HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-08-13 Park Board PacketAGENDA
CITY OF EDINA, MINNESOTA
PARK BOARD MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Tuesday, August 13, 2013
7:00 P.M.
"THIS MEETING WILL BE TELEVISED"
CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
IV. ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approval of Minutes — Regular meeting on Tuesday, July 9, 2013
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
During "Community Comment, " the Park Board will invite residents to share relevant
issues or concerns. Individuals must limit their comments to three minutes. The
Chair may limit the number of speakers on the same issue in the interest of time and
topic. Generally speaking, items that are elsewhere on tonight's agenda may not be
addressed during Community Comment. Individuals should not expect the Chair or
Board Members to respond to their comments tonight. Instead, the Board might refer
the matter to staff for consideration at a future meeting.
VI. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
A. Strachauer Park Sidewalk, Parking and Storm Water Management Proposal
B. 2013 Park Board Work Plan Update
C. Centennial Lakes Promenade Final Phase
D. 2013 Quality of Life Survey Results
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
A. Council Updates
B. Braemar Arena Priority Use Policy Correspondence
C. Other Correspondence
D. Veteran's Memorial Committee, April 19, 2013 Minutes
VIII. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
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X. ADJOURNMENT
The city of Edina wants all residents to be comfortable being part of the public process. If you need
assistance in the way of hearing amplification, an interpreter, large -print documents or something,
please call 952-927-8861 72 hours in advance of the meeting.
MINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA PARK BOARD
HELD AT CITY HALL
July 9, 2013
7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Steel called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
ll. ROLL CALL
Answering roll call were Members Deeds, Jacobson, Gieseke, Steel, Cella, Jones, Dan Peterson.
Ill. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Member Dan Peterson made a motion, seconded by Member Gieseke, approving the meeting
agenda.
Ayes: Members Deeds, Jacobson, Gieseke, Steel, Cella, Jones, Dan Peterson.
Motion carried.
IV. ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
W.A. ApPFGval of Minutes — RegulaF PaFk BeaFd Meeting of june 11, 2013 -
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
W.A. REGULAR PARK BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 1, 2013 — APPROVED AS AMENDED.
Chair Steel made a motion, seconded by Member Dan Peterson, correcting the regular meeting
minutes of June 11, 2013, page three, paragraph 10, during Chair Steel's discussion of accessibility to
parks via sidewalks, add the phrase: "because the policy only talks about every child's access to a
school, not a park".
Chair Steel requested a second change on page four, paragraph one, immediately after the phrase
"Chair Steel asked about putting in a pedestrian bridge" to add: "for the Richfield School District
children", followed by the existing "to access Strachauer Park", with a final addition of: "since the
closest park is Rosland in that area".
Ayes: Members Deeds, Jacobson, Gieseke, Steel, Cella, Jones, Dan Peterson.
Motion carried.
Member Dan Peterson made a motion, seconded by Member Cella, approving the regular minutes of
June 11, 2013, as corrected.
Ayes: Members Deeds, Jacobson, Gieseke, Steel, Cella, Jones, Dan Peterson.
Motion carried.
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
None.
Vl. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
VI.A. 54th Street and Arden Park Stormwater Management Plan
Ms. Kattreh introduced the two consultants present to assist in the discussion, Paul Pasko and Caitlin
Badger.
Mr. Pasko introduced Ms. Badger noting she will provide an overview of the 54th Street project as well
as the Stormwater Management Plan. She noted the first topic under discussion is 54th Street from
Wooddale to France and she asked for the Park Board to raise issues and questions of concern.
Mr. Pasko noted that tonight's meeting is not the time for offering solutions, but rather is primarily
about getting questions and concerns on the table.
Member Gieseke asked about the issue of access to the creek, specifically those wanting to canoe, as
well as parking space challenges. He also brought up traffic issues in the area.
Member Jones brought up the issue of access safety thinking, specifically getting out of the water
safely and getting from one side to the other safely.
Member Deeds brought up trail access and float access, as well as improved aesthetics in the area.
Member Cella asked about impact on the parkland that is already present. Mr. Pasko stated that is still
undetermined. The emphasis for 54th Street seems to be on the right-of-way; everything is on the table
as data is collected.
Member Dan Peterson asked if Arden Park is part of a flood plain. He recalled that over 30 years ago
the city installed a bigger, better bridge. He also asked what legal entities will be involved. Mr. Pasko
responded that Minnehaha Creek Watershed District is involved as well as the DNR and the Corp of
Engineers.
Member Dan Peterson brought up the issue of limited parking as well as speeding. He noted that he
has also seen kids fishing in that area.
Member Deeds asked about the amenities at Arden Park to which Ms. Kattreh responded there is a
hockey rink, free -skating rink, shelter building, canoe landing, playground and a trail through the park.
Chair Steel stated she used to tube down there quite a bit when she was younger, especially when she
was a nanny for two younger kids. The main issues were finding a spot to park bikes and getting there
safely while both walking and biking.
Member Deeds stated this might be an opportunity to use potential native filtration, marshes, plants
and other things that would encourage wildlife around the park.
Member Jones stated it looks as if the area north of the bridge is flooded.
Mr. Pasko summarized that one question might be how to make the flood waters a feature rather than
an impediment when they are present.
Member Jones stated the bridge is not wide enough for pedestrians, bikes and cars. It would be ideal
to not have a bike lane disappear while getting on the bridge.
Member Deeds encouraged thinking about how to get off the bridge. He stated it is a safety and
aesthetic issue. The more the bike lanes can be separated from the walking paths the better.
Mr. Pasko noted that on Minnetonka Boulevard there is a separate bridge of 10 or 15 feet for bikes
only.
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Chair Steel asked if there is a lot of biking activity for children in that area to which Ms. Kattreh replied
there are some bikes going through there. The majority of activity she has seen is mothers with
strollers as well as dog walkers.
Chair Steel asked about the trail composition and Ms. Kattreh responded it is asphalt.
Member Deeds stated there is a larger discussion in the city about bike paths, so what happens here
should be built in consideration of those discussions of the non -auto -based transportation system.
Member Gieseke stated there is a greater need for recreational programming.
Member Jones stated there are a lot of needs for the park but that can be left for future discussion of
aging shelter buildings. All research shows it is good to put in painted lanes on streets, but those
painted lanes do not increase the number of people biking. The way to increase biking is to have
protected bike lanes. She noted that is a very narrow street and as a mother she is not sure about the
comfort level of letting children biking on that street. She encouraged the design to have either
protected bike lanes or a wide enough sidewalk to be a multi -use trail. She wants people to feel
comfortable about biking to parks and to the Edina Aquatic Center.
Member Cella echoed comments about a separate biking trail, particularly since 54th Street takes traffic
from east to west in Edina and is used significantly during rush hour for commuter traffic.
Member Jacobson brought up the issue of being very purposeful about lighting, as there is currently
not a lot of lighting in that area. Member Deeds stated it is important to have properly focused
lighting, as there is often so much energy wasted in street lighting.
Mr. Pasko stated as plans start to take shape, he encouraged the Park Board to consider the long-term
plan of the park. That will impact where things get placed.
Member Jones stated as far as she knows there are no plans for design on the park. The shelter
building is at least 20 years old. Ms. Kattreh stated it was probably built in the 1970s.
Member Cella suggested there should be a subcommittee to think through the park layout.
Chair Steel stated this is a unique feature and she would like to see what the consultants can propose
and then what can be accommodated in the city's plan.
Member Jones noted that the Park Board has never had this opportunity during a street reconstruction
to make comments, so this is unusual. This is a time when the city is bringing the community together
to discuss needs and desires with respect to streets. This may also be a good time to re-evaluate parks.
It may be that this is a perfect time for the community to say what they would like in their parks so that
plans for redevelopment of neighborhood parks can have the same type of calendar for streets. Both
streets and playgrounds have approximately 20 -year life cycles, so perhaps they could be scheduled on
a similar timeline.
Ms. Badger stated feedback is being collected on the park as well and that information will be available
to the city for now or later.
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Member Gieseke noted that the River Walk in San Antonio has interesting, bold ideas that could be
incorporated, whether it is a boardwalk, seasonal entertainment or a community gathering space.
Member Jones stated it looks like the street has already been reconstructed to France. Mr. Pasko
noted that a few years back curb and gutter were added and there was an overlay rather than a
complete reconstruction.
Ms. Badger thanked the Park Board for their feedback. She encouraged any further comments or
concerns as they may come to mind.
Mr. Pasko concluded with a brief overview of the timeline of the projects moving forward.
VI.B. Sports Dome and Athletic Field Recommendation
Ms. Kattreh introduced Susie Miller, Braemar Arena Manager, who has worked on the pro forma for
the Sports Dome and provided a lot of information on the potential for an outdoor refrigerated rink.
Ms. Kattreh also introduced Kathy Wallace, an architect from the Cunningham Group, who has
provided architectural services for the Sports Dome as well as the Golf Dome.
Ms. Kattreh outlined the four renderings of the options for the Sports Dome, noting all options are at
the Braemar athletic field site. Options A and C, as outlined in the Power Point presentation and board
packet, are the two viable options still under consideration, as Options B and D were quickly eliminated
from consideration. She noted the details are not yet worked out with the Fire Department. Staff
believes there is sufficient room to meet fire code requirements, but some adaptations might be
needed as the process moves along.
Ms. Kattreh noted staff was pleased to find out that the cost estimates do not vary much between
Options A and C; the range is $5.3 million to $6 million, with an approximate additional $2 million for a
refrigerated outdoor ice rink.
Ms. Kattreh noted they wanted to maximize the space available and also allow for a wider field, making
it more marketable and with the ability to run games east/west as well as north/south.
Member Cella asked about the additional costs for Option C. Ms. Kattreh noted those costs are higher
due to the retaining walls and grading as well as a higher cost in the extra fabric in a 250 -foot dome.
Member Jacobson asked whether plans include a walking or running track around the edge to which
Ms. Kattreh responded affirmatively. She noted it would be very similar to the Maple Grove dome,
which was included in the Park Board packet.
Ms. Kattreh noted that the costs presented in the report are just construction costs and do not include
anything related to operations. The included pro forma covers operational revenues and expenses.
She stated the goal for this pro forma was to ensure the dome would be sustainable without additional
funding from the city. Therefore, staff has discussed with Edina athletic associations implementing a
$30 per participant priority use fee for scheduling the dome. She has worked with Lacrosse, Soccer,
Baseball, and Football to agree to give them priority scheduling of the dome, with the $30 per person
fee, which would guarantee the City $95,310 in annual dome operations. Staff will also go out to
secure non -Edina groups, but this was a way to secure finances with groups who have the most interest
in the dome.
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Ms. Kattreh discussed a variety of future programming options as well as the business plan to develop
relationships with non-residents who will use the dome.
Chair Steel asked about the possibility of event rentals at the dome. Ms. Kattreh responded
affirmatively, noting rentals are something that will be considered for the dome. She also noted that
over 15 years the priority use access fees would accumulate to over $1.4 million.
Chair Steel encouraged the priority use policy to be created in such a way to encourage equity, with the
goal of avoiding some of the same difficulties being faced right now.
Ms. Kattreh informed the Park Board that at the guidance of Parks and Recreation consultants, staff
worked with the athletic associations to revise and enhance the pro forma. She highlighted some of
those changes, noting the expenses are conservative and revenues are confirmed. The hours and
schedule are confirmed as well as the priority use fee. She also noted that at year 15 the dome will
have reached a 115% cost recovery.
Chair Steel asked about the ages of players and whether there will be enough space for families to visit,
particularly as it relates to playgrounds or other amenities. Ms. Kattreh stated there will be a wide age
range of players from little kids to older kids. She pointed out the site might be very tight if the option
that eliminates the current playground is selected; however, amenities are something to consider. She
noted there is a very welcoming common area and concession stand for parents who might want to
hang out while kids are practicing.
Discussion ensued regarding the life expectancy of the turf and the dome itself and whether the sinking
fund would be able to cover those replacement costs.
Ms. Kattreh discussed the outdoor refrigerated rink, and that the east arena needs to be switched from
R22 to ammonia for refrigeration by the year 2020. She noted the pro forma is based upon a 17-week
season though favorable weather would allow for a 19-week season.
Member Deeds asked about a warming house. Ms. Kattreh responded staff has not vetted all the
options, including a heated bench, a roof, and access to restrooms.
Member Cella asked whether an additional outdoor piece of ice was on the original list of priorities.
Ms. Kattreh responded that it was not, though staff wanted to ensure they did not miss out on any
opportunities and wanted to at least consider any options while working with the consultants.
Member Jacobson asked whether the ice rink area can be used for a potential field in the summer. Ms.
Kattreh stated a concrete base will give the rink the longest life; some cities use it as a BMX or a
skateboard park.
Member Jones asked what makes up the $2 million price tag for the ice rink. Ms. Kattreh explained a
large portion of it would be connecting the refrigeration mechanism from the east arena as well as the
rink, as well as tubing, boards, engineering and architect fees and other soft costs. She stated the $2
million is a realistic cost unless something like a roof over the ice arena is considered.
Member Jacobson asked how this would impact the scheduling issues with the hockey and figure
skating club. Ms. Kattreh said it might help alleviate the situation, but would not solve it as hockey
rents such a large number of hours.
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Member Deeds asked about space for parking if the dome and ice rink are fully booked. Ms. Miller
replied the big high school games present the most parking challenges, which happen about six times
per season.
Ms. Kattreh noted there might be a 10 percent savings if one construction contract included both the
dome as well as the outdoor refrigerated rink. Various possible economies of scale were discussed.
Chair Steel stated choices need to be made regarding whether this is a great place for kids and parents
to come together or whether it is just a place for kids to be dropped off. Those other possible
amenities could be discussed down the road.
Ms. Kattreh asked the Park Board to voice whether there is interest in the outdoor refrigerated ice.
Member Deeds stated the dome and the athletic field improvements are top priority. He stated most
of the problem is that most of the fields are not built to withstand most of our weather and are not
built to drain.
Member Jones thanked staff for thinking about the outdoor ice rink; she does not know where it fits in
with the priorities of Braemar Arena and whether this is a need that should be acted on this year and
whether there is funding for it. She is intrigued by it, since other communities do have a lot of ice time,
but she does not know if this is going to be in the budget.
Ms. Kattreh noted that ties in with Member Deeds' point — if there was $2 million to spend, should it
be spent on an ice rink or spent on renovating five athletic fields?
Member Cella commented that renovating more fields is a priority over ice. But if plans for the dome
proceed, it makes sense to leave space for the ice rink.
Member Gieseke asked whether discussions have been had with the hockey folks who are raising
money for the Hornet's Nest. Ms. Kattreh stated no, those conversations have not been had due to
lack of time, but it is a good idea.
Ms. Kattreh stated one point worth noting is that if the city is going to put a rink there, it is an ideal
location because it is very shaded and protected. Member Deeds stated the space should definitely be
reserved for an ice rink, but the timing is unknown.
Ms. Kattreh indicated staff has spent time studying the current field use and field needs and has
determined there is a need for a minimum of two full-sized rectangular fields. Sometimes associations
limit numbers of players because of lack of field availability; city programming is also limited due to
field space limitations. Inclement weather significantly impacts the majority of the fields due to poor
drainage and proximity to creeks and lakes. The Edina Soccer Club cancelled 825 practices and games
due to the unusually wet spring.
Ms. Kattreh highlighted some significant facilities needing improvement that would greatly impact
programs and associations. The first field highlighted is Creek Valley School Park, which happens to be
on School District property but is maintained by the city. She estimated that changing to sand fields
would cost $450,000 per field. This is a primary facility for youth soccer programs. She also highlighted
Cornelia School Park, where playability could be improved as well. She also highlighted Pamela Park,
where $2.3 million of improvements are needed, including a sand -peat field, a turf field, parking lots
and lighting. Those improvements were originally slated within the city's CIP but were then removed.
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Member Deeds thanked Ms. Kattreh for all the work put into the study of the fields. He expressed
support in a combination of the two -- investments in the fields as well as the dome.
Ms. Kattreh provided an overview of the timeline moving ahead. She noted that City Council will have
to decide whether bonding would be an option for the project. She added in 2017 the last park bond
referendum will be paid off that was originally issued in 1997.
Ms. Kattreh stated there is the potential to add a couple athletic fields on the east side of Fred Richards
Golf Course if the golf course is turned back into a park, but that is still very premature.
Member Jones agreed with Member Deeds' comments that this is an important thing to move forward
on, but she does not want to see a net loss of playing fields; looking at it as a package is important. She
encouraged looking into geothermal options to help reduce energy costs. She suggested a
subcommittee within the Park Board to pursue other energy options and in particular what other
communities are doing. Member Jones proposed the city seriously look into other funding methods or
for a capital campaign. She noted the Hornet's Nest was a good example of private funding to the city
and providing 25 percent of the project. That enabled the city to create a really nice facility. She
suggested looking into private funding or naming rights so the city is not the only option for paying for
capital expenses. She commended the work of the Parks and Recreation consultants; all of the
recommendations from the June 18 feasibility study make a whole lot of sense.
Chair Steel thanked Ms. Kattreh and Ms. Miller for their efforts in putting all this information together.
Member Dan Peterson asked about rounds of golf played at the Fred Richards Golf Course. Ms. Kattreh
stated that she does not know but that staff can obtain those numbers.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
VILA. Council Updates
None.
VIII. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Member Cella asked whether the summary results of the community survey will be included on the
next agenda. Ms. Kattreh responded affirmatively.
IX. STAFF COMMENTS
Ms. Kattreh stated the Countryside Park project is moving along, after a delay due to the weather. The
Golf Dome project is on schedule. The next project is storm sewer and water retention. The dome is
still on schedule for a November 1 opening. Pre -construction meetings for the Garden Park baseball
field are starting soon. The Community Garden parking lot construction starts the week of July 29. The
other big project right now is the two-year budget, which is due on July 17.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Steel made a motion, seconded by Member Dan Peterson, to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
Ayes: Members Deeds, Jacobson, Gieseke, Steel, Cella, Jones, Dan Peterson.
Motion Carried.
Meeting adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
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To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
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Agenda Item #: VI.A.
Action
Discussion ❑
Date: August 13, 2013 Information ❑
Subject: Strachauer- Park Sidewalk, Parking and Storm Water Management Improvements
Action Requested:
Approve the plan for parking, sidewalks and storm water management at Strachauer Park.
Information / Background:
This project is part of the 2014 Roadway Reconstruction Project. The recommended
improvements address the neighborhood concerns regarding parking at Strachauer Park, provide a
place for pedestrians to safely access the park and also address concerns about storm water runoff.
The project is currently scheduled by the Engineering Department to be completed in two phases.
The first phase is a parking bay with a sidewalk on the east half of the park, along with a storm
water management area. The second phase is the west half sidewalk and would be added as part of
the 2016 Roadway Reconstruction Project. The Engineering Department originally recommended
construction of each sidewalk phase with each neighborhood project.
The SE corner of the park is not utilized for activities so it could be utilized for storm water
treatment. With the additional impervious area created from the parking bay and sidewalk, storm
water treatment more than likely would be required by the watershed district. Several trees will be
removed as part of this project, but they will be replaced.
Both the east and west half of the sidewalk could be completed as part of the 2014 project if
approved and recommended by the Park Board. Staff suggests that the Park Board recommends
construction of both the first phase (east) and second phase (west) sections in 2014.
The public process included an Open House about roadway reconstruction projects on October 8,
2012 for residents living in the area. Residents were also invited to an informational meeting on
Monday, July 29, 2013. Residents were asked to complete a questionnaire this spring about local
issues and concerns.
ATTACHMENTS:
A. Strachauer Park Preliminary Sketches of Improvements
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. • Edina, MN 55424
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To: Park Board Agenda Item M VI.B.
From: Ann Kattreh Action ❑
Parks and Recreation Director Discussion
Date: August 13, 2013 Information
Subject: 2013 Park. Board Work Plan Status Update
Action Requested:
Review the progress of the 2013 Park Board Work Plan and consider recommendations for the 2014
Park Board Work Plan.
Information / Background:
Please find attached the status update of the 2013 Park Board Work Plan. It's also time to start planning for
the 2014 Park Board Work Plan. Please provide suggestions for the 2014 Park Board Work Plan either at
the August Park Board meeting or to Ann Kattreh via email. Staff will work. with Chair Steel to provide a
draft work plan at the September Park Board meeting.
Attachment:
2013 Park Board Work Plan Update
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
Park Board
2013 Annual Work Plan — August 2013 Update
1 2013 New initiative Target Completion Budget Required Staff Support Required Council
Date Approval planning with a comprehensive needs Ongoing $100,000 Director, Assistant Director, yes
assessment Enterprise Managers,
Recreation Supervisors,
Administrative Support Staff
Park Board Duties: Serve on work groups and committees with consultant, staff and residents to assess needs and appropriately align policies,
facilities, programming and financial and personnel resources with our mission and vision. This study could also encompass the City Council's
actions on the Grandview Area Plan.
Progress Report: Working group met in first half of year. Parks and Recreation Department Mission Statement was recommended and
approved by the Park Board. Chair Steel is working with staff on a Recreation Program Plan. Anticipated project completion date of
December 2014.
2013 New Initiative Target Completion Budget Required Staff Support Required Council
Date
Review and comment on Garden Park Baseball Field October 2013 $300,000 Director and Assistant yes
renovations Director, Superintendent of
Park Maintenance
Park Board Duties: October 2012 public hearing, review and comment on proposed changes to Garden Park. Staff will be completing a grant
application for approximately $225,000.
Progress Report: Renovations set to begin the week of August 5, 2013 with a completion date of October 2013.
New Initiative Target Completion
Support2013
Budget Required Staff
Date
Review and comment on Lake Edina Pathway
July 2013
$100,000
Approval
Director and Superintendent yes
of Park Maintenance
Park Board Duties: Park Board will host a public hearing on this pathway. Board will then review and comment on the project.
Progress Report: Project completed in July 2013.
Review and comment on Countryside Park Master October 2013 $1,000,000 Director, Assistant Director yes
Plan and Superintendent of Park
Maintenance
Park Board Duties: Park Board will review and comment on a playground proposal, and review and comment on the Park Master Plan. Park
Board representation was requested on the park shelter building replacement.
Progress Report: All demolition work completed internally by public works and park maintenance staff. The foundation is poured, utilities
plumbed, soil corrections made. Site work set to begin August S. Completion date is scheduled for October 2013.
Review and comment on community garden pilot
project and related policy.
Park Board Duties:
Progress Report: Community Garden opened in May 2013.
• Capital Improvement Plan
• Fees and Charges
• 2014-2015 Operating Budget
• Update Bylaws
• Election of Officers
• 2014 Park Board Work Plan
• Donations Policy
• Naming of Parks and Facilities Policy
• User Fee Policy
• Edina Veterans Memorial
• Soorts Dome
yes
Other Work Plan ideas Considered for Current Year or Future Years
Cooperative Agreement with School District for use, upgrade and
maintenance of Creek Valley Park athletic fields and Cornelia School
Park athletic fields.
2013-2014
Community Gardens— Research partnership with YMCA
2013-2014
Green energy initiatives — Partner with the Energy and Environment
Commission to form a work group to study initiatives for the parks and
enterprise operations.
2014
The City Council would like to focus on a parks strategic plan during 2013 and has altered
goals related to the Senior Center and Wooddale Park to reflect this focus. The latter
projects will be deferred to a future vear.
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To: Park Board Agenda Item #: VI.C.
From: Ann Kattreh Action ❑
Parks and Recreation Director Discussion ❑
Date: August 13, 2013 Information M
Subject: Centennial Lakes Promenade Final Phase
Action Requested:
Review attached information regarding the Centennial Lakes Promenade Final Phase for formal
discussion at the September Park Board meeting.
Information / Background:
Attached is the updated concept water feature and an example summary for the final phase of the
Promenade project, which includes the water feature and a small brook.
Approval process includes:
• August 8 — EEC Receives Plan and Examples
• August 13 — Park Board Receives Plan and Examples
• August 15 — ETC Receives Plan and Examples to comment on pedestrian and bike facility
• September 10— Park Board to recommend approval of plan: URS Presents Plan to Park Board
• October 3 — City Council Reviews and Approves Plan and Examples
If all progresses as planned, the proposal will go to the City Council at their October 1 City Council
meeting. URS will then be able to complete the final design in November through January and bid out the
project in March for start of construction in June/July of 2014 with construction completion in
October/November of 2014.
This information is being provided to you for review only prior to the presentation by URS at the September
Park Board meeting.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
BROOK CONCEPT
THE BROOK CHANNEL IS ENVISIONED TO BE FAIRLY NARROW: 2'ATTHE BOTTOM WITH EDGES BEING 1-3' DEPENDING ON THE
CONDITIONS. THE UPPER CHANNEL WILL BE MORE FORMAL WITH STONE OR FORMED CONCRETE EDGES (EXAMPLE PHOTO 1).
THE CHANNEL BELOW THE POND WILL BE LESS FORMAL, WITH SCATTERED BOULDERS MEANDERING ALONG THE CHANNEL
(EXAMPLE PHOTO 2). THE WATERWAY WILL BE LINED IN SOMEWAY, MOST LIKELY WITH PLAIN OR COLORED CONCRETE.
EXAMPLE PHOTO 1: FORMAL HARD EDGE w/SMOOTH CHANNEL BOTTOM
SIMPLE ELEGANT SCULPTURE IN SMALL
FORMALPOOL
SCULPTURAL NODE CONCEPT
EXAMPLE PHOTO 2: GRAVEL CHANNEL WITH ROCKS AS GRADE
DROPS FORMING SMALL POOLS, INFORMAL ROCK EDGE
THERE WILL BETHREE OR FOUR LOCATIONS FOR SCULPTURAL INSTALLATIONS.
THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE "BABBLING BROOK" CHANNEL ARE IMPORTANT
NODES IN THIS PORTION OF THE PROMENADE. THESE NODES WILL BE PERMA-
NENTLY INTEGRATED INTO THE WATER FEATURES AND BE PART OF THE WATER
CIRCULATION SYSTEM. OTHER LOCATIONS MAY BE USED FOR TEMPORARY
INSTALLATIONS.
CASCADING WATER CONCEPT
THE TOTAL GRADE CHANGE FROM THE TOP OF THE WATERWAYTO
THE LOWER OUTLET AREA IS ABOUT 10' MOST OF THE CHANNEL
WILL BE FAIRLY FLAT. TRANSITION AREAS FLOWING TO AND FROM
THE POND WILL BE MAXIMIZED TO PROVIDE SOME INTERESTING
CASCADING FEATURES.
SMALL DROPS SPACED ALONG LENGTH OF BROOK
POND CONCEPT
THE POND WILL BE LINED WITH COLORED CONCRETE TO FACILI-
TATE PERIODIC MAINTENANCE / FLUSHING. THE WEST EDGE WILL
BE A SHORT WALL, 25MAXIMUM AND WILL NOT REQUIRE A
RAILING. THE EAST EDGE WILL BE LINED WITH LARGE BOULDERS
TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM GOING INTOTHE WATER. THE
WATER WILL BE CIRCULATING AT ALLTIMES AND WILL BE
PUMPED FROM THE NORTH POND OF CENTENNIAL LAKES. IT'S
FUNCTION WILL BE TO PROVIDE A PASSIVE RECREATIONAL
ENVIRONMENT FOR TRAIL USERS WHILE INCREASING THE
RUN-OFF TREATMENT CAPACITY FOR CENTENNIAL LAKES STORM
WATER SYSTEM AND PROPOSED BYERLY'S SITE DEVELOPMENT.
BROOK CROSSING FEATURE CONCEPTS
TRAIL CROSSINGS WILL BE SIMPLE STRUCTURES WHICH WILL
PERMITWATERTO FLOW UNDERNEATH WITHOUT BEING HIGH
ENOUGH TO REQUIRE RAILINGS. IN SOME OR ALL CASES A
"BUMPER" MAYBE ADDED AS AN ADDED SAFETY MEASURE FOR
WHEELCHAIRS, STROLLERS, ETC.
MIX CONCRETE WALK/EDGE WITH RIP -RAP EDGE
LI I Y OF WINA PRELIMINARY CONCEPT DESIGN
JULY 26, 2013
PROMENADE IMPROVEMENTS URS
To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
Parks and Recreation Director
Date: August 13, 2013
Subject: 2013 Quality of Life Survey Results
Action Requested:
Review the 2013 Quality of Life Survey Results.
Information I Bacltground:
Agenda Item #: VI.D.
Action ❑
Discussion ❑
Information
Decision Resources will be presenting the 2013 Quality of Life Survey Results to the Park Board on
September 10, 2013. Decision Resources staff was unavailable to present them at the August 13 Park Board
meeting. The results were presented to the City Council on August 5. The results are being included in the
August Park Board packet to give Park Board members an opportunity to review the results and prepare
questions and comments for the September meeting.
ATTACHMENTS:
A. 2013 Edina Survey Results
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
DECISION RESOURCES, LTD.
3128 Dean Court
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55416
EDINA RESIDENTIAL
SURVEY
FINAL APRIL 2013
Hello, I'm of Decision Resources, Ltd., a polling firm
located in Minneapolis. We've been retained by the City of Edina
to speak with a random sample of residents about issues facing the
city. The survey is being taken because your city representatives
and staff are interested in your opinions and suggestions. I want
to assure you that all individual responses will be held strictly
confidential; only summaries of the entire sample will be
reported. (DO NOT PAUSE)
1. Approximately how many years have
you lived in the City of Edina?
LESS
THAN TWO YEAR ..... 3%
2.1
TO FIVE YEARS ......
9%
5.1
TO TEN YEARS ......
13%
10.1
TO 20 YEARS ......
28%
20.1
TO 30 YEARS ......
19%
OVER
THIRTY YEARS .....
29%
DON'T
KNOW/REFUSED.....
0%
2. As things now stand, how long do LESS THAN TWO YEAR.....2%
you expect to live in Edina? 2.1 TO FIVE YEARS ...... 1%
5.1 TO TEN YEARS ...... 11%
OVER TEN YEARS........ 79%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....7%
3. Thinking back to when you moved to Edina, what factors were
most important to you in selecting the city?
CLOSE TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS, 12%; CLOSE TO JOB, 11%; ALWAYS
EDINA, 9%; HOUSING/NEIGHBORHOOD, 21%; REPUTATION, 7%;
CONVENIENT LOCATION, 3%; GOOD SCHOOLS, 35%; SCATTERED, 2%.
4. How would you rate the quality of EXCELLENT.............73%
life in Edina -- excellent, good, GOOD..................26%
only fair, or poor? ONLY FAIR..............1%
POOR...................0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
5. What do you like most about living in the city of Edina?
CLOSE TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS, 11%; CLOSE TO JOB, 5%;
CONVENIENT LOCATION, 9%; HOUSING/NEIGHBORHOOD, 15%;
REPUTATION/PRESTIGE, 7%; PARKS AND TRAILS, 4%; CLOSE TO
SHOPPING, 8%; NATURAL BEAUTY, 12%; SAFE, 6%; GOOD SCHOOLS,
18%; CITY SERVICES, 4%; SCATTERED, 2%.
6. What do you feel is the most serious issue, if anything,
facing the community?
UNSURE, 3%; NOTHING, 34%; HIGH TAXES, 130; CITY GOVERNMENT
DECISIONS, 40; LACK OF REDEVELOPMENT, 2%; RISING CRIME, 20;
POOR RAODS, 6%; TRAFFIC CONGESTION, 9%; SCHOOL FUNDING, 3%;
AGING COMMUNITY, 2%; HOUSING TEARDOWNS, 10%; TOO MUCH
DEVELOPMENT, 5%; SCATTERED, 7%.
7. How would you rate the general. EXCELLENT.............40%
sense of community and neighbor- GOOD..................55%
liness among Edina residents -- ONLY FAIR..............5%
excellent, good, only fair, or POOR...................0%
poor? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
8. All in all, do you think things in RIGHT DIRECTION ....... 92%
Edina are generally headed in the WRONG TRACK ............ 6%
right direction, or do you feel DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 2%
things are off on the wrong track?
IF "WRONG TRACK," ASK: (n=25)
9. Why do you feel that way?
HIGH TAXES, 32%; CITY GOVERNMENT, 160; HOUSING
TEARDOWNS, 12%; ANIMAL CONTROL, 12%; LACK OF
REDEVELOPMENT, 16%; TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, 120.
Let's spend a few minutes discussing the quality of life and image
of the City of Edina.
10. What one word would you use to describe Edina?
UNSURE, 3%; EXCELLENT, 29%; GOOD, 17%; SNOBS, 3%; HIGH
QUALITY, 20%; RICH/WEALTHY, 5%; PRESITGIOUS, 6 SAFE, 3%;
COMFORTABLE, 4%; FRIENDLY, 3%; SCATTERED, 7%.
11. What City of Edina facility or service best represents that
description?
UNSURE, 8%; NOTHING, 7%; CITY HALL, 18%; HIGH SCHOOL, 21%;
SOUTHDALE, 2%; PARKS AND RECREATION, 26%; EDINA COUNTRY
CLUB, 70; SCHOOL DISTRICT, 6%; POLICE, 2%; SCATTERED, 3%.
12. Are there any City facilities or services that don't represent
that description?
DON'T KNOW, 5%; NO, 860; FRED RICHARDS GOLF COURSE, 3%;
SCATTERED, 6%.
13. When you think about Edina both today and yesterday,
what, if anything, do you think should be preserved for the
future?
UNSURE, 8%; NOTHING, 8%; HOUSING STOCK, 15%; SOUTHDALE,
4%; HIGH SCHOOL, 16%; LAKES, 21%; BRAEMAR GOLF COURSE, 4%;
PARKS/OPEN SPACE, 10%; SCHOOL DISTRICT, 9%; SCATTERED, 5%.
Moving on....
I would like to read you a list of a few city services. For each
one, please tell me whether you would rate the quality of the
service as excellent, good, only fair, or poor?
EXCL GOOD FAIR POOR D.K.
14.
Police protection?
68%
30%
1%
1%
1%
15.
Fire protection?
71%
28%
0%
0%
2%
16.
Emergency medical services?
72%
24%
1%
0%
4%
17.
Quality and taste of drinking
water?
19%
48%
22%
11%
0%
18.
Sanitary sewer service?
21%
76%
1%
1%
2%
19.
Park maintenance?
51%
49%
1%
0%
0%
20.
Condition of trails and
sidewalks?
31%
64%
4%
0%
1%
21.
Recreational programs?
39%
56%
1%
0%
5%
22.
Recycling service?
490
46%
3%
1%
2%
IF ANY SERVICES WERE RATED EITHER "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR,"
ASK: (n=142)
23. What changes or improvements, if any, would be needed
in that service for it to be rated "excellent" or
"good?"
BETTER MAINTENANCE, 2%; TAKE MORE RECYCLING, 4%;
BETTER DRINKING WATER, 84%; MORE SIDEWALKS, 4%;
SCATTERED, 6%.
Roadways in the City of Edina consist of both city and county
streets and state highways. City streets are those found in
residential neighborhoods and also include many major streets.
County roads in Edina are France Avenue, Xerxes Avenue, York
Avenue, and Vernon Avenue, while state highways include Highway
100, Highway 169, Highway 62 and Interstate 494.
Keeping in mind we are talking only about city streets, please
tell me whether you would rate the quality of the following
services as excellent, good, only fair, or poor?
IF ANY SERVICES WERE RATED EITHER "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR,"
ASK: (n=174)
27. What changes or improvements, if any, would be needed
in that service for it to be rated "excellent" or
"good?"
BETTER STREET REPAIR, 470; FASTER RESPONSE, 3%; MORE
STREET LIGHTS, 7%; BETTER SNOWPLOWING, 5%; FASTER
STREET REPAIR, 36%; SCATTERED, 2%.
Moving on....
28. Do you consider city property VERY HIGH.............10%
taxes in Edina to be very high, SOMEWHAT HIGH......... 30%
somewhat high, about average, ABOUT AVERAGE ......... 48%
somewhat low, or very low in com- SOMEWHAT LOW........... 5%
parison with neighboring cities? VERY LOW...............0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....8%
29. When you consider the property EXCELLENT.............18%
taxes you pay and the quality GOOD..................75%
of city services you receive, ONLY FAIR..............3%
would you rate the general value POOR...................1%
of city services as excellent, DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 3%
good, only fair, or poor?
30. Would you favor or oppose an in- FAVOR.................65%
crease in YOUR city property tax OPPOSE................30%
if an increase was needed to main- DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....5%
tain city services at their cur-
rent level?
IF "OPPOSE," ASK: (n=120)
31. What services would you be willing to see cut to keep
property taxes at their current level?
UNSURE, 8%; NONE/CUT WASTE, 43%; ADMINISTRATION, 120;
PARKS AND RECREATION, 8%; ACROSS THE BOARD, 28%;
SCATTERED, 2%.
EXCL
GOOD
FAIR
POOR
D.K.
24. Pavement repair and patching
on city streets?
12%
47%
29%
11%
1%
25. Snowplowing of city streets?
34%
62%
30
2%
0%
26. Street lighting?
13%
80%
6%
2%
0%
IF ANY SERVICES WERE RATED EITHER "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR,"
ASK: (n=174)
27. What changes or improvements, if any, would be needed
in that service for it to be rated "excellent" or
"good?"
BETTER STREET REPAIR, 470; FASTER RESPONSE, 3%; MORE
STREET LIGHTS, 7%; BETTER SNOWPLOWING, 5%; FASTER
STREET REPAIR, 36%; SCATTERED, 2%.
Moving on....
28. Do you consider city property VERY HIGH.............10%
taxes in Edina to be very high, SOMEWHAT HIGH......... 30%
somewhat high, about average, ABOUT AVERAGE ......... 48%
somewhat low, or very low in com- SOMEWHAT LOW........... 5%
parison with neighboring cities? VERY LOW...............0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....8%
29. When you consider the property EXCELLENT.............18%
taxes you pay and the quality GOOD..................75%
of city services you receive, ONLY FAIR..............3%
would you rate the general value POOR...................1%
of city services as excellent, DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 3%
good, only fair, or poor?
30. Would you favor or oppose an in- FAVOR.................65%
crease in YOUR city property tax OPPOSE................30%
if an increase was needed to main- DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....5%
tain city services at their cur-
rent level?
IF "OPPOSE," ASK: (n=120)
31. What services would you be willing to see cut to keep
property taxes at their current level?
UNSURE, 8%; NONE/CUT WASTE, 43%; ADMINISTRATION, 120;
PARKS AND RECREATION, 8%; ACROSS THE BOARD, 28%;
SCATTERED, 2%.
For each of the following, please tell me whether the City is too
tough, about right, or not tough enough in enforcing city codes on
the nuisances.
TOO ABO NOT DK/
TOU RIG TOU REF
32.
Animal control?
7%
79%
13%
2%
33.
