HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 12, 2011 Visioning Exercise Please note: This document has been pulled from the Steering
Committee Notes from May 12, 2011. Same information
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I. Grandview Visioning Ideas Exercise:
Michael Schroeder addressed the Committee and asked them to refer to
the handout sheets provided titled "Grandview Ideas". Schroeder
suggested that the Committee break into groups and as a group fill out
the exercise sheet; limiting one idea to each sheet. Schroeder suggested
thinking big and outside the box on this exercise. Also, be creative and
articulate your ideas. Schroeder reminded the members that their ideas
should tie back to the 7 Guiding Principles and would also make their
way to the consultants the committee retains.
Kevin Staunton allotted time for the exercise with regrouping and
sharing of ideas after the exercise was complete.
Idea Name and Supporting Description if Provided:
Heights Appropriate to Context-Grandview Square and Jerry's
Offices
Peyton Robb, Sue Davison, Bernie Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Fill in the excavated hill as starting point (public works) and build
up from there. Define "tall" as higher than 4-stories = limit.
Broad Dynamic District Wide Vision
Peyton Robb, Sue Davison, Bernie Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Keep broad scale in mind.
Parking Structure @ Public Works - Park Above
Peyton Robb, Sue Davison, Bernie Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Transportation below grade (potentially including school buses)
Encourage Large Development
Peyton Robb, sue Davison, Bernie Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Medical complex, large office complex, transportation hub. Also
accommodate small business and neighborhood needs. A
transportation hub requires a larger development to justify the
cost of the transit facility. This district can be an employment
center.
Retain Diversity of Business Site
Peyton Robb, Sue Davison, Bernie Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Support small business - incubator
Small Business Zone that can serve the Community and be an asset
to the Community. Peter Sussman, Jim Baisch
• Unique businesses that can create jobs. Businesses that are best
run on a small scale can blend in with the surroundings.
(Arts/Crafts Bookstore (Specialty))
• In Planning Stage make room for small business to coexist with
the large businesses
Density Sufficient to Support Bridging within the District
Peyton Robb, Sue Davison, Berne Beaver, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Vision requires framework. Framework provides opportunity.
Small Town feel
Incorporate Sustainability and Long-Term Planning
Peyton Robb, Bernie Beaver, Sue Davison, Jim Baisch, Peter Sussman
• Use Demographic study results. e.g. desirable housing for young
families.
• Use Sustainability Principles (e.g., The Sustainable Sites Initiative)
Town Square-Civic Center-Targeted Retail/restaurant/office
James Justice
• Attractive, unique, "old feel" design. Encourage business with
lower vehicle turnover. Keep it local!
Public Space/Plaza Area
Andy Brown, Dave Davison, Lisa Diehl, Rich Borland, Larry Chestler
• Iconic design feature - Sculpture garden, gazebo, band-shell,
gathering open areas. Internal//External
Expanding and Supporting the Business Hub
Andy Brown, Dave Davison, Lisa Diehl, Rich Borland, Larry Chestler
• Supporting additional growth of existing business and services.
• Identity of Grandview Neighborhood Trade Area
• Support of future demands - more restaurants and service
businesses.
Transit
Andy Brown, Dave Davison, Lisa Diehl, Rich Borland, Larry Chestler
• Dan Patch (slow train, with linkage to other connectors/stations)
• Unintended consequences of southwest rail. Would help avoid
people going to other transit stations going thru Edina
neighborhoods to get to SW light rail.
Use Topography as your Friend Part I and II
Arne Cook
• Part 1 was an illustration
• Part 2 - Put all parking transit oriented in lower levels and public
purpose on top levels with easy access to Highway 100
• Design ingress egress similar to transit area and parking lots A B
& C between Target Center and Target Field off of 394
Land Physical Data Needs
Arne Cook and Tom Bonneville
• For all the area: provide topography and grading plans for as-
built, surveys, plats, site plans, all road and existing utilities
• For the public works area, provide topo, grading, utility layout, as-
built building plan, soils report. Environmental Report, elevation
data for adjacent buildings across tracks and others.
• Data from Transportation Committee - RR use, heights, frequency
of trips, row rights, interest in a 1st floor transit stations.
