it is important
to understand the City's historical development patterns and existing character.
Historical development is discussed in Chapter 6. The manner in which the City
evolved from rural village to streetcar suburb to postwar planned community
allows us to define a series of character districts: neighborhoods, commercial
nodes and districts or corridors that share a distinctive identity based on their
built form, street design, landscape elements and other features, sometimes
including prevalent architectural styles. Character districts are broadly delineated
in Figure 4.2 and described below. It should be recognized that the 'boundaries'
between these districts are often quite indistinct and that many districts share
common features or elements. Principles and guidelines for character districts
are described in the next section of this chapter. This section also includes
specific guidance for a few geographically defined areas where redevelopment is
most likely to occur.
Residential Character Districts
Traditional Neighborhood
The oldest areas of suburban development,
built in the early 201h century in what was
then a largely agricultural village, served by
streetcar lines to Hopkins and Lake Harriet -
Minneapolis. ureas are centered in and
around the formerly independent village of
Morningside, the 50`h and France commercial
district, and the West Minneapolis Heights
and Mendelssohn subdivisions bordering the
streetcar line in northwest Edina.
Characteristics: straight streets, smaller
blocks and relatively smaller lots than in later
development. Most streets have sidewalks.
Bungalow styles are common in the
Morningside area. West Minneapolis
Heights contains a variety of vernacular
Midwest styles, combined with significant
numbers of postwar homes. Garages, where
present, are usually detached and served by
side yard drives or (rarely) alleys.
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The mall was constructed with two stories to shorten walking distances and an
open garden court to facilitate a pleasant walking experience.
Southdale is now over fifty years old. Victor Gruen's vision of mixing uses on a
single property has been refined to include the vertical mix of uses. The
significance of mixed use development lies in its ability to create synergies
between different land uses, similar to Southdale's inclusion of two large stores.
The benefits are many: different land uses can reinforce one another, have the
potential to reduce vehicle trips, and inject more community life into commercial
areas. When residential is in close proximity to certain types of retail, there is a
"built-in" market that provides a market for the retail. In this manner the Future
Land Use Plan seeks to provide a greater flexibility to allow mixed use in areas
where it is appropriate.
Existing Land Use Categories
Figure 4.1 illustrates the pattern of existing land use as of 2005. The categories
on the map are described as follows:
.$ingle-Family Residential
Single -Family Detached. Residential neighborhoods are the dominant land use
within the city, and single-family housing is the dominant housing type.
Neighborhood character varies based on era of construction, scale of
development, and landscape influences, as described in the Community Design
section of this chapter. The most common residential type consists of post-war
contemporary single-family homes on wooded lots along curvilinear streets.
About 53 percent of the city's land area is occupied by single-family detached
Multi -Family Residential
Single -Family Attached. This land use consists of residential units with common
walls, where each unit has direct exterior access. In Edina the most common
building types are townhouses and duplexes (two-family dwellings). Townhouses
tend to be clustered close to highway or major road corridors, while duplexes are
often found in narrow strips along major thoroughfares such as Vernon and
France avenues as a kind of buffer for adjacent single-family detached housing.
Multi -Family. This land use is defined by the multiple -unit building type where
each individual unit does not have direct ground floor access to the outside.
Multiple family developments are concentrated primarily along the main traffic
arteries and are generally located toward the edges of the city, often in proximity
to retail business establishments. Concentrations of multi -family development are
found along York and France avenues, Vernon Avenue, Lincoln Drive and Cahill
Road.
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these lots that is the concern, than do we need to tighten up our
setback and lot coverage standards. As Planning Commission is
aware, we spent over a year considering changes to address
the massing issue. When compared to other similar cities we
have some of the toughest regulations on development on
smaller lots.
Some options that may be considered:
1. Leave the requirement as it is today. This would enable the
City discretion in approving these types of subdivisions on a
case by case basis.
2. Amend the Zoning Ordinance to allow 50 -foot lots in the
Pamela Park area. This would require a rezoning of the
area, so to separate it from the current R-1 standards in
other residential areas of the City.
3. Amend the Ordinance to establish the minimum lot size to
the median of all lots with 500 feet, similar to the minimum
lot size in neighborhoods where lots exceed 9,000 square
feet in size and 75 feet in width. That would establish ,a
consistent minimum lot size all across Edina.
4. Create an overlay district.
Again, there may be several other options to consider?
For Discussion: The City Council has expressed interest in having a work
session with the Planning Commission to discuss the issue
further.
The Planning Commission is asked to discuss the issue and
frame up a potential work session agenda with the City
Council on how to address the issue.
Attached for consideration is a map that shows where these
subdivision requests have occurred; (Exhibit Al.) sections
from the Comprehensive Plan regarding residential districts;
(Exhibit A2—Al2.) and the current zoning ordinance
requirements. (Exhibit A13—A17.)
Topic: Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in
area and 75 feet in width
Date Introduced: January 25, 2012
Date of Discussion: January 25, 2012
Why on the list: As a result of the recent subdivision requests on Brookview
and Oaklawn, members of the Planning Commission have
expressed concern in regard to approving subdivisions that
require lot width and area variances.
History: In the last five years the city has received five (5) requests
(listed below) to subdivide properties into lots that were less
than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. (See the
locations on the attached Exhibit Al.) Please note that all of
these requests were made in the area around Pamela Park.
Three of these requests were approved; one is pending review
by the City Council, and one was withdrawn by the applicant
before action was taken.
Requested Subdivisions in the last five years
1. In 2006, the property at 5901 France Avenue received
variances to build four (4) 66 -foot wide lots consistent with
the area.
2. In 2008, 6120 Brookview (a 100 -foot wide lot) was
proposed to be divided into two (2) 50 -foot lots; however,
the applicant withdrew the request before action was
taken.
3. In 2009, a 100 -foot lot at 5920 Oaklawn was granted
variances to divide into two (2) 50 -foot lots.
4. In 2011, the property at 5829 Brookview was granted
variances to divide into two (2) 50 -foot lots.
5. In 2012, the property at 6109 Oaklawn received a
recommendation of approval from the Planning
Commission to divide the property into two (2) 50 -foot lots.
Decision Point: Should the City amend its ordinances regarding the city's
minimum lot size requirements in the R-1 Zoning District.
Options: There are many options on how to address the issue. Before
deciding on any one option, a goal should be established up
front as to what the City wishes to accomplish in changing the
ordinance. As an example, do we wish to prohibit this type of
subdivision, or do wish put greater control or review authority
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Section 2. Subsection 850.04. Subd. 4.D.2.a is amended to add the following
definitions:
D. Procedure for Rezoning to a Planned Unit Development (PUD)
District.
2. Applicability/Criteria
a. Uses. All permitted uses, permitted accessory uses,
conditional uses, and uses allowed by administrative permit
contained in the various zoning districts defined in Section
850 of this Title shall be treated as potentially allowable uses
within a PUD district, provided they would be allowable on
the site under the Comprehensive Plan. PwpeFty GU
zoned R 1, R 2 and PRD 1 shall not be eligible fOF a PUD.
Section 3. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by
the Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2012,
and as recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting.
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C. Minimum Lot Depth.
Single dwelling unit building 120 feet, PFOvided, hGWeVeF if the !Gt
SeGfien 810 of th*r, Code, WhiGh ha
than 120 feet, then-- The minimum
lot depth shall be not less than the
median lot depth of the
neighborhood as defined in Section
810 of this Code.
For reference, below is the regulation in Section 810:
Section 810
Median. The value (being, in this Section, lot area, lot depth or lot width, as the
case may be) in an ordered set of such values below which and above which
there is an equal number of such values, or which is the arithmetic mean of the
two middle values if there is no one such middle value.
Neighborhood. All lots in the Single Dwelling Unit District as established by
Section 850 of this Code which are wholly or partially within 500 feet of the
perimeter of the proposed plat or subdivision, except:
A. Lots used for publicly owned parks, playgrounds, athletic facilities and
golf courses,
B. Lots used for conditional uses as established by Section 850 of this
Code, or
C. Lots separated from the proposed plat or subdivision by the right of
way of either T. H. 100 or T. H. 62.
If the neighborhood includes only a part of a lot, then the whole of that lot shall be
included in the neighborhood. As to streets on the perimeter of the proposed plat
or subdivision, the 500 feet shall be measured from the common line of the street
and the proposed plat or subdivision.
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ORDINANCE NO. 2012-
AN
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AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING
MINIMUM LOT AREA AND DIMENSIONS IN THE R-1 DISTRICT
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 5. is amended to add the following
definitions:
Subd. 5 Requirements for Lot Areas and Dimensions.
A. Minimum Lot Area.
1. Single Dwelling Unit
B. Minimum Lot Width.
Single dwelling unit building
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less than the median lot area of the
lots in such neighborhood ;,as dfinei
in Section 810 of this Code.
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than 76 feet, then The minimum lot
width shall be not less than the
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neighborhood as def d in Section
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Date: May 9, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width
This topic was discussed by the Planning Commission last on January 25, 2012.
The general consensus of the Planning Commission at that time was to consider an
Ordinance Amendment that established the minimum lot size in Edina to be
consistent across the R-1 Zoning District. To accomplish that, the median lot width,
depth and area of all properties within 500 feet would establish the minimum lot
size requirement. This would be consistent with the current regulations for lots over
9,000 square feet in size.
Additionally, the Commission suggested offering the PUD Zoning District to all
properties within the R-1 or low density zoning districts, in an effort to provide an
additional tool for the City to encourage more creative development when
considering new redevelopment projects.