Storage of cars, trucks and
16%
2%
82%
10
34%
recreation vehicles?
4%
80%
15%
1%
34.
Messy yards?
1%
80%
18%
0%
35.
Exterior home maintenance?
3%
840
13%
1%
36.
Construction site maintenance?
4%
79%
14%
3%
Switching focus....
I would like to read you a list of characteristics of a community.
For each one, please tell me if you think Edina currently has too
many or too much, too few or too little, or about the right
amount.
37. the number of people residing
in the community?
38. rental units?
39. higher cost housing oppor-
tunities?
40. condominiums and townhouses?
41. starter homes?
42. assisted living for seniors?
43. nursing homes?
44. one level housing for seniors
maintained by an association?
45. parks and open spaces?
46. trails and bikeways?
47. sidewalks?
48. service and retail establish-
ments?
49. entertainment and dining
establishments?
MANY
FEW/
ABT
DK/
/MCH
LITT
RGHT
REFD
16%
2%
82%
10
34%
21%
41%
50
28%
8%
60%
5%
140
12%
71%
3%
4%
48%
43%
5%
4%
29%
53%
150-0
2%
28%
52%
19%
2%
33%
460
20%
10
7%.
91%
1%
7%
10%
830
0%
2%
41%
58%
0%
3%
10%
87%
0%
4%
12%
83%
0%
50. Excluding gasoline, what is your GREATER SOUTHDALE..... 47%
primary shopping area -- the 50TH AND FRANCE....... 21%
greater Southdale area, 50th and CENTENNIAL LAKES ....... 6%
France, Centennial Lakes, Grandview, GRANDVIEW.............13%
neighborhood shopping NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING..8%
center or someplace else? SAINT LOUIS PARK ....... 2%
EDEN PRAIRIE ........... 2%
SCATTERED..............1%
IF LOCATION IN EDINA IS NAMED, ASK: (n=380)
51. How would you rate appearance EXCELLENT.............24%
and upkeep of your primary GOOD..................72%
shopping area - excellent, ONLY FAIR..............4%
good, only fair or poor? POOR...................1%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....0%
52. How would you rate redevelopment EXCELLENT.... .......... 9%
in Edina -- excellent, good, only GOOD..................64%
fair, or poor? ONLY FAIR.............20%
POOR...................4%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 3%
IF A RATING IS GIVEN, ASK: (n=389)
53. Why do you feel that way?
UNSURE, 1%; LOOKS NICE, 34%; ATTRACTS BUSINESSES, 19%;
IMPROVE BUSINESS CLIMATE, 17%; POOR PLANNING, 7%; TOO
MUCH TRAFFIC, 3%; SOUTHDALE ISSUE, 2%; TOO MANY HIGH
RISES, 4%; HOUSES ARE TOO LARGE, 12%; SCATTERED, 2%.
54. Do you support or oppose the con- STRONGLY SUPPORT ....... 6%
tinued redevelopment in Edina? SUPPORT...............69%
WAIT FOR RESPONSE) Do you feel OPPOSE................13%
strongly that way? STRONGLY OPPOSE ......... 5%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 7%
IF "OPPOSE" OR "STRONGLY OPPOSE," ASK: (n=72)
55. Why do you feel that way?
NEED TO PLAN BETTER, 21%; BRINGS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, 15%;
HIGH TAXES, 8%; TOO MANY HIGH RISES, 14%; HOUSES ARE
TOO LARGE, 36%; DOING TOO MUCH, 4%; SCATTERED, 1%.
56. Are there any types of development or redevelopment you
would like to see in Edina? (IF "YES," ASK:) What are
they?
UNSURE, 3%; NO, 49%; FINE DINING, 5%; AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
12%; REVITALIZE SOUTHDALE, 12%; TRAILS, 2%; SENIOR
HOUSING, 7%; SIDEWALKS, 6%; SCATTERED, 5%.
57. Are there any types of development or redevelopment you
would strongly oppose?
NO, 34%; HIGH RISES, 17%; LOW INCOME HOUSING, 13%;
ROUNDABOUTS, 3%; BARS, 8%; BICYCLE LANES, 4%; APARTMENTS,
6%; MANSIONS, 10%; SCATTERED, 5%.
As the City of Edina continues redevelopment....
58.
Do you support or oppose the City
STRONGLY SUPPORT....... 4%
providing financial incentives to
SUPPORT...............62%
attract specific types of develop-
OPPOSE................23%
ment? (WAIT FOR RESPONSE) Do you
STRONGLY OPPOSE........
6%
feel strongly that way?
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
5%
Turning
specifically to housing redevelopment, there have been
many
homes torn down in the city during
the past few years. These
homes
have mostly been replaced with larger homes.
59.
Do you support or oppose continued
STRONGLY SUPPORT.......
6%
single-family housing redevelopment
SUPPORT...............66%
in the city? (WAIT FOR RESPONSE)
OPPOSE................15%
Do you feel strongly that way?
STRONGLY OPPOSE.......
10%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
4%
IF A RESPONSE IS GIVEN, ASK: (n=384)
60. Could you tell me one or two reasons for your decision?
RUINS NEIGHBORHOODS, 8%; DOESN'T FIT INTO
NEIGHBORHOODS, 3%; DISRUPTS NEIGHBORHOODS, 9%;
IMPROVES PROPERTY VALUES, 34%; LOOKS NICE, 34%; MORE
TRAFFIC, 2%; HOUSES ARE TOO BIG, 3%; BRINGS IN YOUNG
FAMILIES, 4%; SCATTERED, 3%.
IF "OPPOSE" OR `STRONGLY OPPOSE," ASK: (n=103)
For your information, the 197 homes torn down and rebuilt
over the past five years has added an additional $131 million
to the city's tax rolls. With this information....
61. Do you still oppose the con- YES...................41%
tinued single-family housing NO....................51%
redevelopment in the city? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....9%
Edina has commercial areas in the city with higher density housing
options, high-rise apartment or condominium buildings. As the
city continues to explore options for residential development....
62. Do you favor or oppose additional STRONGLY FAVOR......... 4%
higher density housing options being FAVOR.................53%
built in commercial areas of Edina? OPPOSE................24%
(WAIT FOR RESPONSE) Do you feel STRONGLY OPPOSE....... 150
strongly that way? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 4%
IF "OPPOSE" OR "STRONGLY OPPOSE," ASK: (n=156)
When higher density housing options are offered it allows for
more space for public amenities such as parks, green space
and trails. Examples in the community include Centennial
Lakes Park, Edinborough Park and the planned Edina Promenade
enhancements by Byerly's.
63. Do you still oppose additional YES...................65%
higher density housing options NO....................33%
being built if it allows for DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 2%
more space for public
amenities?
Changing topics....
As you may know, the City of Edina owns and operates three
municipal liquor stores. It's the City's policy that profits from
the liquor operations be used for capital and public improvements.
64. Do you favor or oppose the City FAVOR.................94%
continuing to operate its munici- OPPOSE.................5%
pal liquor stores? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
65. Have you visited any of these YES...................71%
stores during the past twelve NO....................28%
months? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
IF "YES," ASK: (n=284)
66. Which store do you generally GRANDVIEW.............34%
shop at -- Grandview on Ver- 50TH AND FRANCE....... 27%
non Avenue, 50th and France SOUTHDALE.............39%
on West 50th Street, or DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
Southdale on York Avenue?
Please rate the store and/or staff on each of the following
criteria. For each one, please tell me if you would rate it
as excellent, good, only fair, or poor. If you have no
opinion, just say so....
EXC GOO FAI P0O DKR
67.
Product selection?
32%
66%
2%
0%
0%
68.
Prices of products?
23%
59%
19%
0%
0%
69.
Layout and organization
of the store?
30%
68%
1%
0%
0%
70.
Courtesy and friendliness of
staff?
51%
48%
1%
0%
0%
Changing topics....
71. Other than voting, do you think YES...................84%
that if you wanted to, you could NO....................12%
have a say about the way things DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 4%
are run in this community?
IF "NO," ASK: (n=48)
72. Why do you feel that way?
DON'T LISTEN, 60%; DON'T MAKE DECISIONS I AGREE WITH,
6%; DON'T WANT TO HAVE SAY/VOTE, 25%; NOT AWARE, 6%;
SCATTERED, 2%.
73. How much first-hand contact have QUITE A LOT ............ 5%
you had with the Edina City Staff SOME..................41%
-- quite a lot, some, very little, VERY LITTLE ........... 41%
or none? NONE..................13%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
74. From what you have seen, heard, or EXCELLENT..............15%
experienced, how would you rate GOOD..................76%
the job of the Edina City Staff ONLY FAIR..............5%
-- excellent, good, only fair, or POOR...................1%
poor? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 3%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR," ASK: (n=24)
75. How could the city staff improve?
UNSURE, 4%; MORE POLITE, 13%; MORE HELPFUL, 17%; MORE
EFFICIENT, 25%; LISTEN TO RESIDENTS, 29%; FASTER
RESPONSE TIME, 13%.
76. During the past year, have you YES...................40%
contacted by telephone or in per- NO....................60%
son any Edina City staff member DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
on city business?
IF "YES," ASK: (n=159)
77. On your last contact with
POLICE................14%
City staff, which department
FIRE...................1%
did you reach -- Police, Fire,
UTILITY BILLING ........
8%
Utility Billing, Planning,
PLANNING..............10%
Building Inspections, Public
BUILDING INSPECTIONS..10%
Works, Engineering, Parks
PUBLIC WORKS ..........
21%
and Recreation, Assessing,
ENGINEERING ............
1%
Communications and Technology
PARKS AND RECREATION..13%
Services, Health, the Informa-
ASSESSING..............1%
tion Desk, or Administration?
COMMUNICATIONS/TECH ....
1%
HEALTH.................2%
INFORMATION DESK ......
12%
ADMINISTRATION .........
6%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
1%
Thinking about that last contact, for each of the fol-
lowing characteristics, please rate the Edina City staff as
excellent, good, only fair, or poor....
78. Waiting time for service?
79. Ease of reaching a department
staff member who could help
you?
80. Efficiency of the department
staff?
81. Courtesy of the department
staff?
EXC GOO FAI POO DKR
300 62% 8% 1% 0%
37% 55% 50 3% 1%
35% 54% 9% 3% 0%
46% 49% 4% 1% 0%
Let's talk about park and recreation opportunities in Edina....
82. How would you rate park and rec- EXCELLENT.............47%
reation facilities in Edina -- GOOD..................52%
excellent, good, only fair, or ONLY FAIR..............1%
poor? POOR...................0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
83. How would you rate the maintenance EXCELLENT.............36%
and upkeep of park and recreation GOOD..................62%
facilities in the city -- excellent, ONLY FAIR..............2%
good, only fair, or poor? POOR...................0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR," ASK: (n=10)
84. What facilities would you rate as (only fair/poor)?
BRAEMAR ICE ARENA, 10%; PARKS, 70%; FRED RICHARDS,
10%; ATHLETIC FIELDS, 10%.
I will now read you a short list of park and recreational oppor-
tunities within the City. First, for each one, please tell me if
you or members of your household have used it during the past
year. Then, for those you have used, please rate it as excellent,
good, only fair, or poor....
NOT EXC GOO FAI POR DKR
85.
Trails?
21%
380
38%
2%
1%
0%_e'
86.
Neighborhood parks?
17%
440
38%
2%
0%
0%
87.
Larger community athletic fields?
520
20%
27%
1%
0%
1%
88.
Edinborough park?
53%
200
24%
20
1%
1%
89.
Centennial Lakes park?
36%
42%
22%
0%
0%
1%
90.
The Aquatic Center?
62%
18%
17%
1%
1%
1%
91.
The Senior Center?
67%
21%
12%
0%
0%
1%
92.
The ice arena, Braemar Arena?
68%
13%
15%
2%
1%
2%
93.
The Edina Art Center?
55%
22%
22%
1%
0%
1%
94.
Braemar Golf Course?
58%
24%
16%
0%
0%
2%
95.
Fred Richards Executive Golf
Course?
76%
100
12%
1%
0%
1%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR" IN ANY QUESTION #85-#95, ASK: (n=44)
96. Could you tell me why you rated
fair/poor)?
as (only
UNSURE, 5%; NOT MAINTAINED WELL ENOUGH, 41%; AGING,
20%; NEED MORE TRAILS, 23%; JUVENILE CRIME IN PARKS,
5%; SCATTERED, 7%.
Edina's Vision Statement is making Edina the preeminent place for
living, learning, raising families and doing business. I would
like to read you the list of park and recreation facilities again.
This time, I would like you to think ONLY of the building or
facility, not the programs offered there, and tell me if the
building or facility very strongly represents Edina's Vision
Statement, somewhat strongly represents it, not too strongly
represents it or doesn't represent the Vision Statement at all.
If you have no opinion, please tell me....
107. In general, do you feel that YES...................97%
existing recreational facilities NO ....................2%
offered by the City meet the DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....1%
needs of you and members of
your household?
IF "NO," ASK: (n=8)
108. What additional recreational facilities would you like
to see the City offer its residents?
UNSURE, 13%; SPORTS DOME, 50%; MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS,
13%; MORE PICNIC AREAS, 25%.
The City has been considering several outdoor park improvements.
I would like to read you a list of such improvements. For each
one, please tell me if you would strongly support it, somewhat
support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose it. If you have no
opinion, just say so.... (ROTATE)
STR
SMR
NTR
NAA
DKR
97.
Braemar Arena?
28%
43%
19%
20
9%
98.
Braemar Clubhouse?
39%
38%
11%
1%
12%
99.
Braemar Golf Course?
54%
32%
5%
0%
9%
100.
Edina Aquatic Center?
33%
40%
17%
2%
9%
101.
Centennial Lakes Park?
50%
34%
10%
3%
4%
102.,
Edina Art Center
400
37%
12%
2%
10%
103.
Edina Senior Center?
30%
29%
16%
7%
18%
104.
Edinborough Park?
25%
38%
19%
7%
12%
105.
Fred Richards Executive Golf
33%
41%
16%
9%
1%
Course?
24%
32%
21%
6%
17%
106.
Arneson Acres Park?
18%
39%
23%
5%
16%
107. In general, do you feel that YES...................97%
existing recreational facilities NO ....................2%
offered by the City meet the DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....1%
needs of you and members of
your household?
IF "NO," ASK: (n=8)
108. What additional recreational facilities would you like
to see the City offer its residents?
UNSURE, 13%; SPORTS DOME, 50%; MORE ATHLETIC FIELDS,
13%; MORE PICNIC AREAS, 25%.
The City has been considering several outdoor park improvements.
I would like to read you a list of such improvements. For each
one, please tell me if you would strongly support it, somewhat
support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose it. If you have no
opinion, just say so.... (ROTATE)
STS
SMS
SMO
STO
DKR
109.
Volleyball courts?
22%
32%
31%
12%
3%
110.
Badminton courts?
16%
28%
33%
20%
3%
111.
Pickleball courts?
12%
24%
33%
23%
8%
112.
Basketball courts?
26%
29%
27%
17%
2%
113.
Horseshoe pits?
24%
36%
25%
14%
2%
114.
Chess boards?
21%
330
24%
19%
3%
115.
Community gardens?
43%
32%
14%
110
1%
116.
Disk golf?
14%
27%
33%
21%
6%
117.
Barbeque and picnic areas?
33%
41%
16%
9%
1%
122. Do you or members of your household currently leave the city
for park and recreation facilities or activities not offered
in Edina? (IF "YES," ASK:) What would that be?
NO, 840; SWIMMING, 2%; LAKES/BOATING, 8%; TRAILS, 2%;
SCATTERED, 4%.
The City has also been considering several new or improved park
facilities. I would like to read you a list of such improvements.
For each one, please tell me if you would strongly support it,
somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose it. If you
have no opinion, just say so.... (ROTATE)
123. Construction of new Art Center?
124. Construction of a new Sports Dome?
125. Improvements at the Braemer Golf
Course, including the clubhouse
and driving range?
126. Construction of new community
Performing arts Center?
127. Construction of a new Community
Center?
128. Renovation of athletic fields?
STS SMS SMO STO DKR
15% 300 31% 210 30
23% 26% 25% 220 5%
9% 230 31% 31% 60
9% 30% 33% 230 5%
14% 290 34% 21% 3%
10% 250 32% 30% 3%
IF "STRONGLY SUPPORT" OR "SUPPORT," ASK: (n=315)
These facility improvements could require the use of property
taxes....
129. How much would you be willing
NOTHING...............13%
STS
SMS
SMO
STO
DKR
118.
Picnic shelters?
380
410
140
7%
0%
119.
Dog parks?
200
33%
250
19%
30
120.
Splash pads?
20%
33%
250
170
60
121.
Wi-fi internet access?
15%
26%
240
300
5%
122. Do you or members of your household currently leave the city
for park and recreation facilities or activities not offered
in Edina? (IF "YES," ASK:) What would that be?
NO, 840; SWIMMING, 2%; LAKES/BOATING, 8%; TRAILS, 2%;
SCATTERED, 4%.
The City has also been considering several new or improved park
facilities. I would like to read you a list of such improvements.
For each one, please tell me if you would strongly support it,
somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose it. If you
have no opinion, just say so.... (ROTATE)
123. Construction of new Art Center?
124. Construction of a new Sports Dome?
125. Improvements at the Braemer Golf
Course, including the clubhouse
and driving range?
126. Construction of new community
Performing arts Center?
127. Construction of a new Community
Center?
128. Renovation of athletic fields?
STS SMS SMO STO DKR
15% 300 31% 210 30
23% 26% 25% 220 5%
9% 230 31% 31% 60
9% 30% 33% 230 5%
14% 290 34% 21% 3%
10% 250 32% 30% 3%
IF "STRONGLY SUPPORT" OR "SUPPORT," ASK: (n=315)
These facility improvements could require the use of property
taxes....
129. How much would you be willing
NOTHING...............13%
to see your property taxes in-
$2.00 .................150
crease to fund these improve-
$4.00 .................24%
ments? Would you be willing to$6.00.................20%
see your monthly property taxes$8.00.................12%
increase by $ ? (CHOOSE
$10.00 .................6%
RANDOM STARTING POINT; MOVE UP
$12.00 .................9%
OR DOWN DEPENDING ON RESPONSE)
DON'T KNOW.............1%
How about $ per month?
REFUSED................0%
Turning to recreation programming....
ti
130. Have you or members of your house- YES...................35%
hold participated in any City- NO....................65%
sponsored park and recreation pro- DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
grams, apart from the private
athletic associations in the city?
IF "YES," ASK: (n=139)
131. How would you rate your ex- EXCELLENT.............3796
perience -- excellent, good, GOOD..................62%
only fair, or poor? ONLY FAIR..............1%
POOR...................0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR," ASK: (n=1)
132. Could you tell me why you rated it as (only
fair/poor)?
POOR OFFICIATING, 100%.
133. Does the current mix of City park YES...................99%
and recreation programming meet NO.....................1%
the needs of your household? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "NO," ASK: (n=2)
134. What program(s) do you feel are lacking?
INDOOR SPORTS LEAGUES, 1000.
135. How much of an role should the City VERY SIGNIFICANT ...... 20%
place on health and wellness when SOMEWHAT SIGNIFICANT..49%
making policy decisions - should it NOT TOO SIGNIFICANT... 20%
have a very significant role, some- NOT AT ALL SIGNFICANT..9%
what significant, not too signify- DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 2%
cant or no role at all?
Turning to the issue of public safety in the community....
I would like to read you a list of public issues.
136. Please tell me which one you consider to be the greatest
concern in Edina? If you feel that none of these concerns
are serious in Edina, just say so. (READ LIST)
Personal
safety?..................................8%
Burglary?
........................................17%
volume of
Speeding
and other traffic violations? ...........
21%
Drugs?............................................3%
your area increased,
REMAINED ABOUT SAME...65%
Underage
drinking?................................9%
or remained about the
Juvenile
crimes?.................................12%
same?
Identity
theft?...................................5%
Domestic
abuse?...................................2%
Something
else?...................................1%
None are
serious (VOL) ...........................
22%
Don't Know/Refused
................................1%
137. Are there places in the City you would not feel safe walking
alone at night? (IF "YES, " ASK:) Where would that be?
UNSURE, 1%; NO, 720; SOUTHDALE, 11%; MINNEAPOLIS BORDER,
5%; APARTMENTS, 3%; LOW INCOME AREAS, 5%; SCATTERED, 3%.
138. And, do you think crime in the INCREASED.............18%
City of Edina has increased, de- DECREASED..............2%
creased, or stayed about the same STAYED ABOUT SAME.....78%
during the past three years? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 2%
139. During the
past year, has the
INCREASED.............31%
fic speeding in
volume of
traffic on residential
DECREASED..............2%
-- very serious,
streets in
your area increased,
REMAINED ABOUT SAME...65%
not too serious,
decreased,
or remained about the
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
20
same?
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
0%
140. How serious of a
problem is traf-
VERY SERIOUS ........... 7%
fic speeding in
your neighborhood
SOMEWHAT SERIOUS......
33%
-- very serious,
somewhat serious,
NOT T00 SERIOUS.......
40%
not too serious,
or not at all
NOT AT ALL SERIOUS ....
21%
serious?
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....
0%
141. And, how serious of a problem are VERY SERIOUS ........... 6%
stop sign violations in your nei- SOMEWHAT SERIOUS...... 27%
ghborhood -- very serious, some- NOT T00 SERIOUS....... 47%
what serious, not too serious, or NOT AT ALL SERIOUS....20%
not at all serious? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
As I read the following statements about public safety in Edina,
please answer "yes" or "no."
142. The Edina Fire Department responds to calls
in a timely manner. 90% 2% 8%
143. I trust the City's Police, Fire, and Emer-
gency Medical Services response and the
services rendered? 99% 0% 1%
Moving on....
144. Do you leave the City of Edina on YES...................29%
a regular or daily basis to go to NO/WORK IN EDINA...... 26%
work? (IF "NO," ASK:) Do you NO/NOT EMPLOY/RETIRED.45%
work in Edina? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED ..... 1.
IF "YES," ASK: (n=116)
145. In what city is your job
located?
146. How many minutes does it take
you to get to work?
REFUSED................2%
MINNEAPOLIS ...........
56%
ST. PAUL...............9%
26%
MINNETONKA.............3%
20 MINUTES......
BLOOMINGTON ...........
15%
EDEN PRAIRIE ...........
4%
VARIES.................3%
30 MINUTES.......
HOPKINS................3%
OVER
BURNSVILLE/EAGAN.......
2%
SCATTERED..............4%
KNOW/REFUSED.....3%
FIVE MINUTES OR LESS ... 2%
SIX TO TEN MINUTES....12%
11 TO
15 MINUTES......
26%
16 TO
20 MINUTES......
34%
21 TO
25 MINUTES......
17%
26 TO
30 MINUTES.......
4%
OVER
30 MINUTES ........
3%
DON'T
KNOW/REFUSED.....3%
147. How would you rate the ease EXCELLENT.............13%
of getting to and from work GOOD..................74%
-- excellent, good, only fair ONLY FAIR.............11%
or poor? POOR...................2%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
Weather permitting....
148. How often do you walk in the City FREQUENTLY ............ 32%
of Edina - frequently, occasionally, OCCASIONALLY .......... 47%
rarely or never? RARELY................18%
NEVER..................4%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....0%
149. How would you rate the ease of EXCELLENT.............23%
getting from place to place within GOOD..................63%
the City of Edina by walking -- ONLY FAIR.............11%
excellent, good, only fair or poor_? POOR...................2%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....l%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR," ASK: (n=52)
150. What changes or improvements could the City of Edina
make to improve your ability to get from place to place
within the city by walking?
UNSURE, 6%; NONE, 2%; MORE SIDEWALKS, 73%; MORE
TRAILS, 4%; LONGER CROSSWALK TIMES, 10%; SCATTERED,
6%.
Weather permitting....
151. How often do you bike in the City FREQUENTLY.............5%
of Edina - frequently, occasionally, OCCASIONALLY .......... 28%
rarely or never? RARELY................15%
NEVER.................52%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....l%
152. How would you rate the ease of EXCELLENT..............9%
getting from place to place within GOOD..................71%
the City of Edina by biking - ex- ONLY FAIR..............5%
cellent, good, only fair, or poor? POOR...................1%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.... 15%
IF "ONLY FAIR" OR "POOR," ASK: (n=22)
153. What changes or improvements could the City of Edina
make to improve your ability to get from place to place
within the city by biking?
UNSURE, 5%; NONE, 14%; MORE SIDEWALKS; 9%; MORE
TRAILS, 27%; WIDER TRAILS, 90; MORE BICYCLE LANES,
14%; LONGER CROSSWALK TIMES, 14%; BICYCLE LANES ARE
TOO CONFUSING, 5%; SCATTERED, 4%.
Moving on....
154. What is your principal source of information about city
government and its activities?
CITY NEWSLETTER, 35%; CITY WEBSITE, 12%; CABLE TELEVISION,
4%; LOCAL NEWSPAPER, 37%; WORD OF MOUTH, 6%; STAR TRIBUNE,
50; SCATTERED, 2%.
155. How would you prefer to receive information about city
government and its activities?
CITY NEWSLETTER, 38%; CITY WEBSITE, 13%; CABLE TELEVISION,
5%; LOCAL NEWSPAPER, 28%; WORD OF MOUTH, 4%; STAR TRIBUNE,
4%; E-MAILS, 6%; SCATTERED, 2%.
For each of the following, please tell me whether you consider it
to be a major source of information for news about the city, a
minor source, or not a source at all. (ROTATE)
169. Do you recall receiving the City YES...................93%
publication "About Town" during NO.....................7%
the past year? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "YES, ASK: (n=372)
170. Do you or any members of your YES...................93%
household regularly read it? NO.....................7%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
MAJ
MIN
NOT
DKR
156.
The City publication,
the "About Town?"
55%
36%
9%
0%
157.
The Parks and Recreation Activi-
ties Directory?
12%
41%
48%
0%
158.
The "Edina Sun Current" news-
paper?
60%
32%
8%
0%
159.
The Star Tribune West Metro
section?
19%
53%
29%
0%
160.
The City's website?
21%
29%
49%
1%
161.
Edina Community Channel 16?
14%
21%
65%
0%
162.
City employees?
6%
35%
580
1%
163.
Direct mail updates?
140
40%
46%
0%
164.
Social media, such as Facebook
or Twitter?
1%
13%
85%
1%
165.
Blogs?
0%
5%
94%
1%
166.
On-line webstream videos on
YouTube or Granicus?
1%
60
93%
1%
167.
E-mail subscription service,
"City Extra?"?
9%
16%
74%
1%
168.
Friends and family?
32%
45%
23%
1%
169. Do you recall receiving the City YES...................93%
publication "About Town" during NO.....................7%
the past year? DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "YES, ASK: (n=372)
170. Do you or any members of your YES...................93%
household regularly read it? NO.....................7%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 1%
171. How effective is the city
newsletter in keeping you in-
formed about activities in
the city -- very effective,
somewhat effective, not too
effective, or not at all ef-
fective?
172. How would you rate the amount of
print information you receive from
the City of Edina -- is it too
much, about the right amount or
too little?
173. Does your household subscribe to
cable television, satellite tele-
vision or neither?
IF "CABLE," ASK: (n=291)
174. How often do you watch Edina
Community Channel 16 --
daily, weekly, several times
per month, monthly, three or
four times a year, or never?
IF #1-#5, ASK: (n=137)
VERY EFFECTIVE ........ 34%
SOMEWHAT EFFECTIVE.... 56%
NOT TOO EFFECTIVE ...... 6%
NOT AT ALL EFFECTIVE ... 2%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED ..... 2%
TOO MUCH...............3%
ABOUT RIGHT AMOUNT .... 93%
TOO LITTLE.............4%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED.....1%
CABLE.................73%
SATELLITE.............19%
NEITHER................8%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
DAILY..................4%
WEEKLY................12%
SEVERAL/MONTH ......... 15%
MONTHLY................7%
3-4/YEAR............... 9%
NEVER.................53%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
Which of the following types of programs have you
watched on Edina Community Channel 16 during the past
year?
175. City Council Meetings?
176. City Board or Commission
Meetings?
177. Bulletin Board messages,
aired between programming?
178. Other programming, such as
"Agenda:Edina," "Beyond the
Badge," or "Enterprise Edina?"
YES
93%
80%
48%
46%
NO DKR
7% 0%
20% 0%
52% 0%
54% 0%
179. Do you have access to the Internet HOME ONLY.............41%
at home? (WAIT FOR RESPONSE) Do WORK ONLY..............1%
you have access to the Internet BOTH..................42%
at work? NEITHER...............16%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
IF "HOME ONLY" OR "BOTH," ASK: (n=331)
180 How do you connect to the
internet at home --on a dial-
up modem, DSL, T-1 line,
fiber, cable or telephone
internet, satellite, or smart
phone?
181. Have you visited the City's
website during the past year?
IF "YES," ASK: (n=208)
182. How would you, rate the
city's website -- excel-
lent, good, only fair,
or poor?
183. Were you able to find
what you were looking
for on the website?
DIAL-UP MODEM .......... 7%
DSL...................43%
T-1 ....................0%
FIBER..................1%
CABLE/TELEPHONE ....... 44%
SATELLITE..............4%
SMART PHONE ............ 2%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
YES...................63%
NO....................37%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
EXCELLENT.............23%
GOOD..................75%
ONLY FAIR..............2%
POOR...................0%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
YES...................98%
NO.....................2%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
Now, just a few more questions for demographic purposes....
Could you please tell me how many people in each of the following
age groups live in your household. Let's start oldest to young-
est, and be sure to include yourself....
184. First, persons 65 or over?
185. Adults under 65?
NONE..................65%
ONE...................19%
TWO OR MORE ........... 16%
REFUSED................0°%
NONE..................28%
ONE...................12%
TWO...................52%
THREE OR MORE.......... 8%
REFUSED................06
186. School -aged children or pre- NONE..................70%
schoolers? ONE....................8%
TWO...................16%
THREE OR MORE.......... 6%
REFUSED................0%
187. What is your age, please? 18-24 ..................2%
25-34 .................11%
35-44 .................15%
45-54 .................21%
55-64 .................21%
65 AND OVER ........... 30%
REFUSED................0%
188. What is the last grade of formal LESS THAN HIGH SCHOOL..1%
education you completed? HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE...7%
VO-TECH/TECH COLLEGE...9%
SOME COLLEGE .......... 17%
COLLEGE GRADUATE...... 48%
POST -GRADUATE......... 18%
REFUSED................1%
189. Do you reside in an apartment, APARTMENT.............15%
townhouse or condominium, or a TOWNHOUSE/CONDO....... 26%
detached single family home? SINGLE-FAMILY HOME .... 58%
SOMETHING ELSE (VOL)...1
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
190. Do you own or rent your present OWN ................ .74%
residence? RENT..................25%
REFUSED................1%
191. Which of the following categories WHITE.................88%
represents your ethnicity --
AFRICAN -AMERICAN.......
3%
White,
African-American, Hispanic-
HISPANIC -LATINO........
2%
Latino,
Asian -Pacific Islander,
ASIAN -PACIFIC ISLAND...5%
Native
American, or something
NATIVE AMERICAN ........
1%
else?
(IF "SOMETHING ELSE," ASK:)
SOMETHING ELSE.........
0%
What would that be?
MIXED/BI-RACIAL........
1%
DON'T KNOW.............0%
REFUSED................1%
And now, for one final question, keeping in mind that your answers
are held strictly confidential....
192. Thinking about your household fin-
ances, how would you describe your
financial situation, would you say
that --
A) Your monthly expenses are ex-
ceeding your income;
B) You are meeting your monthly
expenses but are putting aside
little or no savings;
C) You are managing comfortably
while putting some money aside;
D) Managing very well?
193. Gender.
194. Region of City.
STATEMENT A............5%
STATEMENT B...........20%
STATEMENT C...........57%
STATEMENT D...........19%
DON'T KNOW/REFUSED..... 0%
MALE..................48%
FEMALE................52%
NE....................25%
NW....................25%
SE....................25%
SW....................25%
To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
Parks and Recreation Director
Date: August 13, 2013
Subject: Council Updates
Action Requested:
No Action is Necessary.
Information / Background:
Agenda Item #: VILA.
Action ❑
Discussion ❑
Information
Attached are City Council Updates from their July 19 and August 5, City Council Meetings.
City of Edina - 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
ON Council Updates
July 19, 2013
Considered a proposal to implement a new priority use policy at Braemar Arena. The Council
did not adopt the proposed policy. Instead, the Council directed the figure skating club and
hockey association to meet with City staff to craft a compromise on this subject. The Council
directed that the compromise be brought back to the Council for approval at the Aug. 5 Council
meeting.
August 5, 2013
• Awarded a $55,841 contract to Signature Aquatics to resurface the Edinborough Park swimming
pool.
Received a very positive presentation from Bill Morris of Decision Resources, Ltd. regarding the
results of the City's 2013 Quality of Life Survey. The results were outstanding. The Council was
pleased and congratulated City staff on the excellent results. Employees will hear more about
the survey results later this month.
• Reviewed a proposed staff proposal to establish a priority use policy for Braemar Arena. After
discussion, the Council adopted such a policy, which will become effective with the 2013-2014
winter season. The new policy shifts ice time in the East Arena from the Figure Skating Club to
the Hockey Association and asks staff to review the impacts of the shift on the operations of the
figure skating club over the next twenty four months.
To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
Parks and Recreation Director
Date: August 13, 2013
Subject: Correspondence
Action Requested:
No action is necessary.
Information / Background:
Attached is correspondence received.
cn
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MRS
Agenda Item #: VII.C.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50,h St. • Edina, MN 55424
Action ❑
Discussion ❑
Information
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From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sant: Monday. July 15, 2013 11:45 AM
Subioat: FW: Support of Sports Dorne
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Subject: Support of Sports Dome
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Ile dClmmd Rn WKWr lamvme cowtin ics to gnmv hill %ve are unable to provide much for the players. We
\vould be very interested in rutlllinl; camps; clinic~ and lcagucs in a \Vinter facility.
iryou have any questions, please let rile win"n'rhank you!
Sincerely,
"Travis Wells
Susan Howl
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Subject; FW: Edina sports dome
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-----Original Message -----
From; Michael long In7ailto:coachmdlon ginail.conij
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:07 AM
To: Edina Mail; ionibennettl2@comcast,ltet; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@eciinarealty.com;
sweilsonannl r L;mail.com
Subject: Edina sports dome
City Council Members,
As a coach of Edina Varsity and youth Sports, I can tell you honestly that Our kids, and athletic teams are suffering from
not having, a dome of our own. The titne and motley It takes to use other domes is great and hurts our ability to conduct
training, We are long overdue for a dome. As a community that considers itself among the top in the state, it is an
embarrassment that we do not have a sports dome.
Putting the fact that people are worried about being able to see it from their houses is a terrible argument. I can see the
lighst from Kuhlman from my house. This should not be a reason to hurt our athletics and the people that put so much
time and effort into the youth of Edina.
Thank you for your hard work in getting this dome up,
Michael Long
Edina HS Boys Varsity Coach
Edina Lacrosse Association Coach
Susan Howl
Subject: PROPOSED CLOSING; OF FMD RICHARDS GOLF COURSE
MY WIFE MAIZYAND I I,IVI; IN I,I)INA MOIZNIN('YSIDl, ANI) IIAVI MANY FMII NDS
WHO PI,AY (YOI,I? ATTHE, ItICI-1Alt1)S (.YOI.r COtJMSI;. MY Wlrl, IS A MI1MBl,*, Z
OF'I'HE, GOLV CROUP "ONE 111J'1"1' LADIES" WHICH HAS PLAYED Al' rRED
RICHARDS
ICOR 13 YE'ARSHN THE GROUP LOVES I+RED RICHARDS AND WOULD NEVER EVE''R
CONSIDER CHANGINGTOTHE BRAE MAR GOIX COURSE WHERE SEVERAI, Ole
TIIE ONE PUI"I' I,AI)IIFS IIAVE I-IAI)'1ERRIBLE EXPERIENCIs'S,
MIKI 13E1t'1'1tAN13 AND II1S S"I'Al+'I{ A`1' I+RL'I) RICIiAItI)S A1tI ,1C7S`I"1'III, IiI S'1'. THEY
IIAVI; "SERVED" AND ACCOMMODATED US WI4,LI,'I'IIROt1(U1-IOU'I' QUIZ 1;3 YEARS
OI' PLAY "1'II1�Itl,,
ITHAS COMIC TO OUR A'11'ENTION-wAND'1'IIT,A'I"I'EN`1'ION O1,' MANY OTHER EDINA.
RESID.I,NTS-- THATA PROPOSAL IS PENI)IN(3y'1'0 CLOSE P'IZED RICI-I.ARDS TO MAK
I`1' INTO A SOCCER FIILLD ANI) WALKING IWITIS!!!! THAT WOULD NOT Ii1, WISH.
IT APPEARS TI1I?, NEIGHBORS BORDERING VRED RICIIARDS WOULD NOT
APPRECIATE THE NOISE, Ole KIDS PLAYING SOCCI IZ Al' ANY GIVEN TIME.
WE' A:BSOLU`1 EJ,Y OPPOSE, CI,OSI:N()r I�RED WCHARDS GOI,i+ COURSE WHICH
GENI�,RA'l'ES SOME REVENUE, rOR'1 HF, CITYOI+ r,DINA—WHICH A SOCCFA FIE1,I)
AND WALKING PATHS WOULD NOT. WE ARE STRONG IN OUR STAND THAI'
P'RED 111CI-IAItDS SHOULD IZEMAIN OPEN rOR AIaI,TDOSE WHO I,NJOY
THE BEN1?,VI'I'S Or 'LAYING GOI,F'I'HEIZ17- AND WE BELIEXE ` HE4 WISHES
O]� SOCCER MOMS SHOULD ABSOL FI' I,Y- Nog PREEMPT OURS. YOU MUST
IU-WONSIDER
YOUR PROPOSALTO CLOSE THF, COURSE: WHICH WOUI:D BEA DIRI, DISSERVICE,
TO
AIaI,`IHE PEOPLE' WHO ENJOY` JJEIR GOI,I,' EXJ`PR.IENCP', WEMMLY AT I HIS
WONDERFUL, NINE HOIX, COURSE.
YOURS TRUI.,Y,
11LAICE P. MAI.,I11 IZG AND MARY E, MALBERG
4235 SCO17 ` ERRACE, I DINA, MN ,5 X416 ()52-9'-12-,5810 810
Paul Danielson, President of the Toro Par 30 Golf League
8111 Lyndale Avenue S.
Bloomington, MN 55420
June 28, 2013
The Honorable James Hovland
Mayor of Edina
4801 W. 50`h Street
Edina, IVIN 55424
Dear Mayor Hovland:
As an Edina resident and president of The Toro Company's Par 30 Golf League, I have
attached a letter of support, to keep the Fred Richards Golf Course, open as a public golf
course.
