HomeMy WebLinkAboutAppendix F_Mill Pond resident commentsSeptember 8, 2015
To The City of Edina,
Last year I phoned the City of Edina several times to discuss my objections as a non-
waterfront property homeowner to paying the same assessment for Minnehaha Creek Aquatic
Vegetation Harvesting as the residents who have waterfront property. As someone who lives
across the street from the creek the impact of the harvesting has a different impact on me than
those who have waterfront property. Last year when I voiced my concerns with city employees
I was told I should go to the designated City Council meeting in the fall to voice my objections.
During the summer I received a notification from the City of Edina regarding the date and time
of this meeting. I attended the meeting only to be told that although this was indeed the
meeting to protest the assessment, the City could not do anything about the assessment at this
time, it was too late for the City to make any adjustments and that the City would look into this
issue next year.
Earlier this year I phoned Chad Millner to inquire about the equity issue and was told it
would be discussed at a staff meeting during the summer. I followed up again a few weeks ago
and was able to speak to Jesssica Van Der Werff about the situation. Jessica informed me that
the survey I had just received from the City would be used to make a decision on whether to
assess non waterfront property owners the same as waterfront property owners for the aquatic
vegetation removal. When I pointed out to Jessica that nowhere on the survey does it mention
this issue, Jessica responded that the City would be using question #2 — ".... How would you rate
the overall value of the service compared with the price paid?" as the barometer for whether
non water front and waterfront property owners should be assessed the same amount. This is
absurd to me as this question has nothing to do with the issue of an equitable assessment.
Finding value in this service and the question of equity are two separate issues.
During my conversation with Jessica she also mentioned that the City has not assessed
people differently for services provided. I am not as familiar as others with all of the
assessments levied by the City but I do know of two assessments with differing assessment
values for different properties. The first was for the Highway 100 sound wall. Residents closer
to highway 100 were assessed a larger amount than those further away with the amounts
varying quite a bit. The second assessment that had varied amounts levied was the Country
Club water, sewer, curb, road project. The residents on Drexel and east were assessed a lower
amount than those on Wooddale Avenue and west.
It is true that some of us have a view of Minnehaha Creek from our homes because we
have Browndale Park across the street. I feel having Browndale Park across the street is a
privilege but that privilege comes with a price to it that I am not sure this committee is aware
of. Former Browndale resident Bill Horn organized the neighbors surrounding Browndale Park
in the late 1970's to maintain the park. This was well before the City came up with the Adopt-A-
Park program. We have had annual cleanups as well as worked during the year, especially
during the summer with its higher park usage, to make sure it is clean and picked up. In
addition to that, the neighbors surrounding the park have had, at their expense, the elms
treated for protection against Dutch Elm Disease. When we have lost trees, these same
neighbors have replaced trees. To date we have planted 5 Elms and one Buckeye. We have had
to water these trees since the city would not put them on the water schedule which meant
carrying buckets of water to the park from our homes. In the past we have had to pay for some
pruning on boulevard trees that the city did not deem hazardous but we did. All of these costs
have been out of our pockets with no reimbursement from the city.
In addition to the planting of trees we have also removed trees, buckthorn! We
removed Buckthorn from the steep waterfront area and more recently took out the bramble of
buckthorn near the lower park bench. Once the Buckthorn was removed we planted a garden.
Since we were not in the City budget we were not able to receive any plants or mulch. All of the
plants and mulch were provided by the residents that border the park. Again, we did not make
the City's list of areas to water on a regular basis so after a few weeks of the City letting us use
a portable water tank we again hauled water to water the plants. We continue to water and
weed this garden, which cannot be seen from any of our homes, it is something for the people
across the creek, on the creek and those sitting on the lower bench to enjoy.
One last item that I feel the City should know about is the cost of the fence removal in
Browndale Park that the properties bordering the park had to pay for. A few years ago the City
put a chain link fence up in the park when someone stepped off the park's low stone wall. The
City did this without any input from the residents or contacting the Browndale Park Association.
This chain link fence was an eyesore for anyone who looked at the park, not just those who
lived across the street. To have this fence removed we met with John Keprios who told us we
would have to pay to have the fence removed and the land graded so that the one foot step
down would be removed and the park would be safe for those walking through it. Again, those
of us living across from Browndale Park sent the money to the City to have the chain link fence
removed and the land graded.
I love where I live and am grateful to be across from Browndale Park and Minnehaha
Creek. I do feel strongly that it is wrong for the residents who do not live on the creek to be
assessed the same amount as those who live directly on the creek. I hope the City of Edina will
come to the same conclusion.
Thank you,
Becky Briggs
4509 Browndale Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
My name is Douglas Haugland. I have lived at 4901 East Sunnyslope Road for 54
years. I have seen the Mill Pond in good times and bad, low water and high. I have
even lost several trees along the pond due to high waters. I am told that during the
drought of the 1930s, they used pumps on the other side of highway 100 to fill the
pond.