Attached is an Ordinance amendment that would establish both of these items.
Staff was also asked to investigate the number of 100 -foot lots in the 50 -foot lot
platted area. The attached maps demonstrate that there are about 26 100 -foots in
the Morningside area; there is about 20 100 -foot lots in the middle section of Edina,
south of 52nd Street, north of the Crosstown; and about 20 more in the north west
corner of Edina.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. • Edina, MN 55424
voice on this issue so people can get a sense of what to expect
Commissioner Fischer said he doesn't know how he feels about opening this up for PUD.
He asked if a PUD could only be allowed in specific instances and not generally.
Chair Grabiel said the next step would be to have staff retool the ordinance and develop a
ordinance that could use PUD as a subdivision method.
Planner Teague said from the discussion tonight it doesn't appear there's much support for
the median adding that staff would look at addressing subdivision through the PUD
process. Continuing, Teague noted that if the Commission takes this route the PUD option
would be open to all R-1 zoned properties. Teague said the Commission should keep
that in mind as they move forward.
VIII. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
Chair Grabiel acknowledged receipt of the Council Connection and Attendance.
IX. CHAIR AND COMMISSION COMMENTS
None.
X. STAFF COMMENTS
None.
Commissioner Scherer moved meeting adjournment at 9:00 pm. Commissioner Platteter
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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Respectfully submitted
Page 9 of 9
minimum lot size in Edina to be consistent across.the R-1 Zoning District.
Chair Grabiel informed the Commission he read a recent article in the Star & Tribune on
"in -fill" housing. Grabiel said that the article referred to "in -fill" housing as a way to
prevent blight in older neighborhoods. Grabiel said he thinks the City needs to take a more
positive approach to encourage in -fill development.
Commissioner Carpenter noted there are a fair amount of 50 -foot lots in Edina, adding
there is no way the City can prevent development or redevelopment of these lots.
Commissioners agreed if a new house meets setbacks tear down and rebuild can occur.
Commissioner Scherer said with regard to subdivision the Ordinance has stipulated the lot
width and lot depth standards for decades. She added she doesn't know how successful it
would be to change the minimum lot size at this point.
Commissioner Forrest said in -fill housing is hard to compare. She added she supports
density; however it needs to be appropriate for the lot size. Continuing Forrest
acknowledged there is a trend to tear down and rebuild; however, there are arguments on
both sides on what's right and what's wrong. Forrest suggested that instead of focusing on
lot'size maybe one should consider building size; what can be built etc., noting in many
areas the "pocket neighborhood" would work but may not work so much in other
neighborhoods.
Commissioner Staunton noted that 500 -feet is used as the tool to establish neighborhood
standards for lots in excess of 75 -feet in width. Staunton asked if there was a better way to
do this, adding 500 -feet could be considered arbitrary. He noted at times people say the
"neighborhood" is smaller than the 500 -feet and other times the "neighborhood" needs to
be expanded. Chair Grabiel agreed, adding he's not sure of a median width, depth or area
formula.
Commissioner Schroeder said if the outcome of these discussions is to achieve the proper
control mechanism for the City it may be of benefit to allow PUD's in the R-1 Zoning
District as a way to "subdivide". This way the applicant needs to prove to the City there's a
real benefit in granting the subdivision.
The discussion focused on combining lots. Planner Teague said it has been his experience
that combining lots to build an overly large house happens rarely. However, Teague said
he can understand concerns that this could occur.
Commissioner Staunton said it appears to be a solution in search of a problem when trying
to be consistent with subdivision standards. The Ordinance appears to exempt large lots
from the minimum lot requirements, adding one would think that same exemption would
also hold true for the smaller lots. Continuing, Staunton said the Commission needs to be
mindful that we can't rezone every lot in the City. Concluding Staunton said he agrees with
the comment from Commissioner Schroeder that there needs to be some form of
articulation on how subdivision benefits the City. Staunton said the City needs to find its
Page 8 of 9
Commissioner Carpenter asked Planner Teague if the City's noise ordinance was sufficient
to address these new systems or should the EEC take a look at noise. Planner Teague said
the Health Department enforces the noise ordinance and Edina has adopted State
requirements.
Commissioner Staunton said he observed that the Ordinance uses different terms to define
energy systems; adding in his opinion it should be uniform; either Energy Generation
Systems or Energy Collection Systems. Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Forrest asked for clarification on setbacks pointing out corner lots and large
commercial lots could be difficult. Teague explained that the energy systems must
maintain the same setbacks as are required for principal building or structures in the
underlying zoning district. Teague also noted thdt energy systems can't be located in the
front yard. Rapidly changing field don't want to be too restrictive.
Commissioner Platteter said front yard may need to be defined or clarified more. He said
the City needs to encourage sustainability while remaining reasonable.
Commissioner Carpenter said it appears to him that it's necessary that the City have some
control. Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Schroeder expressed concern with on-site consumption, and questioned if
any excess energy could be sold to the neighbors or back to the utility company. Schroeder
wondered if this was a concern and something that needs further discussion and
clarification. The discussion ensued with Commissioners acknowledging that potential;
however, Commissioners didn't believe the Ordinance should encourage it. It was also
noted that excess energy would probably go back into the grid.
The discussion continued with Commissioner suggesting that the City refer to other
communities to see how they regulate energy systems. It was also noted that energy
systems are continually changing and the City needs to keep pace with these changes.
Chair Grabiel said it appears the EEC should take another look at the proposed Ordinance
and clarify certain aspects. The Commission also expressed interest in meeting again with
the EEC.
Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 -feet in width
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission this topic was discussed by the Planning
Commission last on January 25, 2012. Teague said the general consensus of the Planning
Commission at that time was to consider an Ordinance Amendment that established the
Page 7 of 9
Section 3. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by the
Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2012, and as
recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting.
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2012.
City Clerk
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iv. the setback regulation, building coverage and floor area ratio
of the most closely related conventional zoning district shall
be considered presumptively appropriate, but may be
departed from to accomplish the purpose and intent
described in #1 above.
Section 2. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 5. is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 5. Requirements for Lot Areas and Dimensions.
A. Minimum Lot Area.
1. Single Dwelling Unit.
B. Minimum Lot Width.
1. Single Dwelling Unit.
C. Minimum Lot Depth.
1. Single Dwelling Unit.
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structural design of the housing must be compatible and
complimentary with .surrounding housing.
e. maintain or improve the efficiency of public streets and utilities;
preserve . and enhance site characteristics including natural
features, wetland protection, trees, open space, scenic views,
and screening;
g. allow for mixing of land uses within a development;
h. encourage a variety of housing types including affordable
housing; and
ensure the establishment of appropriate transitions between
differing land uses.
2. Applicability/Criteria
a. Uses. All permitted uses, permitted accessory uses, conditional
uses, and uses allowed by administrative permit contained in
the various zoning districts defined in Section 850 of this Title
shall be treated as potentially allowable uses within a PUD
district, provided they would be allowable on the site under the
Comprehensive Plan. P-reperty-surreA"ned " 1, Q 2 and
b. Eligibility Standards. To be eligible for a PUD district, all
development should be in compliance with the following:
where the site of a proposed PUD is designated for more than
one (1) land use in the Comprehensive Plan, the City may
require that the PUD include all the land uses so designated
or such combination of the designated uses as the City
Council shall deem appropriate to achieve the purposes of
this ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan;
ii. any PUD which involves a single land use type or housing
type may be permitted provided -that it is otherwise consistent
with the objectives of this ordinance and the Comprehensive
Plan;
iii. permitted densities may be specifically stated in the
appropriate planned development designation and shall be in
general conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; and
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Draft 7-2-2012
ORDINANCE NO. 2012 -
AN -ORDINANCE
012
AN-ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING MINIMUM LOT SIZE
REQUIREMENTS AND PUD ELIGIBILITY IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.04. Subd. 4.1) is amended as follows:
D. Procedure for Rezoning to a Planned Unit Development (PUD) District.
Purpose and Intent. The purpose of the PUD District is to provide
comprehensive procedures and standards intended to allow more
creativity and flexibility in site plan design than would be. possible
under a conventional zoning district. The decision to zone property to
PUD is a public policy decision for the City Council to make in its
legislative capacity. The purpose and intent of a PUD is to include
most or all of the following:
a. provide for the establishment of PUD (planned unit
development) zoning districts in appropriate settings and
situations to create or maintain a development pattern that is
consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan;
b. promote a more creative and efficient approach to land use
within the City, while at the same time protecting and promoting
the health, safety, comfort, aesthetics, economic viability, and
general welfare of the City;
C. provide for variations to the strict application of the land use
regulations in order to improve site design and operation, while
at the same time incorporate design elements that exceed the
City's standards to offset the effect of any variations. Desired
design elements may include: sustainable design, greater
utilization of new technologies in building design, special
construction materials, landscaping, lighting, stormwater
management, pedestrian oriented design, and podium height at
a street or transition to residential neighborhoods, parks or
other sensitive uses;
d. ensure high quality of design and design compatible with
surrounding land uses, including both existing and planned. in
the .case of a PUD in a low density residenttsl area, the
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City Nall - Phone 952-927-8861
Fax 952-826-0389 - www.CityofEdina.com
Date:, July 11, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width
At the May 9`h meeting, the Planning Commission directed staff to draft an Ordinance
amendment that would allow PUD rezoning as a tool to subdivide lots that are less than
9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. Attached is an Ordinance amendment that
would allow PUD in the R -I Zoning District. Current City Code regulations do not allow
PUD zoning in the R- I areas of the City.
