HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011 03-08 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularAGENDA
THE ANNUAL MEETING OF THE
_NA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
_ �ESDAY, MARCH 8, 2011, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL — COMMUNITY ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET, EDINA, MN
OPEN HOUSE — MORNINGSIDE BUNGALOW STUDY — 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m., City Hall Lobby
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: February 8, 2011
II. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT: Certificates of Appropriateness
H-10-6 4901 Sunnyside Rd. — Change to a COA — Approved, December 14, 2010
(Change to windows on rear elevation)
III. ELECTION OF OFFICERS: Chairman and Vice Chairman
IV. OPEN HOUSE EVALUATION:
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT:
* During "Community Comment" the Heritage Preservation Board will invite residents to share new issues or
concerns that haven't been considered in the past 30 days by the Board or which aren't slated for future
consideration. Individuals must limit their comments to three minutes.
*The Chair may limit the number of speakers on the same issue in the interest of time and topic. Generally
speaking, items that are elsewhere on tonight's agenda may not be addressed during Community Comment.
• *Individuals should not expect the Chair or Board to respond to their comments.
Instead, the Board might refer the matter to staff for consideration at a future meeting
VI. BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE: Change to reflect new Ordinances 1500 & 1504
VII. 2011 HERITAGE AWARD PREPARATION:
VIII. WOMEN'S HERITAGE (CLG) PROJECT: Update
IX. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Filming of City Meetings
B. New (Proposed) Ordinance — Special Setback Requirement for Single Dwelling Unit Lots in
Edina Heritage Landmark Districts — UPDATE
C. Neighborhood Street Signs
D. 2011 Work Plan
X. CORRESPONDENCE:
XI. NEXT MEETING DATE: April 12, 2011
XII. ADJOURNMENT:
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Joel Stegner, Chris Rofidal, Bob Schwartzbauer,
Claudia Carr, Colleen Curran, Ross Davis, David Anger, Katherine McLellan and
Lauren Thorson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jean Rehkamp Larson
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner
OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Consultant
New Member, David Anger was introduced to the Board.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: February 8, 2011
Member Curran suggested several changes to the minutes. The Board agreed with
• Ms. Curran's suggestions. Member Rofidal moved approval of the minutes from the
February 8, 2011 meeting as amended. Member Schwartzbauer seconded the motion.
All voted aye. The motion carried.
II. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT: Certificates of Appropriateness (COA)
A. H-10-06 4901 Sunnyside Road — Change to a COA issued 12-14-2010
Mr. Andy Porter of Refined, LLC, contractor for the subject new home explained that at the
December 2010 Heritage Preservation Board meeting a new home was approved and a
Certificate of Appropriateness was issued for 4901 Sunnyside Road. As the project has
proceeded into the framing phase, the buyers of the home have been able to better
visualize the views provided by the abutting Minnehaha Creek, especially from the
basement level. With this new vision in mind, they have requested the addition of three
small windows at the lower level walkout. Mr. Porter concluded that the additional windows
will add a great deal to the view of the creek from the lower level, however will be virtually
unseen from any of the adjacent properties.
Board members discussed the minimal impact the proposed change would have on the
home, especially since it will not be visible from the front street. Member Rofidal opined
that perhaps such a minor change should be handled administratively, and not brought
back to the HPB. Several board members agreed with Member Rofidal, but pointed out
that in the past they had determined that any change to a plan approved for a COA should
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be brought back to the HPB for review. There was agreement that in the future the Board
should consider establishing a policy that would allow the Planning Staff to administratively 40
approve changes such as the one under consideration, which are not visible from the street
and will not impact the historic integrity of the subject home, or those in the surrounding
area.
Following a brief discussion on the subject proposal, Member Schwartzbauer moved to
approve the change to the lower level of the rear elevation providing additional windows
facing Minnehaha Creek. Member Davis seconded the motion. All voted aye. The
motion carried.
Mr. Porter thanked the Board for allowing the additional windows on the rear of the
home. He added that since he had submitted the information for the additional
windows, his clients have asked that the rear walk -out design be reworked to provide for
look -out windows instead of the doors that were approved.
The Board agreed that changing the door to look -out windows on the rear elevation is
minor, and would not impact the historic integrity of the new home or the surrounding
homes. Member Rofidal moved for approval of the change to look -out windows on the
rear elevation. Member Curran seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion
carried.
111. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Planner Repya announced that as called for in the Bylaws, it was time to elect a
Chairman and Vice Chairman to serve a one year term.