Thank you for your consideration.
L/dj� k5��
Paul Danielson
CC: The Honorable Ms. Joni Bennett, The Honorable Ms. Mary Brindle, The Honorable
Mr. Josh Sprague & The Honorable Ms. Ann Swenson
Attachment:
Paul Danielson, President of the Toro Par 30 Golf League
5111 Lyndale Avenue S.
Bloomington, MN 55420
June 21, 2013
Edina City Council
4801 W. 50°i Street
Edina, MN 55424
Dear Honorable Council Members:
We, the undersigned members of The Toro Company —Par 30 League would ask for your
consideration and support, in keeping the Fred Richards Municipal Golf Course open — as
a golf course. We have heard the city is considering "re -purposing the park for other
recreational uses.
The Toro Par 30 League has used the Fred Richards course for league play for a number
of years and we appreciate the convenience of the location, friendly and flexible staff,
and of course, the course itself.
It does not appear that the Braemar course would have sufficient open time slots, to
absorb the leagues that cuiTently utilize Fred Richards.
It is our recommendation that you keep the Fred Richards course open — as a golf course.
Thank you for your consideration.
Letter to Edina City Council
June 21, 201
Page 2
To the Edina City Council
We, the members of the Fairway Femmes Golf League at Fred Richards Golf Course, ask
that the city does not close down this golf course at anytime going forward. Our league
has been playing there for 15 plus years and our members would like to continue to do so.
It is an important part of our community and also important to us as a group.
Please thoughtfully consider this request that Fred Richards Golf Course remain open for
all the residents of Edina and surrounding communities for everyone's enjoyment.
Thank you for your consideration and respectfully submitted:
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The Happy Hackers Golf League would like the City of Edina to
reconsider the destruction of the Fred Richards Golf Course. Please
consider the accessibility and pleasure this size course brings to so
many seniors, juniors, husbands and wives and their families. This
course has a natural beauty that would be a shame to destroy and
provides a needed alternative to other longer, more difficult courses.
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Please Don`t Destroy the Fred Richards Golf Course !!!
The Happy Hackers Golf League would like the City of Edina to
reconsider the destruction of the Fred Richards Golf Course. Please
consider the accessibility and pleasure this size course brings to so
many seniors, juniors, husbands and wives and their families. This
course has a natural beauty that would be a shame to destroy and
provides a needed alternative to other longer, more difficult courses.
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To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
Parks and Recreation Director
Date: August 13, 2013
Subject: Braemar Arena Priority Use Policy Correspondence
Action Requested:
No Action is Necessary.
Information / Background:
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Agenda Item M VII.B.
Attached is correspondence regarding the Braemar Arena Priority Use Policy.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 501h St. • Edina, MN 55424
Action ❑
Discussion ❑
Information
Susan Ilow►
I'nl sure you have seen the below, but the message compelled ole to contact you both just to make sure, I know I
mentioned to you, Susie, That in years past 11 IA. has wanted inore ice time at lkacnlar, but was turned a"Ay hic
ofunavailability.'Me have unveled Nr and wide to I could
go on and on. Bollonl line -if I A IA were given the option to purchase ice they swould marc than 1111 your quols,
Also-Thk of the tint base that fa IA brings to yoLlr HI•L.'lltl..... tile Concession sales. the tral'iic to both General
Shorts and Velocity. Ifyou lawn away 111 K it will change the dynande ofyouth hockey in flirts i:1ho hockey
is what it is toddy h/c Of grassroots/hometown typhodunities to so Ina,
livery yew we see the Cite of Lakes Skating; Show• -phenomenal program BUT no more important than FHA.
IT you would like additional lbedbuck or want a Ificreni perspective. 1 encoul•ttge you to reach out- hi is a
I1UGE, decision,
winnie Martin
Begin [b) -warded message:
Fi,orn: ITAut i-lockey Association <not-li-rgifly l.colll%
Date: July 16, 2013 10:13,06 ANI t DT
To: nlariins6012ii? )niail.colll
SQjeet: PLEASE IREAD: 11"Hority Use Agreement for Bracnru• Arena
Reply -To: nayoovl)ly(�i),wvnvxdinahockevassuciWion.coirl
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turfy Cioodulall (I:diiia t lackey Association) sunt you a messngc.
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To al l I:1 IA I'antilics liegiirding Priority Use Agreement for uraemia' Merin
fliiseveiiing the I•:dina City Council will be usked to act an a proposal From the Fdina Pork. tncF Recreation
Deparintenl reg'ar•ding ice allocation Icer Rracniar Arcoa. After reviewing the policy and the facts, the IA IA is bila ale
to support the Delimit l's reciunnlcndations its it long -terns solution to ice allocution mol t%e're prop idinp your
;otic background of file issue. the reasoning for our position and hoer yon eau help.
13racntar Areou is Ilse only Edina facility utilized by youth that operates without it user priority
access itg,reetienL 1`11c City Council directed the Parks and Recreation Department to recommend it Priority Use
Policy, The reconrtncuthilion designates tlscr Priority 111 to all city -sponsored c1'ettsjftirleliitn5. Priority 42 to the
I:dilla iIigh school I lackey Tennis, Priority 113 to city -recognized t;dinn ytinth athletic assocititions (til IA). Priority
I/A la orgallizations Ilial hare consecutively rented ice (13t'aelllar City of Lakes Illmn Skating Cmi BMW).
Priority Ai ... all non-resident programs:
The Parks and Recreation lkliti molt's recontntvnilations htchule allowing the 130,FSC in fir i F'WON its ice. Ms
prior tai be til IA being nlloaed to pomWw any uvailihle ice. it also docs not rellert it lair allocation or ice based of
parlieipinus or I;tlina residency.
\\lint are Ilio fnctti? 13('1,1 :S lias 138 nienibers. -10%1 of witicl lire l di» u residents lir it total resident population of
i 1. ENA Iris 1.321 awnihers (350 girls. 973 boys). 99% of Much lire tiding residents or attend him schools Rv a
total resident population of 1.311).'rlie Citi of lidina's youlh athletic assuciatioti residency requiremvm is 90%, and
tus adjosled w GO'S4, liar be Edina Swire OWL 1% 13CIAC currcatly rents 7W Iotas fetid M J emn•ntl; ivnis
2ADQ hour; per season w Rineniar fur it total cd 2MM hours. The 130.1"W s 701) hours are prime time Mw4 y -
Sunday tout do not include ally Friday. Suturday or Sunday nigltl title slots. •rhe average Edina youth hockey player
receives about I horn' per %reek at Bracillar and spends 3-4 hours al other arenas i1ro uul lite motro. I he averaec
ligurc skater receives nearly d hours of ice per week at Braemar.
The FI IA is sei king it propmoonale (I is! ribulion ol'icc little related to the Ile reel) tage t kliila residenci All- holh
groups and, ax it Priority Ila l )ser. the ability to liillill our ice occtls heli/rc it Priority +1.1 tit, 115 1 !ser.
What You Coll Do
I'you support lite position ol'the lid IA. pall can provide support in one of m'o rnethods.
I. Attend the lidimi City Council Incetiiig tonight ('1'uestlay) tit 7 p.m. ill City I hull. Perhaps bring your piaye4s) and
have them svcar one of their lidina hucUy jerseys.
1.. Send lin email to the Moyor, City Council klembcn and City C)I'licials. Names and em;til addresses are:
Tile Ilonorable James I Iovlmd. Mayor oi'Edina. mail rrcdinamn.gov
The I lonorahle Juni Bennett, Iidina City Collovil Aicluber, jonibcall,�11I-17i,corttcnst Ito
'I lie honorable klary Brindle. Edina CRY Council ktenthcr. mhriltdle rr contcast.nct
he i lonorable josh Sprilgoe. Edina City Council h4cuthcr.,lush pralnie d'cdinarcfdiy.ram
Thr IlollorabIc Ann Swenson. Edina City Council Nlemher, smculoriamihi 1,maiLr<mt
Nir. Scou Neal, Edina City Nionager. ,suenl irxditianut,guv
Nis. Ann KaUrch. lulimi Parks unit Recreation Dirccior, Iik;tnrahirr;ciliniiuut.Eoc
Please contact any VI IA Board Member il'yoti have tptcstions (nitnics toll pliono numbers listed on our welm-1tel.
Ran .Gtren
Ill IA President
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Susan Howl
July 24, 2013
Sue & Richard Johnston
4505 Wooddale Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
Dear Mr. Mayor,
We are sending this entail to you for your consideration. As city residents for the past 10 years and avid
sltatinrl/hockey parents for the past 8, we are disheartened by what we see happening at Braemar as reported
in the Star 'Tribune this week. It would be so sad to lose our skating dub which is steeped in history and is a
unique part of our great city,
As both hockey and figure skating parents, we understand the struggle for ice time. However, in this case the
answer is chrystal clear. The City and Arena made a 20 year good faith deal with the club, known as
BCLFSC, and one year later decided it "doesn't work"? Perhaps instead of state of the art locker rooms, an
additional sheet of ice should have been created.
Edina has two great sports who call l3raemar Arena home. Reducing the ice time for the figure skater club will
likely devastate the club's viability. Miller's suggestion of Finding ice time elsewhere is impossible (as she well
knows) as other arenas are prevented in selling ice to a competing Club. BCLFSC has honored all of its
con7n'litrllents including financially supporting the new Hornet's Nest locker rooms. In the past 8 years,
BCLFSC has contributed $2.88M of revenue to the city and Arena. The Annual Ice Show is a city staple and
offers skaters of all ages and abilities the opportunity to participate. BCLFSC is a year round contributor,
participating 51/52 weeks per year only yielding the ice to hockey tournaments over Thanksgiving and
Christmas. They have always been a good partner to the Arena and city and now need that spirit of
partnership and fair play returned to them.
In Minneapolis, Edina might be known for hockey, but Outside of the city, state and country, Braemar is known
for figure skating. Synchronized Figure Skating is slated as a Olympic Demonstration sport in the next winter
Olympics. For the past several years our team has been internationally recognized as a U5 leader and even
been awarded Team USA for the past several years, in 2016, Braemar will host the Midwestern sectionals for
Syriclironi7e'd FigUre Skating. It will be a 5hall10 to Hold Such a prestigious event if we do not have any skaters
to participate.
BCLFSC is an important part of the community, and its viability should not be at the mercy or whim of a
competing sport president, or arena manager. Now is the time for the City and the Arena to live up to and
honor its commitments to BCLFSC and not reduce the ice time or priority access.
Thank you for your consideration.
With Kind Regards,
Sue K Richard Johnston
susan Hawl
Dear Mrs Brindle,
My daughter has been skating at BCI.J'SC since she was 5 years old. She is now 14 and has tried many sports
ar)ri activities ill Edina but she consistently preferred figure skating above everything else. She is so motivated
to earn her gold moves (highest individual figure skating test) and to be part of Team Braemar Junior -
Synchronized Skating, She is so proud of her club and wants to continue representing it and Edina.
I can't tell you how crushed we have been as a family' because of the events over the last few weeks. My
husband and i attended last week's council meeting and we so appreciated most council members and the
mayor's courage and leadership. The aggressiveness of the EHA and the Park and Recreation board has
stunned rne. I am sure you are well aware of the facts and the allegations by now. I think for me the one that
strikes me the most is that, even if BCLFSC gave up all the ice it had, in the end EHA will still be short; there
isn't that much desirable ice for the EHA needs, but in the process, BCLFSC will he destroyed and the dreams
of many figura skaters with it.
I know the groups are trying to compromise again but I feel the figure skating group already gave up quite a bit
of ice time. I fear we will not reach an agreement in our favor but I hope the facts you have been provided
and the statements you made will help BCLFSC remain viable and thriving if it comes to a council decision.
Thank you,
Ann Makredes
4916 West Sunnyslope Road
Edina, MN 55424
Susan Howl
From: Lynette Biunno on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 7013 9:10 AM
Cc: Susan Bowl
subject: Fw: BGLFSC and EHA
Lynette Siunno, Receptionist
952-927-8861 i Fax 052-826-0389
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From: Ann Makredes [mailto:amakr@)ms .coni]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:02 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: BCLFSC and EHA
Mayor Hovland,
My daughter has been skating at BCLFSC since she was 5 years old. She is now 14 and has tried many sports and
activities in Edina but she consistently preferred figure skating above everything else. She is so motivated to earn
her gold moves (highest individual figure skating test) and to be part of Team Braemar Junior Synchronized
Skating. She is so proud of her club and wants to continue representing it and Edina.
I can't tell you how crushed we have been as a family because of the events over the last few weeks, My husband
and I attended last week's council meeting and we so appreciated your leadership and your courage. The
aggressiveness of the EHA and the Park and Recreation board has stunned me. I am sure you are well aware of
the facts and the allegations by now, I think for me the one that strikes me the most is that, even if BCLFSC gave
up all the ice it had, in the end EHA will still be short; there isn't that much desirable ice for the EHA needs, but in
the process, BC,LFSC will be destroyed and the dreams of many figure skaters with it.
I know the groups are trying to compromise again but I feel the figure skating group already gave up quite a bit of ice
time, I fear we will not reach an agreement in our favor but I hope the facts you have been provided and the
statements you made will help BCLFSC remain viable and thriving if it comes to a council decision.
Thank you,
Ann Makredes
4916 West Sunnyslope Road
Edina, MN 55424
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Prom: Lynette Biunno on behalf of Ldina Mail
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1;07 PM
Cc: Susan Flow!
Subject. FW: Braemar Ice Prioritization
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From: George Hadjiyanis [iiiailto;tdflrI jivani�rncas .net]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:05 PM
To: Edina Mail
Cc: Susan Hadjiyanis
Stjbject: Braemar Ice: Prioritization
Honorable N/layor• 1 lovland.
As rCsicicnts 011"dina and current parents ilia Synchronized Skutin&, Team incl HCi,FSC Club Nicnlher, we aro
concerned about the situation With the Braenlilr ice prioritization.
A1111ottgll I undersittnd there is limlitecl ice tirrlc and that LIIA is looking out for their association deeds, here
are a rew key points I bvotild like to wilvey:
• The proposed reduction of hours Tuts our club and specifically (lie synchro team at risk Without a 110111C
club, This is ft big dil'lerence tlUill 111 illCOI1VCIliCllCC Which is discussed by the V'I1t1.
• The ag,rcemcrtt nikIdC just last year to 11011) Cover part of the cost of the I lorncts Nest in eschunge Ibr ice
priority is not being hollored
• The fact that the I?dina Parks and ]recreation would propose taking time 1roin the Syllchro tefml
specifically without the agreenlent ol'the BC;`lJ SC" Icudership is not a model ol,cooperation
• r1 Fourth sheet ol'ice its \Y is mentioned at the city council meeting. This should be reviewed hel6re thio
decision is macre about this prioritization as it has a major impact.
1 look. P01 -Ward to ft Coil) promise tilld resolution soon its this in catising much concern for the skaters and their
l.anlilies.
Respectfully,
George and Susan Hadjiyanis
5608 St. Andrews Avenue
Edina, MN
952-922-4957
Susan Howl
Subject. All Hockey All The Time
Hi lint, Joni, Josh, Ann & Mary & Brian & Scott,
I like hockey. But not All Hockey All The Time. Thank you for considering the disparate Impact on the
organizations of the changes under consideration re Braemar ice time, What about the Edina Hockey
Association and Edina High School hockey?? They will be OK. They will survive. They are doing fine. My two
older kids are Edina class of 7010 and 2013. Believe tile, we are well aware that boys hockey won state. in
2010 and 2013 and we are proud of it. It's fun and exciting. Still doesn't beat Edina East 1974 state hockey
champs, best team ever. I am Edina East Class of 1975 and we value the hockey program, the participation by
boys and girls of all ages and the community support for the hockey program, especially whr.n it is run.
So we like hockey. But if the City decides to go back ora this ice time deal, this action could effectively destroy
the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club. As anyone can see by their records and participation levels, the
hockey associations are not about to be decimated. Your action could wreck the figure skating club. The EHA
and school teams are not about to be wrecked, far from it. They just want MORE.
So it's a disparate impact and to me that is very important. It is also a disparate impact oil women. Most of
the figure skating club is worsen. Yes, more girls are playing Edina hockey these days. My daughter played
the first year 2nd and 3rd grade girls were added to the program & it teammate from that team was a senior
on the Edina girls FIS varsity hockey team 2012-2013. It's true girls hockey has come a long way. Back at the U
of MN in fall 1975, there was NO women's hockey team, only intramural hockey for women, and look at the U
of MN women's hockey now. They are champions. Other women are internationally recognized figure
skaters.
I hope we in the City of Edina can find a way not to destroy the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club in
our preoccupation obsession adulation of All Hockey All The Time. We get it, hockey is popular, but it's not
the only thing that matters here. Since you guys are all interested in local politics and elections and what
voters are saying - i ask you to reflect on the 2009 Edina School Board election. A retired FHS teacher (Lanni
S.) beat out incumbent school board member and Edina Hockey Association coach (Jeff J.) What are the
voters saying here? They value diversity and various points of view? I think so. They are tired of hockey that
can sometimes act like they are just the big gorilla in the room? Hockey gets what they want when they want
it? It's too much of a good thing.
For the 2009 School Board Election, the Edina League of Women Voters hosted ONE candidate forum - just
one. It was the ONLY public forum opportunity for the voters to ask questions and hear from the
candidates. Probably it was a Tuesday night. ALL candidates showed up EXCEPT ONE who had peewee hockey
PRACTICE, l-oo busy to meet the voters and hear their questions because of peewee hockey practice? That
tells me something. It tells me about the self absorption and arrogance of the hockey world and their
judgment about balance.
What happened in that election"? What did the voters say? The retired teacher won by 15 votes (and she
picked up two more votes on the recount) and the hockey coach, who was the incumbent but did not
campaign much and did not even bother show up at the forum due to hockey practice lost
out. Surprise? Perhaps he thought his HOCKEY fame would coast him to school board re-election?? It
didn't. It didn't go over with the community, The hockey world came across to the voters as arrogant and sort
of like gorillas - they can do what they want when they want. Can they just do what they want when they
want? It's up to you to support access to the ice arena in light of the disparate impact on these different
groups. What are out values here?
My point is the community as a whole (and not just EDINA, but our Minnesota and City of Lakes community as
a whole) values more than the hockey program's access. People can see hockey is not going away, hockey is
thriving by any measure, and meanwhile the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club is in danger of being
essentially destroyed by a significant reduction in their ice time, it's that disparate impact thing, and a
disparate impact on individual women.
I hope you can do the right thing for everyone and balance the needs of various groups, which is not the same
thing as all hockey all the time. Stick with your commitment to the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skaini;
Club. 1 have no connection to them except what I see in the local paper. I value their contribution to tiro
community. It is a numbers thing - there are just not enough "elite" figure skaters anywhere in any one
suburb - of course their group has members who are not Edina residents.
Best regards to all,
Susan Khatri
Richmond Drive
Edina
Susan Howl
From: Lynette Blunno on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 10:43 AM
Cc: Susan Floud
Subject: FW Atin: Jim Hovland
Lynette Biunno, Receptionist
952-927-88611 rax 952-826-0389
IbiunrIO@EdinaMN,gpV ( www.EdiliaMN.gov
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--Original Message -----
From: Jennifer Halverson [maillq�,jjhalverson r comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 9:29 AM
To; Edina Mail
Subject: Attn: Jim Hovland
Mayor Hovland,
After reading today's article regarding Braemar ice timed find it hard to believe that there is even a " debate" over this
Issue.
1,323 hockey members that are 99% residents vs 196 members that is not even 50% residents?l
I have three children in hockey and drive ALL OVER the twin cities- do what's right for Edina and give the ice time to wllo.
deserves rdina ice time and who's numbers need itl Get on board with your citylI
Thank you
Jennifer Halverson
Sent from my Whone
Susan Howl
Subject: BCLFSC Club ice 'Time
I am writing to express my serious concerns about the proposal to cut the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club's ice time at
Braemar ice arena and to ask that the BCLFSC's current Ice times be maintained uritis additional ice Clan bei added at tie Braemar
arena. I understand a proposal is in the works to add a fourth sheet of ice at Braemar and that (his may provide a solution to the
Current issue over the Sharing of Ice time between the Edina Hockey Association and the BC115C.
I ani a long-time Edina resident and my 11 year old daughter skates in the BCLFSC chub and has been skating at lile(3raernar arentr
since she was a toddler. My daughter's BCLFSC chub membership has been an extremely important pari of herr development, helping
to build her athletic skills and self-confidence and teaching her important and valuable life lossons about commitment find healthy
competition. Wo have paid substantial sums over the years for our daughter to participate in the 13CLFSC, and we spend
considerable amounts of time at the Braemar arena each week so that our daughter can participate in the BCf.1=SC, We and other
BCLFSC families also contribute to the arena's success in other ways, such as by frequenting its concession stand and attending, Maid
events at the rink.
We already struggle with the current BCLFSC ice time so that our daughter can participate in BCI.FSC. My spouse and I art,. both
working parents, and current ice times, even those at 5:30 or 6:00 p.m., often require us to leave work early to pick up our daaugiiler
and get tier to the arena on time. hi addition, no evening or weekend time is available for the BCLFSC Club in the summers, aod,
therefore, we Currently can only have our daughter skate at 7 a.m. in the summers. In addition, our da ugh ter.cannot participate in
special club classes during the summer that are only offered in the middle of the work day.
Despite these difficulties, we dedicate significant time to getting our daughter to the Braemar arena multiple limes each week due
to her love of figure skating and the benefits that she obtains from being part of the BCLFSC. I ani extremely concerned that, if
current ice time is cut, the BCLFSC club will be discontinued. Alternatively, ice time may be cut in a wary that Maki s it oven more
difficult for all club members, but particularly those members with two workings parents, to participate in the BCLFSC. This result
would be devastating; for our daughter and other club members. In addition, the Braemar arena will lose the patronage ,and
associated revenue of numerous BCLFSC families that have been loyal visitors to and supporters of (tie arena.
I understand that (tie Edina Hockey Association and BCLFSC have been asked to try to work out a suitable arrangement for sharing
ice time by August 5th. I also understand, however, that the BUYSC.signed a 20 year ice time arrangement with the Braemar arena
that is not being honored. This agreement should be honored, and the solution appears to be to permit the BLFSC to maintain its ice
time under (he 20 year agreement until additional Ice can be added to the arena.
I ask you to take the necessary steps to ensure that the BCLFSC has sufficient ice time to continue at the Braemar arena arid to
permit all club niernbers sufficient ice time outside of working hours so that all F:dina youth can participate in the BCI.FSC.
Thank you,
Megan Anderson
(612)309-9018
Susan Howl
From: I_ynotlo Biunno on bohalf of Edina Mail
Swill: Monday, July 22. 2013 1,12 PM
Cc: Susan Howl
Subject: FW: Broomar issues
Lynette Biunno, Rocoptionist
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952-927-88611 FaX 952-826,0389
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From; )ulieA,Swenson[mailto:Juli�A.Swenson(catarget�cont]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar iSsueS
Dear Mayor Hovland,
My daughter is a figure skater at Breamar and I hone to keep her there. We moved to Edina to -add our daughter to the
Braemar figure skating program from the St.Paul Figure skating Club. Braernar is a top rated club and has produced
champions for decades. It's an incredible point of pride for the community and provides local kids with a wonderful
lifetime sport.
With the Parks and Rec department not honoring the agreement from August 2012, it will not be possible for me to
keep spending thousands of dollars each year in Edina.
In addition to countless hours of ice time, figure skating families employ coaches, we buy concessions at the rink, we buy
supplies at the Hornet's Nest store, we support businesses near the rink and we are invested In our community. We pay
the same taxes on our overpriced Edina houses as the hockey families. It Is not fair that the figure skating, families wotold
lose so much Ice time that we could not keep our club when hockey gets more and more resources each year.
We are a 52 week sport, hockey is not. We fill the parking lot every week, spend money at the rink every week. Hockey
doesn't.
Hockey can play at any of the rinks in town. There are several, indoor and outdoor, within a mile of Braemar. They can
get ice time outdoors even, Figure skating can't.
Thanks,
Julie
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kaslner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject; FW: Use of Braemar Arena
This message has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
952-826-0342 1 Fax 952-826-0389
ekastner@EdinaMN.pav I www.EdinaMN.go_v
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-----original Message -----
From: Steve Soderling jrnailto:sody@Q.comj
Sent: Thursday, July 1.8, 2013 10:36 PM
To: Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsp kig.,@edirtarealty.com; swensonannl .f;rnail.coni
Cc; Edina Mail; 4onibennettl2Pcomcast.net; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Use of Braemar Arena
My name is Steve Soderling and I grew up in Edina and was fortunate enough to play both youth and high school hockey
in Edina. In addition, I'm currently an Edina resident and father to four youth hockey players ranging in age from 11-5
year old. I'm entailing you to state my strong desire that the Edina youth boys and girls hockey players have greater
access and proportionate allocation of ice time at Braemar Ice Arena, The lack of ice causes many players to consider
alternative venues and programs where they have more consistency and convenient rinks, which is a shame for our
tradition rich program and facility, Thanks.
Steve Soderling
Tonka [lay Equity Partners
952-345<2031 (work)
612-803-3477 (mobile)
ssoderling@tonkabaxeguity.CoIII
Susan Howl
From: Emilia Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12;05 13M
Subjects Ft1U7 Priority Use Agreement fot Braemar arena
This mews rge has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
052 826.0347 1 rax 052-826-0380
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From: Christine Henninger [mailto:Christine.Nennin_,.ger i inills.com]
sent: Tuesday, ,)uly 16, 2013 12:42 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibenngttl2Cc�conicas :rpt; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshs r ue cleciinareal .coat ;
swensonannitngmail,com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar arena
Dear Honorable Mayor of Edina, City Council members, City Manager and Edina harks and Recreation Director,
I am writing to communicate my support for a proportionate distribution of ice time related to the percentage of Edina
Residency for both the EHA and the 13CLFSC, and as FHA is a priority f!3 user, the ability to fill our ice needs before a
Priority 4 or 5 user.
As a 20 year Edina resident, I've paid taxes to support Braernar arena and am happy to continue to do so. As the parent
of two members of the EVIA, I've also driven my children to many surrounding suburbs for practice ice time. However,
when I corgpare the size of EHA to BCLFSC and percentages of Edina residents between the two I can't help but feel like
the current system of ice time clistribution is unfair,
I encourage you to help us in the EHA understand why our families muSt travel outside Edina for the majority of our
practice time while members of the 13CLFSC do not, and in fact travel from outside Edina to use facilities we would love
to have more thiie on!
Thank you for your consideration and service to our community. We're a better place because of it
Regards,
Christine Henninger
5816 Jeff Place
Edina, MN 55436
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kaslner on behall of Edina Mail
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 201:3 9:22 AM
Subject: FW: Braemar Arena
This rnessage has been forwarded to the Mayor, City Council and the Parks & Recreation Director.
Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
952 826•03A2 1 Fax 952-826-0389
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From: Paul F. Puerzer [mallto:p-puerzer n sn�cecerttc_rinc:com:)
Sent., Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:50 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar Arena
Mayor Hovland
Thanks again for meeting with us the other day and for your thoughtful and valuable input during the city council
meeting last night. While I was not able to attend I did manage to stay Lip late enough to watch the issue disct15Sed On
television. t really must commend you and our city officials not only for your accessibility but your tireless efforts on
behalf of Edina.
We remain hopeful that EHA and BCLFSC will find a cooperative solution to the more immediate ice time issues at the
Braemar Ice Arena. Longer term we wonder if a fourth sheet of ice might not be able to leverage the existing
infrastructure and provide both EHA and BCLFSC with the additional capacity to better serve their members.
How cauld we go about determining if any feasibility studies on this issue were ever performed? Is there someone
within the city government that you Would recommend we contact to more fully explore this idea?
Qlauf rl'uerrzer
Space Center, Inc.
2501 Rosegate
St. Paul, MN 55113
(651) 604-4211 Fax (651) 604-4222
nnuerzer@snacecenterinc.com
www.s an ceCehterinc.com
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Susan Howl
From:
Ann Katlreh
Sent:
Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:01 AM
To:
Susan Howl
subject:
Fwd: elm ice
Attachments:
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Begin Iitnvarded tl]essage:
Front: Kaylin (Martin <Icnaartin<<rfl ding\'1N.�o�'>
Daw July 17. 2013, 2:34:01 111M CDT
To: 'MIC IAld., 1)0'I'"4'S' <iii )ott;s65K8(ii'=,nisn.coni>
Cts: Anti Kattt•ch <t�hattrchkr),I dinaA�ih,�uv�
Sttb,jecf: RE.. Chi) ice
Thank you for your interest in the City of Edina.. Your message was forwarded upon receipt to Ann
Kattreh, 952-820-0430. If you do not hear from her within a reasonable amount of time, please feel free to
contact her directly. If I can be of additional assistance, please contact me.
J Kaylin Martin, Communications Coordinator
952.833.9537 1 Fax 952.826.0389
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From: MICHAEL P017S [maiito.-D1poLts6588 m_ 1 co,�]
Sent:: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:04 PM
To. Edina Mail
Subject: eho ice
Please allow an equal amount of ice access to our kids for
hockey as -the figure skaters have. I' m a 25 year veteran of
youth hockey. Until I read the facts on how lop sided the ice is
in favor of .the figure skaters I wouldn't have believed it! I'm
in [favor of the changes EHA is proposing. They are years overdue
Thanks,
Michael. Potts
Fusion Home Improvement
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612/386-5999
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f=rom: Ann Kaltreh
Sant: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:00 AM
To: Susan Howl
Subject: Fwd: Ice priority use
I'10aso l"tlrward
Begin Jbi-warded message:
From, Kaylin 1%9tlrtin <knlairtitAiiEdiiloNi1\.!ov>
Date: July 17, 2013, 2:34:18 PM CDT
To: 'Role Gousch' -,ro t7ttsclttrr !orc.ccrnl>
Cc: Ann Katti`eh = \Katuchfu'l:clinililll�. +�>
Suh,ivet: RE: lee priority= use
Thank you tilt your interest in thr. City «i' lidina, Your m0ssab0 was tr)rwat'dctl ul)an r0caipt to
Ann Kultreh. 952-826-0,130. U* You do not hear From 1101. within a reasonable amount ol'time,
please led tree to contact her directly. If f can be ohidditional assistance"Please contract Inc.
Kaylin i\7alrtill, Communications Coordinator
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SCllt: '1't1eSday, .tiny 16, 2013 6:14 I'M
To: Edina Mail
Subject: lee 1)1'iority USC
IN/Ir. I IovIall d,
JUSt a quick note as a 1 dins resident, tax payer and parent ol'a youth hockey player, I understand
the importance of equality Icer all, I also believe strongly that the residents of Melina should
receive some priority in 1.l city operated Icicility. Please 11011) CllSIlt•G that OIll-)VSidelltS allld ChildIVI1
have proper representation on this subject. 1 hope our local children have priority.
Thank you l01' your consideration,
Also thank you Rol• the c011611uctl W011(ICITUl Ica1d01.ship ol'S101 al l realt COI11111Ullity.
Rospeot t'u11y.
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Susan Howl
From Ann Katkeh
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:59 AM
To: Susan Howl
Subject: Fwd: RE:
Please lilrward to Council
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Date: July 17, 2013, 2:37:5:53 NO CDT
TO: 'Ivieghall VElil Solllerell' <jvansomcren(J1Woud.com>
Cc: Ann Kattreh <r1K,itU'cia 1 dinal�,lN gv>
Subject, Rh:
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rtinn KaUI'cil, 952-8264431 iryou do not hum Am Im' Within a retasonta)lc ,amount 01*timc.
lllcstSC I el We to contact her dhvcdy Vi can be oradditional assistance, please eorIlact Inc;.
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Sent: '1'uesdav, ,1Ll1Y 16, 2013 3:52 Pivl
'ro: Edhia Mail
Subject:
I support 1 -A -1A position
Thank you
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Susan Howl
From:
Ann Kattreh
Sent:
Thursday, July 18, 7013 7'59 AM
To:
Susan Howl
Subject:
Fwd: proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation Department regarding ice ailocaiton for Bracmar Arena.
Attachments;
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Please forward to Council
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kaylin Martin <kmartinRe EdlnaMN.koy>
Date: July 17, 2013, 2:38:08 PM CDT
To: 'Mark Jeziersl<i' <.rllje'zierslci r nmtherinaiscience.cor7i>
Cc: Ann Kattreh <AI<attreh@ , linaMN.gay>
Subject: RE: proposal from the Edina harks and Recreation Department regarding ice allocation for
Braemar Arena.
Thank you for your interest in the City of Edina, Your message was forwarded upon receipt to Ann
Kattreh, 952-826-0430. If you do not hear frorn her within a reasonable amount of time, please feel free to
contact her directly, If 1 can be of additional assistance, please contact me. .
J Kaylin Martin, Communications Coordinator
952.833-95371 Fax 952-820-0389
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Sent: Tuesday, :July 16, 2013 3:39 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation Department regarding ice allocation for Braernar
Arena.
Mayor Hovland,
My family and I have been residents of the City of Edina for the past 10 years. I was recently made
aware that the Edina City Council will be asked to act on a proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation
Departmentregarding ice allocation for Braemar Arena. After having a chance to review the facts of the
proposal I must say that I am very disappointed in the Departments recommendations.
I understand the reason and have no issue with a Priority Use Policy, further I have no issue with
departments order/ranking of the priorities. What I am disappointed, do net agree with, cannot make
sense of.., is the department's recommendation that would allow a " Priority 11 4" user Braemar City of
Lakes Figure Skating Club (BCLPSC) to first fulfill its ice needs prior to a "Priority It 3" user Edina Youth
Athletic Association being allowed to purchase any available ice. Besides the obvious disregard to their
priority ranking designations this recommendation sloes not reflect a fair allocation of ice based on
participants or Edina residency.
I assume that others have provided you the facts that this decision was based on. I would be interested
to hear the rational, justification... of the Departments recommendation based upon the following;
I3CLFS has 128 members, 40% of which are Edina residents for a total resident population of 51.
Y I:HlI has 1,323 members (350 girls, 973 boys), 99% of which are Edina residents or attend Edina
schools for a total resident population of 1,310.
The City of Edina's youth athletic association residency requirement is 90% and was adjusted to
50% for the Edina Swim Club.
BCLFSC currently rents 700 hours and
r EHr1 currently rents 2,000 hours per season at Braemar for a total of 2,700 hours.
y BCLFSC's 700 hours are prime time Monday — Sunday and do not include any Friday, Saturday or
Sunday night time slots.
The average Edina youth hockey player receives about 1 (tour per weak at Braemar
o Then spends 3.4 hours at other arenas around the metro.
The average figure skater receives nearly 4 hours of ice per week at Braemar.
I have two young children who out of the blue wanted to "try" hockey last year. I must admit that I was
skeptical going in as I myself never played the sport and had heard varying stories about the culture,
etc. I cannot say enough about what a wonderful experience it was for my children and our family.
have no idea (nor do I care) if this is something that they will continue to want to participate in for
years. The point being is not the "The mission of the Edina Park rind Recreation Department is fo.do our
pori in further developing, preserving, and maintaining the City of Edina`s parks, recreation programs,
and resources as o premier and comprehensive park and recreation department in the Twin Cities area."
I would think that a reasonable expectation is that the Park and Recreation Department make a
recommendation that would best represent the interests of our City and your constituents. Therefore, I
would ask that you do not approve the Departments current recommendation and push for one that is
based on a proportionate distribution of ice time related to the percentage of Edina residency for 711 €
groups and, that higher "Priority Users" have the ability to fulfill their ice needs before a Priority 114 or 16
User.
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Best regards,
Mark
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Sub}eat: Fwd; Braemar Arena Use Policy
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Cc: Ann Katireh <AKitt reh(ME'dinaMN•wy>
SubJect: RE: Bracrosir Aremi Use Policy
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Subiect: Braemar Arena Ul e Policy
The I lonorablc .Bones Hovland,
As 6 parent of two 1_.dina hockey association participants and Ml Edina resident, I \Votlid like to
sec groltps containing a greater percentage ol'i ding residents be given Bracmar Ice Arena
scheduling priority over groups with 1:1 fewer percc mage ol'residenis.
I dp not support tilt current proposii1 to allOW BRIC111i1r I..akcs l i urc Sh irlg CIL) a higher ice
scheduling priority than liilina I Lockey Association at Bratlnmr Arena. (,'mul)s that Contain it
higher percentage ol'I Bina city residents should receive priority scheduling over those that (to
not. '1'11,1111\1, 101• gout• Col1SidCt'iltloll.
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Susan Howl
From: Ann Kattreh
Sent: Thursday, .July 18, 2013 7:68 AM
To: Susan Howl
Subject: Fwd: Regarding Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
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Subject: illi,: Itegar-ding Priol-ity Use Agrcanent for 13ravmar Arena
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Subject: Regarding Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
hillies-
t strongly agree that something needs t0 he balanced out when over 50%, ol' the higure Skating
Participants arc 11•0111 outside Edhlil. I've always thought it was odd that the nlaiority oPaur FA IA
ice time is outside of 13raernar.
Andy
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Susan Howl
From: Kaylin Martin -tkniarthiftEdinaMN.nov>
Date: July 3.7, 2013, 2:44:21 PM CDT
To: 'Stacey Lovell' <Stacey.Lovelln penmills.com>
Cc: Ann Kattreh <AKattreh@EdInaMN.rov>
Subject: RE: priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
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From: Stacey Lovell (r aift Stacey. Lovelenmills.con
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 20:13 3:06 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
Dean Mr. Hovland,
My son is a 2"(1 grader attending one of our great local elementary schools. He has participated in IHHA
since the past 2 years and will start his third year this fall. My husband has coached every year and
our whole family loves being par( of the EHA community.
I have often wondered why we have to go to other arenas for Ice time or rarely have prime ice time. I
was really disappointed to receive the statistics on the reason why. T am hopeful that you can help
support reaching a mutually beneficial solution that offers more equality in ice time,
For reference, here vire the facts provided to me:
BCLFS has 128 members, 40% of which are Edina residents for a total resident population of 51. EHA
has 1,323 members (350 girls, 973 boys), 99% of which are Edina residents or attend Edina schools
for a total resident population of 1,310. The City of Edina's youth athletic association residency
requirement is 90% and was adjusted to 60%n for the Edina Swim Club. The BCLFSC currently rents
700 hours and EHA currently rents 2,000 hours per season 7t Braernar for a total of 2,700 hours. The
BCLFSC's 700 hours are prime time Monday - Sunday and do not Include any Friday, Saturday or
Sunday night time slots. The average Edina youth hockey player receives about I hour per week at
Braeniar and spends 3-4 hours at other arenas around the metro. The average figure skater receives
nearly 4 hours of ice per week at Braemar.
