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Steering Committee Notes
November 17, 2011
`Go To' and 'Stay At' uses:
• Do we want to limit Go To uses?
• The Crossing Street may set an edge to these uses
• What do we mean by"Stay at"?
• Maintain (or increase)a base of existing"Go To"uses.
• One of the main reasons people come here
• Change happens...make a plan to address this
• Be able to park once and make multi-trips
• Drive thru and no drive thru...how to deal with this
• Segregating things and measuring net change
• timing is also important
• Integrating"Go To"more with public space
• Auto oriented and Pedestrian oriented
• Big box here? NO! How to voice this in the plan
Park 'n Ride
• Metro Transit is very interested in the Grandview District; including funding help for
structured parking
• Sequencing is key; act on this now because of willing partner
• city-owned property may be more feasible
• But East side might also serve City Hall needs
• Located where ridership needs are best met
• Off-ramp to Arcadia is free land...
o Even partial free land should be considered—not big enough,but could you
get enough land to make this work?
• Any capacity for Park 'n Ride at the existing city ramp
• Add a level to the existing city ramp
• Current uses of this—Public works and is there"Structure"enough to support more
floors of parking
• Need more facts about this
Capacity; Usage;Ability to add more
• Shared facility for Park 'n Ride and bus storage at cloverleaf
• Bus storage site is too valuable for Park 'n Ride
• Public works and city ramp may be best...Need more info.
• Metro Transit interested in shared Park 'n Ride with bus storage
• Access to and from Public Works site
o Pedestrian conflicts;traffic etc.
• Maybe mid-block Arcadia entrance to parking @ public Works
• Don't preclude future rail transit parking needs
• Should also include the MnDOT circle
• Arcadia ramp dimensions
• Streets,right sizing bikes
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• Vacated ramps...by the Grille.
• Connection off Eden to jerry's
• Does this plan conform to"living streets"?
• The crossing should be 2 way
• Favor 3 lane on Vernon
• Additional parking we get
• Crossing has bike lanes not parking
• ROW along rail/Brookside for bikes
• Eden bridge improvements
o What,timing
• Great lighting,sparkly lights; also 50`h
• Bike access and connections N/S
• Truck access behind Walgreens
• Vacate ramps
• Southbound ramp from 100 to connect with Arcadia
• The Roundabout and the Ellipse about(The Egg)
• "Not every mode on every road"
• Consider keeping the Arcadia ramp
o Don't throw it away yet.
Phasing
• Consider sequencing on this
• Vernon Ave included
Public Works Site—Land Use Etc.
• Don't want residential here...preclude future ops.
• Important to mix uses here...vibrant 24 hour city.
• Not 50 acres...
o Just 3 1/2 acres.
• Balance in terms of finance
• Multi-story housing(not single family)...
o Adding more cars
• Traffic management issues
• Don't want to see this demarcation
o Boring...work with housing types
o with more integration with green.
o Big"T"over city ramp
o Like the photograph of Toronto
o Parking underneath is generally O.K.—hidden, but safe. Consider this for
women.
• Not sure the green goes on top
• Back to the drawing borad.
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