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Ss Public Works Site Small Area Guide
Community Workshop
Edina City Hall
21 April 2010
7:00 to 9:00 p.m.
Agenda
Welcome and introductions 10 minutes
The Small Area Guide Process 10 minutes
'The Public Works Site Area 5 minutes
Purpose of the Workshop 5 minutes
Workshop Exercises 60 minutes
Exercise One: Issues
Exercise Two: Susceptibility to change
Exercise Three: Ideas
Exercise Four: Naming
Reporting 20 minutes
Public comments and questions 10 minutes
Next Steps 2 minutes
Adjourn
Upcoming meetings
Open House 26April 2010
7:00 to 9:00 p.m.
City Hall
Planning Commission Update J8April JO10
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City Hall
Joint City Council/Planning Commission Work Session 18 May 2010
5:09&o7:00pm.
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Works Site Small Area Guide,
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MEETING MINUTES
Public Works Site Small Area Guide Process
Community Meeting
Wednesday, April 21, 2U1O. 7:O0'9:0Opnm
_ Edina City Hall Chambers
City Staff Present:
Heather Worthington, Assistant City Manager
The following CAT Members wore 'resent:
Kevin Staunton, Chair
Chris Rofidal
BobShmdduok
Ellen Jones
Sue Davison
Gene Persha
Mike Platteter
Lisa Diehl
Steve Buss
Richard Borland
Josh Sprague
Linda Odell
Larry Cheslter
Kim Montgomery
Greg Domke
Andy Brown
Design Team Present:
Mike Fischer
Peter Sussman
Council Members Present:
Mayor Hovland
Ann Swenson
Joni Bennett
Others Present:
Peyton Robb
Wayne Wenger
Stefan Ho|8eson
Brenda Quaye
Linda Lorenz
Tom Bonneville
David Davison
Nancy Peterson
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Introduction
Chair Staunton called the meeting to order at 7:05 pm and gave a brief update on
the new Public Works facility and an overview of the public works small area
guide plan process to date.
Chair Fischer said that this evening there will be four group exercises; "Fun
Work" for the attendees to participate in. They are as follows:
1. Issues
2. Susceptibility to Change
3. Ideas
4. Naming
Chair Fischer announced that this evening the attendees will break into groups
and as a group submit their comments to be shared on each exercise.
Table Highlights:
Table 1. Stephan Helgeson, Kim Montgomery and Larry Chestier.
Spokesperson, Stephan Helgeson.
Stephan Helgeson
- Retain & Enhance
- Transit opportunities
- Northing is sacred. Buildings have turned over during the last 50
years and will continue to do so
- Workability
- Green Development
- Medium Density
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Public land is retained and enhanced (including easements).
2. Multimodal transit opportunities — leverage unique characteristics.
3. Capture untapped potential for this area to be a real "town center"
4. Improve walkability in the area.
5. Medium-density green development
Table 2. Brenda Quaye, Linda Odell, Josh Sprague and Joni Bennett.
Spokesperson, Linda Odell
Linda Odell
- Lack of central anchor
- Need pedestrian facilities
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- Traffic congestion
- Lack of retail diversity
- Look at transportation long term
- Develop design aesthetics
n/end of public works site lends itself well to a parking ramp/trans.
Hub/light rail
s/end open area
- Relocate bus garage, multi-use building
- Lose Mr. Steak building. Raise up Vernon Avenue businesses.
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Lack of central parking, east and west of railroad and under parked.
2. Lack of pedestrian infrastructure, circulation and connectivity.
3. Traffic congestion.
4. Lack of retail (variety) "Take Out", "Dining".
5. Consideration of"Long Term" Regional Public Transportation needs and
plans.
6. Lack of design aesthetic like 5Oth & France.
Table 3. Greg Domke, Peyton Robb, Andy Brown and Wayne Wenger
Spokesperson, Greg Domke.
Greg Domke
- Redevelop around Jerry's. Jerry's is the anchor.
- Retain Jerry's and City Hall
- Build ramp north side public works bldg/connect w/existing ramp
- Everything else open to redevelopment
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Not pedestrian friendly. Not a gateway.
2. Preserve transit hub space, ramp for future needs and more parking.
3. Traffic flow for cars not great.
4. More/rebuild bus garage
5. More parking
Table 4. Gene Persha, Peter Sussman, Sue Davison and David Davison.
Spokesperson, Gene Persha
Gene Persha:
- Transportation Hub -- light rail, transit stop, biking accessibility
- Clover leaf/landscaping need upgrade
- Pedestrian access/bicycle friendly
- Short term vs. long term. Short term more problematic —green
space. Long term — buildings.