Thank you for your consideration as you meet this evening.
Take care,
Stacey Lovell
CHA Parent
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EDI\A IIUi't EIN, ASSOCIATION,
July 15, 2013
To; The Honorable James Hovland, Mayor of Edina
The Honorable Joni Bennett, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Mary Brindle, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Josh Sprague, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Ann Swenson, Edina City Council Member
Mr. Scott Neal, Edina City Manager
Ms. Ami Ka ttreh, Edina Parks and Recreation Director
Dear All:
Last week the Edina Hockey Association (FHA) was presented with the Parks and Recreation
Department's recommendation for the Priority Use Policy for Braemar Arena (recommendation included
with this email), After reviewing the policy and the facts, the FHA is unable to support the Departrtient's
recommendations as a long-term solution to ice allocation.
The recommendations do not reflect a fair allocation of ice based on participants or Edina residency nor
does it adhere to the actual proposed policy. In fact, it contradicts the recommended Priority Use Policy
by allowing the Braemar City of Lakes figure Skating Club (BCLFSC) to first fulfill its ice needs prior to the
EHA being allowed to purchase any available ice (BCLFSC's priority status would be f14 while EFTA priority
status would be 113).
The FHA is, however, in full support of the Department's recommendation for ire allocation (option 113 —
20 hours/week) but for this next season only and as the beginning of a transition to a fair long-term
solution.
The options for a long-term solution could take one of two paths. First, the FILA would support
following the Priority Use Policy where it denotes the EFTA would be listed as Priority 113 and be allowed
to choose hours and fulfill the needs of its resident participants before any Priority 114 or 115 organization
is allowed to buy ice. The second option could encompass some fair, negotiated solution involving
Braemar Arena, BCLFSC and the EHA. Braemar Staff has facilitated conversations and a meeting/call
with all affected parties. The .E• HA is open to providing the BCLFSC ice hours it has procured at other
rinks to help offset any flours lost at Braemar, if acceptable to them.
What are the facts? BCLFS has 128 members, 40% of which are Edina residents for a total resident
population of 51. GLIA has 1.,323 members (350 girls, 973 boys), 99% of which are Edina residents or
attend Edina schools fora total resident population of 1.,31.0. The Edina youth athletic association
residency requirement is 90% and was adjusted to 60% for the Edina Swim Club. The BCLFSC currently
rents 700 hours and EHA currently rents 2,000 hours per season at Braernar for a total of 2,700 hours.
The BCLFSC's 700 hours are prime time Monday — Sunday and do not include any Friday, Saturday or
Sunday night time slots.
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EHA Response to Braemar Arena Priority Use Agreement
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Even though the 13CLFSC does not meet the residency requirement of 90%, if the 2,700 hours were
divided based on the pro -rata resident population of each organization, the EHA would be allowed to
purchase 96% of the hours or 2,592 hours. The remaining 108 hours (approximately 5 hours per week)
would be allocated to BCLESC, Since the Parks and Recreation Department is proposing 20 hours per
week for the BCI_FSC, 4 times the number of hours based on residency, the EHA can't support the
proposal as a long-term policy.
In addition, the FHA provides significant financial support to the recent Braemar Arena expansion. Last
year, the EHA agreed to a $20 per participant user fee subject to the execution of an overall priority
usage agreement between Braemar Arena and the Edina Hockey Association. With our .1,323
participants, the EHA is contributing more than $26,000 per year to help cover the cost of financing the
Hornet's Nest. More importantly, the EHA has entered an agreement with Velocity Hockey to purchase
approximately 800 hours per year of dryland training, At a cost of $1.75 per hour, we are committed to
pay $140,000 per year to Velocity to help them meet their financial obligations to the City. In addition,
the vast majority of the retail goods available at General Sports are hockey -related and out, member
purchases are critical to helping them meet their financial obligations to the City. Combined, the EHA is
contributing $200,000+1- per year in support of the Hornet's Nest. The total contribution the EHA will
be making in support of this facility over the next ten years will exceed $2,000,000.
Lastly, each year we survey our members formally and informally. Parents from all levels, especially the
Edina families new to hockey, comment that they would like more Ice time and experiences at their
home rink, Braemar. None of the member families enjoy driving all over town to other rinks, especially
Mariucci and. Ridder on the U of M campus, where they oftentimes need to pay for parking and have the
hassle of driving during rush hour.
The EHA has been fortunate to have such a large resident participation in our program and have had
more than 1,000 members for the past 10 years and do not forecast that to change. As we've grown,
we've had to get creative in how we provide a beneficial experience for our member residents. This has
included proactively securing ice time at other facilities and incorporating dryland and other off -ice
training methods.
1 will be out of town and not able to attend the City Council meeting so I extend my apologies in
advance. However, several of our members will be in attendance and I've asked Bob Pauly, ENA Board
member and Co -Chair of our Girls Hockey Committee, to address the Council in my absence.
The EHA has been a tradition in I_dina since 1957. As we move into our 56rr' year, we thank VOL] for your
support of the first-rate facilities we have in Edina and look forward to a more proportionate amount of
ice time at Braemar based on Edina residency of its participants.
Sincerely,
Ron Green
EHA president
SUSan How)
Dear City Council Members,
I a1n \writing you as a repreSt`ntati t Or to Braemar City or lmkes Figure Sk£►ting Clot in the absonce Oluur
Club President, Brian Hedberg. It has conte to Illy attention this punning that a new" Priority the Polka+ (or
Braemar Arena" proposal is up far approval at nc,\t 'I'ucsday'S City COLInCil lltecting,
'('his proposal is audlored by Ann Kattrch, Parks and iteemation Director, and relates to the 13rac11lar City or
I akes Figure; Skating (.*fill) in its recoulmendaoms lily ice allocation and a Priority Use Policy li)r 13rarmar
Arena, where our figure skating club has nmde its home: for over 117 years, when the Arena was built in 1965,
We strongly plead that the Cily Council delay discussion of this issue, allot that continuance be given until the
August 6th City Council meeting lin• the lollOW1119 reasons;
fligh importance of this platter to the viabilify Of the Br aernar City Of Lakes Figure Skating
Club.'Che proposal recommends significant reduction price little. and lowering orprbrity Use OI ice at
13raenlar Arent, \Shicll will negatively arlcct the viability of' this nationally and internationally-kni)\vn
ligum skating club. lrtilis proposal passes, l: dhm residents will have to look to communities outside
I;dho Car figure skating, as the Club will no longer be able to exist.
Issue requires mU11opsll nttentfon, given IUHc reaction time. The Bond was just entailed the new,
proposal this rnortimg, 'Che Board or Dh-emors has had itl Wncimit time to pl•operly review this propilsal
in Order to erleetively prepare an i11lol'llled response, Sindlady. a prior PHor(ty Ilse Proposal %ms
einuiled U) the 1 umA Prenklou on .home 11, 2011 the aRemoon belbre It was presented to the Park Board
oil .tune 12, 0013,
Absence o(' Board President, Brian Hedberg. President I Icdberg is Out Orthe country Ior a thl•ce-week
international trip, and has bCcn unable to have regular cotmnunicatioil \with the Board On (his issue. I lis
leadership on this issue is essential (or the Club, given his a live participation and history On all
discussions related t0 this IgAc \001 the General Niniager oI'll r£acri i r Arcria. Therefore. we urge the
City Council to delay evaluation and discusAm, 0i'lllis Ill£ltlel' until alter his return to the United States
tilt week orJuly 22nd.
We £Ile gratelitl fol' your nUelltioll 10 this Urgent Illatter as the governing board ol'our city, Anti, we resileeldly
ask the Etna C by Council to grant 13raenlar city orIalkes Figure Skating Club a.continuance oil this "Priority
Use Policy lar Braemar Arena" proposal until the August Nh City Council n1cil tvicelnlg. We would appreciate
Cpllfn`Illati011 Or 1110 SMILIS or the continuance decision,
Respectfully submitted,
zs
ROs Wright
viec-President„ 131-acnlar City of lakes figure. Skating ClUb
Deb Man en
Subject: FW: Brarmar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2013 9:2.7 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2Ca�comcastme ; Maty Brindle (Comcast); joshspraclue a edinarealty,coin;
swensonann 1 ralcJnail,cam
Cc: Moral
Subject: Braemar City of Lakes f=igure Skating Club
Dear Honorable \,layor and Council Members,
I have becti at Braemar fee Arena for as long as I can remember. I put my first pair of rental skates on at
age 5 and have loved doing it ever since. Nine years After my very first city class, and I am still on the ice a
millillll1111 of one hour n day, and over five times a Wcek, just during the school year. Ill the Summer I Kine there
from t) ani to 2 pill skating at least two or till -cc hours a day..] stay with lily fellow skaters, who arc not only my
hest friends, but also my teammates.
I and proud to say I skate at Braemar City of Fakes figure Skating Club in Edina and as a resident of file
city, and I have taken full advantage of what is offered to life as a figure skater. I buy shacks at the concession
stand and tit the vending machine, use the ballet rooms With a private instructor or With my friends and my tears
and of course the ice.
11lis year swill be my third year skating on Team Braemar, and it has been more than amazing. 'rhe girls
oil Illy will are my best friends m7tl Illy family. I trathluily (1on't knOW What 1 would do without. skating, or
synchro, I look ill) to the older girls on the Junior Team (tile highes(, not to mention best team in Minnesota).
They till seem to have a blast on and off the ice. They arc the role models I hope to be one clay. it has been illy
goal to be on the Junior Team since .1 Wns about 10 and I want to support my home club. Even when illy tetun
last year split off to go to another team elsewhere, I stayed loyal to Braemar and my team.
If hockey were to take any more of our "prime ice", most Of Out' members would leave. Figure skating is
a completely dil:l:erent sport than hockey, we need a coach to be competitive alld they wont go left and right just
lied sessions, and since Bracmar is one of the best clubs, (in Illy opinion at least) why leave?
If any sessions were to be taken away from BCLFSC the club will collapse, ill the summer it is the
figure skaters that support the Rink. We have sessions from seven until two o'clock plus a two to three day
competition ill two rinks, just in the Stimmer. Hockey has a couple practices for the more "dedicated" teams rind
maybe a couple of cl inics but overall not CVell close to the hours We have.
Our sessions last 50 ttl.inates, and during the school year they start at 3, and then the lost session starts at
6, l can't skate at the three because my school ends later, and the four o'clock session isnot my level yet. I have
to skate the 5 or 6 o'clock session for my schedule to work. If any of the later sessions wore to be taken away,'
which I lulow is what hockey wants, it would be impossible for ale to skate. I kalow I am not the only one in this
situation.
Anyways if there are two sessions it day, and people skate up to two sessions a day everyday of the
school week, there would be way to many people oil the ice. It is impo."ible to have a session with over 25
people, acid if some days with 4 sessions they are lull how would it work with even less ice time?
wheal J say :I skate people always think of hockey first, and then usually look at Ilio 'funny when .I say I
figure skate. Hockey is obviously more popular than figure skating, especially in Minnesota. I love skating and
why would Edina want to take nay favorite sport out. of the city because hockey players believe that their sport is
better. I think that we should be able to keep our ice because figure skating is just as amazing as hockey, Edina
Hockey has won state, but Alex Johnson has competed at nationals, Colette Kaminski has competed at .Tumor
Olympics and Team Braemar has been Team USA for over 7 years,
Overall if we were to give 1113 every single one of oor sessions, it still wouldn't be enough for it to
support all of )~dins Hockey's needs. We only use one rink, while they use two. And even that rink gets taken
away often for hockey tournaments, or even just practices. I skated last school year on Saturday mornings and
around 6 or more times illy ice has been taken away because hockey tool: over our one rink, because two isn't
enough for them. No amount oi' ice that i-ve give to hockey will be enough for them.
I really hope you take into consideration what the rest of my club and I have been saying, and let its keep
our ice! Thank you so much
Stephanie Makredes, Age 14
4916 West Sunliyslope Road
Edina, MN 55,174 N.
Deb Mannen
From:
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Sent:
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:09 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
City Proposal for Braemar Arena
Follow Up Flag:
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Clear Mayor Hovland,
My game is Paul Molitor and I have been living; primarily In Edina since I moved back to Minnesota 17 ).-cars
ago. My daughter Julia is in her 6th year of skating at Bracniarand currently competes as both a freestyle and
Synchronized Skater.
We all know the parallel oflife and sport and figure skating has been the teacher of nitro), of these parallels to
my daughter. Goal setting, work ethic, discipline, being accountable, overcoming adversity, perseverance,
respecting your Peers as well as your competitors. The list goes on and on. Bracniar City (Wakes figure
Skating Club has been it huge part of these critical, developmental years for her.
Don't get use wrong, I love hockey. I remember as a kid growing up in StYaul in the 60's and 70's watching;
the State High School hockey tournaments and wondering to myself, can anyone beat Edina? The fact that the
PRIA has over 1300 member in their progra in is incredible. Bw this isn't just about numbers. If it was, figure
skating would be declining; all around our counitry, btu it's not. The (-Lith is, the percentage of hockey players to
figure skaters will always be lopsided and the numbers here in Edina merely reflect wl}ich is true across
the Nation.
The BCLFSC has been a vital part of Edina culture for nearly 5 decades. We are recognized for tigul•e Skating
excellence here, nationally and around the world. I felt a great sense of pride in 2012, when tit the National
Synchronized Skating championships in Boston, my daughter skated out to the announcement,
"riow, representing the Bracniar city of Lakes.Figure Skating Club from Edina, Minnesota, please welcome
Team Braieniar."
I would ask that you would take this opportunity in making this very important decision to send the proper
niessages. Firstly, support diversity of choice for young athletes. Our aCCCSS to Braemar Arena is critical, not
only to tile; success of our club, but [lie survival of it. Secondly, the importance of keeping one's word. I.
understand that tin agreement was reached for the skating club to keep the ice times that we have bard in the past.
As part of that we have agree(] to have all of our skaters contribute $20 to the Hornets nest bund which primarily
benefits the EIIA.
The City proposal being Considered represents a huge downside ,tor BCLFSC and very little upside 1'or EHA.
It would eliminate Team Braemar its it major, international competitor and severely damage the chances cif'
individuals who dream of becoming State, National, and even Olympic Chanip'lons. Remember, we are talking
about Braennar Arena not Braemar I -Lockey Arena.
In conclusion, I want to emphasize the importance of preserving and maintaining a skating conntntmity within
Edina that includes BCLFSC as a Legacy Club. I trust you will ensure that the proud tradition of BCLYSC will
be perpetuated for generations to corne, Your service, as well as your consideration of this matter is greatly
appreciated,
Respectfully,
Paul Molitor
6725 Iroquois Circle
Edina, RN 55439
612-655-0321
Del) Mangen
From:
Emma Swenson
sent:
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5M PM
To:
Wina Mail
Subject:
Figure Skating Ice Time
Follow 01) Flag:
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Dear Mayor James Hovland,
My name is Emma Swenson and I am a member of the Braemar City of Lake
Figure Skating Club (BCLFSC). I have been skating at Braernar since I was three
years old. Figure skating is my passion and my favorite sport. It is competitive,
active, physically challenging, and most of all, fun.
People may say that figure skaters should join hockey and they are almost the
same sport, But they are very different. Figure skating is a graceful sport and
hockey is physical. I have never like being in physical sports. I play soccer for illy
school and used to play for Edina, but I have never liked running into people. I just
don't like hurting people. It makes me feel guilty. I don't know why, but that"s how I
am.
The Edina Hockey Association wants to reduce Our ice hours to about 10
hours a week. With 130 skaters, and only a maximum of 22 people on the ice at a
time, each skater would only get to skate about I hour and 35 minutes of skating
time a week, But a figure skater needs 2-3 hours a week to maintain their skills, and
3-4 hours or more a week to gain new skills.
I feel like figure skating is in my blood. Both of my older sisters skate and they
loved it as Much as I do. My oldest sister skated at Braemar for 12 years and my
other sister skated there for 14 years. I am only 13 years old and I have already
skated there for 10 years and I really hope I can skate there for many more years to
come.
Please support the Braemar figure skaters and allow us to keep our ice hours.
Sincerely,
Emma Swenson
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Braemar Ice Issues - Please consider both of our teams as important parts of out communities.
Follow up
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Dear Mr. Hovland, Ms. Bennett, Ms, Brindle, Mr. Sprague, Ms. Swenson, Mr. Neal, Ms. Kattreh
We are sending this email to you for your consideration. As city residents for the past 10 years and
avid skating/hockey parents for the past 8, we are disheartened by what we see happening at
Braemar as reported In the Star Tribune this week. It would be so sad to lose our skating club which
is steeped In history and is a unique part of our great city.
As both hockey and figure skating parents, we understand the struggle for ice time, However, in this
case the answer is chrystal clear. The City and Arena made a 20 year good faith deal with the club,
known as BCLFSC, and one year later decided it "doesn't work"? Perhaps instead of state of the art
locker rooms, an additional sheet of ice should have been created.?
Edina has two great sports who call Braemar Arena home. Reducing the ice time for the figure skater
club will likely devastate the club's viability. Miller's suggestion of finding ice time elsewhere is
impossible (as she well knows) as other arenas are prevented in selling ice to a competing
club. BCLFSC has honored all of its commitments including financially supporting the new Hornet's
Nest locker rooms. In the past 8 years, BCLFSC has contributed $2.88M of revenue to the city and
Arena. The Annual Ice Show is a city staple and offers skaters of all ages and abilities the opportunity
to participate. The current proposal that I am aware of will remove all weekend ice and the bpm
7pm slot. It is a drastic reduction and out of proportion in terms of the sacrifice it will take from the
skating club. BCLFSC is a year round contributor, participating 51/52 weeks per year only yielding
the ice to hockey tournaments over Thanksgiving and Christmas. They have always been a good
partner to the Arena and city and now need that spirit of partnership and fair play returned to them.
In Minneapolis, Edina might be known for hockey, but outside of the city, state and country, Braemar
is known for figure skating. Synchronized Figure Skating is slated as a Olympic Demonstration sport
in the next winter Olympics. For the past several years our team has been Internationally recognized
as a US leader and even been awarded Team USA for the past several years. In 2016, Braemar will
host the Midwestern sectionals for Synchronized Figure Skating. It will be a shame to hold such a
prestigious event if we do not have any skaters to participate.
k,
BCLFSC is an important part of the community, and Its viability should not be at the mercy or whim
of a competing sport president, or arena manager. Now is the time for the City and the Arena to
live up to and honor its commitments to BCLFSC and not reduce the ice time or priority access,
Thank you for your consideration.
With Kind Regards,
Sue & Richard Johnston
SUO Johnston
Account Executive
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Microsoft Corporation
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 201311:37 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshspraguepa eclinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: BCLFSC/EHA Ice Issue
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
To:
The Honorable James Hovland
The Honorable Joni Bennett
The Honorable Mary Brindle
it
The Honorable Josh Sprague
The Honorable Ann Swenson
Mr. Scott Neal, Edina City Manager
Ms, Ann Kattreh, Edina Parks and Recreation Director
I am writing to request your support in maintaining the viability of the Braemar City of Lakes Figure
Skating Club via (a) upholding ethical, fair business practices (honoring the BCLFSC/Braemar Ice
Arena Agreement), and (b) valuing and encouraging diversity of sports organizations.
I understand the Edina Hockey Association needs more ice time, That is a significant issue.. I do not,
however, believe it is a fair, reasonable and/or ethical solution to go after BCLFSC for that ice time. I
strongly encourage the City to pursue other options/solutions that do not negate the Agreement, and
rather, provide a long-term solution that will meet the needs of both organizations.
The BCLFSC has become a "destination" figure skating club for skaters across the Twin Cities,
including my daughter. We are not Edina residents, which I know is part of the controversy.
However, we drive approx. 40 miles to train here because of the excellent culture, and quality of the
coaches and skaters. Why should Edina residents care about that? Here is why: Attracting and
retaining elite skaters outside of Edina contributes to BCLFSC's ability to offer an exceptional
program to Edina residents... which is a great benefit to the community. In addition, those coming
here are supporting Edina businesses through purchasing meals, gas, etc.
I think the reaction of a "neutral" person who read the recent Star Tribune article sums things up
nicely, and is the reaction of many people: "This whole thing is hard to believe. The problem with
negotiating a settlement is that the attacking party will gain and the defending party will give up some
concessions. When in reality the defending party (in this case the figure skaters) should not give up
anything they already have."
I am asking each of you to carefully consider the facts of this situation, and when the day is done...do
the "right thing" --- upholding fair and ethical business practices, and supporting/valuing diversity of
sports organizations.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have questions.
Regards,
Lynn Branch
1376 Hunters Ridge, Lino Lakes, MN 55038
(651) 426-4824
t:.
Deb Mauer
From: Loleen Lindeman �Ikllindeman cCiignnail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 201310A7 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcaso; joshspr ague@edinareality,cwn; swensoinannl
@gmail.com; Scott ideal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: in Support of t3raemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
Follow Up Flag: Follow tip
Flag Status: Completed
Dcar Members of the Edina City COLii)Cil:
I tun Nvriting to respectfully ask that you please alio%v the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club to
C011tinLlC their Use of (lie Bracmar Arenas. 1. do llot live ill 17(lina, in fact, I live in Apert Lea, iviinnesota. My
granddaughter and grandson use the Braemar Areata, our granddaughter in the figure skating club and our
grandson in hockey. Our grandchildren do not reside in Edina but live only 2 blocks From the L;dina city
border. They and their family, its well as lily husband and 1, shop in Edina and ('requent malty of Ile restatirants
there. It is a beautiful city and one you can be very proud of, i point ant (hese things so that you may consider
the revenue folks bring to your city, even tlloltgll they do not reside there. Many of our trips to your city iu•e to
watch out grandchildren nkat at F raenlru Arena, whether it be hockey or figure skating:
1 would ask thin,, it'anjt c)I1L O(' yoll ]las ,lot seed, the 1:31'ae11iar gills synchronized figure skating (e£im, you do so
either by letting them do a special performance for you or watch it tape of them performing, They are
awesome, and their performances bring tears of pride to lily eyes when I. lvntcll them even though I do not kllcl.W
them personally. I know that our granddaughter probably hopes to be a member of this group someday. She is
a beautiful, young, 8 year old skater; and we love %vatching our grandson get suited up .('or hockey tis well (he is
4 years old).
I understand flim Mina has a Long history of excellent championship hockey teams; but please consider the
excellent figure skating; champions Braemar and its coaches have produced, as well as this internationally
ace] aiined synchronized figure skating team. It will be a true loss to your city if they are forced to go elsewhere
all(I represent someone else.
Mrs. Loleen K. Lindeman
Proud figure skating; and hockey grandmother
Albert (sea, MN
Deb Manaen
From:
Talghader Vivien <vtalghader a@yahoo.com>
Sent;
Monday, July 29, 2013 10:55 PM
To;
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@conxast,net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joslisprague c@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
Cag%A.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Cc:
ice@braemartsc.org; jtalghader c@yahoo.com
Subject:
BCLFSC
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Bear Edina City Council -
We live in the city of Edina and have four children, two who have participated in the EHA and two who have participated in
BCLFSC: Having children in each of the two organizations, we feel uniquely qualified to weigh in on the matter of ice time
at Braemar.
While It would be nice to have more ice time at Braemar for our hockey player, we do not believe that the amount of time
that is being taken away from BCLFSC and given to EHA would result in such a great difference in his enjoyment of
hockey that it warrants crippling the operation of BCLFSC and much of the opportunity to figure skate for our daughter.
She is a current BCLFSC member and loves figure skating, but she is a casual skater - not one who. is striving for great
achievement in the sport (much like our son in hockey). Our family could not justify contracting for Sam or Gam skating
times during the school year when her performance in school is so important. Effectively a change that eliminated all
BCLFSC skating times after school and on weekends would mean In practice that she would not longer be able to skate.
With hockey, while we often groan at early Ice times, at least they are on the weekends where participation does not
interfere with our son's school schedule. With the hours currently being proposed for BCLFSC operation, we suspect
semi -casual skaters like our daughter will either reduce hours or stop skating altogether. Furthermore, we suspect more
accidents will occur as the few remaining useful skate times (e.g. 4-5pm after school) fill to maximum capacity.
We value Edina. There is essentially something for everyone in this city. We are concerned that by going down an
unsustainable path for BCLFSC, the figure skating for which Edina is known will disappear, and Braemar will revert to
being solely a hockey arena with still insufficient Ice tirne for ENA. We urge the city to find a solution that will prevent this
from happening.
Regards.
Vivien and Joseph Talghader
7504 Hyde Park Dr.
Edina, MN 55439
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Deb lvlangen
From: vblanton@Uluebotlle.com
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 9:41 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2.@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Conxast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com;swensonannl
@gmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kotlreh
Subject: In Support of 8CLFSC
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: completed
Bear Members of the Edina City Council,
I respectfully ask that you please continue to allow the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating
Club (BCLFSC) to co -exist just as they do today with the Edina Hockey Association (EHA) at
Braemar Arena.
I have an 8 -year old daughter who has been laced into skates since she was 3 -years old. She is
so proud to represent Braemar and your city as a full club skater, competing now at the
Beginner and Limited Beginner Compulsory levels. Last evening, when I told her there was a
real possibility that the club and her experience would cease to exist as it does today she cried.
BCLFSC is a local treasure. The skaters are gifted, the parents are committed and the coaches
are top shelf. My daughter has made some of her best friends there, crammed into the little
locker room with a random assortment of girls from all areas and of all ages who call Braemar
their home and who share dreams of the National titles, Each of them identified and selected
because they had exhibited the right kind of attitude, character and raw potential to succeed in
the sport.
I personally believe BCLFSC adds so much to the overall culture of the facility itself it cannot
simply be quantified in numbers and boiled down to headcounts and zip codes. Each time I set
foot in the environment after a hard day's work, it warms my heart to see the figure skaters co -
mingling with the hockey community and I'm so stunned (it bears repeating, so stunned) that
EI -IA has such disdain for BCLFSC that it would force a move likely to dismantle the
organization,
Please allow BCLFSC to remain in their home; Braemar.
Respectfully,
Valerie Blanton, BCLFSC Parent
Sent from Windows Mail
Deb Mangen
f=rom;
Lyle Larson <lyletarson@me.com>
Sent:
Monday, July 29, 2013 6:32 PM
To:
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@conicast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast);joshsprague@edinareatty.com; swensonannl
@gmall.com; Scott Neal, Ann Kattreh
Subject:
Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Chub
Attachments:
7CFSA Braemar.pcif; ATT00001.1i1m
Follow Up f=log: Fallow up
Flag Status: Completed
Please see the attached letter,
Thank you,
Deb Mangen
From:
Carrie and Tim Corsaro <earrie timCo)earthlink,net>
Sent:
Monday, July 29, 2013 7;95 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
Please save the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
Follow Up Flag:
Follow up
Flag Status:
Completed
Dear Mayor Hovland,
I am writing on behalf of both my 10 year old daughter, and our family, when I ask that you support the Braemar City of;
Lakes Figure Skating Club in your upcoming decision for use of the Braemar Arena, and vote to allow them some week
night and weekend }fours.
To only allow the figure skating club access to the arena from Sam -Spm on weekdays (no evenings or weekends) as is
being proposed by EHA, would prevent many kids the opportunity to figure skate. With school during the day and the
work schedule of many parents (I'm a working mother), you are basically taking this opportunity away from many kids
who want to pursue this sport. It saddens me that more Ice time would be given to the EHA,.when the hours they would
be.given would only be a small portion of what they need, and at the same time render the BCLFSC homeless. I say
homeless because a figure skating chub can not attract and retain quality coaches or a strong club membership without a
home rink that supports it. My daughter does not want to skate for the Bloomington, Eden Prairie or Minnetonka clubs,
just to name a few... she wants to skate for Braemar of Edinal
Our daughter started skating in the Saturday Basic Skills skating classes a few years ago after seeing the BCLFSC's annual
spring show.
She has thoroughly enjoyed progressing from the Saturday classes (taught by the figure skating coaches) to the
Wednesday night Jump and Spin class, and is now a member of the BCLFSC's junior club. She loves telling people that
she is a member of this Edina club and its association with Braemar arenal We live In Edina and are proud of the sport
diversity our city has to offer. We are proud that our daughter has the opportunity to pursue this individual sport and to
build her confidence as she takes the rink solo to compete and in a group at the ice shows!
It saddens me to have to tell my 10 year old that her sport is not valued in this community and that she may need to find
a new place to skate, Please think about who is being hurt by this decision. it is the kids.
Sincerely,
Carrie Corsaro, Sophie Corsaro (BCLFSC member) and Family
Deb Mannen
Front: MICI-IAE•L SMALLEY Ksmalleymk@rnsit com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 4:A6 PM
To, Edina Mail
Cc: jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@e<8nareaity.com; swensonannl@gmail.com; Scott
Ideal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Ice Issues at Braernar Arena
Follow Up Flag; Follow up
Flag status: Completed
Sent -from Windows Mail
Ladies and Gentlemen,
It is impossible for me to ignore any longer the continuing issues surrounding the usage and purchasing of ice
by the Edina Hockey Association and the Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club.
I am a parent of two high-test figure skaters who are active members of the United States Figure Skating
Association; past board member at the Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club, and am
Currently serving as co -Test Chairperson for the Figure Skating Club, i am also a parent of a swimmer who is a
member of the Edina Swim Club. All three of my children reside in and attend public schools in Edina.
Presently, there are two significant issues that concern me. One, that the assumption is made that the
sitauation between Aquajets and Edina Swim Club is the same situation as EHA and BCI_FSC. Two identical
swim clubs with equal talents wanting priority access to the same space during the same period. That is not
the case with EHA and BCLFSC. Hockey and figure skating are two very different activities with two very
different needs. Figure slating is a year-round activity; hockey is a seasonal activity.
Secondly, the comparison of these differing activities seems more similar to the situation proposed for
Edinborough Park when a consultant determined that a more economic use of space would be to eliminate
the swimming pool and expand the play area for children, a proposal that was challenged by the City's senior
citizens who use the pool. Fortunately, the City recognized a need to accommodate differing community
Interests.
The City of Edina is home to two successful skating programs. I read of the continued State-wide success of the
Edina Hockey Association; I know of the State, National and International reputation of success of
the Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club skaters. Variety is key to a successful, vibrant community that
serves its populace well. My hope is that the members of the Edina City Council will continue to allow both
programs to flourish by honoring the agreement made by the City's Representative with the BCLFSC to
provide continuity of current ice allocations for 20 years in exchange for BCLFSC's financial commitment to
contribute to the construction of the new hockey training facility.
it saddens me to know that my City's Leadership would even consider an action that would be the elimination
of an internationally recognized figure skating organization that has been a part of the City of Edina for close
to five decades.
Sincerely,
I<endra Smalley
Deb Mangan
From: Thomas P. Chorske<TCIiorske@christensengroup.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:53 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net'; 'joshsprague@edinarealty.com'; Mary Brindle (Comcast); 'swensonanni
@gmail.com'
Cc: 'Ron.Green@ecolab.com'
Subject: Priority use Agreement for Braemar Arena
As an Edina taxpayer and parent of 3 EHA hockey players, I feel the proposal EHA has submitted is appropriate and
reasonable. I hope you adopt it.
Thanks,
Tom Chorske
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From;
gwilde@comcast.net
Sent:
Friday, August 02, 2013 2:17 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
fair and balanced ice time
Mayor Hovland, we live in Edina, pay taxes in Edina, shop in Edina, go to restaurants in Edina and
yet our hockey player can't play hockey in Edina, every year when we get the schedule of practice
and games I am dumbfounded that we must go to every hockey arena in the mpls./st.pat.rl area but
hardly a game or practice in our own city of Edina and when we do get ice time at braemar it's at 7:00
in the morning on Saturday and Sunday, hardly prime time, when we do get a good time it's treated
like something special because it rarely happens.
I think Mr. Sprague has it right when lie said "What doesn't sit well with me is at these facilities that
we're paying for, that our resident teams that we support through this entire youth association system,
we're saying you're the only one that needs to be inconvenienced here. THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND IF
IT'S EXISTED FOR 40 YEARS, IT HASN'T BEEN RIGHT FOR 40 YEARS.
sincerely,
glen wilde
Deb Mangen
From:
sarah Knapp <sarah.knapp@me.com�-
Sent:
Friday, August 02, 2013 2:39 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Cc:
jonibennett12@comcast.net
Subject:
Braemar Ice
We are Edina residents with two children who play EHA hockey, boys and girls. Would LOVE to have more Braemar ice
time I With three children, and various schedules, this would help out so much. Last Squirt season, having many 5:30pm
ice sessions at Ritter arena was a nightmareHi Il Parking issues, traffic issues, etc. We had to allow so much time to get
there. Please help!
Thanks. Sarah & Lindsay Knapp
Thomas, Riley & McKenna
5018 Bruce Ave
Edina
952-250-5839
Deb Manger
From: Abrahamson, Charles 1 <CharlesJ.Abrahamson@HealthPartners.Com>
sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 3:53 PM
To: Edina Mail
subject: EHA ice at Braemar
Jim:
Please follow the recommendation for the EHA three year transition plan for the BCLFSC which provides a more
equitable allocation of ice time for participants. As a parent who has had three kids playing EHA hockey over the past 18
seasons it is a bit frustrating that the overwhelming majority, 75%, of my son's current ice time is not at Breamar and I
do not want to see this be further reduced. Thank you for your consideration
Sincerely,
Chuck Abrahamson
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From: Elizabeth Waterloo <markbethwaterloo@mac.corn>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:46 PM
Cc: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@comcast.net Mary Bundle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
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Subject: Braemar Ice Arena priority allocation
> To City Council and Parks and Recreation Department:
> I wanted to express my support for Edina Hockey Association and a fair allocation of ice at Braemar Arena. We are in
favor of supporting both the figure skating needs and the youth hockey needs although it should be done fairly, and it
appears over the years all the youth hockey teams spend more and more time practicing at faciities outside of Braemar.
Clearly there is not enough Ice available at Braemar Arena alone to satisfy all the ice needs so Edina residents never have
to travel to other locations, however, It wouldn't seem fair that some residents never have to travel outside Edina to
practice while others have to travel a majority of the time, It would seem the travel burden should be shared in some
fashion and I would request It be shared fairly across the Edina population. Thank you for considering my position on
this issue as a long time Edina resident.
> Mark & Beth Waterloo
> 5313 Halifax Ave. South
> Edina, MN 55424
> 952-926-2706
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Deb Mangen
From: Sarah Schumacher tsarahschuni9l74@gniaii.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:47 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar ice arena - EHA priority
Dear Mayor Hovland -
I'm writing to voice my opinion, as a new Edina resident, with two young boys in the Edina Hockey Association
program. We love Braemar Ice Arena and feel lucky to have such a wonderful facility in our community. Last
year was our first year of playing hockey in Ldina and I was shocked and disappointed by how little -vve actually
played or practiced at Braemar. My estimate is that 2/3rds of ow, ice time was at other arenas around the
metro. I hope you'll consider how many Edina kids and families tine involved in the Edina Hockey Association
when deciding the priority sharing agreement for Braemar on Monday. The arena time should be maxii-nized
for the local residents, who pay the bills.
Thank you for your time,
Sarah Schumacher
5401 Larada Lane
Deb Mangen
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From: John Karpinsky cjohnk@advancedwealth.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 5,05 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar Priority Use Agreement
Dear Mr. Hoveland,
I am sending you this e-mail as a very concerned taxpaying resident of Edina (5012 Park Terrace, Edina, MN 55436) with
a son playing hockey in the Edina Hockey Association.
My concern deals with the inequality in the number of hours the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club (BCLFSC)
group receives per resident relative to the Edina Hockey Association residents. The Edina Hockey Association provides
any Edina resident or student an opportunity to play hockey regardless of their skill level or financial capabilities with
1316 participants 1,306 which are residents of Edina. The-BCLFSC has 130 participants and 64 residents, yet the BCLFSC
has received priority access to the ice time over the Edina Hockey Association.
Edina residents count on it City Council to be good stewards, the city should be allocating resources (ice time at
Braemar) to the people who pay for it, the Edina residents. it is time this injustice is addressed)
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From: andrea balow <andrebnlow@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 5:54 PIA
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinerealty.com;
swensonann@gmail.corn
I am a taxpaying resident of Edina and parent of a (son or daughter or both/multiple) playing hockey in
the Edina Hockey Association. The ice time allocation at Braemer Arena is way out of proportion and
needs to be addressed.
There is a SIZABLE inequality In the number of hours the figure skating group receives per participant
and/or per resident relative to the EHA participants/residents .
Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents, have the most desirable times at Braemar and
have not been forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or at other rinks. EFTA families, 99% of
whom are Edina residents, bear this inconvenience a majority of the time. I am asking you to change
this.
This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it is not a BCLFSC life and death issue and cannot
be status quo going forward.
Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar Arena is a
taxpayer funded facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it
(Edina residents). In addition, I believe City management should have the autonomy to operate the
facility in the best interests of the taxpayers first and then accommodate the needs of other
organizations, if time is available.
Thank you for your consideration.
Deb Manuen
From;
Brian Balow <bbalow@comcast.net>
Sent:
Friday, August 02, 2013 5:57 PM
To:
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Maiy Brindle (Comcast);joshsprague@edinarealty.com swensonannl
@gmaii.com
Subject:
Braemar
I am a taxpaying resident of Edina and parent of a (son or daughter or both/multiple) playing hockey in
the Edina Flockey Association. The ice time allocation at Braemer Arena is way out of proportion and
needs to be addressed.
There is a SIZABLE inequality In the number of hours the figure skating group receives per participant
and/or per resident relative to the EHA participants/residents .
Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents, have the most desirable times at Braemar and
have not been forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or at other rinks. EFTA families, 99% of
whom are Edina residents, bear this inconvenience a majority of the time. I am asking you to change
this.
This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; It is not a BCLFSC life and death issue and cannot
be status quo going forward.
Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar Arena is a
taxpayer funded facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it
(Edina residents). in addition, I believe City management should have the autonomy to operate the
facility in the best interests of the taxpayers first and then accommodate the needs of other
Organizations, if time is available.
Thank you for your consideration.
The Balow Family
Deb Manyen
From: Dawn Cunningham <dawncunning@gmaiI.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 6:38 PM
To: jonibennett12@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl@gmail.com;
Edina Mai!
Subject: Please allocate Braemar ice lime in an equitable manner to Edina RESIDENTS!
To Mayor and City Council Members;
It seems silly to even have to take the time to ask the City of Edina to fairly allocate park and recreation access to Edina
residents. The right choice is obvious - please make Itl
I am a taxpaying resident of Edina and parent of children playing hockey in the Edina Hockey Association, The ice tinge
allocation at Braemar Arena is way out of proportion and needs to be addressed.
