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EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1985 AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
I. Approval of the Minutes: June 25, 1985 and July 23, 1985
II. Introduction of New Member:
Mr. C.A. Stuppy
4624 Concord Terrace
III. Plan Review: Proposed dwelling 4528 Bruce Avenue South, Country
Club District, Fairway Section. National Register of Historic
Places.
IV. Report on HPC Conference, Red Wing, Minnesota
V. Wood Haven Senior Residence - Demolition of 5020 Summit Avenue
VI. Historic Markers Program
Philip and Jane Campbell Residence
5312 Interlachen Blvd.
Edina, Minnesota
VII. Cornelius House
6101 France Avenue South
VIII. Resolution of Appreciation for Foster Dunwiddie
IX. Other Business:
A. Study for New Historical Society Location
X. Next Meeting Date: November 26, 1985, 7:30 p.m.
XI. Adjournment
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1985, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice chairman Gordon Stuart, Tom
Martinson, John Childs, Gary Nyberg,
David Gepner and Cy Stuppy
STAFF PRESENT: Harold Sand
I. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Childs moved approval of the July 23, 1985 minutes
as presented. Mr. Gepner seconded the motion. All voted
aye. Motion carried.
II. Introduction of New Member
Mr. Cy Stuppy, 4624 Concord Terrace. Mr. Stuppy said
that he is retired as vice president of a small car sales
organization. He and his wife are interested in antiques
and he has been interested in the City's history since he
moved here 33 years ago.
III. Plan Review:
Proposed dwelling 4528 Bruce Avenue; Country Club
District, Fairway Section. National Register of Historic
Places.
Mr. Sand provided copies of building plans submitted by
Mr. John Eckley, designer on October 11, 1985 which
illustrate a 1 1/2 story French style with a hip roof and
copies of new plans submitted today illustrating a revised
English plan with a gable roof.
Mr. Eckley indicated that the dwelling is designed for
a customer who wishes to purchase the house. The customer
literally had a picture of a house in France that she wanted
to copy and the hip roof plans are the result of that
request. Subsequently, they located a suitable English
Tudor Revival dwelling at 3808 Drew Avenue South which was
used as a model for the revised plans submitted today. He
believes the house on Drew was constructed in 1928 by Carl
Hansen.
The proposed height of the dwelling has been reduced to
28 feet to the top of the east -west ridge and 26 feet to the
top of the north -south ridge. The house is 36 feet wide by
61 feet long. The exterior materials proposed include a
brownish brick on the front wall and chimney and partially
extending on the side walls. The remainder of the dwelling
will be light tan stucco and dark stained timbers. The
roofing material will be asphalt shingles with a burnt red
color which is common in the district.
8:00 P.M. Mr. Gary Nyberg joined the meeting.
Mr. Martinson inquired about the width of the driveway
and the apparent parking area proposed in front of the
dwelling. The Country Club District was developed with
typically narrow driveways, many shared with th adjacent
house and this prevents cars from parking in front of the
dwelling and preserves open vista in the front yards.. Mr.
Eckley indicated that they would agree to reduce the
driveway width to a single lane and provide a parking pad in
the rear similar to the earlier plans.
Mr. Eckley mentioned that the plan attempts to preserve
the large shade tree near the south-east corner of the
dwelling by providing a recessed area with a patio which
does not have a foundation.
Mr. Martinson asked if this was an exact copy of the
house on Drew or an adaptation. Mr. Eckley responded that
it is an adaptation, that the original is somewhat narrower
and somewhat taller.
Mrs. Pat Kitilson, 4529 Bruce Avenue and Mr. Chip
Mahon, 4530 Bruce Avenue were present and received copies of
the revised plans.
Mr. Martinson commented that the garage door would look
better as two single doors. The column near the front
entrance looks strange, perhaps it could be changed to a
gate which is common in the English Tudor Revival style. He
suggested that they look carefully at the first-rate tudor
designs for the best half-timber details. There is a huge
difference in the reveals on the timbers and a thick reveal
looks more authentic and rich. The half-timbering is also
done with careful attention to detail of intersecting
diagonals at the corners.
Mr Mahon asked about the total floor area proposed. Mr.
Eckley did not know the area.
The Board generally agreed that the plans were headed
in the right direction however, they required some
refinement. Mr. Eckley agreed to meet with Mr. Martinson
over the next few weeks to review the plans so the final
plans could be approved at the November 26, 1985 meeting.