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- ? because the present use is public does this mean a public use in
• the future?
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Area dominated by cars.
2. Internal and external disconnection (islands)
3. Proximity to RR line and Highway 100 — assets.
4. Character for community-- commercial-preserve.
5. Bike pedestrian unfriendliness
6. Topography
Table 5. Lisa Diehl Jim Miller and Nancy Peterson. Spokesperson Lisa
Diehl
Lisa Diehl:
- Transportation
- Pedestrian/bike unfriendly
- Area is not guided — lack of connectivity
- No community identity
- Maintain vehicle ribbon along Vernon Avenue - mixed use, have
development be formed by Vernon Avenue, circulation, parking to
take place internally emphasizing pedestrian focus/green link
- Make connections to OLG, Grandview better.
- Community Center in middle for connectivity to 50th/France via
Eden Avenue
- Stronger link to 50th and France. Consider a City intramodel shuttle
from this area to 50th and France.
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Transportation — fragmented physically and functionally.
2. Not pedestrian/bike friendly.
3. Area not guided
4. Lack of connectivity
5. Community identity lacking
Table 6. Kevin Staunton, Lynda Lorenz, Richard Borland and Steve Buss.
Spokesperson, Kevin Staunton
Kevin Staunton:
- Gathering Space — Pedestrian friendly plaza
- Leverage — keeping it as leverage for future changes, rather than
keeping it only as a public use.
- City Hall, OLG, Washburn McGreevy, Senior Center/Library
Grandview Tire & Auto all permanent.
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- Jerry's, Davanni's, etc. may change (good businesses now)
- Connect library/Sr. Center to City Hall
- Eliminate "goofy" Eden off ramp by Eden Avenue Grille
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Traffic/Transportation / Infrastructure.
2. Pedestrian friendliness.
3. Gathering Space
4. Transit
5, Leverage?
Table 7. Mike Platteter, Chris Rofidal, Bob Shadduck, Ellen Jones and
Tom Bonneville. Spokesperson, Mike Platteter,
Michael Platteter:
- Transportation is the biggest piece
- Area isn't pedestrian friendly
- Geographic limitations
- Image— structures are outdated
- Gateway into this part of Edina. What do you see? Does it reflect
the community?
- Marketability— Mixed use
- Ownership issues
- Bus garage and public works building = potential
- Everything is wide open
- Parkland/community gardens
- Community Center, health club/above/below residential or office?
Written Comments via Work Sheet. List the five issues discussed by your group:
1. Transportation: Uncertainty of future use of 100 and MnDot or other sites,
lack of connection to rest of site, accessibility by bikes, pedestrians.
2. Geographic restrictiveness: Geographic boundaries pose limitations, the
grade changes.
3. Image: some structures are out-dated and do not fit with the quality of
Edina.
4. Ownership of several parcels of land and not easily redeveloped
5. Marketability: Residential, local hub
Idea card sheets were also collected. They contained the following: Draw,
describe, or otherwise communicate your idea
• Create a greenway over the railroad tracks between the parking ramp
creating a tunnel effect over the rail line.
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• Put in a recreation center in the area providing exercise space, community
meeting space on some level.
• If school district wants to keep buses centrally located put buses
underneath at the lowest level of a sight being redeveloped with public
parking over that, with residential and/or office on top. This would go over
public works site.
Participants were also encouraged via a Naming Card to name the study area:
Names suggested were as follows:
JEDA (Jerry's Edina Development Area)
Edina Gateway
Eden Center
Bridges over Edina
Arcadia
The Bridges
Edina Town Square
Edina West
Future Zone
Brookside Hollow
The Eye (picture of eye for eye) of Edina
Edina Hub
ETC (Edina Transit Center)
Eden Heights
Arcadia Hills
Edina City Center
Edina Greenway
Grandview Commons
The Danen District
The Crossroads
Edina Crossroads
The Bridges
Prospect Park
Grandview
The Edina Crossing
Chair Staunton announced that Thursday's meeting would begin at 6:30 pm, not
7 pm. Jack Broz would try to come to the Design Team meeting at 2:00 on
Friday.
Meeting adjourned at 9:00 pm
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Workshop Guide
Exercise One
Issues
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The Small Area Guide process represents the beginning of a planning process that
considers the future of the study area. At this point,focus needs to be directed toward
identification of the key issues that surround the area's future so that some level of
resolution can begin to be framed as a part of the Small Area Guide process.