There Is a SIZABLE Inequality in the number of hours the figure skating group receives per participant and/or per
resident relative to the EHA participants/residents .
Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents, have the most desirable times at Braemar and have not been
forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or at other rinks. EHA families, 99% of whom are Edina residents, bear
this inconvenience a majority of the time. I am asking you to change this.
This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it is not a BCLFSC life and death issue and cannot be status quo
going forward.
Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar Arena is a taxpayer funded
facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it (Edina residents). In addition, I
believe City management should have the autonomy to operate the facility in the best interests of the taxpayers first
and then accommodate the needs of other organizations, if time Is available.
Thank you for your consideration.
�aww Cuv�,v>..%vt,�hawt,
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Deb Mannen
From: Ann Makredes 4amakr@rnsn,corn>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:26 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@comcast,net; swensonannl@gmaii.coni;joshsprague@eclinarealty.com; Mary Brindle
(Comcast)
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for BCLFSC and EHA
Dear Honorable Mayor and Council Members,
I have never been bullied in my life, at least not so openly, but I certainly know what it feels like now. I am appalled
at the recent email that was sent to the EHA members regarding its priority use agreement for Braemar
Arena. Appalled at the propaganda and the misleading of information. The latest EHA communication makes it
sound like BCLFSC is an unreasonable and difficult party when in fact all the club has done Is to support the Park
and Rec board and EHA. As you are no doubt aware, an agreement was reached previously between BCLFSC and
the Park Board and I don't understand how they can go back on it. The role of a new manager or new director is qpt
to go back on previously agreed terms with former managers or directors. They should honor them, I would be a
very poor parent teaching my children that you can ignore or revisit previous agreements when it is convenient.
The Park Board is clearly biaised in.its recommendation towards EHA. The EHA email is misleading because it
states that the City is recommending cutting hours when in fact it is the Park Board. As far as I am aware the Mayor
and the Council members represent the City and you have not decided on the issue, The proposals claim to be
equitable but in fact, the BCLFSC would eventually only get the scraps of the EHA left -over ice. The propositions
put forward would mean the death of BCLFSC for essentially benefitting EHA with very few extra hours of
ice. Without BCLFSC's year round revenue, it actually also puts Braemar Arena at financial risk.
Contrary to the statements made we cannot skate elsewhere, it is not a question of inconvenience, as it is for EHA,
it's a question of livelihood and logistics for the coaches. My daughter who skates at BCLFSC and Edina since she
was 5, she started in City classes, reported that her coach has already made enquiries and declared she will quit
BCLFSC if the Park Board and EHA persists in pursuing their recommendation. It is not sustainable from a logistics
and revenue point of view for them to go and find other ice and coach at various different rinks in the city at different
hours with different skaters with different levels. At Braemar her coach will typically have 8 different skaters for 4
different hour blocks and several coaches will be on the ice for a total of 22 skaters, making the ice purchase a
sustainable business for Braemar arena throughout the year. It is my firm belief that many if not all the coaches will
disperse throughout the current available figure skating clubs in the twin cities and quit BCLFSC, That has nothing
to do with inconvenience for the skaters. Not only will it affect my daughter, she will lose her home and City club
and invariably her figure skating skills, a sport she has given everything else up for, but she will also lose many of
her Edina and surrounding suburb friends. It will affect our club's individual figure skating and synchronized figure
skating for Edina, the Twin Cities and beyond.
Since I referred to Synchronized Figure Skating, may I remind you that the Governor named the 28th April 2012
'Team Braemar Synchronized Skating Day'? Last year, Team Braemar, became once again the 2012 U.S, junior
synchronized skating champions and represented the United States Figure Skating Association as Team USA at the
2012 Junior World Challenge Cup (JWCC) March 16-17 in Gothenburg, Sweden and earned an impressive fourth
place. Team Braemar were again the national champions in 2013. In fact they won 4 out of the 5 last years. I can't
even think what their options might be should BCLFSC dissolve. There is no other team like Team Braemar in the
Twin Cities or the State of Minnesota.
Please don't let our small member numbers (small compared to EHA) minimize the importance of figure skating to
the entire Edina community. We are the underdogs but we need the strong leadership of the Mayor and the Council
members to reject the Park Board recommendation, I will be present at the Council Meeting on Monday 5th August.
Thank you for your help and support in this.
Ann Makredes
4916 West Sunnyslope Road
Edina, MN 55424
Deb Mangen
From:
Sheila Mahoney <sheilamahoney@comcast.net>
Sent:
Friday, August 02, 2013 10:43 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
Edina ice tirne
Hello,
I am emailing you in response to the lack of ice time here in Edina. As an Edina resident with 2 hockey players this has
been a frustrating and inconvenient road we have traveled. When our son was a might (4 years ago) we rarely had ice
time at Braemar and therefore went through a season of shared ice with other teams at Hat Trick. We were so
frustrated that we chose to spend the next year at Minnesota Made. Edina has such an awesome hockey program and I
think it is only fair that the the players from Edina have the opportunity to play on the ice that they sign up for. I hope
you will take this into consideration when deciding who receives more ice time.
Thank you,
Sheila Mahoney
Deb Mangen
From: mgregorypeacock@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:59 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Please support the EHA/Peacock Family 6904 Paiute Circle Edina, MN 55439
Please support our Edina kids and give the EHA more ice time at Braemar. We spend our winter driving to Hat Trick,
Richfield, ect at all hours of the morning and evenings. My son is In 1 st grade and he has practices as early as 6:50 am
on the weekends and as late as 8:30 pm.
Please give the EHA more equality with ice time and support our Edina kids!
Deb Mangen
From: Elizabeth Psihos ceIizabeth.psihos@9mail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:43 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); josh sprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmail.com
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar - MAKE rr FA1R TO THE EHA
Ladies and Gentlemen,
When reviewing the facts around this issue, I am astounded that there is even a question on the table as to how ice time
should be allocated at a city owned facility that my tax dollars pay for. To give priority to a private club with a tiny
number of Edina residents is not only ridiculous, it is insulting to the rest of us who cart our hockey playing kids all over
the metro area to find ice time. Last year a third of my Peewee's ice time was OUTDOORS. I don't think the figure
skaters ever do thatl The city council will have to answer to the over 1300 families who deserve equal consideration if
they don't take a common sense and fair approach to the allocation of ice time at Braemar,
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration on this issue,
Elizabeth Psihos
6128 Westridge Blvd
Edina, MN 55436
Deb Mangen
From: Kimberly Behm <behmera@hotmail.con»
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:01 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibenneltl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty con); swensonannI
@gmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: RE: ice Allocation Proposal
Dear James Hovland, Jonl Bennett, Mary Brindle, Josh Sprague, Ann Swenson, Scott Neal and Ann Kattreh,
I last wrote to you below. Since then, I understand that the matter has been informally "mediated" (without
the presence of a qualified neutral) and a subsequent proposal for ice time will be before you. I am against
this proposal. The ice time allocation at Braemar Arena is way out of proportion and needs to be
addressed.. There is a sizeable inequality in the number of hours Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
(BCLFSCj receives per participant/resident relativAe to the EHA's participants/residents.
As you know, we have 2 boys skating in EHA and another one up and coming. During our time with EHA, we
have spent countless early mornings at Hat Trick, Bloomington Ice Arena, Richfield Ice Arena.... you name it,
we've been there --commonly, spending time at more than one arena per day to accommodate both
kids. Now, I learn that BCLFSC participants (only 49% of whom are Edina residents) have not been forced to
skate in the early morning, late evening or at other rinks. Further, I understand that BCLFSC does not want to
skate at other rinks. This is unacceptable. We are being pushed aside for a program who (1) is much smaller
than EHA (yet has had a history of prime Braemar ice time) (2) has significantly less participants who are Edina
residents vs EHA (yet, gets first dibs at Braemar); and (3) does not want to skate at other metro rinks.
Please fix this.
Yours Very Truly,
Kim Behm
EHA member and Edina resident
From: behmera@hotmail.com
To: mail@edinamn,9ov; joniben nettl2@comcast.net; mbrindle@comcast.net; joshsprague@edinarea lty.com;
swensonannl@gmail.com; sneal@edinamn. ov; akattreh@edinamn.gov
Subject: Ice Allocation Proposal
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:28:20 -0500
Dear, James Hovland, Joni Bennett, Mary Brindle, Josh Sprague, Ann Swenson, Scott Neal, and Ann Kattreh,
I have just learned that the Edina City Council will be asked to act on a proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation
Department regarding future ice allocation for Braemar Arena this evening, The proposal outlines a priority schedule
for purchase and use of ice as follows:
1, City -sponsored events/functions;
2, Edina High School Hockey Teams;
3. EHA;
4. Organizations that have consecutively rented ice (Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club - BCLFSC); and
5. Non-resident programs.
Despite the above -priority schedule, the proposal dictates that the BCLFSC be permitted to fulfill Its ice needs before
EHA is allowed to purchase available ice. Y am against this proposal and urge you to reject it.
I have 2 children actively involved in EhIA (and an additional child who will be joining the ranks In 2 years). The EHA
currently has 1,323 members, 99% of which are Edina residents or attend Edina schools. Meanwhile, the BCLFSC has
a mere 128 members and only 40% of those members are Edina residents. Significantly, tiie EFTA rents 2,000 hours
per season at Braemar, whereas the BCLFSC currently only rents 700 hours of ire.
The proposal does not reflect a proportionate distribution of ice time related to the percentage of Edina
residency for both groups and the ENA should clearly have the ability to fulfill its ice needs before a
Priority 4 or 5 user.
Thank you for your consideration of the above,
Kim Behm
EHA member and Edina resident
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Association, (Tb7SA) .john K.1indwot th, d Braemar City of Lakes.
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TUSH.
TCFSA teas founded In 1973 as an organization capable 6f -bringing
in major figure skating events to tiie Twin Cities,
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National champ onship (4) four t1mes,,(2) two International
Skating:Competitions; (1) One Collegiate Competition, (2) two
World.Championships and ninny USFS sectional competitions,
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and forward thinking.to forat TCFSA I and attests to their strivingto
be a successful and highly.respected club in tine Twin. Cities area,
tite State of Minnesota and Nationally lvith the United States
Figure Skathig Association.
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of ice Las enabled their coaches to develop skaters and programs
that have mane this club what it is today. laver the years Braemar.
has prod.used over "200 USCS Gold Medalists, World Class
Sylilchro..iiized Skating Teams; National Competitors; phis Tots and
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skating Ond hockey.
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skating team that performed during the opening ceremonies of the
9.980 Olympics in Lake .Placid, NY,
Woodbury. The precedent set by the City of Edina could potentially stailt a
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set a high standard of professionalism and excellence in the figure
skating community.
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MEMBER OFTHE UNITED STATES FIGURE SKATING ASSOCIA.
Deb Mancgen
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From: Jennifer Halverson <j halverson@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:25 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Fwd: Attn: Jim Hovland
PS- my name is Jennifer Halverson
My address: 21 Woodland Rd
Edina. 55424
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
Froin: Jen -niter Halverson <ijhalversou rr,Jconlcast.net>
Date: July 22, 2013, 9:29:13 AM CDT
To: "mailn,edinanm. Iov" <matl ai eclinamn. Jov>
Subject: Attn: Jim Hovland
Mayor Hovland,
After reacting today's article regarding Braemar ice time I find it hard to believe that there is even
a " debate" over this issue.
1,323 hockey members that are 99% residents vs 196 members that is not even 50% residents?l
I have three children in hockey and drive ALL OVER the twin cities- do what's right for Edina
and give the ice time to who deserves Edina ice tinge and who's numbers need it! Get on board
with your city!!
Thank you
Jennifer Halverson
Sent froth my iPhone
Deb Mangers
Frorn:
Trudie Sprenkle <trudiesprenkle@gmail.com>
Sent:
Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:34 AM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
Fwd: EHA ice time at Braemar
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Date: Sat, Aug 3,, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Subject: EHA ice time at Braemar
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I strongly support EHA's position for more equitable ice time distribution at Braemar
As an Edina resident and parent of an EHA player I can vouch for the fact that Illy player spends more than half
their time at.non-braemar rinks and we have spent additional money to acquire time at other arenas. We would
much prefer playing Edina hockey in Edina!
I would like to see the BCL -FSC remain at Braemar also, but I feel they need to be willing to share the desirable
and the undesirable ice times. If unwilling to take some non -prime time slots then they have the choice to
secure time in alternate arenas just like .EHA has been doing for years (?Decades).
It doesn't need to be all or nothing, I believe the City Council can find a solution that will enable both groups to
share Braemar ice time: 1) in proportion to the number of members (especially Edina resident members) of each
group AND 2) an equitable sharing of both prime and non-primc time slots.
Trudie ` i)renk1c
406 Ua,,'co Ave
Deb Mangen
From: Teri LaFrenz cteri.lafrenz@grnail.corn>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:33 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net Mary Brindle (Comcast); Josh Sprague; swensonannl@gmail.com
Subject: Please support the F.HA's position
As an active hockey family in the EHA, we have first-hand experience of the issues the EFIA has
presentee(. The majority of our practices/games are located at other rinks and we'd love to change that. Please
support the EHA's position!
"Thank you,
Teri LaFrenz
4417 Morningside Rd
Edina, TAN 55416
t,
Deli Mangen
From Joe Kaju <joekaju@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 201310:52 AM
Greetings,
My name is doe Kaju and i just wanted to give my feedback to you about the Edina hockey Association priority
use policy.
1. I support the Edina Hockey Association on the policy change. My son is currently in the EI -IA and this
change is a no-brainer, It should have been dome a long time ago. Edina Residents come first in our facilities.
We have the largest program in the state and this change helps the most residents and should be our first
priority.
We need this change and it should be done immediately.
Thaj*s,
.Toe Kaju
6804 Paiute Drive
Edina, MN 55439
Deb Mangen
From; richardjohnston <richardhjohnston@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:02 AM
To: jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannt@gmail.com; Scott
Neal; Scott Neal; richarcllijoliriston@yalioo.com; Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar Ice Issues
Dear Mr. Hovland, Ms, Bennett, Ms. Brindle, .Mr. Sprague, Ms. Swenson, Mr. Neal, Ms..Kattreh
I am writing you to voice my opinion regarding the recent conh,oversy over ice time at
Braemar. As all of you are aware, the .Edina Hockey Association feels that it has not got enough
ice time to adequately support their hockey membership. As a result, they wish to encroach on the
time traditionally allotted to the figure skating club.
I am lucky enough. to be the parent of both an Edina hockey player and
Edina figure skater. As such, I am one of a group that is uniquely situated
to see both sides of the coin. I feel very strongly that the city council
should respectfully not allot more ice time to the hockey association and
should keep the status quo in effect. The very simple reason for my
opinion is that I don't feel the figures skating club will survive in the long
time with significantly diminished ice time. Coaches will migrate to rinks
where they are more wanted in different cities such as Bloomington, and
Minnetonka, and skaters will go with them. My daughter, and probably
most others who are committed to skating will be able to continue with the
sport at other places, but much of the camaraderie and team spirit for
Edina will be lost. The real losers, however, will be the hundreds of
young Edina children who might have had an interest in figure skating that
don't have the ability or time to travel to new cities to tape up the
sport, The hockey association strongly emphasizes that half of the
children in the Edina figure skating club come from different cities. While
this might be true, it should not be construed as bad thing. Aren't we as a
city proud that we have a strong sports club that attracts other members
and allows our children to thrive within our city limits. The alternative, as
desired by the hockey association, would be for our Edina children to be
going elsewhere.
You might think that I am exaggerating when I feel that diminished ice
time will erode the sport, but I don't think that is the case. Coaches, the
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life. blood of figure skating, will not be willing to have a. hap hazard
schedule that takes theirs to different arenas all the time. They will simply
look for a more accommodating place and make that their home. Right
now, I think the figure skating club has the bare minimum of ice necessary
to survive. All the ice is well utilized with almost the maximum number
of skaters on the ice that is allowed and still considered to be safe. If the
hockey association could point to wasted ice time, I think their case would
be considerably stronger, but this is simply not the case.
To say that half the figure skaters are from elsewhere and over 90% of the
hockey skaters using the ice is also slightly off the mark. One must
remember that much of the ice time used by the hockey association is
involved in games or scrimmages, and half of those skaters will be from
opposing teams usually from different cities.
As a parent of both a hockey skater and figure skater, I want both sports to
thrive. Simply put, it won't happen if you gut the figure skating club of
their place in the fabric of our city. I simply can't see why any of you, as
city councilors, would want to do that.
I am happy that the hockey association is thriving and ant glad to be apart
of it. I hope it continues to grow and helps to inspire our young boys and
girls. I strongly feel that the solution to this problem is for the council to
explore the option of building new ice facilities. The hockey association
can certainly survive over the next year or two while this happens, and
doesn't need to stamp out one sport for it to continue to grow.
Thank you for considering my opinion.
Yours sincerely,
Richard Johnston.
2
Deb Man en
From:
kirk swenson <kswenson7@comcast.net>
Sent:
Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:47 AM
To:
Edina Mail
Cc:
<dottieswenson@hotmaiI.com> Swenson
Subject:
Braemar Arena Ice Time
Hi,
I am the father of two girls both of which have skated for the BCLFSC. Both started in the city program, migrated to the
junior club, and one (Lauren) remains a club member. Lauren has always loved to skate and dreams of becoming a
figure skating coach one day. This battle for ice time has become very worrisome for her, as it is her primary means of
expression and coping with everyday life. While I am anxious as well, I am mostly confused, 1 have always lived in
communities that supported one another, promoted growth by contributing to programs that may not directly benefit
my family, and
volunteered heavily in the programs that we directly benefitted from.
Successful programs were built by it's members and communities, not by stepping on the backs of others.
The current proposal lacks character. BCLFS has contributed to Braemar and the richness of the City of Edina for 47
years. It has provided off season revenues that hockey could not, allowing the city to build Braemar Arena. After all
these years, to eliminate a program under the guise of participation ratios is offensive and shortsighted. I urge you to
take a long term view and keep the August
2012 agreement intact.
Respectfully,
Kirk Swenson
5924 Amy Drive
Edina, MN 55436
Deb Mangen
From:
Jay Cavanagh <jbckcav@msn.conv
Sent:
Saturday, August 03, 2013 12:28 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Cc:
Jay Cavanagh
Subject:
Ice time allocation at Braemar
Mayor Hovland:
My name is Jay Cavanagh and I reside at 5204 Glengarry Parkway. I have an 11 year old boy, who has been very active
with the Edina Hockey Association since he was 5 years old. I am writing you today to express my concerns with respect
to the imbalance of ice time allocated between the figure skating association and the hockey association. Based on my
research, it appears that the figure skating association has been allocated a much.greater percentage of ice time, which
has forced parents like me to pay extra for ice time in other locations. I strongly encourage you and your colleagues to
re -balance the ice time between the 2 associations, so that its more evenly shared. If you should have any questions of
me, I can be reached at 612.865,3349,
Jay Cavanagh
im
Deb Mangen
From: Christina and Daniel Delianedis <stopthepuck3S@gmai1.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 201311:02 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject; DRAEMAR Arena fair and Equal Ice time
To all City Council members,
We have been Edina residents and taxpayers since 2001.
We are communicating to you electronically as the issue of fair and equal ice tine at BRAEMAR Arena will
not be heard in an open forum.
We believe that the Council notion to approve that BRAEMAR distribute ice tine more fairly to the Edina
Hockey Association (EI -IA) for the following reasons:
- The ice time allocation at Braeluer Arena is way out of proportion and needs to be addressed.
-'there is a SIZABLE inequality in the number of hours the figure skating group receives per participant
and/or per resident relative to the EI -IA participants/residents.
Figure skating families, 49% of whom arc Edina residents (64 residents), have desirable ice times at
Bracnlar and have not been forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or at other rinks.
- EIIA families, 99% of whom are Edina residents (1306 residents), bear this inconvenience a majority
of the time.
- This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it is not a BCLFSC life and death issue and
cannot be status quo going forward.
- Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar Arena is a
taxpayer lilnded facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it
(Edina residents). In addition, City management should have the autonomy to operate the facility
in the best interests of the taxpayers first and then accommodate the needs of other organizations, if time
is available.
Regards,
Daniel, Christina Delianedis
4624 Drexel Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
Sent from my iphone
(763) 656-3816
Deb Mengen
From: Sheila Mahoney <sheilamahoney@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 20131:15 PM
7o: Edina Mail
Subject: Edina Ice
Hello again, I forgot to give you my address in my last email regarding Edina Ice time it is Sheila Mahoney
6415 Limerick Drive
Edina, Mn 55439
Regards,
Sheila Mahoney
Deb Mannen
From: Guy Logan <glogan@loganconsulting.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 20131:51 PM
To: Edina Mail; James Hovland (hovland@krausehovland.com)
Cc: Suzanne Logan (suzannelogan@yahoo.com)
Subject: Ice time fairness
Iii Jim,
Our family became aware of the Braemar ice allocation fairness issue over the past couple of weeks. You probably
remember that I have 3 kids in the EHA. You probably didn't know that I have a very dear friend who was on that
Braemar skating team that performed at Lake Placid in the 1980 Olympics. I appreciate and value the skating club, but I
also feel strongly that I can value the skating club and still insist on fair and equitable ice allocation rules.
I also have to admit that my perception of the club has been tarnished a bit by their current leader's use of
misinformation, particularly around their claims about skating club rules and killing their club. I also was not impressed
with their utter unwillingness to compromise.
Jim, I believe you have been made aware of the facts and statistics and hopefully had the misinformation cleared up.
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This is a matter of fairness and sharing the inconvenience of going to other rinks. If I have to take my 8 year old
daughter to another rink, why shouldn't the figure skaters? As an Edina resident and tax payer who now better
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understands the situation, I have to admit that it's frustrating that the skating club gets all the prime ice and we get the
non -prime times and have to travel to other rinks when they don't.
I hope we can count on you to implement a reasonably timely transition to a fair ice time allocation.
Thanks, Jim.
G uy
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Deb Mangen
From: Jane Lonnquist 4&nnqu1st@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2;01 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Note for Council on Braemar Ice. Allocation
Dear Mayor Hovland and City Council Members,
I hope you will take a careful look at the data on ice hours allocation at Braemar.
Regardless of what has been done in the past, please develop a system that more fairly awards desirable ice times to the
optimum number of Edina residents, Over the ten years that we have had children In the Edina Hockey Association, we
have seen practices become further and later across the board. Of course this is driven in part by hockey parent insanity,
but it is also a reflection of the growing number of participants in the EHA and lack of available Braemar ice times due to
the figure skating program.
Thanks for examining this issue.
Jane Lonnquist
4510 Drexel Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
';
Deb Mangeti
From: suzanne logan <suzannelogan@yehoo.com>
sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 2:50 PM
To: Guy Logan; Edina Mail; lames Hovland Ohovland@krausehoviartd.com)
subject: Re: Ice time fairness
I -Ii Jim -- I Hope you are well! Just a feat more things from my "mom" perspective, as well as that of a volunteer
manager for all of my kids' teams over the past Five years.
It's not just the young kids (our 8 year old). We've been through this with our two older kids who are now 1 1
and 13. I feel the stakes are higher with our now 1 1 year old and our 13 year old, Do you know how hard it is
for an 11, 12, 13 or soon to be 14 year old to .have 9 p.m, ice times and then have to be up by 6,15 the next
morning to go to school? From that 9 p.m. practice, they get home 10:30 earliest. They then have to shower
and relax.... meaning they are not getting to sleep until at least 11:30! Then I'm forced to either feel like a bad
mons for not helping niy kids get the sleep they need, or letting their team down by not allowing them to go to
practice. Even if it's a 8 p.m. practice, it's still not enough sleep.
Or how hard it is for a hockey practice to encompass 3 horn's of one child and parent's night because we could
be driving during rush hour both ways for an hour or hour and 15 minute practice? Or how about when Guy has
to travel and I have to get a kid to Ivtariucci, Richfield and say Ilat 'Prick fill around the same time? Yes,
maybe our fault for having too many kids :), but boy, would I LOVE it if they could all be at Braemar, all be at
desirable hours and/or not always happen during our FAMILY dinner time or later as in my above example.
Because I've been a manager year over year (.1'm going to guess close to 11+ teams times 30+ parents per team),
I frequently hear the complaints of other moms and clads after I post the schedule. In the end, parents know, it's
not tinder my control, but because of all of the teams I've managed, I can confidently say that the toll it takes on
hockey families to continually make difficult ice times is shared by many, many, many other hockey parents.
A fair and equitable solution needs to be found. Our family has also served this eonilyiunity in Inany ways and
should have equal access to our city facilities.
Thanks again for your time and service to Edi ria 1
Suzanne Logan
From: Guy Logan <glog an@loganconsuiting.com>
To: "mail@edinamn.gov" <mail@edinamn,gov>; "James Hovland (jhovland@krausehovland.com)"
<jhovland @krausehov land. com>
Cc: "Suzanne Logan (suzannelogan@yahoo.com)" <suzannelogan @yahoo. com>
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: Ice time fairness
Hi Jim,
Our family became aware of the Braemar ice allocation fairness issue over (lie .past couple of weeks. You
probably remember that I have 3 kids in the IHA, You probably didn't know that I have a very dear friend who
was oil that Braemar skating team that performed at Lake Placid in the 1980 Olympics. I appreciate and value
the skating club, but I also feel strongly that I can value the skating club and still insist on fair and equitable ice
allocation rules.
I also have to admit that my perception of the club has been tarnished a bit by their current leader's use of
misinformation, particularly around their claims about skating club rules and killing their club. I also was not
impressed with their utter unwillingness to compromise.
Jim, I believe you have been made aware of the facts and statistics and hopefully had the misinformation
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better understands the situation, I have to admit that it's frustrating that the skating club gets all the prime ice
and we get the non -prime times and have to travel to other rinks when they don't.
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better understands the situation, I have to admit that it's frustrating that the skating club gets all the prime ice
and we get the non -prime times and have to travel to other rinks when they don't.
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From andrea bender <aedbender@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 3:00 PM
To: ann swenson; Qonibennettl2@comcast.net); Edina Mail; Mary Brindle (Comcast); Ooshsprague@edinarealty.com);
Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: RE: Braemar Ice allocation
From what I see, it seems ridiculous for the EHA parents (Edina being an operative word) to have to drive all
over the map to find ice when theBCLFSC has full use of Braemar and doesn't even claim anywhere near the
percentage of Edina Residents or hours needed.
The BCLFSC has had a sweet ride at the Edina Hockey parents expense. Time to look at the numbers and even
things out.
Please consider the EHA proposal.
Thank you,
andrea bender
6149 Code Ave
Edina MN 55436
p.s. thank you Ann for responding to my previous comments.
aedbender@hotmail.com
From: aedbender@hotmail.com
To: swensonannl@gmaiLcom
Subject: RE: Braemar Ice allocation
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:23:17 -0500
Thanks for the update. I look forward to seeing what they can agree upon,
andrea
aedbender@hotmail.com
hotmaiLcom
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:22:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Braemar Ice allocation
From: swensonannl . gmail.corn
To: aedbender@liotmaii.com
hotmaii.com
Andrea, a motion to table this topic until Aug 5th was made by Brindle and Bennet. It was suggested that the
Park dept and the presidents of the two groups meet before then and see if they can come to a compromise
on ice time. The figure skating club would like no change and the hockey assc. would like almost all their time.
Somewhere in between is probably a solution. We do not allocate any other athletics facility directly by hours
per Edina resident. All sports have different was they need to use facilities and these two are no different. Ann
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:39 PM, andrea bender <aedbender c, hotmall.coin> wrote:
Thank you for responding. you are the only one that did. I appreciate it even to tell me you don't have the
info!:
Andrea
aedbender@hotmaii.com
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12;13:53 -0600
Subject: Re: Braemar Ice allocation
From: swensonannl@gmall,com
To: aedbender@hotmall.com
Andrea, the proposal came from the city park and rec dept not the city council. I am not on their mailing list
either. I do receive emails from lots of residents, If I get one from the Board of BCLFSC I will forward it to you.
Ann Swenson, Council
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:21 AM, andrea bender <aedbender@hotmail. coop wrote:
I received an email from the Edina Hockey Association regarding the topic of Priority Use of Braemar. Could
you please forward me the information that the BCLFSC has Put forth before the meeting. I am not on their
email list.
The EHA email makes the situation seem ridiculously obvious. I would like to see the BCLFSC or the city
council's rationale for their proposal.
Thank you,
andrea
aedbender@hotmaH.com
Deb Mangen
From: Chris Johns <cbjohns@visi.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 3:08 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Edina Hockey and fair use of Braemar
Dear Mayor Hovland
]'d like -to express my concerns about the lack of a fair use policy for the three ice rinks at the Braemar arena,
and in particuiar the way that a small, majority non-resident, club (the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating
Club) is currently being given priority access during prime skating times, to ice time at Braemar, over the needs
of a much larger, almost all -resident and volunteer -coached organization (Edina hockey Association).
From our experience its members of EHA over the past four years with our son Adam, and most recently during
this past winter (October 2012 -March 2013), we have lead to drive to a large number of practices at other rinks
because ice time at Braemar was unavailable. ']'his has frequently resulted in lots of time on the road, and very
late evenings, when his school bus is at 7:10am and sleep is, of course, vital to good school performance.
Playing hockey for the Edina Hockey Association is a privilege, but it is also a large commitment of time and
money. To have this commitment extended due to excessive travel and often difficult ice times is unfortunate,
and, I believe, somewhat unnecessary,
In particular, I'd like to mention:
• University of Mimnesota Mariucci and Ridder arenas, typically around Cpm on a weekday (almost
impossible to get to from Edina during rush hour, and around $10 to park
Augsburg College (similarly difficult to access and almost impossible to park)
Minnehaha Academy
• Brooklyn Center
• Northeast Minneapolis
Como/Phalen
I would like to request that you take account of the facts presented in the presentation from the Edina Hockey
Association, and I agree with their proposal that an equitable balance of Braemar ice times between BCL.FSC
and EIIA be put in place, taking into account the size and residency percentage ofthe.members ot'the two
organizations, while recognizing the historical importance of the oganizations to the City of Edina.
Thank you,
Christopher Johns
4330 Oakdale Avenue S, Edina, MN 55424
952-285-6822
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Deb Mangen
From: Rosie W Hanson <rosiehansonfs@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August03, 2013 4`16 PM
To: Edina Mail
Cc Joni ben nett12@Comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague2edinarealty.com; aswensonannt@grnail.com;
Scott Neal
Subject: Ice Time for the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
To The Honorable .lames Hoveland
Hello Jaines, I hope you are having a beautiful day since it is so absolutely Minnesota Beautiful!
My name is Rose Mary W Hanson and i teach Figure Skating at the Braemar Ice Arcna for the BCL,FSC. I have taught figure skating
here in the Twit Cities for almost 30 years and have taught here at Braennnr for over 13 of those years. I wanted to share some
thoughts with ,you.
It is hard to grasp that this situation between our organization, management and EFIA is really going oil. We have worked so
successfully with EHA for so many years that it feels strange that they would want us out so drastically. 1 have taught many of these
hockey players myself, both individually and in group lessons. I should know, I am Certified in Hockey Skills and raised two Hockey
Players that went on to High School Hockey, their skills stood out ....we go hand and hand in this area. Many coaches seek us out to
work with their players and we love this common ground. Never did we see this coming because of our EHA relationship and our long
time friendship with our High School Hockey Coach. Something must of changed.... Nye know there is always a demand for more ice
for hockey, any rink can tell you that...but our relationship was good.
I ant writing you as a Professional Coach at the Link ... ,.you know the vast differences between Hockey and Figure Skating, there are
too many to even list.
Both are Great!! Both sports satisfy so many facets of physical motion and the joy of participation. Again, too many wonderful
attributes of Sportsmanship and life lessons by both sports. It is hard to believe that one sport may be erased by the other with the
permission of the City of Edina. It is still a great deal of amazement that this canne up so quickly and how.
Does the City of Edina really not want to service their citizens with a solid, high quality, competitive Figure Skating Program? In
order for the Edina Residents to have such value, they will have to go to Bloomington, Eden Prairie, Minnetonka and other
surrounding Corn nLill! ties? Do you think that is what the majority of Edina residents want? What is to say one that one is better and
the other rust go? Numbers?. ... based on cumbers??? The two sports are completely different and cannot be judged in that
mode. Because the majority of Skaters are individuals, does not diminish the value of tine sport. What is one of the most watched
sports in the Winter Olympics? Figure Skating! Does the City of Edina really want to dash all the dreams (hat are current skaters have
and your future skaters also? Hockey has it's many games, tournaments and High School State Championships but so do we ..... .... Nye
have those dreams too! We have Minnesota State Championships and Braemar has and has had many of those Champions! Our
skaters go beyond State and compete in Regionals (22
state area) and USA Nationals, Our Braemar Synchronized Team are the current National Champions and has had that Honor
numerous titues and are Nationally known throughout the United States of America. They also have competed through [lie
World! They are the only International Synchronized Team in Minnesota ..... and you want to have them leave because EHA and
management is phasing its out? Do you really want to dash out all these dreams that these skaters have delivered upon and any in (lie
future?
The reason 1 am saying this, is because of what has been recommended to the City will diminish this Club. I really do not think that is
what your Honor would like for the City of Edina and it's vast residents. To send your firttu•e successful skaters to another part of the
Greater City to learn quality skills to become a figure stater. As a coach, I came here to Braemar because of it's unbelievable
reputation as one the most competitive Figure Skating Clubs of the Twin Cities!! it has been heralded as one of the best Clubs in
Minnesota. We are known nationally for individuals and of course, our Synchro Team. I remember the day I started teaching here, "I
am instructing in one the Best Clubs The Cities can offer". This FSC started 47 years ago and has been supported and built by so many
residents with pride. To have it diminish is unbelievable .... and it will, The hours that were recommended will do such a thing. To be
"phased out" says a lot right there. To be told that we can use tine ice fi;otn 5:00am to 5:00pnn would not work for Any program. As I
value slating, l also value the good education that Edina and Minnesota provide. Our skaters are in school during that time just as the
hockey players, or they would of taken that time. That is really not even an option. Skating skills lake time just like any other but they
are intricate by nature and it's musicality acid creativity. These can't be taught by rink to rink to rink, and it is not even allowed by the
USES; and tile hours have to consistent for it's inu7catsy... much like learning a musical instrument. Over and over and over again,
Another reason why this Figure Stating Club will fail is because if the ice time is not appropriate for the skater to learn her skills and
tale her or him to the level he can accomplish, the coach will leave. [fit is not suitable to learn in the environment, the coach will
leave and no instructors will come. That will definitely be the situation here. We all are very well known coaches of the Twin Cities
and the students of the coaches will follow them if they have to leave.
One reason I would have to leave would because this is my livelihood. This is not just dealing with children and young adults, it is
adults and holy they make their money to pay for the mortgage,electricity, health insurance, food and of course, huge college loans.
is the real deal. Our skaters will follow and I so earnestly hate to ask this..... was that the real option that EFIA and management
wanted?
In closing, I must plea: " Save this Club" How can such a unbelievable strong part of this community just drop such a strong program
for it's residents? 'ro think that by chisiling our hours away, which I know EHA and management want to continue to do, it will
die. Do you really want that reputation and to be done on your watch.
This a Great Figure Skating Club ...... It has so much Edina history and blood. This a great City. These are great and talented
skaters ... do not deprive your community of such a quality program. That is not the direction in today's world, that Edina should be
going. I absolutely love this sport and I love the wonderful families and skaters that I am involved with. It has been this way for so
many years..... let the rich history of Edina's Figure Skating Continue.
Please honor the agreement that rink management put out to our Club,even as verbally recent as the month of May 2013.
a
Piease Help these skaters to their DREAMSM
Rosie Mary. W Hanson
Deb Mangen
From: Eric Gustafson <eric@thegustafsongroup.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:36 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar ice time
Hello Jim,
The ice time allocation at Braemer Arena is way out of proportion and needs to be addressed.
- There is a SIZABLE inequality in the number of hours the figure skating group receives per participant
and/or per resident relative to the EHA participants/residents.
- Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents (64 residents), have desirable ice times at
Braemar and have not been forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or at other rinks.
- EHA families, 99% of whom are Edina residents (1306 residents), bear this inconvenience a majority of
the time.
- This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it is not a BCLF5C life and death issue and cannot
be status quo going forward.
- Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar Arena is a
taxpayer funded facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it
(Edina residents). In addition, City management should have the autonomy to operate the facility i n
the best interests of the taxpayers first and then accommodate the needs of other organizations, if
time is available.
Best Regards,
Eric Gustafson
7223 Lanham lane
Edina, MN 55439
1ti
Deb Mangen
From: Andrea Pintar <andreapintar4@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:25 PM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Synchro
Synchro needs to stayl IH It was a HUGE part of my life and the development of my childhood I I learned so many
invaluable skills such as time management, competition, hard work ethic, traveling, built life long friendshipsl!!
Keep Synchro and figure skating ... It's such a huge part of a women's and men's life that are in the sport!! (A very difficult
sport)!!!!
Andrea Pintar
Deb Mangen
From:
Thomas Whear <hahear@earthlink,net>
Sent:
Saturday, August 03, 201310:01 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
Braemar Arena Priority Use policy
To: The Honorable ,lames Hovland,
Maior of Edina
From: Thomas Whear
7105 Glouchester Ave.
Edina, MN
I am concerned about what seems to be an inequity in Bracmar Arena ice time allocation between tl►e l diva
Hockey Association and the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club(BCLFSC),
I have three sons in the Edina School District - all have played hockey with the Edina Hockey Association; one
son will again be playing with the Association this coming season, Hockey has been a terrific experience for
my sons,
My impression is that almost all EFIA hockey players are from families of Edina residents, a significant greater
percentage of Edina families than families with youth in the BCLFSC.
This is extremely irritating and unfair.
As a tax payer in Edina I ask you to find a way to make things more equitable!
Over the last several years, I driven ►ny son's to way too many hockey practices at Augsburg College, Mariuchi
Areana. Ridder Arena, Velocity Hockey and Hat Trick Hockey in St, Louis Park (which by the way, is
recognized by the MN Department of Health as having air quality .issues due to an indoor diesel powered ice
groomer), These "out of Edina" practices can be several times per week, and often are during rush hour or later
iii the evening, Having to drive 11 year old boys home from Augsburg College at 9:45pm is not a good
arrangement; especially when we have our own arena within only a couple of miles of most Edina residences,
Thank you for your consideration of lily concerns.
Best regards,
Thomas Whear
twhear k?earthlinknet
C.