Mr. Martinson moved to continue the item until November 26,
1985 and allow the developer to work with a sub committee
prior to that date to refine the plans. Mr. Stuppy seconded
the motion. All voted aye. Motion carried.
Mr. Eckley asked if it would be possible to get
approval prior to that date because they were anxious to get
started in advance of winter and frost difficulties. Mr.
Gepner indicated he would defer to Mr. Martinson in this
matter. The Board generally agreed.
Mr. Eckley indicated they wanted the house to appear as
if it has been there for 30 years. Mr. Nyberg moved to
approve the plans in concept and permit final plan review by
Mr. Martinson. Mr Childs seconded the motion.
IV. Redwing Conference for Minnesota Heritage Preservation
Commissions.
Mr. Nyberg indicated that he and Mr. Stuart attended
the meeting. The conference included sessions on conducting
a comprehensive survey, design review procedures and
archaeology and the HPC. My Nyberg indicated that Red Wing
has application forms and design review guidelines for
projects that are reviewed by the HPC. The City hires an
architect to review the proposal and submit an evaluation of
appropriateness which is sent to the HPC in advance of the
meeting. The review includes design review for signage in
the downtown commercial district.
Mr. Stuart added that they have many older buildings
and more potential for remodeling, our business district is
almost brand new.
V. Woodhaven Seniors Residence:
Demolition of 5020 Summit Avenue.
Mr. Sand indicated that the city was participating in a
redevelopment project to remove 3 dwellings and construct a
senior citizen residence. The dwelling at 5020 Summit
Avenue is one dwelling that will be removed and it is listed
in History and Architecture of Edina Minnesota as a
surviving structure erected 1900 to 1920. There is no other
reference to this structure. It is appropriate that the HPB
review the historic and/or architectural significance of
this structure because the demolition is the result of
governmental action and it is one of the structures listed
in the historic building survey.
Mr. Sand indicated that the staff believes that these
structures do not have any local or regional significance
and the project should proceed. Therefore, the staff
recommends that the Board make a finding that there is no
historic or architectural significance in these dwellings.
Mr. Martinson moved approval of the demolition. Mr.
Childs seconded the motion. All voted aye, motion carried.
VI. Historic Markers Program
Mr. Sand said that the City has received an easement
from Philip and Jane Campbell at 5312 Interlachen Blvd. for
the placement of a historic marker in the front yard. This
dwelling is listed in the History and Architecture of Edina,
Minnesota as an architectural significant dwelling built in
1880 in the Eastlake -style. The Campbells contacted the
City and expressed an interest in having a historic marker.
Mr. Sand said that Lois Wilder was working on the
historic markers program however, he has not received any
information recently.
Mr. Nyberg indicated that we should be careful to refer
to the house by it's historic name "Peterson House" rather
than the name of the current occupant. No further action
taken.
VII. Cornelius House, 6101 France Avenue South
Mr. Sand reported that the house was recently
demolished by Mr. Folke Victorsen, a local real estate
developer. After the structure was demolished Mr. Victorsen
applied for a subdivision and rezoning which is pending
before the City Council. No action taken.
VIII.Resolution of Appreciation for Foster Dunwiddie
Mr. Stuart read the resolution prepared by staff. The
Board generally agreed that the resolution should be placed
in a good frame and it would be nice if the City could do
more for Mr. Dunwiddie, in consideration of his substantial
contribution.
Mr. Martinson moved approval of the resolution. Mr
Childs seconded the motion. All voted Aye. Motion carried.
IX. A. Study for a new Edina Historical Society location
Mr. Sand said that the Historical Society museum was
displaced by the demolition of Wooddale School and the
Society has temporary facilities in a classroom at the Edina
Community Center. The City Council has commissioned Foster
Dunwiddie to survey and evaluate possible new permanent
facilities. Some suggestions have been the Grimes House
which is for sale, the Old St. Patrick's Church at W. 70th
Street and Cahill Road, or a new facility to be constructed
in Utley Park or Wooddale Park near West 50th Street and
Wooddale Avenue. Any comments or suggestions by the HPB
would be appropriate at this time. No action taken.
X. Next Meeting Date:
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November 26, 1985 at 7:30 p.m.
XI Adjournment:
Mr. Martinson moved adjournment at 9:45 p.m. Mr.
Childs seconded the motion. All voted Aye. Motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted,
Harold Sand �.