The City Council has generally expressed interest in considering a uniform median lot
area, lot width and depth as the minimum lot size requirement in the R -I District.
Currently the minimum lot size in Edina is 9,000 square feet in area; 75 feet in width; and
120 feet in depth; unless located in an area where lots are larger than this, then the median
of all lots within 500 feet becomes the minimum lot size requirement. Therefore, that
language is still within the Ordinance amendment for final consideration.
The general consensus of the Planning Commission at the May 9`h meeting was that the
PUD Ordinance would allow the City more discretion in its review of Subdivisions to
ensure that the new lots better fit the neighborhood. Having the median established by
lots within 500 feet does not necessarily create a lot size that is consistent with the
immediate neighborhood.
The Planning Commission is asked to consider and discuss the attached ordinance, and
make a recommendation that we bring to the City Council at our September work
session.
For background, attached is the history of this topic including minutes from our past
discussions.
City of Edina - 4801 W. 50th St. - Edina, MN 55424
had first hand experiences with these issues. We should be reaching out directly to them and asking them to
help us figure out the right answers.
Thanks for considering my suggestions. Sorry I can't be there tonight.
kevin
Cary Teague
From: Kevin Staunton <kevin@stauntonlaw.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:26 PM
To: Cary Teague; Grabiel, Floyd
Cc: Jackie Hoogenakker
Subject: Zoning Ordinance Amendments
I can't attend tonight's meeting but wanted to pass along a couple of thoughts on the issues on our work session
agenda. Please pass this along to the rest of the Commission.
1. Subdivision of Lots of less the 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. First, I think we are mis-labeling
this item. I don't think we are contemplating subdivisions of lots less than 75 feet wide but are, instead,
contemplating permitting subdivisions that would result in lots less than 75 feet wide (and presumably result in
lots less than 9,000 square feet in area). Assuming my understanding is correct, we should make that clear. We
may also want to consider setting minimum width and area thresholds so that there could not be subdivision of
lots smaller than certain dimensions (I certainly don't think we want to create lots narrower than 40-50 feet in
any area). I also think we need additional thinking on the criteria we use to determine whether the proposed
structures on such lots are "compatible and complimentary" with the neighborhood (more on that in the
process section below). Finally, I am uncomfortable with promulgating those criteria in a policy; I think they
ought to be part of the ordinance so that people can easily find them when contemplating such proposals.
2. Building Wall Heights/Grading. I think we need to think about the problem we are trying to solve before we
solve it. Having watched a number of rebuilds on small lots come before us (and hear about a number that
don't have to), it does not seem to me that the problem is a lack of mass. To the contrary, we are constantly
hearing about too much house on too small a lot. In that context, it seems to me that we ought to — at a
minimum — proceed with caution when contemplating ordinance changes that will permit greater mass (albeit
in exchange for reduced height). In addition, the proposed ordinance change does nothing to address two other
problems we are hearing about — drainage and retaining walls. Rather than take a piecemeal approach to the
code on these issues, I'd like to see us be comprehensive. On retaining walls, there are a number of things we
could consider — adopting a fence -type "good side/bad side" rule that would require the property owner
creating the retaining wall situation to have the "bad" side (i.e., the side with the shear face) facing their
property. In the example we heard about at our last meeting, that would have required the builder to dig down
on the other side of the property rather than build up on the side he did. We could also consider retaining wall
setbacks after so many feet of height or some kind of average grade requirement. On drainage, it seems
unacceptable to me that a builder has no restrictions on the amount he may increase the rate of runoff
associated with a new house so long as the runoff follows the same path it did before construction. Why can't
we require the builder to engineer solutions (such as downspouts to underground stormwater pipes that go
directly to the city's stormwater system) that don't make the neighbor suffer the consequences of the new
construction. On both of these issues, I am sure there are other good ideas that could address the problems
while still permitting reasonable redevelopment of residential properties.
3. Process. The more I think about these issues, the more I understand how much I don't know. To date, we have
dealt with this dynamic by staff visiting with some selected local developers to get their suggestions about how
to proceed. I'm fine with that being part of our information gathering process (although I'd like to hear from
them directly, too) but think we're missing some other experts. People who live in the neighborhoods that have
had these issues also know a lot about the how the problems develop and, I'm betting, will have some good
ideas about potential solutions. I think we should be working to reach out to folks like those before we go to a
public hearing (we have, after all, done such outreach with the developers). Such an effort would give us some
suggestions to consider on the PUD issues (what is it that makes a new structure "compatible" with a
neighborhood?) as well as the mass, scale, drainage, and retaining wall issues. I think it is critical, though, that
we do more than merely put out a blanket notice that we want to hear from people. We know people who have
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Date: July 25, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width
At the July 11, 2012 meeting, the Planning Commission directed staff to prepare a draft of
a potential policy that would limit the size of homes built on newly created lots through a
PUD rezoning.
Below is a beginning draft of such a policy. The Planning Commission is asked to discuss at
the July 25'' Work Session following the regular meeting.
Low Density PUD or New Lots Requiring Variances
Purpose. This policy applies to homes being built in established neighborhoods on
newly created lots that require variances or PUD, Planned Unit Development
rezoning. The purpose is to require new homes built on these lots to be
consistent with the character of the existing homes in the neighborhood.
Policy. The City may require that new homes built on lots requiring variances or
PUD rezoning be consistent with the character of the existing homes in the
neighborhood. Neighborhood character, for the purpose of this policy means the
following:
The new home must have a floor area ratio, and height to the ridge line that
is no more than 10% more than the largest or tallest home within 100 feet
of the proposed house, and within 1,000 feet of the proposed house on the
same street. The City may disallow any existing lot(s) that the City
determines are not visually part of the applicant's neighborhood. The City
may also add any existing lot(s) that the City determines is visually part of
the applicant's neighborhood.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. - Edina. MN 55424
Commissioner Potts said he understands about reliance on the code and asked Planner Teague
if he knows "how many more of these combined small lots" are out there that may come up for
subdivision". Planner Teague responded that staff would look into that.
Commissioner Carpenter observed there are many 50 -foot wide lots in Edina with both new
and older homes on them, pointing out the vast majority of these homes can be torn down and
rebuilt without Commission or Council comment.
Commissioner Forrest said in her opinion the Commission needs to revisit this issue. She noted
that part of the problem is our current code that allows generous buildings to be built on these
small lots. Forrest agreed that the one size fits all may not work.
Chair Grabiel commented that in the Comprehensive and Land Use Plan the goal is to preserve
the character of the neighborhoods and maintain Edina's housing stock. Grabiel said he doesn't
see how in an area of predominately 50 -foot wide one can to argue that maintaining those 50 -
foot lots doesn't make sense. Concluding, Grabiel also said the opinion that ordinances "never
change" isn't true, pointing out ordinances do change.
Commissioner Forrest said in theory she agrees but the Commission also needs to consider how
these subdivisions affect neighborhoods. She added the Commission needs some form of
individual approach or a creatively crafted ordinance to address these issues.
Commissioner Platteter pointed out if someone wants to buy three 50 -foot wide lots and
conjoin them there is no review process; questioning if the code should work the same both
ways. Platteter said in his opinion maintaining the original plat is important. He said the plats
in reality defined Edina's neighborhoods, adding in his opinion these small lot neighborhoods
also need protection. Concluding Platter reiterated there are no limits on combining lots; which
to him is a concern and more out of character than going the other direction and honoring the
original plat,
Commissioner Staunton said the discussion was good, adding he agrees with Commissioners
Scherer and Schroeder that there shouldn't be just one way, adding having a city wide lot width
requirement may not be the best approach. Staunton pointed out that the Comprehensive
Plan recognizes character districts, adding that number 3 also makes sense to him. He pointed
out currently code requires that all applicants identify the 500 -foot neighborhood standards,
and even if the lots within that 500 -foot neighborhood don't meet current code variances are
required for the "new" lot(s). Staunton concluded he was also intrigued by allowing PUD in the
R-1 zoning district.
Chair Grabiel said this discussion needs to be continued and requested that staff look at the,
calendar and see if time was available for the Commission and Council to meet jointly. Grabiel
added that more research also needs to be done on how a PUD would "work" in the R-1 zoning
district and on how many "lots" are out there that were combined plat that now could be
"subdivided".
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Discussion
Chair Grabiel asked the Commission for their comments, adding in his opinion the City should
encourage redevelopment; noting there is a catch on how that can it be correctly
accomplished. Grabiel said he believes, at this point, if the City allows subdivisions to expand
up meeting 500 -foot neighborhood requirements for lot width, depth and area; shouldn't the
same be true if one wants to expand down.
Commissioner Schroeder said he likes the idea of allowing a PUD for residentially zoned parcels.
He noted other cities permit PUD's in their residential districts, adding that some cities like St.
Louis Park are more like Edina. Schroeder added the reason he likes this option is that PUD is
project specific. He pointed out in this instance a PUD process would answer many of the
neighbors questions; like trees, house placement etc. Concluding, Schroeder said PUD could be
another "subdivision" tool. Planner Teague pointed out that the City's ordinance precludes
PUD in R-1 zoning districts; however that doesn't mean PUD in an R-1 zoning district shouldn't
be reconsidered.