Member Schwartzbauer moved to reappoint Joel Stegner to the office of Chairman, and
Claudia Carr to the office of Vice Chairman. Member Curran seconded the motion. No
other nominations were presented. Members Stegner and Carr agreed that they would
be willing to serve for a second term. The vote was taken. All voted aye. The motion
carried - Joel Stegner will serve as Chairman, and Claudia Carr will serve as Vice
Chairman for the next year.
IV. MORNINGSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN HOUSE: Evaluation
The Board agreed that they were pleased with the public turn -out for the open house.
Members enjoyed visiting with the Morningside residents and liked the visual materials
provided - particularly the "Anatomy of a Morningside Bungalow".
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT: None
VI. BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE: Change to reflect new Ordinances
1500 and 1504.
Planner Repya explained that the changes proposed for the Bylaws and Rules of
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Procedure are suggested to reflect the newly adopted Ordinances #1500 and 1504,
which define general provisions for all boards in #1500; and the make-up of the
Heritage Preservation Board in #1504 — replacing the previous ordinance #801. Ms.
Repya pointed out that when the HPB reviewed the new ordinances at the February
meeting, several areas for clarification and change were identified. She suggested that
since the City Council has already adopted the new code, the time to introduce potential
changes will be at the joint meeting with the Council which is tentatively planned for
Tuesday, May 3rd, at 5:00 p.m., prior to the City Council meeting.
The Board briefly discussed some of the items they would like to share with the Council.
Chairman Stegner suggested the subject be on the April 12th HPB meeting's agenda,
when the Board can prepare for the joint meeting.
Following a brief discussion, Member Curran moved approval of the proposed changes
to the Bylaws and Rules of Procedure, bringing the document into compliance with the
newly adopted Ordinances # 1500 and #1504. Member Davis seconded the motion. All
voted aye. The motion carried.
VII. 2011 HERITAGE AWARD PREPARATION:
Planner Repya reported that nominations for the 2011 Edina Heritage Award are open
until April 6, 2011. The Board will review the submitted nominations at the regular
meeting on April 12th and determine the 2011 award winner. A plaque recognizing the
winner will be presented at a City Council meeting during the month of May, which is
Preservation Month.
Notification of the nomination process has been issued in the Edina Sun Current, the
City's "City Extra" email distribution, and the Edina Chamber of Commerce's March
newsletter. An ad will also be included in the City's upcoming issue of the "About Town"
magazine. Ms. Repya concluded that to date, no nominations have been submitted,
and she encouraged the Board members to consider submitting a nominee on the forms
each of them received.
VIII. THE IMPACT OF WOMEN ON HERITAGE RESOURCES IN EDINA(CLG)
PROJECT: Update
Consultant Vogel provided the Board with a brief explanation of the work undertaken
thus far for "The impact of Women on Edina Heritage Resources" project. He pointed
out that the project, which began in October 2010 will continue until July 31, 2011 when
a final report is due to the Minnesota Historical Society (MHS). After the MHS has had
an opportunity to opine on the document, it will be submitted to the HPB for final
revisions and approval.
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Mr. Vogel explained that thus far, research has proven that early on, women were very
instrumental in formation of the Minnehaha Grange as well as the Morningside
bungalow movement, where several women contractors left their mark on the
neighborhood. He added that several women's clubs have had a marked impact on the
history of Edina, however today, there are no structures remaining that reflect the clubs'
roots. Mr. Vogel added that while there is no quantitative data, it appears that in the
1920's there were more women owned businesses in Edina, than there are today.
Following a brief discussion, Board members thanked Mr. Vogel for his report and
agreed that they looked forward to seeing the results of the study.
OTHER BUSINESS:
A. Filming of City Meetings — Survey/Feedback
Planner Repya reported that City Manager Scott Neal and the City Council have asked
for input from the Boards and Commissions regarding the filming of Board and
Commission meetings. They have asked the boards to respond to the following 4
questions. The HPB responses will be aggregated with the responses from the other
groups for ultimate discussion at the April 19t Council meeting
QUESTIONS:
1. Do you believe that filming your Commission meeting, and subsequently
rebroadcasting the filmed meeting on cable television would change the
manner in which commissioners or guests behave or participate in your
Commission meeting?
HPB Responses:
• Yes, the meetings become more formal and streamlined .... the tone is changed.
• Unless the meeting is filmed in the Council Chambers, it is difficult to provide
visuals for the TV camera, and public participation is awkward.
• Public comment can be compromised, with some people uncomfortable speaking
up/ and others speaking to the camera i.e. "grandstanding".
2. Do you believe there are circumstances where filming and rebroadcasting
your Commission meetings would not be in the public interest? If so, what
would be an example of such a circumstance?
HPB Responses:
• The Board did not identify a situation where filming or rebroadcasting would not
be in the public interest.