Working with your group, think about the issues facing the study area. Then, using the
large "Issues"sheet at your table, record what your group believes to be the five most
significant issues. While there are certainly more than five issues, the Small Area Guide
process is directing attention to finding agreement on the broader issues and possible
resolution, knowing that more specific issues might be best resolved in a process that
allows more time, and that recognizes agreement around brood issues first.
Exercise
Two
Susceptibility to change
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A part of the presentation about the study area demonstrated the dramatic change the
area has seen since the 1940s,where nearly every parcel saw some change in use or
pattern. Looking ahead,we might be able to envision those patterns of change
continuing, but it's only with hindsight that we are able to recognize how significant
those changes were.
In this exercise,your group will assess the study area parcels for their susceptibility or
resistance to change. Some considerations for assessing parcels might include:
• A building on a parcel is occupied with a use that is stable,or a building is vacant
or the parcel is for sale;
• A use on a parcel conforms to current zoning, or the use demonstrates a lack of
conformity with current zoning;
The use on a parcel supporting a vision for the future of the area,or the use
diminishing the potential for achieving a vision;
• The parcel or its use positively influences those parcels surrounding it,or the
parcel or its use negatively influences nearby parcels;
• The structure and/or infrastructure on a parcel is solid and in a condition
suitable for continued use,or the structure and/or infrastructure on a parcel is
obsolete;or
• Access to the parcel supports its use without detriment to the local street
network, or access to the parcel is not sufficient to serve its use or the access
interferes with the local street network.
There are,of course, many other considerations that might be applied in your group's
assessment of parcels in the study area.
Labeling a parcel as susceptible does not mandate change, and indicating that a parcel is
stable is not a guarantee that it will not change. Ultimately, it's more important to look
at the patterns that result from this exercise rather than a response for a specific parcel.
Use the red marker to highlight those parcels that your group feels are susceptible to
change. Use the green marker to highlight those parcels your group feels are resistant
to change. For some parcels,susceptibility or resistance to change is difficult to assess;if
your group cannot reach a conclusion for a parcel, you may choose to leave it blank. If
there are clear reasons for your designation of a parcel as susceptible or resistant to
change,please note them directly on the map.
Exercise Three
Ideas
It would be unusual to find someone who has not thought about how the study area
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might be a better place—whether it's the transportation patterns or mobility when
you're not in a car, an interesting use, beautification of a building or parcel,or the
addition of some feature that is currently missing. As we begin the Small Area Guide
process, it's reasonable that we begin sharing a vision for what the area might someday
become. It begins with ideas--some small and incremental,and some that may be big
and revolutionary. At this point in the process, all are fair to be considered.
Working with your group, think about ideas that might be key in transforming the study
area. Describe your group's idea using the "idea Cards"at your table(with one idea per
card). Indicate how your idea relates to the issues that might be important, assess the
reality of your idea(ideas that are "way out there"ore welcome in this exercise),and the
obstacles that might be encountered if this idea were to be implemented. Draw,
diagram, describe, or somehow articulate your idea—and then give it a name. There is
no limit to the number of ideas your group might generate.
Exercise Four
Naming
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Edina is a community with great neighborhoods,great parks,and great places—and
they all have names,either by acclamation or custom. As we look at the study area, its
name is not so readily apparent—or that may not even be a recognized name. Looking
ahead,it's hard to envision an evolution without it becoming a better--or even a
great—place. But it needs a name.
Working on your own, think of a name that could be applied to the study area—giving it
a greater sense of place simply because it has achieved a recognizable name. Record
your idea of a name on the "Naming"card and make sure to turn it in at the conclusion
of tonight's workshop.
Thank you for your input!
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Exercise One
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Name the Study Area — Exercise
From the April 21, 2010 Community Meeting
• JEDA (Jerry's Edina Development Area)
• Grandview Heights (8)
• Edina Gateway
• Eden Center
• Bridges over Edina
• Arcadia
• The Bridges (1)
• Edina Town Square
• Edina West (1)
• Future Zone (1)
• Brookside Hollow
• The Eye (picture of eye for eye) of Edina
• Edina Hub
0 ETC (Edina Transit Center)
• Eden Heights
• Arcadia Hills
0 Edina City Center
• Edina Greenway (1)
• Grandview Commons (5)
O The Danen District
• The Crossroads
• Edina Crossroads
• The Bridges
O Prospect Park
• Grandview (1)
• The Edina Crossing (2)
• Grandview Crescent (1)