Commissioner Fischer pointed out that it wasn't that long ago that the Commission was
considering amending the ordinance to allow PUD; however, during the discussion on
allowing PUD zoning many residents expressed concern" with allowing PUD in the City's
R-1 zoning district. Continuing, Fischer noted since those discussions the Commission has
come across a couple of instances where a PUD zoning would be a benefit in an R-1 zoning
district and would make sense. Concluding, Fischer said permitting PUD in an R-1 zoning district
may be something the Commission should reconsider.
Commissioner Potts agreed and added if the City's goal was to protect the character of all
neighborhoods using PUD as another tool besides lot width, depth, area, etc. may not be a bad
idea.
Commissioner Carpenter said in reviewing the most recent request for subdivision in a small lot
neighborhood; including past similar requests that he was struck by the fact on how few people
contested these subdivisions; if at all. Carpenter noted there have been five subdivision
requests in small lot neighborhoods in five years, questioning if that's really a lot. He said he
also wonders if the Commission really needs to do anything to "fix " the ordinance if in reality it
works and wasn't broken.
Commissioner Scherer said her concern is that residents feel undercut on how the Commission
addresses subdivisions, adding some residents don't agree with the original plat theory.
Scherer said to her it's about reliance on the code. Continuing, Scherer said she doesn't believe
it is unreasonable to clarify the code so the Commission has a reliance factor. Concluding
Scherer stated she likes the idea of a PUD and also likes option 3 presented by staff,
acknowledging that each request becomes unique and emotional.
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Kim Mon mery, 5300 Evanswood Lane said she had questions on
of private la -f r public civic use.
Iks and the purchase
Jessica Cook said the f ds could be used for basic public�,irfiprovements but not the extra
"niceties" such as brick ers for sidewalks or, landscpi ng. TIF money cannot be used for
residential street improvements, public civic or copl'munity buildings or to facilitate private
redevelopment. TIF money can b used for sever water road improvements in support of a
redevelopment within the Projec6kr,,ea and purchase for the purposes of providing affordable
housing.
Commissioner Carpenter stated th t"the Coni ission's role is to determine if the expanded
Plan Area is consistent with the,L�omprehensivve Nn. Carpenter stated in his opinion that it is.
Motion
Commissioner Stau ton moved to recommend adoption bti a Resolution. Commissioner
Fischer secondectx a motion; noting the funds can be spent n�& will be spent. Fischer also
noted the rope df the Commission on this subject is limited and th the Resolution is in
keeping w�h the Comprehensive Plan. All voted aye; motion carrie
Discussion — Consideration of a Zoning Ordinance Amendment regarding lots smaller than
9,000 square feet and 75 -feet in width.
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague reported that as a result of recent subdivision requests on Brookview and
Oaklawn Avenues, members of the Planning Commission expressed concern in regard to
approving subdivisions that require variances.
Teague noted that in the last five years the City has received five (5) requests to subdivide
properties into lots that were less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. Teague
acknowledged that all of the requests were made in the area around Pamela Park. Three of
those requests were approved; one is pending review by the City Council, and one was
withdrawn by the applicant before action was taken.
Teague said there are options on how to address the issue and suggested that a goal should be
established up front as to what the City wishes to accomplish in changing the ordinance.
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voice on this issue so people can get a sense of what to expect
Commissioner Fischer said he doesn't know how he feels about opening this up for PUD.
He asked if a PUD could only be allowed in specific instances and not generally.
Chair Grabiel said the next step would be to have staff retool the ordinance and develop a
ordinance that could use PUD as a subdivision method.
Planner Teague said from the discussion tonight it doesn't appear there's much support for
the median adding that staff would look at addressing subdivision through the PUD
process. Continuing, Teague noted that if the Commission takes this route the PUD option
would be open to all R-1 zoned properties. Teague said the Commission should keep
that in mind as they move forward.
VIII. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
Chair Grabiel acknowledged receipt of the Council Connection and Attendance.
IX. CHAIR AND COMMISSION COMMENTS
None.
X. STAFF COMMENTS
None.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Scherer moved meeting adjournment at 9:00 pm. Commissioner Platteter
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Tack (&
Respectfully submitted
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minimum lot size in Edina to be consistent across the R-1 Zoning District.
Chair Grabiel informed the Commission he read a recent article in the Star & Tribune on
"in -fill" housing. Grabiel said that the article referred to "in -fill" housing as a way to
prevent blight in older neighborhoods. Grabiel said he thinks the City needs to take a more
positive approach to encourage in -fill development.
Commissioner Carpenter noted there are a fair amount of 50 -foot lots in Edina, adding
there is no way the City can prevent development or redevelopment of these lots.
Commissioners agreed if a new house meets setbacks tear down and rebuild can occur.
Commissioner Scherer said with regard to subdivision the,Ordinance has stipulated the lot
width and lot depth standards for decades. She added she doesn't know how successful it
would be to change the minimum lot size at this point.
Commissioner Forrest said in -fill housing is hard to compare. She added she supports
density; however it needs to be appropriate for the lot size. Continuing Forrest
acknowledged there is a trend to tear down and rebuild; however, there are arguments on
both sides on what's right and what's wrong. Forrest suggested that instead of focusing on
lot size maybe one should consider building size; what can be built etc., noting in many
areas the "pocket neighborhood" would work but may not work so much in other
neighborhoods.
Commissioner Staunton noted that 500 -feet is used as the tool to establish neighborhood
standards for lots in excess of 751feet in width. Staunton asked if there was a better way to
do this, adding 500 feet could be.considered arbitrary. He noted at times people say the
"neighborhood" is smaller than the 500 -feet and other times the "neighborhood" needs to
be expanded. Char Grabiel agreed, adding he's not sure of a median width, depth or area
formula.
Commissioner Schroeder said if the outcome of these discussions is to achieve the proper
control mechanism for the City it may beof benefit to allow PUD's in the R-1 Zoning
District as a wayto "subdivide'.'. This way the applicant needs to prove to the City there's a
real benefit in granting the subdivision.
The discussion focused ori combining lots. Planner Teague said it has been his experience
that combining lots to build an overly large house happens rarely. However, Teague said
he can understand concerns that this could occur.
Commissioner Staunton said it appears to be a solution in search of a problem when trying
to be consistent with subdivision standards. The Ordinance appears to exempt large lots
from the minimum lot requirements, adding one would think that same exemption would
also hold true for the smaller lots. Continuing, Staunton said the Commission needs to be
mindful that we can't rezone every lot in the City. Concluding Staunton said he agrees with
the comment from Commissioner Schroeder that there needs to be some form of
articulation on how subdivision benefits the City. Staunton said the City needs to find its
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Commissioner Carpenter asked Planner Teague if the City's noise ordinance wsufficient
to adss these new systems or should the EEC take a look at noise. Plann Teague said
the Het th Department enforces the noise ordinance and Edina has adopt State
requirements.
Commission Staunton said he observed that the Ordinance uses Vferent terms to define
energy system • adding in his opinion it should be uniform; eithepItnergy Generation
Systems or Ener Collection Systems. Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Forre asked for clarification on setbacks inting out corner lots and large
commercial lots could be, difficult. Teague explained tha he energy systems must
maintain the same setbacks as are required for princi I building or structures in the
underlying zoning district. Teague also noted that e ergy systems can't be located in the
front yard. Rapidly changing 'eld don't want to b too restrictive.
Commissioner Platteter said front
the City needs to encourage sustai
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control. Commissioners agreed.
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Hued with Commissioner suggesting the City refer to other
communitios.0 see how they regulate energy systems. It waslso noted that energy
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systems are tinually changing and the City needs to keep pac with these changes.
Ch4arify
iel said it appears the EEC should take another look at the proposed Ordinance
ancertain aspects. The Commission also expressed interest i neeting again with
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Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 -feet in width
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission this topic was discussed by the Planning
Commission last on January 25, 2012. Teague said the general consensus of the Planning
Commission at that time was to consider an Ordinance Amendment that established the
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Commissioner Scherer said that she feels this is a good idea and suggested that the
Commission "pick a few topics" and commit.
Commissioner Staunton agreed with Scherer and added that the Commission should also
prioritize our goals. Staunton said he is interested in the next steps for the Grandview
Development Framework and noted that he heard the City of Edina was hiring an Economic
Development Director. Planner Teague informed Commissioners he sat in on the
interviews for the new Economic and Development Director and that it has been narrowed
down to three very good candidates. Teague said he would let the Commission know who
was hired.
Commissioner Platteter said he believes a work plan is a great idea and agreed with
Commissioners Staunton and Scherer that the Commission needs to prioritize our goals.
Platteter suggested identifying our top five goals.
Planner Teague told the Commission that he has continually added topics to the
Commissions "bucket list". Teague said the Commission could go through that list and
develop our work plan using that list and add other issues we believe are pertinent.
Planner Teague also informed Commissioners that the City has submitted a grant to offset
the cost of tearing down old municipal buildings. Teague said that the old public works
building would be an excellent candidate for these monies.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
Chair Grabiel acknowledged back of packet materials. Chair Grabiel congratulated Platteter
and Forrest on their 100% attendance record.
VIII. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS
Chair Grabiel asked Planner Teague if he would give a brief account on what's happening
with "The Waters", "Southdale Apartments" and Byerly's. Commissioner Scherer also
asked what was occurring with the France Avenue corridor roadway study.
Planner Teague responded that "The Waters" was almost ready to pull their building
permit. He stated he believes it will be pulled next week. Continuing, Teague told the
Commission that he just met with Byerly's and they informed him they have retained a
housing developer. More information should be coming from them. With regard to the
"Southdale Apartments" WSB is initiating the parking study. Concluding, Teague reported
that an estimate on the improvements along France Avenue came back and the estimates
on those improvements are many many many times over budget.