I realize that we now have a new problem with milfoil and other invasive weeds.
The pond looks pretty good now in high water, but earlier this summer it was a
disaster. We have overcome bigger problems in the past. We have worked within
the DNR rules for years. We have become almost too paranoid about them. Both
the city management of the pond and the weed cutter we hire seem afraid to restore
the pond. An example are a few water lilies just beyond our home. The weed cutter
now is afraid to come within 100 feet or more of them. The last time the weed
cutter was here, he went up and down in the center of the pond once and then
pulled out, leaving behind many, many weeds. Vince used to ride with them and
show them how to trim the edges.
This talk of "we can't get too close to the shore" is new. We either have the wrong
company or they have the wrong equipment. We can live with the DNR rules and
still have a good-looking pond.
Please help change the look of the pond that we have had the last two years. Please
restore our Mill Pond with whatever it takes.
or 5 2015
\ CITY OF EDIIV
PLIPLIC, WORKS
October 6, 2015
Notice of Appeal on Aquatic Weeds Improvement No. AQ-15 for 4905 Browndale Ave., Edina 55424
Attention: The Clerk of the City of Edina
This will serve as our written appeal to the proposed assessment for our property at 4905 Browndale
Ave, Edina MN 554424 for $220.88.
This assessment has been ongoing for many years, and our property has NEVER had direct access to the
Mill Pond as it is across the street from the actual pond. During the summer months when the pond is
free of ice, the vegetation is so thick we cannot see the water at all. We do not feel that we should bear
any special assessment as our property is not adjacent to the pond and has no view.
Thank you for considering our request.
Doug and Renelle Nelson
4905 Browndale Ave.
Edina, MN 55424
DONNA HANBERY
4705 SUNNY SIDE ROAD
EDINA, MN 55424
October 12, 2015
COMMENTS ON MILL POND
ASSESSMENT AND MEETING
Ms. Jessica Van Der Werff
Water Resources Coordinator
Engineering Department
7450 Metro Boulevard
Edina, MN 55439
Dear Jessica Van Der Werff:
I am writing this letter to follow up on my participation in the meeting about the Mill Pond
harvesting and current assessment methods that took place on September 30, 2015.
I am writing to request that no change be made in the present method of assessing the 63 homes that
border, or have a direct view, of the creek and the Mill Pond area. I expressed my views at the
meeting, but I will summarize them below:
The biggest source of concern with the Mill Pond harvesting is the change in
practices and DNR enforcement that changed the removal of most of the vegetation,
to only "an area constituting 50 percent" of the 14 acres of the Mill Pond. For those
of us that live directly on, near, or with a view of the Mill Pond, the magnitude of the
weeds that can over grow and clog the Mill Pond can be overwhelming if not
removed. I have lived in my home, or stayed at this property, since I was born in
1952. Over the years, the water quality has degraded with more weeds, vegetation,
and "gunk" than when I was a child and would come to this home. But for the
periodic harvesting, the Mill Pond looks like a swamp.
• Based on the feedback you shared at the meeting, there have been very few people
objecting with the assessment. The biggest objection is the effectiveness of the 50
percent harvesting done twice a year.
With the exception of the two homes at 4905 and 4509, that have a view that is
obstructed by trees, every home that is on the creek, or across the road from the
creeks, has a view of the Mill Pond. The one assessment I would question the most
is why the property next to 4513, with a direct view of the creek, is not on the list of
assessed homes.
• Whether you are on the creek, or looking at the creek, looking at flowing water, as
opposed to a clog of weeds and stuck styrofoam, cans, logs and other garbage, affects
the quality of your home and your views from the street or your windows.
But for harvesting, the amount of gunk that gets stuck in the creek becomes a
harborage for bugs and more garbage. Whether you are on the creek, or near to it,
this is not desirable.
Ms. Jessica Van Der Werff
October 12, 2015
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In terms of fairness, I can recall the assessment that was imposed to build the sound
barrier wall along highway 100. Our house was assessed approximately $6,000.00.
(if I remember right, for that wall. When I attended a meeting with the engineers
about the wall, I was told that the wall would have little or no impact of the noise
experienced from homes that were more than 500 feet away from the wall.) Yet that
assessment was imposed on a broad area to presumably benefit all properties.
Once you start opening up the methods of assessment, you open up a significant can
of worms. For example, there was concern about areas that cannot be effectively
"harvested" by the machine. They may be in more shallow areas from time -to -time.
Most of these properties will still have a view of the rest of the creek. But if you start
dropping off properties, I would open the question for you to ask "why you are
assessing based on individual lot, rather than square footage along the creek?"
Although my home benefits as a home along the creek, our footage of shoreline is
probably a fraction of the overall footage if you were to start doing your assessment
based on linear feet of lot line next to the creek.