Deb Mangen
From: Molly Hewitt <hewitt Home@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:08 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast);joshsprague@edinareaity.com; swensonannl
@gmail.com
Subject: Braemar - EHA Ice Time
Decry 11aya• and Council Members,
1Tle have two children intro played Edina Hoelce7� ditring the 2012-2013 season trod ivill potentially have three
clailch cn playiiag dais)+ear. They cn e young (S, G and l) and would beneTt greally from having more ice lime cit
Braemar, Our girls barely had fin)) Braemar ice bine lasl )year. It ivas rare and a treat for them to be able to t.
practice at Braemai-, Instead time drove them to other less cohveinieinl arenas all ovv,r the metro area - often
having oin• S year old cit one arenct and our 6 year old at another at overlapping times. TVe believe that a more
equitable approach to ice bine is needed and the Skating Club should be asked to give up some of their prinne
ice time. ii'e are Ecliina residenis (incl aur f(innily as rnell as the nitnnei•ou,y otheis ~with children plctyiiig hockey
deserve shnilar access.
Regards,
Molly Hewitt
Deb Mangen
From: Cosette DeCesare <cosettedecesare@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 20131226 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar Priority Use
Greetings,
I am an Edina resident and I have three daughters who participate in EHA. It has been brought to illy attention
that there is, in fact, a sizable inequality in the 11111ount of ice time that EHA receives versus how much ice the
figure skating competitors get. The .latter mentioned group gets more desirable ice times as well. Also, less than
half of their participants tine Edina residents. EFIA is 111ade L11) of considerably more tax paying residents than
the figure skating team. Braemar is a taxpayer supported facility!. As a taxpayer living in Edina and as a
member if'EHA, I believe strongly that EI -IA should have priority in selecting ice times at Braemar.
Thank you
Cosette DeCesare
7433 Vilest Shore Dr
Edina 55435
beb Man en
From: Peter Fitzgerald <peter.fitzgeraid@concorcicre.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:09 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennetU2@comcast.net; joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl@gmail.com
Cc: Megan
Subject: Ice Time
We support Edina Hockey and as much ice time as possible.
We would also support a substantial reduction of the figure skating hours.
Thanks,
Peter & Megan Fitzgerald
5217 Kellogg Ave Edina
iPad
Deb Mangen
From: Daniel Jennings <superstar2818@me.eom>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:13 AM
To: Edina Mail
subject: Youth Hockey at Braemar
Hello,
I've been an Edina resident for over 25 years, and am now raising my children here, With Edina's history of being one of
the greatest hockey towns in the world, I find it ridiculous that my boys; ages 6 & 4 will need to fight for local ice time
with a group that is comprised of less than 50% of residents.
Do the right thing, and keep the hockey tradition alive in Edina. Support Edina youth hockey and tax paying residents -
grant EHA the Braemar Ice time their requesting.
Thanks,
Daniel Jennings
4607 Meadow Road
952.212.1178
sent from my Wad
Deb Man en
Front Annie Bishop <anniebishop5@grnail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:14 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Edina Priority use policy - Braemar Arena
Dear Mayor,
I am an Edina resident with kids in the hockey program. I am both disappointed and shocked that the figure skating team
has had agreements with the city for prime ice time for so many years and continues to get extensions to keep these
hours.
As I think about how many nights a week I drive to other rinks in other cities, often late at night, I ask that you look at
the numbers and realize the disproportionate number of families that are being effected.
Edina Hockey Association also pays extra fees for the Hornets Nest and Improvement of facilities we may never use but
It's what Braemar and the City of Edina should do. We have long needed improvements and additional rinks; however,
the city has not been able to come up with a plan to do so, With this situation, it is only fair to implement a priority use
system so that all Edina residents are allocated equal opportunities to use the East rink.
Please consider the 1300 players that are bring effected by your actions to allow 51 ice skaters have access to a rink that
should be shared by the community.
Sincerely,
Annie Bishop
7432 Hyde Park Drive
Edina,MN 55439
Sent from my !Phone
Deb Mangen
From; Molly Thuma <mollythuma@conxast.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:51 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonil)ennettl2.@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); jostisprague@edinarealty.cotix swensonanni
@gmail.com
Subject: EHA Braemar Ice time
Dear City Council Members,
My narne is Molly Thurna and for the past five years I have sat on the Edina Lacrosse Board and the
Edina Girls Athletic Board. During my time on these boards, I have never witnessed an issue with
field space or gym space for both of these organizations. So I wonder why one of the largest Edina
sports organizations is continually given the worst ice time and least amount of ice time, when it is
serving such a large amount of Edina kids. The Edina Hockey Association is a volunteer
community organization that provides any Edina resident or student an opportunity to play
hockey regardless of their level of skill or their financial capabilities. It seems illogical that
you have different sets of rules for different associations
The EHA has 1316 participants 1306 residents, 2100 hours of ice. At Braemar on
average once a week. No access to Braemar on weekdays before 7pm, unless before
school. We take what we can after the boys/girls high school hockey teams and figure
skaters have their allocated hours.
The BCLFSC coaches are paid full time independent contractors operating out of
Braemar.
The BCLFSC has 130 participants 64 residents, 700 PRIME TIME hours if ice. They
skate at Braemar East 95% of the time, about 3-4 days a week and rarely anywhere else.
- The ice time allocation at Braemer Arena is way out of proportion and needs to be
addressed.
- There is a SIZABLE inequality in the number of hours the figure skating group receives
per participant and/or per resident relative to the EHA participants/residents.
- Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents (64 residents), have desirable
ice times at Braemar and have not been forced to skate in the morning, late in the evening or
at other rinks.
- EHA families, 99% of whom are Edina residents (1306 residents), bear this inconvenience
a majority of the time.
- This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it isnot a BCLFSC life and death
issue and cannot be status quo going forward.
- Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets and Braemar
Arena is a taxpayer funded facility. The City should be allocating resources (ice time) to the
people that pay for it (Edina residents). In addition, City management should have the
autonomy to operate the facility i n the best interests of the taxpayers first and then
accommodate the needs of other organizations, if time is available.
Thank you for your tirne.
Regards,
Molly Thuma
6700 Samuel Road
Edina, MN 55439
952-944-5499
952-393-8631 cell
mollythUmaftcorncast.net
The Edina Hockey Association is a volunteer community organization that provides any
Edina resident or student an opportunity to play hockey regardless of their level of skill or
their financial capabilities.
1316 participants 1306 residents, 2100 hours of ice. At Braemar on average once a
week. No access to Braemar on weekdays before 7pm, unless before school. We take
what we can after the boys/girls high school hockey teams and figure skaters have their
allocated hours.
The BCLFSC coaches are paid full time independent contractors operating out of
Braemar.
130 participants 64 residents, 700 PRIME TIME hours if ice. They skate at Braemar East
95% of the time, about 3-4 days a week and rarely anywhere else.
Deb Manger
From: Dennis Bornfleth <denbor27 a gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 9:13 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: fwd: 2nd Request for Action RE: Braemar Priority Use Policy
Jim, please see the attached to help balance ice time between Hockey players and Figure skaters at Braemar.
Thank you, Dennis
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Edina Hockey Association <no-reply(c i,,,�vrw.edinahockeyassociation.com>
Date: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Subject: 2nd Request for Action RF.: Braemar Priority Use Policy
To: denbor27&-Ymail,com
Judy Goodman (Edina Hockey Association) sent you a message.
2nd Request for Action REQ Braemar Priority Use Policy
This is a reminder that we need your support in writing to the City Council members
about this issue. There will be no open forum at the City Council meeting on Monday
for the public so your emails and calls will be the only way to persuade each Council
member.
- The ice time allocation at Braemer Arena is way out of proportion and
needs to be addressed,
- There is a SIZABLE inequality in the number of hours the figure skating
group receives per participant and/or per resident relative to the EHA
participants/residents,
- Figure skating families, 49% of whom are Edina residents (64 residents),
have desirable ice times at Braemar and have not been forced to skate in the
morning, late in the evening or at other rinks,
- EHA families, 99% of whom are Edina residents (1306 residents), bear this
inconvenience a majority of the time.
- This is an issue of fairness and shared inconvenience; it is not a BCLFSC life
and death issue and cannot be status quo going forward.
- Edina residents count on its City Council to be good stewards of our assets
and Braemar Arena is a taxpayer funded facility. The City should be allocating
resources (ice time) to the people that pay for it (Edina residents). In addition,
City management should have the autonomy to operate the facility i n the
best interests of the taxpayers first and then accommodate the needs of other
organizations, if time is available.
Please send your narne and address with your message — must be included so they
know you are an Edina resident.
Our thanks to those of you who already have written and supported this effort to
help our kids have more ice time at Braemar.
EHA Board
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From: Jane Chaffee <jehchaffee@aoi.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 9:53 AM
To: Edina Mail; jhovlancl@krausehovland.com; jonibennett12@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); swensonann2
@gmaii.com; joshsprague@edir)arealty.com
Subject: Team Braemar Concerns and Priority Use Agreement
Attachments: Letter_to_Mayor_and_Council members 8_3 13.pdf; Quote_fronL.a l'eani Breernar_Parent.pdf
Dear Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
I have written the attached letter, about Team Braemar, to help you understand my deep concern regarding the drastic cut
in ice time, for Team Braemar, as proposed by EHA and the Priority Use Agreement. This is an emotional issue for all of
us who have worked so hard to develop an International and World Program. I have worked with synchronized skating on
the local and national level since 1985. It is important to me that you understand the impact of your decision.
I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to discuss this issue with you before Monday evening.
Thank you for your time and dedication to this issue.
Regards,
Jane Chaffee
Team Braemar General Manager
4ehchaffee(a7aol.cot
612-804-1473 Mobile
August 3, 2013
Dear Honorable Mayor and Esteemed City Council members,
My narne is Jane Chaffee, and I have been the volunteer General Manager of Team Braemar since 1985.
1 am writing this letter in hopes that you will reconsider the proposal set forth by the EHA and the City
Manager in regard to ice time for Team Braemar at Braemar Arena.
Team Braemar Synchronized Skating has been a part of the Edina community since the late 1970's, and
has been a strong national and international presence throughout the sport's expansion. Since the
inception of the sports' National Championship competition in 1985, Braemar has represented Edina 27
times and has been U,S. National Champions 4 of the past 5 years. On the world stage, Team Braemar
has represented the United States of America in seven countries, at 10 different competitions, since 1999
and have been on the international podium four times. In 2011, Team Braemar Junior placed 3rd in the
Junior World Championship. 4 time World Team member in the past 5 years. In looking back at Team
Braemar's history, and the lives of the skaters who gave this program everything they had, it is difficult to
stomach the thought that It may no longer exist because an organization and community refused to
recognize the international impact of Team Braernar. Make no mistake, should the disheartening and
disgusting proposal go into effect, Team Braemar will cease to exist.
As word has spread of the attempt by the EHA to so drastically cut the amount of Ice Team Braernar has,
the skating community in Minnesota and across the country have come forward to offer their help and
share their stories. One such story from Sandy Dennis illustrates just how far and wide Team Braemar's
reach extends and we have attached her testimony to this email for your review.
Ii is unbelievably difficult for a skater on Team Braemar to understand why, instead of congratulations
such as the proclamation they received from Governor Mark Dayton on April 28th 2012, they are being
punished by the City of Edina. This community that they so proudly represent has turned their backs on
these athletes to favor an organization that resembles more of a bully than an advocate for athlete
development.
Synchronized skating is more complex than you can imagine, and unless you find yourself in the middle
of 19 other skaters on the ice in an arena of thousands of people, you will most likely have a hard time
understanding the time and effort it takes to achieve success. In the spirit of understanding, I would like
you to know just what it takes to be a competitive internationally renowned team.
Synchronized skating has a 12 month season, starting at the end of April with tryouts and ending in the
beginning of April with the World Synchronized Skating Championships. it takes two months of individual
skill development and endurance training just to be able to start choreography. From there, a series of
technical specialists and choreographers assist with the placement of elements in the programs. For the
Junior team, the 2.5 minute short program must be completed by July, and the 4.5 minute program must
be completed by September. There are required aspects for each program, and everything from the head
to the toes must be exactly the same_ for each of the 20 skaters on the ice . Not just similar, not just the
same movement, but making sure your toe -pick is in the same position as the person next to you
because it means the difference between 1st and 10th place. The same hands, down to the little finger,
and the same size turn left by the blade on the ice. These are all examples of what is worked on day in
and day out on the Ice with the coaches. What a 5'9" 130 pound skater executes must be identical to the
57" 130 pound skater next to her. The time and attention to detail required is extraordinary. The days of
6.0's are long gone, replaced by a technical scoring system that makes Nancy Kerrigan's Olympic feat
look like basic skills. An hour long practice is barely enough time to work on skills and do endurance
training. Two hours means just enough time to start working on one program -don's forget there are two
for the Junior team, Three hours is enough time to train, choreograph, and execute for an average
nationally competitive learn. Let me assure you, Team Braemar's reputation is far above average and if
we could find more ice time we would snatch it up in a heartbeat. Team Braemar buys 11.5 hours for two
teams at Braemar Ice Arena per week and have bought 23 hours outside of Braemar In September alone.
Ours is e fast paced, dangerous, ever -evolving sport that has gotten so big the current United States
Senior Synchronized Skating champions perform on the Today Show. Synchronized skating is going to
the Olympics, and every year we gain another step closer to exhibiting in Sochi, and it will be an official
sport at the Olympics in 201 B. You don't make It to the Olympics with an hour of training, three times a
week. You don't win National Championships with less than a hours of ice time per week, You don't
dominate the world stage with the average ice time of a preliminary team. Team Braemar comes to win,
and everyone knows that we will. We represent the United States of America, "Representing Braemar
City of Lakes Figure Skating Club in Edina Minnesota" brings pride to the skater that steps on the ice to
those words. The current proposal means the end to that pride, the destruction of skating dreams for a
young child, and the failure to support one of the most prominent names in the United States Figure
Skating Association. Team Braernar will end without the required ice time, and should you move forward
with the proposal, as set forth, you should have the moral fortitude to look these athletes in the eye and
tell them why they will no longer represent their city or their country in competition.
I would like to thank you all for your patience, your hard work, and your attention to this issue. We do not
often get an opportunity to thank those who work hard for our communities, and on behalf of Team
Braemar we extend our gratitude to you for your consideration.
Respectfully,
Jane Chaffee
Team Braemar General Manager
ehchaffee@aol.com
612-804-1473
Quote from a Team Braemar Parent
In the spring of 2010, my daughter and I traveled to see the International Skating
Union's world Synchronized Skating Championship which - that year - was held in
Colorado Springs, CO. While eating breakfast at our hotel, we struck up a
conversation with a mother and daughter from St. Louis who had also traveled to
see the world Championship. When they learned we were from Minnesota, the
young girl immediately asked, "Do you skate with Team Braemar? Because if I lived
in Minnesota, Team Braemar would be my dream team!" My daughter did not then
skate with Team Braemar, but I learned than about how special Edina's
synchronized skating team is and about the celebrity Team Braemar enjoys in
synchronized skating circles nationally and internationally. (Did you know that less
than five percent of U.S. teams who enter U.S. Figure Skating's qualifying
competitive system are named to Team USA?) In recent years, Team Braemar has
attracted athletes from as cloae as Woodbury, Stillwater, Elk River, Rochester,
l~aribault, and New Ulm and from as far away as Missouri, Washington D.C.,
Finland, and Switzerland. Pecause of Team Praemar and the professionals at
19CLE9C, athletes throughout the Twin Cities and more have made Edina their
skating home. Team Praemar athletes - both residents and nonresidents - proudly
wear Edina as part of their identity whenever they compete; they are proud to hear
"from Edina, Minnesota" whenever the team is announced. It is difficult to
understand why the city of Edina would not want to embrace the Team Braemar
program and the athletes who represent the city so well.
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Dear Members of the Edina City Council,
I serve as the .President of U.S. Figure Skating, the national governing body for the
sport of figure skating in the United States. This letter is submitted in support of the
interests of the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club (`Braemar FSC"), a 50+
year member club of U.S. Figure Skating.
As a life-long resident of the Twin Cities area, I am very familiar with the Braemar
FSC's rich history and its high duality figure skating program in all figure skating
disciplines at all levels based upon my years as a skater, coach, and U.S. Figure
Slating official, and now in my capacity as U.S. Figurc Skating President. The City
of Edina and the Braemar Arena have much to be proud of as demonstrated by the
Club's longevity at Braemar Arena, the Braemar FSC's high quality program at all
levels of the sport, and the many achievements of the Club's skaters and Team
Braemar, which is among the top synchronized skating teams in the world.
It is my understanding that a proposal has been presented to the Edina City Council
for its consideration that would significantly reduce the number of ice hours available
to the Braemar FSC at the Braemar Arena, If the City Council were to adopt this
proposal and significantly reduce the number of ice hours available to the Club, it
would have a detrimental impact on the Braemar FSC's existing skating program and
the Club's continued viability.
It has been suggested that if the ice hours available to the Braemar FSC are reduced,
the Club can simply put more skaters on the ice during its sessions to resolve the
problem. `This suggestion, however, would not be a viable option for the Club
because U,S, Figure Skating has safety guidelines for its member clubs regarding the
number of skaters on a session. Thus, the Club would be unable to address the
problem by simply putting more slaters on its sessions. To do so would be a
violation of U,S. Figure Skating Safety Guidelines.
It has also been suggested that the Braemar FSC can buy the additional ice it needs at
another rink and hold club sessions. This also would not be an option .for the Club.
Under U.S. Figure Skating rules, a club cannot go and buy ice in another arena and
operate as a club if that arena is ahready registered as the principal skating
headquarters of another U.S. Figure Skating niernber club,
Members of the Edina City Council
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July 15, 2013
M conclusion, the number of ice hours available to the Braemar FSC is critical to the
Club's continued ability to sustain its figure skating program at the same quality level
that has existed for more than 50 years. As the Edina City Council considers the ice
Usage proposal, please take into consideration the Club's 47 -year history of having a
quality program for all levels in all disciplines at the Braemar Arena and the
detrimental impact that a significant reduction in the number of ice hours would have
on the Club's current skating program and its ongoing viability.
Thank you for your consideration.
Res,,, tfully submitter{,
Patricia St. Peter
President, U.S. figure Skating
Siman Hnwl
Froin: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mall
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:08 AM
Subject: FW: Give the kids equitable ire time
'i -his message has been forwarded to the Mayon, City Cotincil and the Parks & Recreation Director.
Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
952-826-0342 1 Fax 952-826-0389
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From: Melissa Freeland(mailto:mellssamfreeland@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Give the kids equitable ice time
Jim;
I'd like to shtlre m)r Support of* providing Ff ]A with priority [oI- ice time luui in proportion to the n
Number oFpuriicipants, lets give the kids ihcil' due!!
\,lelissa Frechilid
Sent from my Whom
Begin f'orwarded message:
From: F,(lina Hockey Association <no -re iiN,O) w\vNv.e(iinl7hocke)?tlssocitttioI).Cow"
Date: July 16.2013. 9:18:28 AM CDT,
To: Inclissmill'reel titd�ri?�lthoo.cont
Subject: PLEASE READ: Priority Use Agreement I'm, Braemar Arena
Itepl;y To: ito_reply(tr?ww�w.ldinflhock �tssocintiun com
Judy C1oodIIttill W'dina I Ioekey Associatit) n) sign you a message.
A4essage To ell til lit Families Regarding Priority Use AgrccmenI for Braemar Arena
'i'his cvcning the lidina City Council will be asked In aU on a proposal From the lidinu Pill'ka turd Recreation
Department regordiug ice allocation for Braemar Arena. After reviewing the policy Iatd the Ihets. the til Irl is ouahic
to support the Department's recommendations as a long-term solution to ice allocnlion and we're providing you
some background on the issue, the rellsoning lilr our pwilion and how vola can help.
Braemar Arena is the 0111\-- f•:dina lhcilily ulili/ed by youlh athletic associations that operates wiihnut a user priority
access tif!reenunt. I he CIIy Council direcled the Parks and Recreation Depalrnolmlt to recommend It Priority llse
Palicv. "fhe recommendation designates i iscr Priority N I to nll city-sponsurcd events>liulctinns, Priorit}il2 to the
Edina I ligh School I lackey, Teams, Priority 113 to city -recognized Edina youth athletic associations (1:IIA). Priority
ILl t0 org.anl'zatious that have comsectllively rented ice (13rciemar (. ity (li• bakes Figure Skating (;Inh- 1301,1 SC),
Priorit)tis — all nun -resident programs.
I'he Parks and Recreation Doparuncnt's recommendations include all(mblh the IWI.I :SC to Hirst fulfill its ice need~
prior to chi• lit IAS being allowed to purcliase ally lwaililhle ice. It also dues not reflect a liar allocation of ice hawd on
pirlicipanis or Edina residency.
What are the leets; 13CI,FS hits 128 nlentbers. •10°;; oi' which are F(lina residents liar it lotul resident populatim of
51. hi IA has 1,323 members (350 girls. 97.1 boys), 99'X, okvitich aro Edina residents or attend Edina schools Im it
local resident population of 1,310• The City of I'dina's youth aihletic association resideticy requirement is 90% and
\vas adiustcd to 00% liar the 1{dine S\vim Chlb, 'I'hc 1.3(1,FSC currently rents 700 hours alto I -AIA currently rents
2.,000 hours per season at Braemar fur a total of 2,700 hours. The I3CLFSC's 700 hours tire prime lime Monday
Sunday and (lo tai include ally Friday, Saturdny or Sulxhty night time slots, The average !'dint yontli hockey player
receives about i hour per week ill Bracnnm and spends 3-a hours at other archils around the mean. The average
{ ignre skater receives nearly i hours of ice per Aveck ut Braemar.
Hic til IA is seeking if proportiinme distribution of ice time rclaled lit the percentarc ol• I?dini rusidclicy Iii' both
groups and, as it Priority U (Isc•r. the ability ill fullill our ice nulls before a Priority Yet or 05 User.
What You Can I)o
Il'you Support the position ()!'life Ill IA, you caul provide support in ora of two method;,,
1. Ahead the Edina City Council meeting tonight ('Tuesday) at 7 p.m. at City (hill. Perhaps bring your ph(ycr(s) atmf
have them \rear one of their Fain hockey,ierscyS.
2. Send ;m email to the Nelayor, City Council Members find City Officials. Names and crnttil addresses are:
The I lonortble .hones I Iovland, I\•fayor of Edina, nlaibii'p.,ua
'fhc Ilunorahle.loni Bennctl, Edina City Council i\Member. jonihenictl3'rrcontcitst.let
'I he honorable.\Mun° Brindle. lidina City Council \dember. mhrindle[r:ci\ntctt .nci
I he IMonorable josh Sprague. Edina Ci(y C'ooncil �'Icmbcr,,Iositspr(gne ii edinare:ilt.citm
']'he i Iollorible Arlo Swenson. Edina ('it ('onuncil I\'Icnnhcr. S\\enanann I 12-11iliLcunh
Nell., Scoll Neal. Fdinit C'ily Manager. meal a ciliniuitn.uo\
Nts. Ann Kalieh, Mina Parks and Recreation I)ircclor. akainchvi�linamu.Lnv
Please contact any 1:1 1l.\ Board IWember ifyou have questions (atones and phone nomhers listed on our lvebsitc).
Ron ('reel
IEIA President
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Susan Howl
To: City Council Members
subject: FW: Regarding Priority Use Agreement for Braernar Arena
From: Ann Kattreh
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:25 PM
To: Susan Howl
Subject: FW: Regarding Priority Use Agreement For Braemar Arena
P'Of' C01-11-lcil
Ann Kattreh, Parks & Recreation Director
952-826-0430 l Fax 952-826-0385
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From: Andy Hatch [mailto:ahatchCcOacendas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:08 PM
To: Ann Kattreh
Subject: Regarding Priority Use Agreement For Braemar Arena
I strongly agree that something needs to be balanced out when over .50% of the Figure Skating Participants are
From outside l:�"dina. I've always thought it was odd that the majority of our EI IA ice time is outside of
Braemar.
Andy
Andy Hatch
Account Executive
Acendas
Meetings & Incentives
952-224-4827
a hatch Aacendas.com I www,acetidas.com
Susan Howl
TO: Ann Kattreh
Subject: Youth Hockey
To whom it may concern,
I would like to express my concern over the lack of ice available to our youth hockey association players. Please give
serious consideration to finding a solution to solving our ice allocation issues. I would prefer to have my children skate
in Edina and not spend my time driving to other communities to have thein play and practice everyday.
I will make certain to show my support for Edina elected officials based on the handling of this issue.
"Thank you,
Scott dell
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16. 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: I'M EHA ice time at Braemar
This message has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
1- ': Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
'�Ir=� 952-826-0342 i Fax 952-826-0389
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From: Pat Cronin[mailto:PatCroninCgincenti_v_eservices.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:40 AM
To: Edina Mail; 'jonibennett12@comcast,net'; Mary Brindle (Comcast); 'joshsprague@edinar-ealty.com';
'swensonannl@gmail.con-l; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: EHA ice time at Braemar
Dear City Council, Mayor and City Managers,
I am in favor of the EFIA proposal to seek a proportionate distribution of ice time per the below EHA recommendation:
Proposal:
The EHA is seeking a proportionate distribution of ice time related to the percentage of Edina residency for both
groups and, as a Priority #3 User, the ability to fulfill our ice needs before a Priority #4 or #5 User.
I have been a player and coach in the Edina Hockey Association since 1977. Today, while coaching my two mite age boys
(8 and 6 yrs old), we have to travel to other arenas for the majority of our practices and garnes. I believe we can do a
better job allocating ice on a proportionate basis.
Thank you for your consideration.
Regards,
Patrick J. Cronin
Incentive Services - Vice President of Sales
7640 Golden Triangle Dr.
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
952-944-8284
etc incentiveservices.com
www.incentiveservices.com
Susan Howl
Subject: Fair Access
Mayor -
Please see the stats below •• I've always wondered why my kids (7 and 5) are on the ice at Braemar on weekend night; 7
AM, etc. and when they are they are sharing the ice with another hockey team (30 kids on the ice) while another rink is
used by 5-6 individuals. Often I'm driving to St Louis Park, Richfield, Eden Prairie, Golden Valley, Hopkins etc. for
practices (I was at rinks in every one of those towns at least 3 times last year) - many times having to chose which kid
goes to practice because while both kids are in Edina hockey one is practicing in Richfield and the other in St. Louis Park
at the same time. instead of both being able to practice on their home ice.
The fact a club with 51 Edina kids in it can take priority over a group with over 1300 Edina kids is silly
Please schedule Braemar as other fields are scheduled - with priority for Edina's kids.
Thanks
Matt Brumbaugh
5800 South Drive
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the abilih to ritllill out' ice needs bcli)re it Priorily till of -85 User.
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastnet on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: FW: Mayor Hovland RE: EHA
This message has been forwarded to the Mayor, City Council and the Parks & Recreation Director
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From: Ashley Hughes[maiito:ashleyhuf;hesl@icloud.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:43 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Mayor Hovland RE: EHA
I support the Edina Hockey Association and their proposal for rink time allocation.
Ashley Hughes
Edina resident and hockey mom
Susan Howl
Importance: High
RE: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
Dear Mr. Hovland,
I've recently become aware of the Edina Parks and Recreation Department's recommendations to allow the
Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club (BCLFS(:) to first fulfill its ice needs prior to the Edina Hockey Association
(EHA) being allowed to purchase any available ice. This does not reflect a fair allocation of ice based on participants or
Edina residency. In fact, it is basically reverse discrimination by Edina in favor of non-residents, by about a factor of
more than 30!, in terms of ice time per club member.
From EHA, 1 understand the following: BCLFS has 128 members, 40% of which are Edina residents for a total
resident population of 51, EFIA has 1,323 members (350 girls, 973 boys), 99% of which are Edina residents or attend
Edina schools for a total resident population of 1,310. The City of Edina's youth athletic association residency
requirement is 90% and was adjusted to 60% for the Edina Swim Club. The BCLFSC currently rents 700 hours and
ENA currently rents 2,000 hours per season at Braemar for a total of 2,700 hours. The BCLFSC's 700 hours are prime
time Monday._- Sunday_ and do not include any Friday, Saturday or Sunday night time slots. The average Edina youth
hockey player receives about 1 hour per week at Braemar and spends 3-4 hours at other arenas around the metro..
The average Faure skater receives nearly 4 hours of ice per week at Braemar.
How is it possible that our own Parks and Recreation Department has recommended a policy that takes an already
imbalances) situation and makes it even less favorable for Edina residents?!
I would definitelv_. like_ to_receive _an gnswer this_questioii. 1 would like to know wily the Edina Parks and Recreation
Department thinks it's a good idea to favor non-rdina residents.
I am very glad that these issues have: come to light. Sunshine is the best anesthetic, I hope that the parents of the
1,323 members of EHA are able to provide a tiny bit of influence to bring out a revised and more rational
recommendation from Edina Parks and Recreation Department, and to have a more reasonable Priority Use
Agreement for Braemar Arena created.
Kind regards,
Mike
Michael Haukaas, Ph.D.
Billion & Armitage, P.A.
7401 Metro Blvd, Ste 425
Edina, MN 55439
952-697-2634 (direct)
Susan Howl
From; Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: FW: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
This message has been forwarded to the Mayor, City Council and the Parks & IZecreation Director.
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From: Kapacinskas, John [mailto:john,kapacinskas@ nortonrosefulbriglit, com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:45 AM
To: Edina Mail; 'Jonibennett12@comcasLnet'; Mary Brindle (Comcast); 'joshsprague@edinareality,com';
'swensonannl@gmail,com'; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
1-1 i,
1 want to share with you my opinion that the proposal of the Parks and fie ereaIion Dopartment's priority use policy, as
currently written, is not flair to Edina youth hockey teams, I have two children involved in rdiva youth hockey. We
spend a lot of time driving around the metro for practices. A n ore fair approach would be to allocate iime as proposed
by Ron Green. Thank you, --John
John F. Kapacinskas 1 Partner
Fulbright & Jaworski LLP
2100 IDS Center, 80 South Eighth Street, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402-2112, United States
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From: Edina Hockey Association [mailto:no-rely=www,edinahockeyassociation.comCasportngin coni] On Behalf Of
Edina Hockey Association
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:22 AM
To: Kapacinskas, John
Subject: PLEASE READ: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
;i 7
Judy Goodman (Edina Hockey Association) sent you a message.
Message To all EHA Families Regarding Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
This evening the Edina City Council will be asked to act on a proposal from the Edina Parks
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10-55 AM
Subject: FW: Opinion of the Distribution of Ice at Braemar Arena Vole this evening
This message has also been forwarded to the 1Vlayor.
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From: Kate Shoemaker [mailto:kateshoernakerll (D nlail.comj
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:97 AM
To: Edina Mail; ionibennettl20comcast,net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprac ue(tedinarealty.corn;
swensonannIPgriiail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Opinion of the Distribution of Ice at Braemar Arena Vote this evening
I ani writing today in reference to the City Council vote this evening regarding the proposal frons the I:dilla
Parks and Recreation department liar the allocation of ice at l31-aernar Arena, 1 and a 20 year resident of Gdina
and have three boys who currently play 111 the I Jinn I locket' association and have Ior the past 10 yelp's. For the
past several years, we have noticed a decrease in the amount of ice tinge that is allocated to my three sons teams
at Braemar As a result, this has put more strain on our family. We have had to travel all over the metro area to
many arenas such as, Aligsburg, Ridder, and Marrucci, Which is hard to imagine bvllcll we have a 3) rink al'ella
ill our backyard. This has increased costs, ror parking and Cost ol*tlle ice hourly and demanding more travel
time which ultimately takes away limns otir quality family time. Another concern is the times than halve been
allocated to thesi teams, this young boys arc forced to practice late on school nights and in addition to the
weekends, it would be nice to have the option to skate after school since in awhile. The amount of time given to
each tenni is aboui an hour a week at Braemar which seems out of line with the alllaunt ol'kids thal participate
in this program. 'I'ilis hockey associations is one ol'thc best in the state and we tare requesting is I. ding residents
and members ol'the Eding hockey Association to reject the proposal firoln the I:;dina Parks and Recreation
Depal-tllleilt.
Regards,
Kate and Doug Shoemaker
Susan Bowl
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena - please support our youth hockey!
The. Honorable )antes Hovland, The Honorable Joni Bennett, The Honorable Mary Brindle, The Honorable Josh
Sprague, The Honorable Ann Swenson, Mr. Scott Neal, and Ms, Ann Kattreh,
Ron Green, our EHA President, shared the proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation Department regarding ice
allocation for Braemar Arena. After reviewing the policy and the facts, T agree with the EHA's position not to support
the Department's recommendations as a long-term solution to ice allocation.
Please fulfill the ice needs of the EHA prior to that of the BCLFSC, as it does not reflect a fair allocation of
ice based on participants or Edina residency. This misallocation could cause current EHA skaters to
evaluate other programs.
EFIA has 1,323 members, 99% of which are Edina residents or attend Edina schools for a total resident population of
1,310. The EHA currently rents 2,000 hours per season. The average Edina youth hockey player receives about 1 hour
per week at Braemar and spends 3-4 hours at other arenas around the metro.
BCLFS has 12.8 members, 40% of which are Edina residents for a total resident population of 51. The BCLFSC
currently rents 700 hours per season. The BCLFSC's 700 hours are prime time Monday - Sunday and do not include
any Friday, Saturday or Sunday night time slots. The average figure skater receives nearly 4 hours of ice per week at
Braemar.
We would attend the Edina City Council meeting tonight, however we have an Edina Rink Rats session, at which
William will be wearing his Edina jersey.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Joel £k Kendra Turba (current EHA skater William and future EHA skater Ellie)
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Susan Howl
Subject: ice allocation
1 ;1111 disappointed to learn that your department's ice allocation reconllnenclation seems to disproportionately
favor 51 resident figure skaters vs 1300-1- resident hockey players. 1'nl sure it is difficult to be a figure skater Ill a
community that boasts the largest youth hockey association in the country.... but the is the LARGI3ST YOUTI i
i-IOCiCI Y ASSOCIATION IN 7TIE COUNTRY, and serves'26 resident hockey players Im every figure
skater,
Honestly I'd think the figlll-C Skate) -.9 WOUld feel iucky to get any hall -decent ice time at till llndel- SUCK a
circumstance. Hoa- they even get 700 hours to F.Clilla I lockey's 21000 is perplexing to n1e. 1"o take it to a level
where the figure skaters fire getting to fill all their ice needs bcF0i-c the liI IA gets all)' ice Nvoilld be OlItI lgCOLIS. I
urge all addressed and copied on this email to consider the resident participation ratio here is 26:1. 26 hockey
players Ian• every figure skater. This Is not eolllphcated Illath, The FA IA should not be in a situation N,vherc they
are deibnding lllCil- CUrrellt position ill the peeking order --they should be getting IvtORI; ice time. In addition,
the EEA is the Feder program to the I-I.Igh School team. If the high school tealll is truly it priority in this
equation, that must be takcil into consideration as well. I have nothing against figure skating. 1 think all sports
are a huge part of dcveloping great kids. This isn't about ligure skating, it's about common sense, If there were
5 kids who wanted to do javelin, you wouldn't give them 30% of the time available at Kuhlman field that
currently is used by LaCrosse .leagues. And we're not talking about trumping LaCrosse ... we'rc talking about
Hockey.
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16. 2013 11:10 AM
subject: FW: Braemar Arena - Ice Allocation
1 -his message has leen forwarded to the Mayor, City Council and the Parks & Recreation Director.
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952-826-0342 1 Fax 952-826.0309
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From: Paula Colestock[nlailto:paulacolestockft1hoo_colnI
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:19 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subjects Braemar Arena - Ice Allocation
Mayor Hoviancl,
1 received an enlail Fronl 171-1/\ about ice distribution and am conliicled its to how I ]ccl because i also purchase
ice Cor Illy women's hockey tealll. Every year, Illy-'vonien's (caul pen'ChaSeS ice at al loctd arcual but it is
maddening because I \vlll respond \vitliill a few minutes ofrecelvillg tile. open Ice schedule and Illll'aClllOn3ly,
every year, 1-,Vl-sRY SINGLE HOUR office at a decent tinge is ttlken by someone else who purcllaSes 11101re ice
how's than our te1111), so \ve arc left \•vith start tinles of I Opnl or Inter which is not desirable for our team.
One one hand, I agree that El -.in should have priority so that Edina kids can play tit their home :frena. 13ut on
the other hand, I know that even il' l HA were to take the 700 hours firom the figure skating club. 17A JA kids
would :hill have to platy tit other arenas to fill their practice schedule. Note that illy son has played hockey lin•
E;1-iA the last 4 years, flockey families everywhere know that tiley have to be flexible during hockey scllson
because they have to go where the ice is availabie for tinge and location.
My recommendation \yould he to keep the ice priority at Braemar basically the same as it has becn in the past
by allowing the figure skaters to have their hours and FA IA take whatever is left and distrihutc a111011gst the
hockey teams for home games, N'ly Understanding is that most of the ligUl-C skating hours are in the linst rink.
so even ii'they are taking prime hours, []lose hours are on only 1 of 3 rinks. There may have to be sonic
conlpt•onlise tlS to ho\y the hours Eire distributed so that it N t lir but I like that 131-a villa r is llo111e to all 1"111A
hockey tennis and to the figure skating group.
Thank you for your consideration.
Paula Colestock
6613 SOLIt11C1'CSl !.)rive
i?dina MN 55435
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: FW: Braemar Ice Arena priority allocation
phis rnessage has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
5352-826-0342':. Fax 952-826.0389
(' ekastner2EdhaMN.goy_ I v y w Edinah*kjov
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From: Mark Waterloo [rrtaiito_mwaterloo7 algnlail,conl]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2013 10:24 AM
To: Edina Mall; ioonibennetti2c comcast. net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); ioshsprague@edtnareWW.com;
swensonatlnl@gnlail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Braemar Ice Arena priority allocation
To City Council and Parks and Recreation Department:
1 wtulted to express my support liar Edina Hockey Association and a lair allocation of ice at Braemar
Arena. We are in favor ol'supporting both the (igurc skating needs and the youth hockey needs although it
Should be done titirly. and it appeal's over tilt years all the youth hockey teams spend more and Vlore time
practicing at flditics outside 01'I31-acnlar, Clearly there is not enough ice available al l3raclnar Arena alone to
satisfy all the ice needs so hdina residents never have to travel to other Ideations, ho\-vever, it wouldn't seem lair
that sonic residents never have to travel Outside Rdilltl to pl•aCtice while others have to travel a majority ol'the
time. It would seem the travel burden should be shared in sonic lashion and 1 would request it be shared fairly
across the Edina population. Thank you for considering my position on this issue as it long time Edina resident.
Mark & Beth Waterloo
5313 l lalilax Ave. South
Edina, 1IMN 55424
952-926-2706
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16. 2013 11:12 AM
Subject: FW: Ice Allocation Proposal
This 11iess,1ge has also I)een forwarded to the Mayor.