IX. STAFF COMMENTS
None
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Building Height
Planner Teague informed the Commission there has been some concern expressed on
building height for new construction especially in the small lot neighborhoods. A request
has been made by builders to relax the present standard of increasing the setback 6 -inches
for each foot the average building height exceeds 15 -feet. Teague referred to an ordinance
he drafted that would amend the existing ordinance exempting the second story setback
requirement if the ridge line of a house is reduced to 30 -feet. Teague explained that
builders have indicated to him that this amended provision would allow more creativity for
building design by giving incentives to builders to reduce the ridge line in order to achieve
more square footage on the second story. This could also impact grading and retaining wall
issues.
Commissioner Staunton asked the purpose of this amendment. Planner Teague further
explained that the way the ordinance is now written makes it very difficult for builders to
construct a colonial two story home on these smaller lots. To achieve the adequate upstairs
ceiling height builders now create pitches to gain that living space; however it gives the
appearance of greater roof height and building mass. Relaxing the present requirement
would allow a builder to achieve more living space on the 2nd floor without pitching the
roof.
Commissioner Platteter stated he likes this approach. Commissioners agreed, adding if in
reality the ordinance is driving the steep pitched roof it would be good to modify the
ordinance.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners wondering if there would be a "down side" to this
change. The consensus was that this approach was simple and would work.
Commissioners suggested letting this percolate; noting the ordinance changes to address
height and mass are relatively new. It was further noted that building height and the
previously mentioned grading have similar components.
Work Plan
Planner Teague said the City Council has requested that each Board and Commission create
a yearly work plan. The purpose of the plans are to ensure that the priorities of the City
Council and Commissions are aligned, and that the City has the appropriate financial and
staff resources to support the work.
Teague said over the next few months, the Commission is asked to develop their plan for
the next year. Teague suggested that the Commission think about their goals for 2013 and
at the September work session with the City Council.
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Planner Teague added that for every change to the ordinance there are consequences.
Subdivision of lots less than 9,000 square feet in area and 75 -feet in width
Planner Teague reminded the Commissioner they directed staff to draft an Ordinance
amendment that would allow PUD rezoning as a tool to subdivide lots that are less than
9,000 square feet in area and 75 feet in width. Continuing, Teague said that recently the
City Council has expressed interest in considering a uniform median lot area, lot width and
depth as the minimum lot size requirement in the R-1 district. If established the median of
all lots within 500 -feet becomes the minimum lot size requirement. This approach is what
is currently done.
Commissioner Platteter said the last time this was discussed it did appear that PUD "may
be the way to go" but now without specific guidelines the 500 -foot neighborhood approach
the City has been utilizing may be best and fairest.
Commissioner Carpenter agreed. He pointed out if a PUD would be developed for
residential subdivisions of smaller lots he foresees residents applying for "a lot of PUD's".
Carpenter said as previously mentioned by Commissioner Platteter that specific guidelines
would need to be established for lots under 75 -feet in width or else there would be no
regulator. Carpenter stated in his opinion the 500 -foot rule has value. It's across the
board.
Commissioner Staunton commented if some form of guidelines need to be developed for
allowing a PUD in an R-1 zoning district adding the present "500 -foot rule" may be best
because it establishes guidelines. Staunton suggested that if the Commission was
uncomfortable with the present subdivision code using the 500 -foot standard to establish
neighborhood maybe in the smaller lots neighborhoods the radius could be lessened.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners agreeing that they should proceed with caution in
developing a PUD for R-1 lots that require variances. It was also noted there needs to be
fairness with the City's approach to this topic. It was suggested that a simple way to
approach this on the PUD level may be "what's in it for the City". It was acknowledged that
could be considered subjective.
Planner Teague suggested that the Commission could develop a low density PUD or
something to the effect of subdivision requiring variances. That could be done in ordinance
form. Continuing, Teague added that a number of City's have policies; not ordinances that
regulate neighborhood character, etc. Teague told the Commission he would draft
something reflecting those sentiments.
The discussion continued with Commissioners requesting that Planner Teague do an
informal survey of how other City's deal with subdivisions of non -conforming lots.
Commissioners suggested that staff first tackle this from a policy position not ordinance.
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Subdivision: #6 Mark Dahlquist Addition
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive (3), Positive to neutral (1).
Comparable values.
3. House spacing? Acceptable (2), Not appropriate (2). Too close to street.
4. Lot size? Appropriate (2), Not appropriate (2). Lots should be deeper. Seem too small.
OK, clustered as these are.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes
6. Other comments: Lots too shallow. Maximum buildings on wooded or sloped sites.
Least desirable subdivision.
Subdivision: #7 Granger Addition
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable. Nice tree saving. Older development -
maximum mature trees.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Neutral - Same as surrounding. Comparable
style and value. Two houses are out of character- would not be so apparent if homes
were not two stories.
3. House spacing? Acceptable (3), Does not fit (1).
4. Lot size? Appropriate
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes (3), No (1).
6. Other comments: Would better with more newer homes, but not likely in this
neighborhood. Good fit. Fits with the rest of the area.
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3. House spacing? Fits with neighborhood (2), Does not fit with neighborhood (2). Not
similar to surrounding homes, but OK.
4. Lot size? Appropriate.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes.
6. Other comments: Good use of hilly terrain. Very large homes on the east side. Close
on the west.
Subdivision: #4 Jyland Whitney
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable to unknown.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive
3. House spacing? Acceptable. Except for #42 is too crowded and close to the street.
OK, as it is its own cul-de-sac.
4. Lot size? Appropriate.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Fits well with the neighborhood.
6. Other comments: Subdivision is carved out of large natural and private area - a
favorite area of the Edina.
Subdivision: #5 Waterman Addition
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable (3), Negative (1). Looks like a large
impact.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive (2), Neutral (2)
3. House spacing? Not a good fit - larger than typical. Somewhat close. Too close for
their size.
4. Lot size? Appropriate (3), Not appropriate (1). Home elevations dominate the lots.
Only within the subdivision.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes (2), No (2) - New homes stuck into an older neighborhood.
6. Other comments: New homes an "island" on their own. Would townhouses been
better?
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Appendix C Summary of Task Force Responses
4 written responses) November 23, 2004
Subdivision: #1 Arrowhead Pointe
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable to unknown.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive to neutral.
3. House spacing? Fits with neighborhood. Neighborhood unto itself. Well done.
4. Lot size? Appropriate. Big houses on small lots are OK.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes (3) - Some adjacent houses are less value than new homes.
That is ok. No (1) - OK on cul-de-sac. Road too wide for the area.
6. Other comments: Subdivision contributes nicely to Edina.
Question impact of new neighborhood pockets like this?
Subdivision: #2 Brendan Glen
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable to unknown.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive
3. House spacing? Fits with neighborhood. Houses a bit close, but OK.
4. Lot size? Appropriate.
5. Fit with neighborhood? Yes
6. Other comments: Nice houses. Well done subdivision. , Upgrade in .relation to
surrounding neighborhood. Hwy 169 noise. Lots next to 169 are undeveloped.
Subdivision: #3 Ratelle Hill
1. Impact upon natural resources? Acceptable(2), unknown (1), Negative (1)
God retention of woods and additional landscaping. Tree loss seems significant.
2. Influence upon surrounding properties? Positive (2), Neutral (1), Negative (1)
Similar to those across the street, but not too the side or rear.
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Appendix B Comparative Subdivision Regulation Analysis
The City of Edina uses a unique method for regulating lot size, width, etc. in single-family
residential subdivisions. City regulations require the lot size, lot width, lot depth and width -to -lot
perimeter ratio of new subdivisions must be equal to or greater than the median lot size, lot width,
lot depth and width to perimeter ratio of the surrounding neighborhood. Most cities use a fixed
minimum lot size, lot width etc. for a given residential zoning district. Those cities typically have
between multiple residential zones with varying minimum lot sizes, widths, etc.
The Edina code results in lot sizes that are similar to the surrounding neighborhood and the
transitions between adjacent lot sizes are fairly uniform. The more typical "Euclidean" zoning
method results in uniform lot sizes within a given zone and fairly distinct differences in lot size
and house type between zones and along zoning boundaries. Edina's code in general results in
larger lot sizes than required by most cities of a similar nature.
Ingraham & Associates evaluated zoning and subdivision codes from 20 cities to see how
they treated subdivision of lots and to determine if any of their codes contained regulations
that would be helpful and applicable to the City of Edina. The 20 cities were ones that were
selected previously as part of an evaluation of newly updated city codes for organization and
clarity. All 20 cities used the traditional Euclidean method of zoning (separate districts and
standards based on intensity). All cities have a fixed minimum lot size for each residential
zoning district. Almost all of them had methods for imparting flexibility through use of a
Planned Development or other flexible zoning tool. Many cities had codes to vary setback
requirements.
Two cities had lot size/subdivision regulations that may be helpful to Edina.
The City of Minneapolis requires lot area to not be less than the greater of (1) the minimum
requirements set forth by the zoning ordinance or (2) the average of the single-family and
two-family zoning lots located in whole or in part within three hundred fifty (350) feet or the
average of the single-family and two-family zoning lots located in whole or in part within the
same zoning district within three hundred fifty (350) feet, whichever is greater, where such
average lot area exceeds the minimum zoning requirement by fifty (50) percent or more.