For all the reasons above, I would ask that you share a view with the counsel that virtually everyone
that attended the meeting on September 30, 2015, was comfortable with the present method of
assessment, but was predominately concerned about the limits of only harvesting 50 percent of the
area at a time. I got the sense from staff that this was a pretty hard and fast rule with the DNR. But
it is a crying shame that we now seem to have 50 percent more "gunk", and very little natural
vegetation, in most of the Mill Pond Area.
JBERY
L/C— 63 e"i
DEHinae 1012152
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Jessica Van Der Werff
From:Jessica Kelly <jess_442@yahoo.com>
Sent:Monday, October 05, 2015 8:08 PM
To:Jessica Van Der Werff
Subject:Mill Pond association
Hi Jessica,
I know my response is late as the community meeting occurred on Sept 30. I was
wondering if interest was expressed in forming an association group. That sounds like a
viable solution for the current situation with the pond management.
I'd appreciate any information you can relay from the meeting.
Best,
Jessica
4630 Edgebrook Pl
Jessica Kelly
612-986-0470
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Jessica Van Der Werff
From:Kathy Sandy <kathymsandy@yahoo.com>
Sent:Wednesday, September 30, 2015 5:39 PM
To:Andy Faris
Cc:Jessica Van Der Werff
Subject:Re: Creek and Millpond Meeting Tonight
Sweet of you to cc me on your reply Andy. I agree with you 100% and I do not even live on the
Millpond directly. I will do whatever it takes as well. I don't think an Association is such a bad thing
either, but I think it would be separate from our existing association because it would be made up
exclusively of residents who live on (or maybe across) from the Millpond or on Creek.
Thanks for supporting the Millpond.
Kathy Sandy
From: Andy Faris <andy.faris@hardware.com>
To: "jvanderwerff@EdinaMN.gov" <jvanderwerff@EdinaMN.gov>
Cc: Kathy Sandy <kathymsandy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:06 PM
Subject: Creek and Millpond Meeting Tonight
Hi Jessica,
I live on the Millpond and unfortunately I am unable to attend tonight’s meeting regarding the Creek
and Millpond.
I just wanted to put forth a few of my views relating to this topic:
1) It appears that the amount of weed abatement and control has been insufficient in the past several
years as the weeds have become an eyesore and much worse, in my opinion, than previous years.
2) We would be willing to pay more as a direct Millpond resident to assist in this effort.
3) I believe our neighborhood association might be willing to take over these efforts if necessary.
4) Having fewer weeds keeps property values high and provides a wonderful recreational outlet for
both residents and visitors.
Thank you for organizing the meeting. I look forward to hearing more in the future.
Best regards,
Andy Faris
4929 East Sunnyslope Road
(home) 952-926-8450
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Jessica Van Der Werff
From:Sarah Foster <sarahfoster47@gmail.com>
Sent:Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:17 PM
To:Jessica Van Der Werff
Subject:Aquatic vegetation meeting
We won't be able to attend this meeting, but I did want to express our opinion that even those living across the street
from the Mill Pond should be equally assessed. They enjoy the same views that we on the pond do, and actually never
run the risk of flooding!
We look forward to hearing the results of the survey.
Jim and Sarah Foster
4707 Sunnyside
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Jessica Van Der Werff
From:Sandy, Lewis G <lewis_g_sandy@uhg.com>
Sent:Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:12 PM
To:Jessica Van Der Werff
Cc:Kathy Sandy (kathymsandy@yahoo.com)
Subject:RE: Millpond report-clarification?
Thanks Jessica; there is also the same typo on pg 5.
On the substance of the recommendations:
We would support inclusion in the Lake and Pond Policy
We would support forming an association
We would support increasing the harvesting frequency to 3x/year
We would support the proposed new assessment adjustments
Thx, Lew and Kathy Sandy (4800 E. Sunnyslope)
From: Jessica Van Der Werff [mailto:JVanDerWerff@EdinaMN.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:02 PM
To: Sandy, Lewis G
Subject: RE: Millpond report-clarification?
Hi Sandy,
Staff is recommending that 4 properties on Sunnyslope Rd E be reduced, as is shown in Appendix G. Thanks for bringing
the typo to my attention – I have made the correction in the version that will be shared with City Council.
Jessica Van Der Werff, CFM, Water Resources Coordinator
952-826-0445 | Fax 952-826-0392
JVanDerWerff@EdinaMN.gov | www.EdinaMN.gov
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From: Sandy, Lewis G [mailto:lewis_g_sandy@uhg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Jessica Van Der Werff
Subject: Millpond report-clarification?
Hi Jessica, I read the new Millpond report with interest. On page 6, it says staff recommends 4 properties on Sunnyside
have a reduced assessment, but in the Appendix G map, looks like you mean Sunnyslope‐can you clarify? Thx, Lew
Sandy (4800 E. Sunnyslope)
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