-; Emilie Kastner, Communications Assistant
'
952826- 0342 I Fax 952-826-0389
tf 1} ekastnernlEdinaMN.gov I %mw.Edinatv1N.gov
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From: Kimberly Behm [mai Ito: behmera@holmall.c_om]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:28 AM
To; Edina Mail; jonibennetll2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); 'oshs ra tleaedinarealty,com;
swensonanni(cDgmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Ice Allocation Proposal
i)ettr. bines I1,10and. ,Irani Ikomm. \tai) Iiriudle. losh fipra,•uc. ;\I, it NNtcnson. Scott Neil, and Alin h::nueil.
I havc•just learned that rite I'd!nu Cit} (. uunoil tt ill be it:l;cd In acl un It propo,al from the l tlilm Tarn, anti R.,vrriuitat I h�purunenl r+'g;adine. Ill I
iee ill laeaIion lin• 1iI;wlwil' All`nll tit i+ e•+enin.s. 'I h propu.:d oud;ne n prinril) chrdule li+r purehnsti ;rod u> til' icr ns Iblh+n <:
I. (.:h1'-�puti�gted iu`I:I>'rUtiellOnS;
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1. OriullIilitiolIN that hitt• oIlisccliIivcl) renlyd icc I ItraetIll r Cin ofl.akes I'i,!ure Shininti CI I I h - IX,I 1'ti( ): ;,ud
_. Vin -resit lent pr emits,
I)espitr Ihr ahn+e-grit+til) schcdok!. the plop,uad di'mius Ihtt 11w IWI I'S(' hr Immilicd to fillip it> icc need, helint' 1.11:1 i, a llan+�'d ;+t l+urcha.c
ltcailublc ice, I Int ag;linst Ilii. proposal ,anal urge roll In rejecl it.
I ha++ chil,lrt'n itcaitel+ iu+uhQd in 1.1I 't i,nxi cit ;ulditinn:d child +t Im t+ill hojoilrin,, Ilan rauk:. in +eat: i. I hr I I IA rmw.iII+ 11- 1.9' i
ntemhers, W)"e. nl'tt hick air I'din:i r+' itlenh nr aUeud I:d rata sch+aal . �ieum+hilr, th+ lit'I i S(.: Itnt ;t it(r. I .'.S ut, mh r, ;amt on l+
menther:: are i dins rusidcnts. Sieatilit-mtllt. the 1'1 m icor, 2,0(io lunar, per \o;smm at limenitu; tthercna the li('1•I tit' curr.ntic anti} rCIIIN 700 Iwtu:
TIft: pro I)ostd d(i s not rellect :i propertionaie distribution of Icc lime reIll led Io IIte per eenlage of Edina resident)' for ho III groups itI)(I ibe
1 -All should cte;u•ly hove the ability it) fulfill its ice needs Nfiwe it Priority 4 ur 5 user,
Thank you liar boar cnn.idmidon nt•llir "Ibme
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Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kaslner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday. July 16. 2013 11'14 AM
Subject: FW; Edina Hockey
This message has also been forwarded to the fvlayor, City CUu1161 and the Parks & Recreation director.
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From; Alina Perez -Campos [mailto:alinapc53Pgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:31 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Edina Hockey
I-lonarabie Mayor 1-lovland,
As n resident ol'Edina, and as (lie mom to TWO hockey players, I would ask you to reconsider the currently
proposed ice time distribution arrangements, EI -IA should have priority in scheduling ice time as a priority 3
user. WC should have the ;ability to I'ullili our ice nerds before a 114 or #5 user. Thank you.
Alina Peres Campos
4509 Parkside Lune
Edina 55436
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kastner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: FW: Parks & Recs Edina Ice Arena allocation proposal.
This message has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
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From: Steve Denault[mailto•sdenauit(Oiiorthlandcapitalmarkets.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:41 AM
TO: Edina Mail; 'jon1bennett12@ccmcast,net'; Mary Brindle (Comcast); 'joshsprague@edinarealty.com';
Iswensonanni@9maii,coln'; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Parks & Recs Edina Ice Arena allocation proposal,
Dear City Council Members,
I support the Edina Parks & Recreation proposal to provide EI -IA priority use of Braemar Arena relative to that of 13CLFS.
Sincerely,
Steve Denault
Northland Capital Markets
45 South 7th Street
Minneapolis, MN 55436
Direct 612-851-4912
Trading 800-851-4595
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Susan Howl
Frorn: Emilie Kaslner on behalf of Edina Wil
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: FW- Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
This message has also been forwarded to the Mayor.
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From: Cavanor, Stephanie[nlailto:Stephanie.A.Cavana_@nlarsh.com]
Sent; Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:44 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennettl2 c@conicast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsp hgye c edinareal .corn;
swensonannlcl gmail,conl; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: Priority Use Agreement for Braemar Arena
All,
I am writing to express my support of EHA's position of proportionate distribution of ice time related to
the percentage of Edina residency for both groups arid, as a Priority W3 User, the ability to fulfill our ice
needs before a Priority #4 or #5 User.
It seems our community should support and prioritize ice usage in direct relation to the benefit of Edina
residents by volume.
Please consider this at the meeting tonight,
Thanks for your consideration and service to the City of Edina,
Stephanie Cavanor, Senior Vice President
Marsh 1 333 South SCVenth Street, Suite 1600, Minneapolis, MN 55402
i 1 612 692 7780 I Fax +1 612 692 7936 1 stephanie_a_cavanor'almarsli.com
NO'rE: Effective August .19, 2013, n5y office address will change, The new address will be 333 South Seventh Street, Suite 11100,
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From: Emilie Kaslner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: FW: Braemar
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From: Jeff Wesselman [mailto:ieff.wesseiman c@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:46 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar
As a father to both an Edina Hockey Player and as a supporter of the Braemar Figure Skating Club, I am writing
to ask that you and the City Council reject the proposal from the Edina Parks and Recreation Department
regarding ice allocation and to recommend that the EHA be given ice allocation priority U3 over Figure Skating
Chub #t4,
Thank you. Jeff Wesselman
Susan Howl
From: Emilie Kasiner on behalf of Edina Mail
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: FW: Uraemar
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-----Original Message -----
From: Alex & Ted Christianson [mailto:tofte@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Braemar
Dear Honorable James Hovland, Mayor of Edina,
I know you are about to get flooded with anti figure skating emails- EHA sent out an email, Since we are a family of
both Figure skaters and Hockey players I am DEEPLY concerned. Here is the scoop- does Edina want to be in the role of
determining/selecting which sport is more important? I have always believed that Edina prided itself on being open,
diverse, welcoming and supportive of its youth. By making a judgement call on which sports are more important is none
of the above. As someone who help developed and ran the girls youth and middle school lacrosse program in Edina and
in the metro area I understand growth and growing pains but it is also the responsibility of the organization to know
their limits and know their cap. Growing too quickly and "murdering" another sport is poor judgement, poor
sportsmanship and is it really what we want to be known for? Braemar City of the Lakes Figure Skating club has a
national and world reputation and audience- it would be a shame to put a black eye on Edina for selecting which sport is
more important over another one. Edina needs to make sure the bills are paid and BCLFSC is able to pay for ice.....
Respectfully -
Alex Christianson
Susan Howl
Dear Mayor Hovland,
Please support the Edina Hockey Association's position that they are seeking a
proportionate distribution of ice time related to the percentage of Edina
residency for both groups and, as a Priority #3 User, the ability to fulfill our ice
needs before a Priority #4 or 45 User. I am a long time supporter of EHA, 1 travel
more times than not to other locations, incurring time, expenses, and other costs,
in support of our Edina Youth Hockey Program.
I do not support the Park and Recreation's decision to allow the Braemar City of
Lakes Figure .Skating Club - BCLFSC priority over Priority 1, 2 or 3 Users.
I would prefer to have the BHA use the convenient ice location (Braemar) and
time slots for our girls U8, UIO and boys Termites an Mites, so they can get a
great start on a great tradition of Edina Hockey.
Please consider the impact to 1300 residential users (the kids), and the Edina
Families and extended Edina Hockey Community as you base your decision.
Best regards,
William Wolfe
4408 Gilford Drive,
Edina, MN 55435
Susan Howl
NklyOr, City Council Members, City Manager, and Parks and Rccrctltion ,)hector:
1 ani a resident of, Edina lvilh three active children. We are vc1;y happy with our decision to establish slur home in
(:dill"). It is u'uly a great conlnitnlity. I.Inst read sonle Ill(l)1'lll,lti0n regal'dillg the allot Ilion of ice time at Braemar and the
proposals 11111h will be discussed this evening.
I and unable to attend the meeting this evening, but I request that you St11)pOrt the 1)1'01)08,11 11'0111 ExIillti Hockey Association
seeking a proportionate distribution of ice; time related to the percentage of I'.dina residency lOr both groups nnd, as a
Priority #3 User, the ability to fulfill 1 FIA's ice needs before a Priority #4 or 115 User.
It does not seem Gait' that any group (11,11 is 1101 primarily Edina based, Should tic allocated so much prime ice
time. Nothing against the figure Skating Club, but I think any group could spend s01110 of their ice lime at dil'I'al'ent
arenas at random limes like every hockey player and hockey ftlnlily is expected to do. I can speak from experience. it is a
palll having to traveling t0 other areilas Im ice time. Nly son had an entire season as a Mile \villi almost no ice lime at
Bracniar. I d0 not think you should be focuscd oil 2000 hours vs. 700 hours. I (ed the oilly tilil' way 10 100k lit this isstle
Is from the impact oil the individual skater and Edina flanlily.
Regards,
Jon
OPPENHEIMER
UPPOMLIM0 WULI I d 00I1(.LL_Y :0
Jonathan H. 5techmann
Attorney at Law
Campbell Mithun Tower - Suite 2000
222 South Ninth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55402-3338
T 612.607.7579
F 612.607.7100
C 612.388.7209
Susan Howl
From: Ann Kallreh
Sont: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Susan Howl
Subject: FW: Braemar
Please forward to Council
Ann Kattreh, Parks & Recreation Director
952-826-0430 1 Fax 952-826-0385
AKattreh cy EdinaMN.govI www kdinaMN.gov
...For Living, Learning, Raising Families & Doing Business -----Original Message ------
From: Alex & Ted Christianson Imailtoaofte@earthlink. net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:11 AM
To: Ann Kattreh
Subject: Braemar
Dear Ms. Ann Kattreh,
I know you are about to get flooded with anti figure skating emails- FHA sent out an ernall. Since we are a family of
both Figure skaters and Hockey players I am DEEPLY concerned, Here is the scoop- does Edina want to be in the role of
determining/selecting which sport Is more important? I have always believed that Edina prided itself on being open,
diverse, welcoming and supportive of its youth. By making a Judgement call on which sports are more important is none
of the above. As someone who help develop and ran the girls youth and middle school lacrosse program in Edina and in
the metro area I understand growth and growing pains but it is also the responsibility ofthe organization to know their
limits and know their cap. Growing too quickly and "murdering" another sport is poor judgement, poor sportsmanship
and is it really what we want to be known for? Braemar City of the Lakes Figure Skating club has a national and world
reputation and audience- it would be a shame to put a black eye on Edina for selecting which sport is more important
over another one. Edina needs to make sure the bills are paid and BCLFSC is able to pay for ice.....
Respectfully -
Alex Christianson
Deb
From:
Caryn Kadavy <freesk88@grnail.ecnn>
Sent:
Monday, July 29, 2023 3:02 PM
To:
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast,net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshstarague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmail,com; Scott Neal; govakattreh@edinamn.gov
Cc:
Kathleen Schmalz - Gazirh; Loni Keenan
Subject:
Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
Dcc r .1-l.oti.oi-ible M�iyo.1- and City Council Members,
This letter is regarding the recent negotiations between. Braernar Ice
Arena, Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skat�in-) Oub and the Edina
Hockey Association to create a priority facility raise agreement.
Being new to the MinneaP olis area. forone and a halfyears, I am
fortunate to .have been wel.coined into the Braernar Ice Arena and
Th.e Braemar City of Lakes Skating Club, surroun ed. by
experienced coaches and staff. The skating club has always
provided the amount of ice time for their coaches and
needed demand for figure skatirne; at a. level of competitiveness,
growth and c.lr .a.lity for a. skater.
Originally frorn. Erre, Pel7nsylvanra, the ice time was only available
;pix months ou.t of the year. In order to coiatinue niy figure skating
training, I h.ad to leave my hometown and I experienced juan.y Ice
aren.a.s across tl.-tc country to pursue my dr~earns of becoming a
National, World and Olympic competitor. Many of these facilities
fortunately, provided the sufficient availability of Ice th-ne in. place
.for proper training and, environrnents for coaches and, skaters
combined., Without tl�_a.t, I would not 1-r.ave been able to continue
my growth. with th.e coaches and facilities that ultirn.ately
catapulted my career to becorne a foL1.1-- time United. States National.
',Med.al.i.st, Wor1.d.:Qr°onze Medalist c nd 1988 Olympiaaa.
When I decided to move to 1Vljn-neapolis '�nrith my husband, I felt
confident drat with. Braemar City of Lakes Figure SkatilI Club`s
track i ecord of producing high. achieving skater's and high- level.
coac, es, f could continue to pursue n -1y successful coaching career;,
1. hope you cart. consi.delr the well-being of our skaters and all
coaches that would be affected by cha ages that could occur if .i.ce
t:in.ie were to be eli«1i'nated from, the skating club program,
Your help in this matter would be deeply appreciated.
Sincerely,
Cary'n Kad avy
aryn. Kadavy
NroChsiojud figure skating
Coach attd Choreogrophy
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Deb Man en -_
Front:
etta-belrose@contcast.net
5ent:
Monday, July 29, 2013 2:02 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
I -Lockey and figure Skating
Mr. James Hovland, Mayor City of Edina
Please take the time to read this email.
My family and rite have been associated with Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club since '1975.
Our daughter learned to skate at Braemar and continued for 10 years and reached the level of Gold Test
Skater.
I held every office in the chub and have continued to donate illy tilde ever since. I have co-chaired
National, Intei•National and World Colit petlitionships. Recently I co-chaired the Braemar Figure Skating
competition for the last 3 years.
The Braemar Skating Club is well known nationally and especially in the M.idWest. We have produced
several National Chatlipiolls.
Tile argttnlents we have heard from the Hockey Association don't ill "like sense to me.
Figure Skating buys ice ALL year long. We pay the satire price Lis Hockey.
2. Hockey does NOT buy much ice in the summer. There are 2 sheets of ice that go
unused. Their main need for ice is between. Oct and Mar.
3. Braemar FSC has a "Good Will" agreement with S'uzi (Braemar Manager) and
Hockey for 20 years to buy ice as long as we agree to help pay for "Hornets Nest,.
which Figure Skaters do not use. This Good Will Agreement was worked out last
summer, in August.
4. Even if Braemar PSC gave tip all tileil' ice 1t would not be a DROP in the bucket to
solve Hockey's needs for ice.
5. Also, where will the children of Edina residents learn to skate. All these children take
group lessons on Saturday. These groups Have produced many talented Hockey
players, boy and girls. I guess our young Eclina children will have to go to .Eden
Prairie or Minnetonka to learn to skate..
6, The City of Edina built the hornets Nest for Hockey have they considered a 4't'
sheet of ice"?
7. I would REALLY like to know the REAL reason this is happening. Call or email nuc
anytime.
Etta Jane :Melrose, 952 902 9598 ct:ta-belrosel�r comc-,ist.net.
Deb Manger -- - -- _ -
From: Venk Reddy <venk.k.reddy@gmaH.com>
Sent: Monday, Ally 29, 2013 12.;2.9 PM
To; Edina Mail
Subject: Please help our Team !!
Dear Mr, Hovland:
I am writing to request you to kindly support .BCLFSC and Team Braemar. We moved to Edina from South
East Minnesota for the primary purpose of having our daughters skate tin Team l3raernar and be part of an
excellent figure skating club. I am proud to sexy that aur daughter has made the junior team and is going to be
Skating on Team USA this year, it brings us ininlense.joy that our skaters dream has conte true, It saddens lis to
see the sport in lacuna being destroyed due to ice tinge conflicts. Please find t7 way to allow On" girls to continue
to skate at Braemar and be a competitive team at national and international levels.
As a resident of Edina, t do not expect preferred Tee times at Bracmar Golf Course. Why is there so much
importance put to how many non-residents skate at the rink? To be a competitive team we do heed file best
skaters front all over the twin cities. `t'llat's what ptit us on the nlap and got us the great skating awards that ewe
received. Also, we are the oldest -,ill(( beast slab in the city and it does attract a lot of great skaters from either
parts. Why is that it bad thing? Shouldn't we all be proud that people are canting great distances to Edina
because we are good. We should support this diversity lather than put an e.nd to it.
Please let us keep the contract that was agreed to for the next 20 years. Our skating ntenlbers are contributing to
the hornets nest which is primarily meant to benefit hockey. We are fine with continuing to Support that.
I sincerely hope you will support these girls who are working so hard each day to continue to dream to become
great skater and athletes. We appreciate your attention to this matter.
Regards,
Venk Reddy
Cell: 612-483-840
Deb Mtttigen
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From: Ellie Sjoquist <ellie.sjoquist@gmail.corrn>
sent Monday, July 29, 201311:57 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: Near gold
Aly flame is Ellie Sjoquist..[ Anil an Associate member of the BCL SC. I treed you to know that figure skaters
are like fine artists or musicians. ']'here are not thousands of them because of the effort, skill and dedication
required to ptusnc the level Of CXCellence to achieve gold level performance. The art of figure skating is about
learning and achieving (lie highest levels of a sport. It requires testing at least 18 different levels. The goal is to
be the very best skater, team member and citizen you clan be. It cannot be ,judged by number of participants
alone. Lake art figure skming gives back much more to the City than just dollars - It elevates the prestige of the
entire community, Please support the continued success of the BCL,FSC. The city of Edina deserves this type of
prograil oil Braemer ice along side your hockey skaters.
-Thank ank you. Ellie Sjoquist 612-839-4126
Deb Mannen
From:
cdeets@att.net
sone;
Monday, July 29, 2013 11:15 AM
To:
jonibennett12 nbconxast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); swensonannl@gmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh; Edina Mail
subject;
You'd REALLY Let Figure Skating Leave Edina...,?
Attadulients:
BCLFSC Communication 072813.docx
All,
We know hockey is popular and powerful.
But please, please don't let the rest of minnesola look tit Edina increClUlously anti Say; -nicy let their figure
skating club leave the city.,,.? ldow could they have let that happen..,.? That's crazy."
Chris Dects
5301 Hali itix Avenue
Edina
----- Forwarded Message -----
From "ice a braemarfse.org" <ice@braemarfsc.org>
To: ice@braetnarfsc.org
Sent; Sunday, July 2B, 2013 9;33 f M
Subject: Urgent Club Update
July 28, 2013
BCLFSC members and coaches:
As you are aware, a group of Club representatives have been in active negotiations with Braemar Ice
Arena and the Edina Hockey Association to create a priority facility use agreement that works for both
organizations.
At this time we have not found common ground. The position currently being taken by EHA is a one
year phase-out of our existing schedule beginning this Fall, ultimately leaving us in the 2014-2015
season from September 16t" to March15 tb with 5:00am-5:50pm Monday -Friday ice and no weekend
Ice. Summer ice, however, would remain status quo. This would effectively force Braemar City of
Lakes Figure Skating Club to find a new home.
BCLFSC's position is:
The City of Edina is a City of excellence. We have two successful athletic programs/sports,
both of which should have the opportunity to continue to grow and remain successful.
BCLFSC has been a financial contributor to the Arena both in terms if its 47 years of ice usage
fees (millions) and through individual participant fees.
The current proposal negates our Agreement, allocates ice time based on number of
participants and does not provide a long term solution to stabilize and preserve our sport for
the community. There are no other priority use agreements that allocate use based on
participation nurnbers-this would be the first. Moreover ,the cunent proposal does not really
solve the problem, as EHA will still be woefully short of ice,
The problem is a good one ... huge demand for ice by successful youth sports programs (EHS,
EHA, BCLFSC). It has been our proposal that the City take the long view and commit to
developing a long term solution. (i.e., evaluate options for more ice).
We have also suggested that the City create a new user classification titled "Legacy" in which
EHA and BCLFSC are at par together with guaranteed minimum hours that ensure
preservation of our Club.
BCLFSC has requested that the City honor our August 2012 agreement with Braemar Arena,
which retains our current ice schedule (among other longer term East Rink improvements) in
exchange for our $20/member/year commitment to the Hornet's Nest. We did offer up a short
term allocation of ice time (approximately 160 hours) to EHA until this long term solution of
creating a fourth sheet of ice can be achieved.
EHA has rejected this proposal.
EHA asked us to table any solution that would have us jointly pursue a fourth sheet of ice but
we have subsequently learned that they have made a commitment to purchase at least 750
hours of time should it move forward.
The Board is requesting that you get involved by contacting Edina City Council members,
demonstrating your support of the Club and why it is important to you that Figure Skating
continue to co -exist with ENA at Braemar Ice Arena as it has for over 47 years. There is a high
sense. of urgency for you to do this now. It is important that the City Council hear from you, both
skaters and adults, why BCLFSC is important to you and that you want access to the sport of figure
skating in the City of Edina. Below are the contact names and email addresses;
The Honorable James Hovland, Mayor of Edina, mail@edinamn.gov
The Honorable Joni Bennett, Edina City Council Member, jonibennett12@comcast.net
The Honorable Mary Brindle, Edina City Council Member, mbrindle@comcast.net
The Honorable Josh Sprague, Edina City Council Member, joshsprague@ed1narealty.com
The Honorable Ann Swenson, Edina City Council Member, swensonann1@gmail.com
Mr. Scott Neal, Edina City Manager, meal@edinamn.gov
Ms. Ann Kattreh, Edina Parks and Recreation Director, akattreh@edinamn.gov
There has been a lot of media coverage regarding this issue and, in some cases, information shared
that didn't represent the facts. Below are a few key facts and FAQ's we feel are important for you to
know and understand.
Facts:
City of Edina recruited the City of Lakes Figure Skating Club to move to the facility in 1966 to
justify the construction proiect. The Club offered the benefits of purchasing year round ice (to
help finance the Arena) and the opportunities to build a world class figure skating program that
supported all comers.
An aareement was reached between BCLFSC and Braemar Ice Arena in August of 2012 to
Hornet's Nest proiect. Note: the Hornet's nest project primarily benefits hockey athletes
BCLFSC is an important year round financial contributor to Braemar Arena.
o BCLFSC buys ice 61/52 weeks a year (1720 hours)
o BCLFSC purchases 770 hours in Fail/Winter and 950 hours in Spring/Summer
o BCLFSC uses only 1 of the existing 3 sheets of ice at Braemar Arena
o BCLFSC purchases only -13% of prime ice hours available at the Arena during
Fall/Winter
o EHA purchases 2000/2100 hours at Braemar from Oct. 1 - March 151r', Total hours
purchased by EFIA during this timeframe is 5000 hours.
BCLFSC provides opportunities for skaters to participate as athletes in both an individual sport
and a Team sport. BCLFSC attracts top athletes and coaches from within Edina and outside
our community because of our reputation as a competitive training facility. Team Braemar is
recognized nationally and internationally as a premier Synchronized Skating program.
Individual freestyle skater athletes have produced dozens of State and National Champions
and USES Gold Medalists
There are 196 total Club members. There are 130 skater athlete members (18 and under).
Edina residents comprise 49% of Club skater athletes.
FAQs:
Why doesn't BCLFSC contract ice for their members at other ice arenas?
BCLFSC must get permission of existing clubs in their home arenas and cannot compete for their
priority ice time. A majority of area rinks have home figure skating clubs in place, which creates a
barrier to BCLFSC contracting for ice.
Ice is contracted on an individual basis. If the Club buys ice at Braemar or at another arena for
200.00 per hour and only 3 skaters contract ice at 15.00 per session, the Club is left with a 155.00
deficit. A club can only operate in the red for a short time before they cannot operate and have any
purchasing power.
Further, aligning professional coaches with students and vice versa becomes increasingly
complex. Skaters are at varying stages of development and ice sessions are offered by level (i.e.,
higher level figure skaters have different training needs than lower level skaters, just as Mites in
hockey do vs. Bantams). Speed and surface area use increase significantly as skaters progress, so
ice sessions are leveled for the safety and development of all skaters. The Club may not be able to
locate sufficient, contiguous blocks of time at any one facility on a consistent basis. With multiple
skater levels who often require separate Ice time and USES guidelines that dictate a maximum
number of 22 skaters allowed on the ice at one time, blocks of ice are required.
How do other skating clubs in the Twin Cities schedule their ice?
There are no other competitive clubs in the Twin Cities that buy ice at outside arenas on behalf of
their individual skaters, because the arenas associated with their clubs provide enough desirable ice
time for a competitive figure skating club to operate. These clubs offer daily ice after 5:00 pm and
offer weekend ice to their individual skaters, In order to remain competitive with other programs, we
need to offer as much or more as they do, Not only do we have a strong individual program, we also
are the only one with high level synchro teams. There will be no incentive for skaters or coaches to
skate with the Braemar Club if competitive ice sessions are not offered at our rink.
We do buy hours outside of Braemar for Team Braemar because Braemar Arena can not completely
meet the ice needs of an International team, similar to how EHA buys hours outside of Braemar for
their teams.
Do BCLFSC Skater Athletes train at other Ice Arenas?
Yes, our athletes do skate at other rinks. Team Braemar purchases 24-F/o of its annual ice time at
other rinks. Individual skaters buy ice at other rinks, too, when Braemar is not available due to
hockey tournaments and other conflicts.
However, there is a sharp contrast to EHA and BCLFSC when it comes to the feasibility of purchasing
ice at other arenas. The bulk of our members skate as individuals. Consistent blocks of ice time are
required. As such, it is more difficult to acquire time that will be fully contracted by skaters and
coaches without driving both skaters and coaches to simply consider a new club that works better
and offers consistency. Finally, BCLFSC coaches might coach 8 different lessons in a 4 hour period.
They need to be on the same rink and will seek to contract with Clubs that offer consistency. In
hockey, teams must follow the team or no longer be part of a team.
Why is BCLFSC residency % lower than EHA?
EHA is governed by Minnesota Hockey. MH dictates that their affiliates use school boundaries for
membership. BCLFSC is governed by USFS, which dictates that figure skating clubs have an open
policy for membership.
We believe residency should not be at issue as the facility is known as an "Enterprise Facility". It's
revenues are earned solely from participant fees and an allocation of funds derived from municipal
liquor store sales. Edina residents do not directly fund the facilities with their tax dollars although
shortfalls in funding can be and are made from the Cities general Fund.
Why do non -Edina residents choose to be members of BCLFSC?
A track record of producing high achieving skaters. High level coaches, atmosphere and camaraderie
amongst students, coaches and parents. This is vital to the well-being of all skater athletes physically
and mentally in a very demanding sport.
Additionally, skater athletes join BCLFSC to train and compete with Team Braemar/Team USA, the
only international level synchronized skating Team in Minnesota.
Deb Mennen
From: Constance Sjoquist <sjoquist.constance@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 201311:01 AM
To, Edina Mail
Cc: jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl@gmail.conr, Scott
Neal; Ann Kattreh
subject: City of Edina benefits from the presence of an International Figure Skating Team
To the Honorable James Hovland, Mayor of Edina, and members of the Edina City Council,
I live in Burnsville, MN and my daughter Is a member of the Burnsville figure skating club. In addition to skating at the
Burnsville. Ice Center, my daughter is an Associate member of the BCLFSC and skates on Braemar ice. under Loni
Keenan and Joan Orvis - two world-class figure skating coaches. It is because of the reputation of the BCLFSC coaches,
the BCLFSC club skaters, and the fact that the BCLFSC is supported by the City of Edina that we go out of our way to
participate and support the BCLFSC and the city of Edina. Just having our daughter skate alongside Braemar club figure
skating members inspires her to do her very best. Not many cities benefit from such a reputation.
I also have a sister who lives in Edina. The reason she moved to Edina is because of its reputation. She expects Edina to
have amenities and programs that go aspire to a higher level of excellence.
If Edina carves out programs and clubs that are foundational to your reputation of excellence, your city will lose over
time. Your tax base will decrease. It is programs like the BCLFSC that make Edina stand apart.
It is well-known in the figure skating community - where news travels fast locally, regionally, nationally and internationally -
that Edina has a GREAT figure skating program. It has tremendous marketing value. It would be unfortunate for Edina to
lose the BCLFSC club to another city.
Please provide the Braemar figure skating club with the ice times and hours they require to continue to market the city of
Edina.
Kindest regards,
Constance (& Gary) Sjoquist
Cell; 612-669-3672
Deb Mangen
From; George Hadjiyanis <9hadjiy1ni5@comcas01et>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 201310:35 AM
To: Edina Mail
subject: Braemar Ice Time
Honorable Mayor Hovland.
I would like to contact you regarding dee ice tune issue ror Braemar. As anEdina resident and Synehro Parent f
want to make sure you understand our position.
Please do not allow the EIJA and this ice issue to push BC:I�LSC and Team Braemar to another community.
A rewJ points to consider
]) The City of 1_;dina is a City of excellence. we have two successful athletic programs/sports, both of which
should have the oplaortuility to continue to grow and remain successful.
2) BCLFSC has been it inancial contributor to the Arena both in ternis if its 47 years of ice usage fees
(millions) and through individual participant fees.
3) The current proposal negates our Agreement, allocates ice time based on number of:'participants rind does not
provide a long tergal solution to stabilize and preserve our sport for the community, There are no other priority
use agreements that allocate use based oil participation nunlbel;s-this would be the first. Moreover ,the current
proposal floes not really solve (he problem, as EIIA will still be woefully short of ice,
4) We suggest (fiat the City create a new user classification titled "Legacy" in which EIIA and BC.I.,:PSC are at.
par together with guaranteed nlinimuln hours that ensure preservation of oelr Club.
S) I understand that BCLFSC has requested that the City honor our August 2012 agreement with Braemar
Arena, which retains our current ice schedule (among other longer terns East Rink improvements) in exchange
for our $20/member/year commi(nient to the Hornet's Nest, we diel offer up a short terns allocation of ice time
(approximately 160 hours) to EI -.IA until this long teriu solution of creating a fourth sheet of ice call be
achieved. H 11 has rejected this proposal.
6) EI -IA asked us to table tiny solution that would have us jointly pursue a fourth sheet of ice but we have
subsequently learned that they have lllade a coilinlitnlent to Illlrehase at least 750 hours of time should it move
for«ard.
George Hadjiyanis
5608 St. Andrews Avenue
Edina, MN 55424
952-922-4957
ghadiiyanisPcomcast.net
Deb Mannen
Front; Diana Dysta <tliana.dyste@grniil.com}
Sent,. Monday, My 29, 2013 9:32 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibenneltl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joslisprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmail.conx Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject; $upport for BCLFSC
My name is Diana Dyste and I am a former member of the BCLFSC. I support the club
and believe it should continue to co -exist with Edina Hockey Association. Browing up in
Edina, figure skating at Braemar Arena helped shape my future. As an individual and
synchronized skating competitor, I learned how to set goals and work as a team, The
group of skaters, coaches, and parents provided me with support during challenging
youth years. Without this sport and community I might have taken a different path.
Because of the strength of BCLFSC, I qualified for the University of Michigan
Synchronized Figure Skating Team and competed both domestically and Internationally.
I attribute much of who I am today to the community oriented BCLFSC. As a current
Edina resident, I continue to support the club through volunteer opportunities. Please
help the BCLFSC and EHA compromise on sharing ice time.
Sincerest regards,
--Diana Dyste--
,Deb Mangen
From,
Chapman, Wally (RBC Wealth Mgti)t) ,�wally.clwpmati@rbc.com>
Sent:
Monday, July 29, 2013 9:10 AM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject;
El -Mand BCLFSC
Mayor Hovland and the City Council members,
I am writing to you as a parent who has not only grown up playing hockey at Braemar arena but having a son play on the
Edina 2010 State Championship team and now a daughter who is a 9th grader and a member of the Braemar City of
Lakes Figure Skating Club, I feel that I might be one of the few that has experienced this ice issue from both sides. I
haven't been in any meetings and only know what I have been told or read in the paper. I remember driving my son to
other arenas for practice and games when he was growing up. It wasn't ideal, but it worked. In fact, spending that time in
the car with my son was some of the best quality times we had as he was growing up. I would submit that the success
of EHS and the EHA has not been Impacted in any way by the fact that not every practice is at Braemar, I understand
that the BCLFSC has been an anchor tenant at Braemar since the rink opened and has most recently offered to help in
the buildingand maintaining of the Hornets Nest by charging each member a user fee. I also understand that last August
an agreement was reached in principal to sign on for another 20 years. If this is the case, 1 have a problem with the fact
that this agreement may not be honored.
I coached High School Hockey for 19 years at Breck, 1 was a hockey parent myself and I know that while having the best
intentions, hockey parents can be a powerful group when they get behind something like this. The size of the EHA dwarfs
the BCLFSC and there has to be less people from the BCLFSC behind this issue on so I can only imagine the pressure
you and the City Council must be under regarding this issue. I think we both know that the best solution long term is a
new 4th rink. Unfortunately that cant be decided upon in the next month. If the facts I mentioned above are correct, t
would ask that the City honor the agreement and work on a 4th sheet of ice to continue to keep the EHA and BCLFSC as
tenants for many years to come. Thank you for your service to our City.
Best regards,
Wally Chapman
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:58 AM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@conicast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmaitcom; Scott. Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: BCI.PSC Ice Allocations
PLEASE FORWARD TO I I NA CITY STAFT7COUNCIL, as Deeded
Rily 29, 2013
Edina City Council:
I tun writing in regards to your decisions regarding access to ice time for the Braemar City of Lakes Figure
Skating Club (13CI_.FSC), The news reports suggest that you may be considering a simple logical progression
from "Taxpayers pay, so taxpayers should get." 1 would like to explain to you how figure skating does not
follow such a logical tax paying progression. Figure skating follows a broader public service model and might
even be considered city-state collaboration.
My family is the perfect example, While my daughter is a member ofLake Minnetonka Figure Skating Club,
she has also been an associate member of "the Braemar Club for synchronized skating, Braemar has beets the
area's leader in synchro skating performance results. Many other city clubs watch Braemal'S skaters with awe
and amazement and the strength of Bracmar synchro skating is unique to the entire Midwest. lvly daughter
chose to be part of this excellence but she is not unique; Many synchro and individual skaters use BCLFSC's
ice time; they are drawn to the ice tithe by a teem or coach with special skills or availability. Without
significant ice time to practice, these skaters would not achieve their dreams and superior athletes will consider
a relocation to find the resources for their sports. Ice time with more than 20 figure skaters is often dangerous
or unproductive to full ice practicing of routines or programs.
.1 hoped to help you recognize the public service and recognition that BCI.,FSC provides to ,Edina, the metro area
and the state. The ice time allocatiort decisions for BCLFSC should not be based entirely on lax dollars but
instead on resources available and needed to achieve success. Bracmar has a nationally recognized nan•te fmd
reputation built of years of cortsistcncy. Current skaters with long term plans are ah•cady nervous that an ice
time: reduction inay detrimentally affect their training plans. Any significant change in direction needs a
minimum of 11 two to :five year plan.
My flmily'thanks you for Edina's contribution to f-igure skating excellence, Please hotlor and recognize the gift
that Edina has given, world class skaters and their accolades. Please do not be short sighted in your
ciccisi011. Figure skating is a unique sport that is ice time and coaching time dependent. It necessarily needs to
draw from a wider comnIunity Por support and talent. Please continue to be a community leader and to cherish
the treasure that Edina has put into place,
Sincerely,
Grace Sheely
14325 Grenier road
Minnetonka, MN 55345
Grace Sheely
Mimictonka, AKIN 55345
'I've often miss opportunity because it's dressed in overalls rind looks like work" - Thomas k rdison
Deb Manr en
From; David t.itteken <David,Litteketi@cn,biworlt vide.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 20131;50 AM
To: Edina Mail; jot lbennettl2@conicast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinareatty.com;swensonannl
Qgmail.com; Scott. Neal; Ann Katirch
Cc: ice@braemarfsc.org; kgazicli@comcast.net; bhedberg@comcastnet
Subject: Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
First; I want to thank you, in advance, for reading my Email regarding the importance of having access to a high-caliber
figure skating club In Edina. I imagine you are receiving quite a bit of correspondence regarding this issue at this time.
I am writing to you collectively because I have developed a personal or business relationship with most of you in the
nearly 20 years my family has called Edina horde. Whether it be through our top-rated schools; aur collection of
neighborhoods; support for non -profits focused on youth such as Edina A Better Chance or oasis for Youth; or through
our esteemed athletic programs, I had been able to work with many of you to promote a way of life that is unique to our
community.
When our family moved to Edina, I was immediately struck by the collaborative spirit between the schools, city officials,
businesses, churches, and sports leagues, i thought it to be an advantage to living and working in our community. I trust
that this collaborative spirit will continue to nurture our city and provide for a positive resolution and outcome for the
situation at hand.
Tile Braer»ar-City of Lakes FSC is an important community asset and lives up to the high standards our community has
for itself. Both of my daughters, Grace and Caroline, skated in the City Classes and were members of the BCLFSC. My
oldest daughter skated at Braemar from the age of four and continued with the chub through her senior year of high
school, Grace was a National Champion and represented the USA, Minnesota, Edina, and Braemar Ice Arena at
international competitions around the world as a member of Team Braemar, Each time the skaters took the ice, they
were announced as follows, "Next, representing the Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club from Edina, Minnesota,
please welcome Team Braemar." The skaters weren't introduced as being from the Twin Cities or Minnesota, but as
Team Braemar from Edina. Our club's history is so closely linked to Braemar Ice Arena as Braemar is featured in both the
overall club and synchronized skating program's name themselves,
it is important to provide Edhlans and out' neighboring communities with a diverse range of sporting options, including a
world-class figure skating club, Figure skating provides young people with opportunities to compete both as individuals
and team members. My daughters learned how to remain calm and poised while facing intense athletic pressures to
compete on the regional, national, and world stage. My daughters take those skills into the classroom now and into their
professional lives,
Our family still maintains our home in Edina, but is currently living in Shanghai, China on an expatriate assignment. Prion
to our move, we had many bon voyage fetes; three of those were with dozens of Edina families with strong connections
to BCLFSC, 1, too, credit tiie BCLFSC and Braemar lce Arena for building my professional skills. I was a two-time President
of the Club and was honared to be selected as Volunteer of the Year in 2010,
Again, I appreciate your time to review my remarks and trust that our city leaders will work with the BCLFSC and Edina
hockey programs to develop a plan that will maintain and enhance the rich tradition of Edina figure skating and Edina
hockey.