In residential infill/estate lot split situations, Boulder, Colorado requires the smaller of the
two lots be at least forty percent of the square footage of the original lot.
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A. The minimum lot area, as defined in Section 850 of this Code, shall be
the greater of 9,000 square feet, or the median lot area of lots in the
neighborhood.
B. The minimum lot width, as defined in Section 850 of this Code, shall be
the greater of 75 feet, or the median lot width of lots in the neighborhood.
C. The minimum lot depth, as defined in Section 850 of this Code, shall be
the greater of 120 feet, or the median lot depth of lots in the
neighborhood.
The lot width to perimeter ratio, as defined in Section 850 of this Code, for any lot in the
proposed plat or subdivision shall not be less than 0.1.
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I. The suitability of street grades in relation to the grades of lots and existing
or future extension of the City's water, storm and sanitary sewer systems.
J. The adequacy and availability of access by police, fire, ambulance and
other life safety vehicles to all proposed improvements to be developed
on the proposed plat or subdivision.
K. Whether the physical characteristics of the property, including, without
limitation, topography, vegetation, susceptibility to erosion or siltation,
susceptibility to flooding, use as a natural recovery and ponding area for
storm water, and potential disturbance of slopes with a grade of 18
percent or more, are such that the property is not suitable for the type of
development or use proposed.
L. Whether development within the proposed plat or subdivision will cause
the disturbance of more than 25 percent of the total area in such plat or
subdivision containing slopes exceeding 18 percent.
M. Whether the proposed plat or subdivision, or the improvements proposed
to be placed thereon are likely to cause substantial environmental
damage.
Subd. 3 Additional Considerations. In addition to the foregoing matters,
the Commission, in connection with its recommendation to the Council,
and the Council in determining whether to approve or disapprove a
proposed plat or subdivision, shall specifically and especially consider the
following matters:
A. Whether the proposed plat or subdivision complies with the policies,
objectives and goals of the Comprehensive Plan.
B. Whether the proposed plat or subdivision complies with the policies,
objectives, goals and requirements of Section 850 of this Code, including,
without limitation, the lot size and dimension requirements of Section 850
of this Code, and the Flood Plain Overlay District and Heritage
Preservation Overlay District of Section 850 of this Code, as varied by
variances therefrom, if any, granted pursuant to this Section or Section
850 of this Code.
C. Whether the design of the proposed plat or subdivision, or the design or
type of improvements proposed to be placed thereon, may be detrimental
to the health, safety or general welfare of the public.
D. Whether the proposed plat or subdivision conforms to, and complies with
the requirements of, applicable State Law.
E. Whether the proposed plat or subdivision complies with the policies,
objectives, goals and requirements of this Section, as varied by variances
therefrom, if any.
Single Family Lot Requirements
Subd. 2 Lot Dimensions. If the proposed plat is wholly or partially within
the Single Dwelling Unit District, then the minimum lot area, lot width, lot
depth and lot width to perimeter ratio shall be as follows:
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C. The lot width to perimeter ratio (as defined in Section 850 of this Code)
for each lot in the proposed plat or subdivision.
Subdivision Criteria/Findings
Subd. 1 Considerations. The Commission in reviewing proposed plats
and subdivisions and in determining its recommendation to the Council,
and the Council in determining whether to approve or disapprove of any
plat or subdivision, may consider, among other matters, the following:
A. The impact of the proposed plat or subdivision, and proposed
development, on the character and symmetry of the neighborhood as
evidenced and indicated by, but not limited to, the following matters:
1. The suitability to the size and shape of the lots in the proposed plat or
subdivision relative to the size and shape of lots in the neighborhood; and
2. The compatibility of the size, shape, location and arrangement of the
lots in the proposed plat or subdivision with the proposed density and
intended use of the site and the density and use of lots in the
neighborhood.
B. The impact of the proposed plat or subdivision, and proposed
development, on the environment, including but not limited to,
topography, steep slopes, vegetation, naturally occurring lakes, ponds
and streams, susceptibility of the site to erosion and sedimentation,
susceptibility of the site to flooding and water storage needs on and from
the site.
C. The consistency of the proposed plat or subdivision, and proposed
development, and compliance by the proposed plat or subdivision, and
the proposed development, with the policies, objectives, and goals of the
Comprehensive Plan.
D. The compliance of the proposed plat or subdivision, and the proposed
development with the policies, objectives, goals and requirements of
Section 850 of this Code including, without limitation, the lot size
provisions and the Floodplain Overlay District provisions of Section 850 of
this Code.
E. The impact of the proposed plat or subdivision, and proposed
development on the health, safety and general welfare of the public.
F. The relationship of the design of the site, or the improvements proposed
and the conflict of such design or improvements, with any easements of
record or on the ground.
G. The relationship of lots in the proposed plat or subdivision to existing
streets and the adequacy and safety of ingress to and egress from such
lots from and to existing streets.
H. The adequacy of streets in the proposed plat or subdivision, and the
conformity with existing and planned streets and highways in surrounding
areas. Streets in the proposed plat or subdivision shall be deemed
inadequate if designed or located so as to prevent or deny public street
access to adjoining properties, it being the policy of the City to avoid
landlocked tracts, parcels or lots.
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Appendix A
Definitions:
Selections from Sections 810 (Subdivisions) and 850 (Zoning)
of the Edina City Code - Single Family Residential Subdivisions
Neighborhood. All lots in the Single Dwelling Unit District as established
by Section 850 of this Code which are wholly or partially within 500 feet of
the perimeter of the proposed plat or subdivision, except:
A. Lots used for publicly owned parks, playgrounds, athletic facilities and
golf courses;
B. Lots used for conditional uses as established by Section 850 of this Code;
or
C. Lots separated from the proposed plat or subdivision by the right of way
of either T. H. 100 or T. H. 62.
If the neighborhood includes only a part of a lot, then the whole of that lot
shall be included in the neighborhood. As to streets on the perimeter of
the proposed plat or subdivision, the 500 feet shall be measured from the
common line of the street and the proposed plat or subdivision.
Neighborhood Analysis Required
Subd. 5 Additional Requirements for Platting or Subdivision of
Property in the Single Dwelling Unit District. In addition to the
requirements of Subd. 4 of this Subsection, the applicant for a proposed
plat or subdivision of land wholly or partially within the Single Dwelling
Unit District as then determined by Section 850 of this Code, shall also
deliver to the Planner the following information from a source acceptable
to the Planner.
A. A complete list of all lots which are within the neighborhood of the
property proposed to be platted or subdivided with the following
Information:
1. The lot area for each lot
2. The mean and median lot area (in square feet) of all lots;
3. The lot width, as defined by Section 850 of this Code, for each lot;
4. The man and median lot width, as defined by Section 850 of this Code,
of all lots;
5. The lot depth, as defined by the Section 850 of this Code, for each lot;
6. The mean and median lot depth, as defined by Section 850 of this
Code, of all lots; and
7. The name and address of each lot.
B. The location of the proposed building pad for each lot in the proposed
plat or subdivision.
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Figure One - Map of Subdivisions Occurring Since 1990
Insert map showing all subdivisions created since 1990 and highlight the seven
subdivisions studied by the Task Force.
The map shows the subdivisions that were built since 1990 (date the current city residential
subdivision code was adopted) and the seven representative subdivisions evaluated by the Task
Force.
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Edina Subdivision Study Participants
Study Task Force Members:
Rod Hardy
N. Craig Johnson
Robert Johnson
Meg Mannix
Mary Vasaly
City Staff:
Craig Larsen, City Planner
Consultant:
Greg Ingraham, AICP
Ingraham & Associates Inc.
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Edina C.'ity Code' et -tion 10 requires all i7roposeci subdivisions to meet a set ofconsider-ations i11 -
til dings. 'Those findings ensure conformance olnew subdiv isions toeit}° ,Onk •and policies and
regulations, compatibility witi1 the surrounding <trca, protection of health safetyand Welfare,
provision of adcduatc street and emergency seg -vice and I.votcetion of natural resources. 't -hese
findings serve as in additional review mechanism to ensure well --deli, ned and compatible
subdi\lslons.
Recommendation
The neighborhood median lot size, width, etc. provision is an appropriate subdivision regulation
that assures that there is no abrupt lot size differences within neighborhoods. The subdivisions
created under the current regulations are high quality and in general, blend in well with the
neighborhood. The existing code promotes good development. The City Code findings assure
a°Mition rl recicw and c: mhatibility of new :,nbetivisi:ms. No change in subdivision regulations is
recommended.
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Consultant Comments and Recommendations
Neighborhood median lot size
The Edina requirement that new subdivisions meet the average lot size, width, etc. of the
surrounding neighborhood assures that new lots will "fit" into the generally scale and context of
the neighborhood. That alone is not a guarantee of a successful and well-received subdivision,
but it does prevent major differences in lot ize within neighborhoods (i.e. a new subdivision of
five 10,000 square foot lots within an existQ6 neighborhood of 50.000 square foot lots). .
Cities that use the more traditional approach of multiple single-family residential zoning distridW
(i.e. RI zone -20,000 square foot minimum lot size, R2 -12,000 square foot minimum lot size,
R3 - 8,000 square foot minimum lot size) have issues when larger remnant parcels are subdivided
into smaller lots.
Subdivision quality
The subdivisions created since 1990 are of a uniformly high quality and few issues were apparent.
The existing code provisions and process seem to work well and result in high quality
subdivisions.
