HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 16, 2011 Business and Property Owners Workshop Notes Business and Property Owners Meeting
November 16, 2011
Attendees:Colin Bertleson, Kim Montgomery, Peter Sussman, Bruce Jacobson, Kevin Staunton,Cary
Teague,Andrew Dresdner, Mike Lamb
KM—if you are funneling all traffic to a new one way enterance south of INterlachen, it seems like we
are creating a big knot at one location.
ML—proof in the pudding when Walgreens opens up.
B1—optimum is if Walgreens is not there.This is imperfect, but the best of 12 possible scenarios.
CB—likes one way movement around the block. However the pinch points are still there.
BJ—Street with parking behind Walgreens. Possible full block deck across rail. Bridge then tunnel.
KM—can we see Antonios images for Vernon?
ML—potential for on street bikes on Vernon. Distinction between bike path and bike street.
KM—the sole NS connection is Arcadia?
BJ—Hills (Eden and Arcadia)are a welcome challenge.
BJ—intentionally use the term Bike Facility because it is about more than lanes and paths.
KM—only bike store in Edina—Edina Bike—is going out of business.
KS—GV would be a good location for a bike shop
BL—Public Realm Diagram will change because it does not indicate the import of the public street.
PS—Eden Ave is not shown on the Public Realm Diagram. People are more likely to use it than a ped
bridge.
ML—also this diagram mixed Public an Private—needs to be distinguished
ML—Commons is a programmed and active space. We are beginning to define the uses and activities in
the Commons. How do we address them from a program and user standpoint. Image of Community
building on a green is an idea we believe is important. It may shift and evolve but the basic idea is that it
is a building on a green.The building can hold archives and artifacts of the area.
Commons with a small glass transparent pavilion. The building is a part of the green and not vice cersa.
Grandview steps. Series of stairs and landing. People use steps as gathering places.
KS—the go to uses and stay need to clustered together. Today they are spread out. . However Davannis
and CSM sites need to be figured out.
Park and ride
ML= Options: 1. lease a surface lot; 2. east side at cloverleaf, 3. use existing ramp,
KS:4. existing bus barn site, 5.triangle if you vacate the danger ramp, 6. continue hide and ride.
KM—are there funds available to build a garage?
ML—don't know.
BJ—their basis is likely what it will cost to build a surface lot, not a structure
CN—can the City hold onto that$ and use it later.
KM—daytime weekday parking for a Comm Center is needed—we cannot think of CC as only a weekend
building.
PS—can you ID certain uses and better understand their peak/off peak parking uses. Shared parking
formula.
CB—can we talk to Met Council about adding to the existing ramp for their P and ride.Then parking
created on PW site is just for Community building and public events and local development.
ML—Sustainability
CB—organic recycling goes to backyard compost. Can we develop a centralized composting operation in
Grandview?
BJ—Grandview Works might do this.
KM—Energy and=Commission is pushing businesses to do more recycling.
BJ—this opens up a larger discussion and more opportunities. Solar arrays over parking. Stormwater is
most advanced but still needs to be more purposeful. Ramsey is creating a lake that is 100%capture.
How far do you go with these systems. 60%to heat and cool buildings. Possible new guidelines address
all construction.
KS—OLG is an enormous space that could be used for Geothermal.
B1—There needs to be a well thought through and deleveloped District Sustainability Plan.
KM—Edina signed the mayor's agreement for Climate Change.
KS—GV is a perfect place to measure sustainability. It is finite and measureable.
BJ—the public sets the stage/table, however the private sector will bring the innovation and the
application and implementation. A District systems approach both raises the bar of expectation and
reduces the cost to developers. Grandview Works has already begun—it is the water treatment in the
public ramp.
ML—would the local businesses respond to a comprehensive approach to waste.
CB—some look at it as the right thing to do even if it is not easy. National businesses are beholden to
headquarters.
BJ—we have been patient with the sustainability discussion b/c there have been so many other issues to
resolve, but it is something that we need to advance with the Steering Committee
KM—you should engaged the Energy and Environment Commission.
PS—talk a moment about the service level—along the tracks? Ramp from Eden to City Garage?
CB—we do not access the ground/basement floor. CSM rents the space to a construction co.
ML—City has an at grade crossing that is used as a back door crossing to PW Site. Proposing to ramp up
from Eden to the second level of the garage.
B1—ground floor of the public ramp can be GV Works.