Put a Lid on It Arne Cook
Reconfigure access lanes to 100 and cover highway 100 to "create"
three new acres of land in Edina - Green space - free up other adjacent
land for development.
Town Center - Mixed Use
Tom Ruppert and group
• Development (higher density) connecting Grandview
Development to City Hall
• Residential high rise vs. no high rise (8 stories)
• Office
• Retail, long term, not stop and shop
• Minimize public expense
• Look to Centennial Lakes model
• Designed to appeal to the immediate community-not a destination
Intergenerational Community Center with parking ramp building
into hillside
Kim Montgomery, Gene Persha, Steve Buss, Bright Dornblaser
• Intergenerational Community Center with the following:
1. A green roof
2. An outdoor café on the roof
3. Meeting rooms
4. Performance spaces
5. Gym including basketball court/running track
6. Rental spaces
7. Training spaces
8. Retail spaces in the bottom (smaller retailers/service
businesses)
Connecting Neighborhoods with Bikes and Walkers/Aesthetically
Pleasing
Boulevard - illustration
Kim Montgomery, Gene Persha, Steve Buss, Bright Dornblaser
Performing Arts & Cultural Center
Linda Urban, Terry Ahlstrom, Laura Giertsen
• Would include an auditorium, gallery space, meeting and
educational rooms. Could also be utilized and marketed as a
convention site. Edina needs a larger auditorium than the H.S. -
for example, we rent Northrup auditorium for graduation
exercises.
• If a performance space was there, I think community theater
groups would flock to it. Bloomington Performing Arts Center is a
good example.
"For Different Reasons at the Same Time" - A Performing Arts and
Cultural Center
Terry Ahlstrom, Linda Urban, Laura Giertsen
• A full service venue for plays, concerts, speakers, showcase for
arts that would be a drawing card for people of all ages in our
community. It would fulfill a need that is currently NOT MET AT
ONE SPOT,
Pool/Community Center T. Ahlstrom, L. Urban, L
• Updated version of Edinborough with more of a teen/family
center.
• Incorporate sports uses (pool, work out facility) with cultural
opportunities (small room facilities, auditorium)
• Please for people with all interests.
• Big need in City for more pool space, all pools are booked
everyday day/night after school
Rooftop/Outdoor Space/Promenade. T. Ahlstrom, L. Urban, L
• Take advantage of any height to get outdoor setting - view of
skyline.
• Use "covering" railroad as old fashioned tree lined promenade for
people to gather. Enhance with sculptures/
• Pedestrian Flavor throughout site - connecters exterior and
interior (skyways)
• Social/random interactions
Pedestrian and Traffic Flow T. Ahlstrom, L. Urban, L
• Re-route traffic and entrance ramps, perhaps eliminating Gus
Young Drive and/or other roads, minimize need for pedestrians to
cross traffic would like to see meandering sidewalks with
benches, gardens, sculpture, gazebo with businesses and
restaurants fronting on it.
Fix Gus Young Lane - The Z turn needs to be fixed. Gene Persha
• Illustration plus: 1) change RR Bridge 2) alter roadway through
there. 3) get rid of the right turns
Central Atrium Mixed Use Facility
Sandy Fox, Chris Rofidal, Darcy Winter, Greg Domke
• Turn the outside in - secondary option (2-sided store fronts)
• Internal Transportation corridor for the district (a connector with
connector to City Hall)
• Service/Retail/Small Business
• Flexible spaces that can be used for business (startup)
• Rehearsal spaces - recitals
Sheets with Untitled Idea Names:
Diane Reinhart - Remove school bus garages and relocate. Tear down
City garages for mixed use commercial/residential. No large residential
high-rises. Try to look like Centennial Lakes but not as dense. Don't
become 50th and France! Let that be the downtown!
Ken and Adele Floren - We want the area to be developed such that we
have a very effective combination of park like areas (i.e. public financed)
and attractive commercial/office use (i.e. privately financed) such as
Centennial Lakes Area*. The commercial should not include any more
short turnover businesses (i.e. fast food, dry cleaning, liquor store, etc.).
We want to draw mostly locally not be a destination point for a large
area.
*No high-rise
Staunton invited a representative from each group to briefly share their
"vision" and place their work sheets on the "sticky wall".