Housing size
The real estate trend has been toward larger homes. As a result the homes in new subdivisions
tend to be larger than the older homes surrounding the new development. This is does not appear
to have a negative affect upon the property values or livability of the neighborhoods.
Larger lots
Requiring new lots to meet the median lot size of the neighborhood results in larger lots than
typically found in cities using traditional minimum lot area zoning requirements only. The larger
lots contribute toward higher housing costs. However, Edina's higher value real estate market is
the biggest influence on housing price and affordable detached single-family homes are difficult
to achieve in most parts of the Twin Cites.
'state lots
`file City regulations requiring nc!%v lets to meet the median lot size;- of ilre neighborhood pra2ct
areas or groups of large "estate" size- lots by requiring any new subdivision to meet the median lot
size ofillcrrei�ghborbood. The result ofa neW subdivision in an area ot'existing large lots is iliat
any new lots Wnuld be Aibstantially similar to the typical lot ,;izc in the sr.ttTOLIndin'. area.
however. the City regulation :dig not pre --vent: an existing isolated laroc estate lot from bein"
s.i.rl?divided inter smaller lots if the large lett is loca[co in a neighborhood of smaller lots. if the
neighborhoocl median lot sine is substantially smaller than the isolated estate lot, the estate lot
lvonld be able to be subdivided into lots similar to the typical lot size in Clic area.
Infill subdivisions
By their very nature, new subdivisions in Edina create change in a neighborhood. Change can be
controversial. Controversy and change are inevitable and are best managed through an open and
informative process with clear guidelines and standards. The median lot size requirement
minimizes the extent of the change by assuring that new lots will be similar in size to the existing
neighborhood lots.
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Study Process
Ingraham & Associates visited and evaluated all of the subdivisions that occurred in the City
since 1990 and reviewed existing City subdivision regulations. A meeting was held with the five
Task Force members to review the regulations and issues. Task Force members were asked to
visit seven subdivisions located throughout the City. The seven subdivisions represent a cross
section of the subdivisions approved in the City since 1990. See the attached map of subdivision
locations, Figure 1.
Ingraham & Associates reviewed other cities ordinances to determine if there were subdivision
regulations that would be applicable to Edina. A summary of that research is attached as
Appendix B.
Task Force members visited and evaluated each subdivision. A summary of their evaluations is
attached as Appendix C. A meeting was held with the Task Force to review their subdivision
analysis and to discuss the need for any code revisions. The Task Force members, consultant and
city planner discussed the quality of the subdivisions and their fit with the neighborhood and
community. The Task Force members reached a consensus that the existing regulations worked
well and the subdivisions were appropriate and of high quality. No changes to the existing
regulations were recommended. Their findings and recommendations are noted below.
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Task Force Findings and Recommendations
Summary of the Task Force evaluations of the subdivisions and subdivision regulations.
1. Some new subdivisions are "islands" within older or slightly different housing, but this is
OK, particularly when the subdivision is large enough or is designed to act as its own
neighborhood (i.e. using a new cul-de-sac street).
2. Setbacks seem tight (too small) in some subdivisions, but in general, larger houses on
smaller lots are OK.
3. The quality of the new subdivisions and new homes is high and matches or exceeds the
values and quality of the surrounding neighborhood.
4. In general, Task Force members felt that the subdivisions they examined were appropriate
for the neighborhood and the city. Opinions vary and beauty (and what is a good
subdivision) is in the eye of the beholder.
5. The city should maintain setbacks and lot coverage limits that are similar to the
surrounding area and city. Continue to monitor variance requests and consider code
adjustments if needed (current City practice).
6. The existing subdivision code promotes good development and is appropriate and no
changes in the subdivisions code are recommended.
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Edina Single Family Residential Subdivision Study
Introduction
The City of Edina initiated a study of its subdivision regulations in response to comments about
the appropriateness of some newer single-family residential subdivisions. The purposes of the
study were to:
• Objectively analyze the subdivision regulations,
• Evaluate the subdivisions that result from the regulations,
• Compare Edina's subdivision regulations to other cities regulations,
• Determine if changes are needed to the City subdivisions regulations, and
• If changes are needed, prepare recommendations for ordinance amendments.
The fundamental question of the study is:
Do City subdivision codes promote or inhibit good development?
In order to assure an objective study, the City hired Ingraham & Associates, a land planning
consulting firm to conduct the study and used a citizen task force to independently review a cross
section of citysubdivisions and to evaluate the city subdivision regulations. A list of study
participants is attached on page 4.
Edina Subdivision Regulations
The City of Edina uses a unique method for regulating lot size, width, etc. in single-family
residential subdivisions. Most cities use a fixed minimum lot size (i.e. 12,000 square feet), lot
width, etc. for a given residential zoning district. Those cities typically have multiple residential
zones with varying minimum lot sizes, widths, etc. Edina has one single-family residential
zoning district. The single-family zoning district regulations specify a minimum lot size, width
and depth. City regulations also require the lot size, lot width, lot depth and width -to -lot
perimeter ratio of new subdivisions must be equal to or greater than the median lot size, lot width,
lot depth and width to perimeter ratio of the surrounding neighborhood (properties within 500 feet
of the proposed subdivision). For example, if the median lot size in the neighborhood is 20,000
square feet, a landowner must have at least 40,000 square feet of land in order to subdivide the
property. They would also have to meet the minimum dimensional and median lot width, depth
and ratio requirements to qualify for a potential subdivision. These Code provisions have been in
place since 1990. A summary of the Edina single-family residential subdivision code is attached
as Appendix A.
The Edina code results in lot sizes that are similar to the surrounding neighborhood and the
transitions between adjacent lot sizes are fairly uniform. The more typical multiple zoning
district method (use of fixed minimum lot sizes only within a given zoning district) results in
uniform lot sizes within a given zone and fairly distinct differences in lot size and house type
between zones and along zoning boundaries. Edina's code in general results in larger lot sizes
than required by most cities of a similar nature.
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Section 810 of this Code, which has lot
with a.median lot depth greater than
120 feet, then the minimum lot depth
shall be not less than the median lot
depth of lots in such neighborhood.
Section 3. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by the
Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2012, and as
recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting.
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2012.
City Clerk
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ii. any PUD which involves a single land use type or housing
type may be permitted provided that it is otherwise consistent
with the objectives of this ordinance and the Comprehensive
Plan;
iii. permitted densities may be specifically stated in the
appropriate planned development designation and shall be in
general conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; and
iv. the setback regulation, building coverage and floor area ratio
of the most closely related conventional zoning district shall
be considered presumptively appropriate, but may be
departed from to accomplish the purpose and intent
described in #1 above.
Section 2. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 5. is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 5. Requirements for Lot Areas and Dimensions.
A. Minimum Lot Area.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 9,000 square feet provided however, if
the lot is in a neighborhood as defined
in Section 810 of this Code, which has
lots with a median lot area greater
than 9,000 square feet, then the
minimum lot area shall be not less
than the median lot area of the lots in
the neighborhood.
B. Minimum Lot Width.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 75 feet, provided however, if the lot is
in a neighborhood as defined in
Section 810 of this Code, which has lot
with a median lot width greater than 75
feet, then the minimum lot width shall
be not less than the median lot width
of lots in the neighborhood.
C. Minimum Lot Depth.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 120 feet, provided however, if the lot is
in a neighborhood as defined in
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d. ensure high quality of design and design compatible with
surrounding land uses, including both existing and planned. In
the case of a PUD in a tow density resider}tial area, the
structural design of the housing must be compatible and
complimentary with surrounding housing.
In order to be compatible with the surrounding housing, the
new home(s) must Have a floor area ratio, and height to the
ridge line that is no more than 10% more than the largest and
tallest home within 100 feet of the proposed house, And within
1,00.0 feet of the proposed house on the same street.
e. maintain or improve the efficiency of public streets and utilities;
preserve and enhance site characteristics including natural
features, wetland protection, trees, open space, scenic views,
and screening;
g. allow for mixing of land uses within a development;
h. encourage a variety of housing types including affordable
housing; and
ensure the establishment of appropriate transitions between
differing land uses.
2. Applicability/Criteria
a. Uses. All permitted uses, permitted accessory uses, conditional
uses, and uses allowed by administrative permit contained in
the various zoning districts defined in Section 850 of this Title
shall be treated as potentially allowable uses within a PUD
district, provided they would be allowable on the site under the
Comprehensive Plan. PFOpeFty GUFFently zoned R 1,
PRD 7 shall not be eligible for a PUD-.
b. Eligibility Standards. To be eligible for a PUD district, all
development should be in compliance with the following:
where the site of a proposed PUD is designated for more than
one (1) land use in the Comprehensive Plan, the City may
require that the PUD include all the land uses so designated
or such combination of the designated uses as the City
Council shall deem appropriate to achieve the purposes of
this ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan;
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ORDINANCE NO. 2012 -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING MINIMUM LOT SIZE
REQUIREMENTS AND PUD ELIGIBILITY IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.04. Subd. 4.D is amended as follows:
D. Procedure for Rezoning to a Planned Unit Development (PUD) District.
Purpose and Intent. The purpose of the PUD District is to provide
comprehensive procedures and standards intended to allow more
creativity and flexibility in site plan design than would be possible
under a conventional zoning district. The decision to zone property to
PUD is a public policy decision for the City Council to make in its
legislative capacity. The purpose and intent of a PUD is to include
most or all of the following:
a. provide for the establishment of PUD (planned unit
development) zoning districts in appropriate settings and
situations to create or maintain a development pattern that is
consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan;
b. promote a more creative and efficient approach to land use
within the City, while at the same time protecting and promoting
the health, safety, comfort, aesthetics, economic viability, and
general welfare of the City;
C. provide for variations to the strict application of the land use
regulations in order to improve site design and operation, while
at the same time incorporate design elements that exceed the
City's standards to offset the effect of any variations. Desired
design elements may include: sustainable design, greater
utilization of new technologies in building design, special
construction materials, landscaping, lighting, stormwater
management, pedestrian oriented design, and podium height at
a street or transition to residential neighborhoods, parks or
other sensitive uses;
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OF MEMO
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Date: September 4, 2012
To: Honorable Mayor and City Council
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Consideration of Subdivisions that result in lots less than 9,000 s.f. in area and 75 feet in
width. (R- I /PUD)
Over the past several months the Planning Commission has been considering a Zoning
Ordinance Amendment regarding subdivision of smaller lots in the R- I Zoning District.