• If the decision is made to televise a Commission meeting, there should be no
deviation from that decision. "You can't pick and choose."
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3. Do you believe that filming and rebroadcasting your Commission meetings
is an important tool in communicating your Commission's activities and
discussions with the public?
HPB Responses:
• Yes, filming and rebroadcasting is the future .... how many people expect to
access information.
• Does the cost benefit warrant the financial expenditure? This might not be a
financially prudent tool if there are few viewers.
• Rarely does a member of the public attend the HPB meetings if not interested in
an agenda item, as evidenced in the lack of participation during the "Community
Comment" portion of the meeting.
4. Do you have any other input that you would like Scott Neal or the City
Council to consider when forming a policy on this subject?
HPB Responses:
• The HPB consists of 11 members and the configuration of the Community Room
makes it difficult to set up the room to provide for spectator space as well as a
place to provide visual information. (The screen is behind the area used for
spectator chairs.) If the chairs are moved to the perimeter of the room where
spectators can view the screen, Board members have their backs to the
spectators. Filming in this room would be impossible.
® B. New (proposed) Ordinance — Setback Requirement for Single Dwelling
Unit Lots for Edina Heritage Landmark Properties — Update
Planner Repya explained that the Planning Commission has continued the discussion
on the proposed change to the Zoning Ordinance that would exempt heritage landmark
properties from the side yard setback requirement of increasing the setback by 6 inches
for each foot the building height of the structure exceeds 15 feet. The Planning
Commission recognized that since a Certificates of Appropriateness is not required for
an addition to a heritage landmark property, if an owner were to take advantage of the
proposed exemption, there would be no check to ensure that the addition met the
criteria set out in the plan of treatment for the property.
The Planning Commission recommends that as part of the subject change to the Zoning
Ordinance, in the event the owner of a heritage landmark property were to take
advantage of the exemption to the side yard setback when adding an addition, the
Heritage Preservation Board require that the project receive a Certificate of
Appropriateness.
The Board briefly discussed the Planning Commission's suggestion and agreed that
requiring a Certificate of Appropriateness for an addition to a landmark property that
takes advantage of the side yard setback exemption was an excellent idea.
C. Neighborhood Street Signs
Planner Repya referred to an email exchange between City Manager, Scott Neal and
• the Morningside Neighborhood Steering Committee. In the email, the neighborhood
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steering committee requested that the City postpone any branding efforts for
Morningside until a City policy for neighborhood branding has been developed. Mr.
Neal assured the committee that the City would not proceed with the Morningside logo
at this time.
Following a brief discussion, the Board agreed that they would not consider a logo for
the Morningside neighborhood at this time. No formal action was taken.
D. 2011 Work Plan
Planner Repya explained that the 2011 Work Plan will be included on each meeting's
agenda to provide the Board an opportunity to evaluate the progress made on
established goals. All agreed that would be a worthwhile practice.
E. Southdale Mall — Potential for Landmark Designation?
Board members discussed the historic importance of Southdale Mall - being the first
enclosed mall in the country, and wondered if there has ever been consideration of
designating it as a heritage landmark property.
Planner Repya explained that in 1990, the HPB approached the mall regarding potential
landmark designation, and discovered that they were not interested, due to the
concerns that historic designation would restrict their ability to be competitive with
changes in the retail market over time. The owners at that time acknowledged the
importance of the mall's history; and as a concession, created a pictorial kiosk display
commemorating the development of the mall from a farm field to present day.
Apparently, the display is stored in the basement of the mall and periodically moved to
the garden court for the public to enjoy.
Discussion ensued regarding memorable furnishings on the mall's interior that reflect
back to its early days. Some of those items include the clock at the top of the escalator;
the clerestory windows in the garden court, the bird cages (which are apparently in
storage),a lantern sculpture, and a sculpture of children on stilts.
Member Anger pointed out that in his readings, he discovered that at the time Southdale
was built, 90% of the stores were locally owned — quite a change from the current day
occupancy.
Robert Vogel stated that while Southdale Mall is iconic, it would not be a manageable
historic resource.
Member Davis volunteered to talk to the Southdale management regarding the potential
for recognizing interior elements of the mall for historic designation. The Board thanked
Mr. Davis, pointing out that if nothing else, it would be good to know the mall's thoughts
on recognizing its history, and perhaps there is a way the HPB can work with them to
achieve a common goal.
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S IX. CORRESPONDENCE:
1. Article for Country Club District Newsletter
2. Email correspondence from a Morningside resident.
X. NEXT MEETING DATE: April 12, 2011
XI. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 8:55 pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joyce R.epya