Attached are staff memos, minutes highlighting the Planning Commission discussions, and
the latest draft Ordinance.
The Planning Commission would like to have a discussion with the City Council in regard
to the Ordinance prior to submitting a formal Ordinance Amendment for the City Council
to consider.
There are three options to consider:
1. Continue to review these subdivisions on a case by case basis, using the variance
criteria.
2. Amend the Ordinance to establish a city-wide minimum lot size by using the
median lot area, width and depth of lots within 500 feet. (Current minimum lot
area is 9,000 s.f.; 75 feet in width; and 125 feet in depth. In areas of lots greater in
area, width and depth, the median within 500 establishes the minimum lot size.)
3. Amend the Ordinance to allow a PUD in the R -I District. (See attached draft
Ordinance.) Small lot subdivisions could be considered on a case by case basis using
PUD rezoning. Specific site conditions could be placed on the PUD, such as
regulating house size, height, tree protection and site grading.
City of Edina - 4801 W. S0th St. - Edina, MN 55424
Minutes - Work Session/Edina City Council/September 4. 2012
The Council and Commission briefly discussed the Grandview Framework's next steps. Discussion
included need to develop a vision for the public realm, how to move forward with so many
individual property owners, was there a need for a master developer, and public involvement in
the next phase. It was suggested some long term discussion with the community regarding the
public space realm was needed. Further, all parties should be at the table including the City, the
School District and the land owners. Manager Neal suggested that the City's new Economic
Development Manager, Bill Neuendorf be allowed to begin his work. One possible outcome might
include a Small Area Plan.
Mayor Hovland declared the meeting adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Minutes approved by Edina City Council, September 19, 2012.
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk
James B. Hovland, Mayor
MINUTES
OF THE WORK SESSION OF THE
EDINA CITY COUNCIL AND EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD AT CITY HALL
SEPTEMBER 4, 2012
5:00 P.M.
Mayor Hovland called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. in the Community Room of City Hall.
Answering rollcall were Members Brindle, Sprague, Swenson and Mayor Hovland. Member
Bennett entered the meeting at 5:07 p.m.
Edina Planning Commissioners attending were: Michael Fischer, Arlene Forrest, Floyd Grabiel,
Chair, Michael Platteter, Ken Potts, Nancy Nyrop Scherer, and Kevin Stanton.
Edina City Staff attending the meeting: Kris Aaker, Assistant City Planner; Jennifer Bennerotte,
Communications and Technology Services Director; Wayne Houle, Director of Engineering; Ari
Klugman, City Manager Intern; Karen Kurt, Assistant City Manager; Jeff Long, Police Chief; Debra
Mangen, City Clerk; Scott Neal, City Manager; Bill Neuendorf, Economic Development Manager;
Brian Olson, Public Works Director; Shelagh Stoerzinger, Appraiser; Cary Teague, Director of
Community Development; Bob Wilson, City Assessor.
HILLCREST DEVELOPMENT (PENTAGON PARK PLANS)
James Nelson, Adviser to Hillcrest Development introduced Scott Tankenoff and Charlie Nestor of
Hillcrest Development. Mr. Tankenoff gave an overview of Hillcrest's plan for the potential
renovation and redevelopment of Pentagon Park.
The Mayor thanked the men for their presentation and suggested the Planning Commission and
City Council begin their portion of the work session.
CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION
The City Council and Planning Commission discussed the consideration of subdivisions resulting in
lots less than 9,000 square feet and 75 feet in width and Building Height/Grading concurrently.
Concerns included: impact of redevelopment when larger homes are built, how to regulate the
maximum size homes allowed on the smaller (50 foot) lots, desire to not quell redevelopment in
balance with neighborhood concerns, height and impact on neighborhood character, grading and
drainage. Generally the Council did not indicate any desire to use PUD for residential areas, and
suggested further work continue on the issues surrounding height and subdivisions. Public
meetings were suggested if changes are contemplated to minimum lot size.
The Commission's ongoing work on the City's Zoning Code was acknowledged to be an important
part of the 2013 Work Plan.
The Council indicated they liked the outcome of the projects that have utilized the Sketch Plan
review process and encouraged its continued use.
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by the
Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2012, and as
recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting.
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2012.
City Clerk
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D. Minimum Lot Width to Perimeter Ratio. Each lot shall have a lot
width to perimeter ratio of not less than 0.1.
E. Subdivisions of Previously -Platted 50 --foot wide lots. The, City
will consider exceptions to the above requirements for
subdivision of property within areas t4,at were previously platted,
with 50 -foot wide lots. The following -shall be considered where
reviewing variance requests:
1. The proposed new lots shall not be less than 50 -feet in
width or narrower than the width of the underlying plat,
2. The structural design of the new housing must be
compatible and complimentary with surrounding housing.
3. In order to be compatible with the surrounding housing, the
new home(s) must have a floor area ratio, and height to the
ridge line that is no more than 10% more than the largest
and tallest home within 100 feet, of the proposed house;,
and within '1,000 feet of the proposed house on the same
street.
Section Z. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
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Draft 10-18-2012
ORDINANCE NO. 2012 -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING MINIMUM LOT SIZE
REQUIREMENTS IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.11. Subd. 5. is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 5. Requirements for Lot Areas and Dimensions.
A. Minimum Lot Area.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 9,000 square feet provided however, if
the lot is in a neighborhood as defined
in Section 810 of this Code, which has
lots with a median lot area greater
than 9,000 square feet, then the
minimum lot area shall be not less
than the median lot area of the lots in
the neighborhood.
B. Minimum Lot Width.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 75 feet, provided however, if the lot is
in a neighborhood as defined in
Section 810 of this Code, which has lot
with a median lot width greater than 75
feet, then the minimum lot width shall
be not less than the median lot width
of lots in the neighborhood.
C. Minimum Lot Depth.
1. Single Dwelling Unit. 120 feet, provided however, if the lot is
in a neighborhood as defined in
Section 810 of this Code, which has lot
with a median lot depth greater than
120 feet, then the minimum lot depth
shall be not less than the median lot
depth of lots in such neighborhood.
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ATTEST:
Debra A. Mangen, City Clerk James B. Hovland, Mayor
Please publish in the Edina Sun Current on:
Send two affidavits of publication.
Bill to Edina City Clerk
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do
hereby certify that the attached and foregoing Ordinance was duly adopted by the
Edina City Council at its Regular Meeting of , 2012, and as
recorded in the Minutes of said Regular Meeting.
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of , 2012.
City Clerk
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ORDINANCE NO. 2012 -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT REGARDING GRADING, DRAINAGE AND
RETAINING WALLS IN THE R-1 & R-2 ZONING DISTRICTS
The City Council Of Edina Ordains:
Section 1. Subsection 850.07. Subd. 7. is hereby amended as follows:
Subd. 7. Drainage, Retain Walls & Site Access.
1. Drainage. Existing drainage patterns shalt not be altered to
redirect water to adjacent properties. Surface water runoff shall
be properly channeled into storm sewers, watercourses, ponding
areas or other public facilities. All provisions for drainage,
including storm sewers, sheet drainage and swales, shall be
reviewed and approved by the city engineer prior to construction
or installation.
2. Retaining Walls. Retaining walls must be shown on a grading
plan as ;part of a building permit application. Plans must
demonstrate materials to. be used for the retaining wall.
construction. Retaining wafts taller than 4 feet require a building
permit, and must meet a three-foot setback.
3.. Site Access. Retaining walls shill not be constructed tor prevent
pedestrian access from front yards into rear yards. _
Section 2. This ordinance is effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
First Reading:
Second Reading:
Published:
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CITY OF EDINA MEMO
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Date: October 24, 2012
To: Planning Commission
From: Cary Teague, Community Development Director
Re: Zoning Ordinance Amendment Consideration:
Subdivisions that result in lots less than 9,000 s.f. in area and 75 feet width.
• Grading, drainage & retaining walls
As a following up to the September 4', 2012 Work Session with the City Council, the
Planning Commission is asked to again discuss the above two topics, and determine a path
on how to move forward getting public input on these topics.
Attached are the minutes from the Council Work Session. The City Council indicated that
it was not interested in pursuing an Ordinance that would allow a PUD in the R- I District.
They agreed with the Planning Commission that public meetings should be held to get
input from residents if changes are contemplated. Public input was also suggested on the
issue of grading, drainage and retaining wall usage.
Attached are draft Ordinances for each topic, based on direction from previous
discussions, to help facilitate conversation on two topics.
Also attached are the minutes, staff memos and draft Ordinances from our previous
discussions.
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