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From, Basil welter <welterb�5il@earthlink,nety
Sent; Monday, July 29. 20131:05 AM
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Qgmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject: The making of a competitive athlete
Dear Honorable Mayor of Edina, Honorable City Collncil, Mr. Neal and Ms. Kattreh,
My narne is Sharon Friedli-Welter and I am a parent of skater Juliana Welter.
Although we are not residents of Edina, we have called Braemar Ice Arena and BCI.FSC our home for the last few years.
call Braemar home because it has become as much a part of our lives as the physical home that we live in Minneapolis.
We came to this club for the coaching, the facility and the wonderful atmosphere that has surrounded Juliana from the
first day we arrived. Did you know that these coaches are of the highest caliber, so much so that skaters from others
states and countries come to our club. just to work with them? And it could be gone.
it is a complex world that of a figure skater, that even myself could not have dreamed we would be a part of. The
dedication required to reach gold in our sport is no easy matter. It requires many hours of time to achieve these goals.
And for coaches dealing with many students of various levels it is almost a juggling act. To ensure that the skater is on
the correct level on the ice for their training neecds,it means one level one session, another level different skater the
next session in order to allow the previous skater time to rest before going back on the ice. Juliana is an elite athlete
who trains at the arena daily on Developmental ice. During the school year she gets tip at 5:30ain arriving at the rink by
6:30am to start her day. Rain, shine or snow storm we have made the trek to Braemar almost daily for 2 % years. Juliana
trains during the school year with the best coaches 2-3 sessions a day and 5-6 days a week. During the summer she Is at
the rink for 2-3 sessions per day on ice. Then add into her day off Ice workouts and dance classes as part of her
conditioning. Now that's dedication! To be an elite athlete requires not just the proper ice, but environment to succeed,
and she does. We chose Braemar to be her home and it saddens us to realize this could change. I can tell you figure
skating is so much more than putting on white skates and a pretty dress. My daughter has learned what it means to be
dedicated and what hard work can achieve. She is entering 9th grade into all honors classes and has aspirations to
someday go to an Ivy League school, and I bet she will.
I know my daughter does not skate during the school year, at the time frame in question, but the decision you make will
impact her greatly. Her coaches who have other students who are not cyber schooled as Juliana is, also rely on
consistent training in one facility to succeed. Taking this away from those skaters would mean some could no longer
skate at Braemar. And as moving from one ice arena to another cannot work for any coach who needs consistent
training ice, it would force the coach to assess the needs of the skater to progress, and the decision would be made to
leave this great duh. There would be no choice. Then that would mean that we would also follow and leave what we call
home, Braemar.
in addition with the discussion of priority Access, I can say we almost feel as if we are no longer wanted by the City of
Edina. This is a shame as we wear our Edina BCLF5C name with pride. When Juliana's name is announced at
competitions both in Minnesota and out of state competitions the announcer says...
"Representinrs Draemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club in Edina Minnesota, Please Welcome Juliana Welter"
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and believe me she represents the city if Edina well.
But this could all change with the decision you make regarding the ice at Braemar arena. 47+ years of history and
thousands of skaters who call Braemar home is a legacy that is just steps away from extinction. You may think this
sounds dramatic, but we know at our club this Is a reality. And if the decision is made to grant EHA Hockey all the hours
they demand, coaches will make the decision that is in the best interest of the skater, forcing BCLFSC to be no more. And.
what a shame that others would not be able to continue this legacy. Future children in Edina and yes surrounding areas
won't be able to experience the richness of this great sport, by this great club, in this great rink, at least not in Edina.
Please give this much thought as to the repercussion it will have to all who love this great club past and present, Thank
you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Sharon Friedli-Welter
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Deb Manaen
From: Wavrin <h20dogsWrontiernet.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 201310:53 PM
To: Ann Kattreh; Scott Neal; swensonannl@grnail.com;joshsprague@edinareatty.com; Mary Brindle (Comcast);
jonibennettl.Vcon,cast.net; Edina Mail
Subject: hi Support of BCLFSC
Follow Up Flag, Fallow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Please consider the following thoughts in support of the Braeniar City of Lakes Figure Skirting Club
When making your decision concerti ing BCLFSC remember to think. outside the rink? Some of the skitters that
are part of the Figure skating chill actually drive X15-60 minutes a clay to skate at Braemar. We are one of those
failiilies acid while our skater is paying for that ice tiulc and paying the conches (most who are local residents)
the fllllily is Shopping at the local grocery stores, shopping at the local malls, and baying bas from local
stations. Why do \ve drive So fiir for Bracmar? Because it has such it \voriderful, ilatiouivide reputation for soille
of the best coaching available. Nlost programs of tiny kind would kill to have such a reputation, so Why wotiltl
13dina \vont to throw this ouff? filially, lets mention that the skating coaches at Bracnlar instill the values that.
build great kids, values thin dont include violence!
Most sincerely,
The Wavrin Family
Henderson, MN
p.s, in making your decision maybe you should spend some time gelling to knew somo of the figure skaters or watch Ilia difference in hour the two groups of
skaters, hockey and figure, treat the facility in question. At 54 years old and having been a hockey player myself, no one can claim that I am biased, but I have
never witnessed a figure skater spilling on Ilia seats or destroying arena property wNh their skates or hockey sticks. I have witnessed hockey players spew sexual
comments at my son when he is figure skating,
Also gel to know the coaches of BCLFSC, they are truly AWESOMElf Not many people have life energy, patience, values, and skills that Joan Orvis has (was
head coach for 20 years) (perhaps what made her a national champlon). Joan is a freasure that every child should be able to get to knowif
Martha Wavrin, physical education and health teacher
Deb Man2en _
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Kathleen Gazich on behalf of Kathleen Gazich :kgazich@comcas[.net>
Sent:
Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:43 PM
To:
Edina Mail
Subject:
Braemar Oty of lakes FSC
Follow Up Flag:
Follow up
Flag Status:
Flagged
July 2P, 2093
11r. or Honorable Mo)lor and OtY council lt-lem hers,
My na►itc is Kathleen Schmelz Gazich and I grew up in Gclina and was a rink. Pat at Braemar Arena. From the tulle I call
remember we were going to the rink. i ani the youngest of'4 children and my thvo older brothers played hockey and my
sister and i figure skated. Asa child, i skated all the tinge. Between skating with Braemar City of Lake Figure Skating
Club and on every available open skating time, my love and talent for the sport grew and flourished, i was fortunate to
have it successful competitive career and went on to skate with Disney on lee and Stars on Ice. I skated professionally
until I was 29 years old and then started focusing on it coaching career. I could never sec myselfaway from the ice and
Frohn my beloved 13racmar itrena.
As a coach, f hive been fortunate to be in Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland at the National Championships and hear,
"representing Eclina, Minnesota and the Braemar City of Likes Figure Skating Club, please welcome .Heidi Pakkala." In
the year 2000, my student competed on the National scene against Michelle Kwan and Sasha Cohen. The years and
dedication it took to get to this place was impressive. Competitive figure skaters put in 10 to 15 hours a ween: on the ice
for years to get to this point, Broemar has had 60 skaters go Nationals as individuals, in pairs and ice dance, Our synchro
letups have had so much success recently winning Nationals 4 of the last 5 years.
If Edina Hockey Association takes it chunk of our ice tirlle then you very well could see an enol to this internationally
recognized club. As professional coaches, our livelihood is based upon a healthy, growing figure skating club. We have
always had au impressive coaching staff because we haven lot to offer in terms of facilities, ice time, and programs. Take
this all away and the coaches will go elsewhere to find what they need to Keep their students competitive and to continue
to make it Iiving at coaching.
I and married and it mother ol'3 boys. Two of my sons are very vested in hockey. I love both of the spores. Edina hockey
has had huge success running their program with hnving to buy ice ret other arenas. 1 don't wnnt them to ruin our program
because they have had so much success. There deeds to be solution for the long term and not something to keep them
happy for this year or ►text.
As the new Lend instructor (Director) for till, skating school and Co- Head Professional, it is my goal to pass on guy love
of skating, both figure skating and hockey, to Edina's youth. Please make this feasible for the future by supporting the
priority aceess for BCI -FSC.
Respectfully,
Kathlecil Schmelz Gazich
July, 31, 2013
Dear Mayor Hovland,
My family moved to Edina about one year ago from upstate New York. Our family has three
children and they are fully engaged in sports and activities. Since our arrival we have made many friends
in the community who share some of our same interests in sports and wholesome activities. The school
system and the variety of sports offered in this connnunity \vas our major attraction to the city of Edina.
As a concerned citizen and a major advocate for both youth figure skating and hockey; I feel compelled to
write to you concerning the July 16, 2013 proposal concerning the Priority Use Policy for Braemar Arcna
that would limit BCLFSC's use of the arena contributing to an inevitable disbtmdntent of such an
awesome club.
The Edina Hockey Association (EHA) and the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
(BCLFSC) greatly contribute to community excellence. I have been able to watch both EHA games and
have also had the opportunity to witness a magnificent performance by the BCLFSC during the Braemar
Ice Show. We have close friends who are fully committed to the BCLFSC and their children all have a
bright future in figure skating. While inside the jam-packed arena during this year's Ice Show we were
able to see the hard work and commitment to success of till of the figure skaters. This grand display of
talent was met with major enthusiasm from a stunned crowd comprised of all walks of life from Edina
and surrounding suburbs. The fact that the club has won over 60 state championships, the Synchro Team
has even %von the Nationals several times, speaks volumes of their commitment to excellence, TO limit the
potential of our friends children to compete on a grand scale and to extinguish the joy that citizens ofthis
great city get from watching their future performances would be a mere tragedy.
After speaking with our dear friends about this m?jor issue, they explained the scarcity of ice in
the city and we both agreed that there is currently not an easy solution. We also could feel the sadness and
the disappointment they were feeling regarding the undetermined future of the BCLFSC. The scarcity of
resources has had a molor effect o» the EHA; however, the proposed policy does little to address the
survivability of the BCLFSC. The overall future of the BCLFSC is Currently at stake in order to
accommodate the immediate needs of the L VIA.
It is crucial that any Priority Use Agreement the City considers takes into aCcount the legacy of
the BCLFSC and the joy that it brings to this fine community. As 1 scanned the crowd during the lee
Show there were lots of smiling faces. As a fairly new resident,. I felt the energy on the ice and in the
stands was representative of the diversity and success -driven ideals that makes up the fabric of this great
comtvunity.
Mayor Hovland, 1 had the opportunity to shake your hand at an Edina Football game last Fall and
I felt that you were a common-sense guy with a genuine interest in furthering the legacy of all sports in
Edina. I would humbly ask that you take a deep look into the goodness of the BCLFSC and make a
concentrated effort in preserving this internationally acclaimed organization that brings so much joy to
this great city—it just make sense.
Thank you for your support
Scott & Noi Jackson
CC;
The Honorable Joni Bennett, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Mary :Brindle, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Josh Sprague, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Ann Swenson, Edina City Council Member
Mr. Scott Neal, Edina City Manager
Ms. Ann Kattreh, Edina Parks and Recreation Director
Deb Mancten
From:
Annie Johnston <anniejohnston24@icloud.com>
Sent;
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:11 PM
To:
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast,net; Mary Brit0le (Comcast); joshsprague@ectinareatty.com; swensonannl
@gmail.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Subject:
Braemar - My Second Home
Annie Johnston
July 30, 2013
4505 Wooddale Avenue
Edina, MN
55424
Dear Mr. Hovland, Ms. Bennett, Ms, Brindle, Mr. Sprague, Ms. Swenson, Mr. Neal, and Ms. Kattreh
"There's my second home." This is the sentence that comes to mind every time I see Braemar Ice
Arena, where I have skated for almost 10 years. However, it wasn't until we had a shortage of ice that I
really started to appreciate how true this statement is. I do belong at Braemar, and it is more than just an
ice rink.
My name is Annie Johnston and I will be a freshman at Breck in the fall. For the past 10 years I
have been a member at the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club (BCLFSC). It is where I skate, it is
my life, it is my home. Skating is, and always will be, more than just a sport. It is a way of life, it is a part of
who I am. I don't figure skate, I am a figure skater. For us, skating isn't something we do, it's how we live,
it's in our blood, and it defines us.
Spending hour after hour, day after day, with the same people really changes you, and affects the
person that you grow to be. Through my sport I have learned life lessons that can't be taught in school.
Perseverance is a major quality that people need to have. It gives us the ability to push past the mistakes
and become better in the future. It is with perseverance that we become stronger and better. There is no
better way to learn how to continue then failing a test four times. In the past year, I have taking the
Juvenile Moves in the Field five times, and it was not until the fifth time that I finally past. Taking these
tests taught me that you can do anything that you set your mind too, and that there is value in continuing
to try.
I also went to every single synchronized skating practice, but I didn't get the chance to skate in the
most important competition of the year, This season really showed me what it will take to continue in the
sport and I found that it is worth it. I love the way that I live, getting up in the summer because apparently
our coaches think that sleep is overrated. It really reminds us that dedication is the key to success, and
that even though the climb might be challenging, in the end it is worth every single piece of it.
Socially, it is hard to be in middle school. It is hard to deal with all the troubles of growing up and
deciding the pei son that You do at id don't want to e. For me, the m c as becorne a sanctuary. was my
place at the rink that got me through all the rough spots in school, it was my place at the rink that kept me
sane. When you are at the rink, nothing else matters, It is the place where you can get away from all the
things that are going wrong and just take a break. Where you know that you have friends who have your
back, and adults that will support you and give you advice. The relationships with I have with my friends
and coaches are not something that you can take for granted. They are not something that I am willing to
give up, because they mean something to me. They are important, and they define me,
When I heard about the shortage of ice I was devastated. I live in Edina, and I skate in Edina, as
part of the Edina community. If we were forced to change rinks or sports, it would change the effect that
the skating community has. It Would not give us all the same experience, It would change my way of life.
Sincerely yours,
Annie Johnston
Deb Manaen
From: Susan Hadjiyanis<shadjiyanis@scalaconsulting.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:37 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennett12@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.corn; swensonannl
@gmaii.com; Scott Neal; Ann Kattreh
Cc: Stella Hadjiyanis; George Hadjiyanis
Subject: PLEASE. SAVE OUR TEAM
July 31, 2013
Dear Honorable Mayor .I-lovland, Honorable City Council Members Bennett, Brindle, ,Swenson, Mr
Neal and ABIs. Kattreh,
My name is Stella Hadjiyanis, and I have been a proud member of Braemar City of Lakes figure
Skating Club for over 7 years. I ant writing to you on behalf of the present issue between .Edina
Hockey Association and .Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club.
I have no words that can adequately describe my love for figure skating. Every time I set foot on
the ice, I feel completely free and confident. Figure Skating has made me who I am, and it has
shaped me as a person, helping me find my peaceful place in the world. After a stressful day at
school, I can skate and forget about all of my worries. The air blowing bast my face and the feeling
when my blades grip the ice provides me with irreplaceable joy. The sensation I feel when I land a
jump or master a difficult element is the best feeling in the world. I would not give up figure
skating for anything.
Skating has taught me several life lessons. It has made me a better person, taught me perseverance,
strength, power, and grace. Skating has boosted my confidence in all aspects of my life.
Along with being an active member of Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club, I am also a
participant of Team Braemar Synchronized Skating. I have participated on the Beginner, Juvenile
and Intermediate Synchronized Skating Teams in the past. I am now on the Novice Team and my
goal .is to someday be on the Junior Team. I ani fortunate to have competed at national levels
during my time at Braemar. I am always excited to cheer on the Junior Team, nicknamed Team
USA for their several wins at nationals and their high placements in competitions worldwide.
As a member of a team, every skater learns the importance of teamwork, responsibility, respect and
.integrity. Each and every skater of Team Braemar is very dedicated and passionate about the sport.
We do not want to lose the ability to continue learning valuable life lessons, fostering lifelong
friendships and participating in the sport that we love. I understand and appreciate the hockey
association's passion for their sport, but I truly hope that they can respect and appreciate all of the
skaters who share Bracmar's ice rinks. On behalf of the skaters at Braemar, I am asking you to
support our program and to .not take away our access to the ice.
Thank you very much for your time.
Sincerely,
Stella Hatljiyaulis
July 31, 2013
Dear Mayor Hovland,
Our family's 3 kids all play hockey in the Edina Hockey Association and figure skate in the
Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club. Braemar Arena and the City outdoor rinks are very
Important City amenities to our family, We are writing concerning the July 16, 2013 proposed
Priority Use Policy for Braemar Arena that would severely limit BCLFSC use of Braemar and
consequently cause the elimination of the Club in Edina.
Both the EHA and BCLFSC contribute to excellence and represent Edina well. The EHA has
filled the South arena chock full of banners - all championship. The BCLFSC has over 60 State
champions and the Synchro team has won Nationals several times and recently placed 3`d on the
world stage, The annual BCLFSC Spring Skate Show you attended is a cultural event that many
Edina residents enjoy. The exceptional BCLFSC professionals have trained countless Edina figure
and hockey skaters as the instructors for the City classes. Both organizations have a magnificent
legacy of representing and serving Edina residents for the 47 year history of Braemar Arena.
The proposed Priority Use Policy does not recognize and value these contributions the
BCLFSC provides our city. In addition, the BCLFSC is a fiscally valuable tenant and good neighbor to
the other tenants of Braemar. The BCLFSC has paid user fees and full rate rental fees for the East
rink they use year round. They have also supported the building of the South rink and last year
committed key financial support to secure the bond for the Hornets Nest that was built to serve the
EHA and EHS hockey teams.
More Ice is needed in Edina. Our kids skate outside of Edina at BIG, Eden Prairie, Richfield,
Chaska, Shakopee, SLP, New Hope, and Minnetonka. And that isjust for figure skating. Hockey is
similar. There simply is not enough ice in Edina. The Hornets Nest provides an additional 800
hours/season of dryland training for the EHA. The proposed 4th rink would provide about 1000
hours/season of additional ice. Thank you for supporting these solutions.
The July 16 proposed policy does very little to help the EHA. A few hundred hours/season
shift Is a drop in the bucket for the EHA's total ice needs. Yet it would be 100% fatal to the BCLFSC.
It would be a severe error for the City to eliminate a long term (47 years) Club that has represented
the City so well in exchange for so very little.
It is essential that any Priority Use Agreement the City considers protects the diversity of
sports in Edina, honors organizations with a long standing legacy of representing and serving Edina,
and promotes future growth and success of Edina as a city of excellence.
Thank you for your support,
Carl & Aundria Schreiner
5264 Lochloy Dr
Edina, MN 55436
CC:
'rhe Honorable Joni Bennett, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Mary Brindle, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Josh Sprague, Edina City Council Member
The Honorable Ann Swenson, Edina City Council Member
Mr. Scott Neal, Edina City Manager
Ms. Ann Kattreh, Edina Parks and Recreation Director
Deb Mannen
From: DeYoung, Mark<Mark.DeYoung@edinascliools.org>
sent; Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:37 PM
To; Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com, swensonannl
@gmail.com
Subject; Braemar Arena
Dear Edina City Council Members,
My name is Mark DeYoung and I am writing in response to the recent article I read in the Sun Current entitled, "Edina
Considers Freezing Out Figure Skaters." As a teacher of 22 years at Countryside Elementary School and former coach of
the Edina Girls Varsity Hockey team, I find it unfortunate the Edina Hockey Association and Figure Skating Club cannot
coexist in the same community. As a former Edina hockey coach, I understand the need for prime time ice time. As a
teacher, I often see students who arrive at school tired and not ready to learn because they were up too late at hockey.
I recognize both organizations are competing for and need the same ice time. However, respected diversity within a
community whether it is in a classroom, hockey team, figure skating club, or neighborhood is what makes a community
healthy. As a teacher, I love having students with a variety of life experiences in my classroom. I fear if the figure
skating club is relegated to a lower priority status it will reduce the number of figure skaters in Edina. More importantly,
the unintended message to the City of Edina and the rest of the metro area is if you play hockey you are valued but if
you don't you will need to go elsewhere. As a counciimember, I would have a difficult time looking into the eyes of 128
young kids and telling them why they no longer can skate at Braemar. I cannot imagine being responsible for creating
one more roadblock for them to overcome in fulfilling their hopes of figure skating. I agree with Mayor Hovland that an
additional sheet of ice is necessary. Just look at Minnesota Made, clearly it wouldn't be there if there wasn't a need.
The City of Edina has created a diverse community that appreciates athletics and the arts. Just look at the high school's
successful theater, band, and athletic programs just to name a few. Edina promotes the arts through the Art Fair, high
school, and having various displays of art scattered throughout the community. Edina is a city which celebrates bikers
with newly installed bike lanes. Edina Parks and Recreation has wonderful summer programs and beautiful parks.
Business and commerce is encouraged In a variety of nodes throughout the city. Please do not let Edina become a
hockey only city, encourage all kids to aspire to whatever they want to be. The motto on the City of Edina's website j
reads, "For living, learning, raising families, and doing business," My hope is the motto doesn't just apply to hockey
players.
Sincerely,
Mark DeYoung
Deb Mangen _
From: Dede Disbrow <dededisbrow@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:46 PM
To: Edina Mail; jonibennetl12@comcasl.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); joshsprague@edinarealty.com; swensonannl
@gmail.com; Scott Neal
Subject: Braemar -City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
Dear Honorable Mayor and City Council Members,
My Name is Dede Dahlberg Disbrow and I have a life long connection to Braemar Arena. I was one of the first
skaters on the ice at Braeniar is December of 1965. My parents were founding members of the figure skating
club and instrumental in bringing the club to Braemar. My partner Lowell Green and I were the first National
competitors out of Braemar. Since then, we've had 58 more National competitors. My first and only
professional job was at the Arena. I grew as amateur and a professional at Braemar. I vas the former director
and head professional for the figure skating club and taught for 30 years. I am currently a technical specialist
for US Figure Skating.
We start all young children on their hands and knees in our classes. Some of them have ended up on the Edina
High School Hockey team and some of them have ended up skating at a National Figure Skating
Clianlpionships. But all the them have been given the love of skating from their first days on the ice. In my
opinion, our staff is so talented that we have drawn skaters from all over the state. Many of the professionals
have been coaching for decades and have immense experience.
I hope that Braemar City of Lakes FSC keeps enough ice to be continue to be competitive nationally. We also
need to keep quality coaches to pass on the love of skating and expertise to future generations of Edina skaters.
Respectfully,
Dede Disbrow
30 year Edina resident
23 Woodland Road U11 re
Edina, MN 55424 Ste.
952-920-6107
August 1, 2013
Mayor James Hovland
Council Members Joni Bennett, Mary Brindle, Josh Sprague and Ann Swenson
Dear Mayor and Council Members
We are writing this letter regarding the ice time issue between the Braemar City of Lakes
Skating Club and the Edina Hockey Association, Our Granddaughter, Addie Christianson is a figure
skater for the Braemar City of Lakes Skating Club and our Grandson, Calvin Christianson is a hockey
player participating in the Edina Hockey Association program.
We have lived in Edina a lifetime and have always been very proud of our City. Edina has earned
an excellent reputation because it offers quality education, recreation activities and facilities, services
and opportunities for all of its citizens. Therefore, we are very disappointed to understand that Edina is
proposing to dishonor its 40 -year commitment to the Braemar Club for its needed ice time. Honoring a
commitment is a principle we stress with our youth. Presumably, as role models, you as our elected
officials and others in positions of influence and decision malting authority should adhere to that
principle.
Because of the nature of figure skating, contracting with neighboring rinks does not work.
Consequently, if the Edina Hockey Association proposal is accepted, the Braemar Club will cease to
exist and Edina figure skaters will no longer be able to skate under the aegis of the Braemar (Edina)
banner. This is not acceptable. The Braemar Club has brought regional, national and international
fame to our community. Furthermore, the Braemar Club has helped finance the ice in summer months,
off hours and areas of its operations outside its needs. It has been very generous financially over the
past forty years. If there is a need for more ice, the city must meet that need. Until then, a commitment
is a commitment.
We have personally seen what being a member of Braemar's Syncro and Freestyle skating does
for a youth's confidence, work ethic, self esteem and team camaraderie. Lei's continue to promote
strong youth programs rather than eliminate them. That is NOT who we are.
Thankyou for your attention to this matter and your services to our city.
Sincerely,
l
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Janet and Bob Christianson
Cc; Mr. Scott Neal and Ms. Anne Kattreh
Deb Mang en
From: Rachel Goetzmann <rachelgoetzmann@gmail,rom>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 201311;27 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: BremarIce time
I hope the council is also considering the impact that traveling to other arenas have on school, family and work
schedules.I believe this inconvenience also affects our test scores for kids since they deed to spend so much
tinge traveling to other cities when we have ice right here.
This whole setup is absolutely ridiculotts! .My son was a Peewee andy playing on a C team last year. We
practiced 5-6 clays a week and only 1-2 clays were at Brernar. The remainder were all over, but the fact that we
had to drive 2 times per week to Augsburg or UMN is ridiculous. It consumes about 3 hours per evening :For I
practice for 1 child. Please keep the Edina kids a priority!!!!
Rachel Goetzmann
651-245-5786
beb Mangen
From: RONALD G KAREN N GREEN <green123459@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:05 Aril
To: Edina Mail
Cc green123459@msn.com
Subject; EHA Response to Braemar Priority Use Agreement
Attachments: EHA - Braemar Priority Use Agreement - FINAL.pdf
To: The Honorable James Hovland, Mayor of Edina
From: Ron Green, Edina Hockey Association President, contact #: 612,669,2362
Good morning, I have reviewed the final City Staff recommendation last night and submit the following
response from the EHA. I'm also attaching a support document for your review.
EHA Response
Tile EHA supports the City Staff's recommendations but feels a 4 -year transition is simply not necessary. We
have offered the services of our ice scheduler, at no cost, to the BCLFSC to replace any hours lost at Braemar
with hours at other area arenas. The EHA does support a 3 -year transition plan with 582 hours this season,
450 hours next season and 241 hours the final season of the transition.
EHA Desired Outcome
The EHA is seeking a more equitable balance/fair allocation of Braemar ice times - only during prime season -
between BCLFSC and the EHA in terms of ice slot days and times, primarily based on Edina resident
participants but also factoring in the historical community importance of both organizations.
• Both organizations are important to Edina —the EHA does support the BCLFSC.
• Both organizations desire prime ice times but, during prime season as a Priority #3 user, the ENA should
have priority to fulfill its ice needs before the BCLFSC, a Priority #4 user.
• Both organizations should share the inconvenience of skating at other- arenas
• Edina resident participants should be treated equitably.
• EHA would use extra hours at Braemar to reduce the inconvenience for its younger girls and boys (6U,
8U, 10U, Mites, Squirts) so they can have more of a home -ice experience.
• EHA.also would combine this ice time with dryland training at the Velocity Training Center allowing our
resident players and families to spend more time at Braemar thus also supporting the concession stand
and General Sports,
Consider the following:
- There is a sizable inequality in ice time per Edina resident and per participant
Per Participant Per Participant Per Edina Resident
BCLFSC EHA BCLFSC EHA BCLFSC EHA
11.5 1.6 5.4 1.6 10.9 1.6
EHA has limited access to prime time hours during prime season due to priority use/time slots for Edina High School
Boys and Girls Varsity and JV teams (4 teams on 2 rinks from 3:45-6/7 p.m. Monday - Friday) and the BCLFSC on one of
the rinks (currently has priority over EHA).
- EHA resident families have the inconvenience of driving to multiple arenas around town.
- BCLFSC's participant families/non-Edina residents have very little inconvenience of driving to other arenas.
- The BCLFSC's hours are prime time each day on the East rink with no Friday, Saturday or Sunday night time slots.
- United States Figure Skating (USFS) and BCLFSC have both confirmed there are no minimum ice time
requirements at one arena for a Club to have it be their "home' arena.
- BCLFSC is a Club, with paid instructors, and the kids follow the coach.
Coaches can work at other arenas. With blocks of ice time, this should not alter the ability of a coach to train
skaters.
Other professional skating coaches conduct training/coaching sessions in blocks of time on various arenas each
day. Two examples: Karn Skating Dynamics, Pro[dge Power with Diane Ness and team
The BCLFSC strongly believes that having ice time at any other rink is unacceptable and will mean the end of
the Club, We strongly disagree. Last season, the EHA purchased about 2,100 hours at Braemar and 2,000
hours at other arenas. in addition, parents purchased additional ice once the teams were picked to
supplement what the EHA provides (we estimate 500-750 hours). Bottom line: Ice is available. And it's
available in similar time blocks at other arenas. Both the City and EHA have offered to assist the Club with
getting ice time that closely matches any hours they would lose at Braemar thus minimizing any practice
plans. The only thing that would change would be the location. We strongly believe the Club can survive and
even thrive by modifying their model, one that offers its members ice tirnes at alternative arenas, some that
may even be closer to some of its member families.
Please contact me if you have any questions or would like to discuss any of this.
Regards,
Ron
Ron Green
EHA President
A more equitable balance of Braemar ice 'Limes - only during prime
season - between Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
(BCLFSC) and the Edina Hockey Association (EHA) in terms of ice
slot days and times, primarily based on Edina resident
participants but also factoring in the historical community
importance of both organizations.
Both organizations are important to Edina
Both organizations desire prime ice times
Both organizations should share the inconvenience of skating
at other arenas
Edina resident participants should be treated equitably
® Sizable inequality in ice time per Edina resident and per participant
Per Participant Per Participant Per Edina Resident
BCLFSC EHA BCLFSC EHA BCLFSC EHA
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priority use/time slots for Edina High School Boys and Girls Varsity and JV
teams (4 teams on 2 rinks from 3:45-6/7 p.m. Monday - Friday) and the
BCLFSC on one of the rinks (currently has priority over EHA).
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EHA resident families have the inconvenience of driving to multiple arenas
around town.
.j BCLFSC's participant families/non-Edina residents have very little
inconvenience of driving to other arenas.
.� The BCLFSC's hours are prime time each day on the East rink with no Friday,
Saturday or Sunday night time slots. -
Club Hours
.A Monday — Friday: 3 - 6:50 p.m.
.® Saturdays: 7:30 —10:20 a.m.
Sundays: 10:30 —11:30 a.m.
Synchronized Skating
Mondays: 7 —10 p.m.
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EHA average ice allocation is 2,100 hours Oct. 1 -March 15.
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® EHA seeks a fair allocation of ice and for the BCLFSC to share some
inconvenience of skating at other area arenas, only during the prime season of
Oct — March, based on participants or Edina residency.
,e During prime season, the EHA should have priority to fulfill its ice needs before
the BCLFSC.
A EHA supports a 3 -year transition period.
.A EHA would assist BCLFSC in replacing any hours lost at Braemar with hours
at other area arenas. EHA will provide its professional ice procurement
resources to the BCLFSC, at no cost, to secure ice time at other area arenas.
® EHA would use those Braemar hours to reduce the inconvenience for its
younger girls and boys (6U, SU, 1 OU, Mites, Squirts) so they can have more of
a home -ice experience.
.A EHA also would combine this ice time with dryland training at the Velocity
Training Center allowing our resident players and families to spend more time
at Braemar thus also supporting the concession stand and General Sports.
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the city of Edina.
� This 3 -rink facility operates without a priority use agreement with its users (all
other Edina recreational facilities have established priority use agreements).
® City -sponsored activities have first priority all year and the 4 Edina High School
hockey teams (boys and girls varsity and J1) have priority/prime times during
prime season on two of the rinks (West and South).
.A Edina Hockey Association (EHA) purchases ice from Braemar only during prime
season Oct 1 — March 15 (2,100 hours).
.A Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club (BCLFSC) purchases ice from
Braemar year-round (1,500 hours). 800 of those hours — or 53.3% - are non -
hockey season hours (non -prime season). Reducing their 700 prime season
hours will still leave the Club with a significant percentage of ice time at Braemar.
United States Figure Skating (USFS) and BCLFSC have both confirmed there are
no minimum ice time requirements at one arena for a Club to have it be their
"home" arena. Moving some ice time to other arenas will not affect the BCLFSC
status with USFS.
BCLFSC is a Club, with paid instructors, and the kids follow the coach.
.A Coaches can work at other arenas. With blocks of ice time, this should not
alter the ability of a coach to train skaters.
® Other professional skating coaches conduct training/coaching sessions in
blocks of time on various arenas each day. Two examples:
® Karn Skating Dynamics (see next slide)
ProEdge Power with Diane Ness
Question: Does the City of Edina prefer to give priority access to a Club with
60 Edina residents, whose paid coaches are independent contractors, or an
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Edina Hockey Association Fact Sheet
Established 1957. Celebrating 56t" year during 2013-14 season.
All volunteer association (Board members, coaches).
Largest youth hockey association in the U.S.A. 1,316 participants in 2012-13
season. 99.2% Edina residents (live or attend school in Edina).
.A 83 teams - 344 girls, 972 boys.
3 national titles, 51 state championships.
EHA significantly enhances the "Edina" brand.
® Feeder program for Edina High School Boys and Girls Hockey programs (both
Varsity and Junior Varsity —11 state championships), several private high
school hockey programs, USA Hockey National Team Development Program
in Ann Arbor, MI and junior programs in US and Canada.
,A Multiple former players have been drafted by National Hockey League (NHL)
teams.
t:HA Ice Purchases 2012-13 Season
EHA from Braemar
EHA from other arenas
2,057
2,093
EHA Parents/Teams from other arenas 500-750
Total:
Braemar Arena meets 42-45% of EHA's needs
Note: Excludes outdoor ice and dryland training
HA 2012-13 Ice
-Purchases
Arena
List
® Breck
® Bloomington
® Eden Prairie
j Hat Trick -small rink
Minnehaha
® Minnesota Made
® Richfield
Note: Parents/teams purchase addi
that meet their needs.
lee Availability
EHA employs the professional services of an Ice Scheduler and will assist BCLFSC
with securing ice time at other arenas between now and the end of Aug. 2014. The
ENA will provide the use of this professional service to the BCLFSC at no cost.
Sample Availability This Season
Richfield — multiple time blocks available; closely match BCLFSC's current hours
A Dakotah, Prior Lake: Oct 1 — March 15, 6:50-8:50 a.m. Sat and Sun. Does not
have figure skating club.
Hopkins Pavilion — has ice available — provided copy to BCLFSC. Does not have
figure skating club.
Parade Minneapolis: Sat. 10/12 6:15 —10 p.m.; Sun. 10/13 7:15 —10 p.m.; Sat.
10/19 5 —10 p.m.; Sun. 10/20 8 —11:30 a.m.; Sat. 10/26 7:30 —10 p.m.; Sun.
11/3 7 —10:15 a.m. Has a figure skating club and skating academy.
A Polar Arena North St. Paul — has ice available. Does not have figure skating
club.
Burnsville — 5 a.m. - 2 p.m. M -F for $95 an hour. Does have a figure skating
club.
TEAM NAME
Girls Mites 6U
bad ice times
Girls 12U B Green
We had a gre
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Girls 14U B
practice time
Bos 1 st year Mites
Great coach.
Boys 1st year Mites
he wanted me
Bos 1st year Mites
Coaches were
Bo)Ls Upper Mites
It seemed like
training rinks.
Boys Upper Mites
Ice time locati
Boys Upper Mites
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braemar
Boys Squirt A White Istarts
The coaching
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Team Name
Response
Girls 12U B White
More ice time. Offer friend requests for b teams
Girls 19U B
Schedule our practices not so late. Give all the super late ones to Junior Gold
or U16
Boys Upper Mites
Nicer jerseys. No practices at velocity or hat trick.
Boys Upper Mites
Iwant to play at Braemar more
Boys Upper Mites
INo practices when I need to go to bed.
Boys Squirt C White
lice closer to home
Bos Peewee B1
More ice time.
Bos Peewee B2 Green
Having earlier practices and not very late ones around 9 or 10 pm on school
nights because we have to wake up so early.
Boys Bantam B1
More ice time
Bos Bantam B2 White
Less friday practices
Deb Manaen
From;
Tim Sipprell <tsipprell@gmail.com>
Sent:
Friday; August 02, 201311;48 AM
To:
Aim Kattreh
Cc:
Edina Mail; jonibennettl2@comcast.net; Mary Brindle (Comcast); Josh Sprague; swensonannl@gmaii.com; Scott
Neal; akattreh@edinamn.com
Subject:
Re: ice allocation
Hello esteemed city leaders. I know that the ice allocation debate is still going on, and I want to reiterate nny
concerns as a hockey parent and resident. I very much appreciated councilman Sprague's quotes in the Sun last
week --the playing field is tilted in favor of a small group of figure skaters and has been for a long time now. It's
time for that to change. I have heard there is some discussion about a grace period - the .figure skaters want 4
years :for this to gradually roil back. Blows my mind. By now we all know the discrepancy in the numbers of
participants. I can't tell you how many practices we had last year at Mariucci or Ridder Arena for our Squirt B
teann. And tile), were usually in the 5-630pnn window, battling city rush hour. We hardly ever get to practice at
Bmenlar, and viten Ave do it's almost always ice time shared with another team.
That brings up another point --why is it that hockey coaches can figure out ways to design great practices with 2
teams on the ice, and still develop kids that are good enough to win state titles, yet it seems like every tinge I
look out and see a figure skating session going o►1 i can count on one hand leo\,,, many skaters are on the ice?
Maybe cutting back the figure skaters' prime ice time will finally force them to bring some innovation to their
training sessions like forced us to do years ago as the association grew,
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Tint Sihprell <tsipprell ci) =mail.com> wrote:
I am disappointed to learn that your department's ice allocation recommendation seems to disproportionately
favor 51 resident figure skaters vs 1300+ resident hockey players. I'm sure it is difficult to be a figure slater in a
community that boasts the largest youth hockey association in the country.... but the is the LARGEST YOUTH
HOCKEY ASSOCIATION IN TIIE COUNTRY, and serves 26 resident hockey players for every figure
skater.
Honestly I'd think the figure skaters would feel lucky to get any half decent ice time at all under such a
circumstance, How they even get 700 hours to Edina Hockey's 2,000 is perplexing to me. To take it to a level
where the figure skaters are getting to fill all their ice needs before the EHA gets any ice would be outrageous. I
urge all addressed and copied oil this email to consider the resident participation ratio here is 26:1. 26 hockey
players for every figure skater. This is .not complicated math. The E'FIA should not be in it situation \vllere they
are defending their current position in the pecking order --they should be getting MORE ice time. In addition,
the EHA is the feeder program to the IIIgh School team. If the high school team is truly a priority in this
equation, that must be taken into consideration as well. I have nothing against figure skating, I think all sports
area huge part of developing great kids. This isn't (about figure skating, it's about common sense, If there were
5 kids who wanted to cio javelin, you Avouldn't give them 30% of the tinge ►available at Kuhlman Field that
currently is used by LaCrosse leagues, And we're not talking about trumping LaCrosse ... we're talking about
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From: Jon Foust <jfoust@roxcap,com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:48 AM
To: Edina Mail
Subject: FW: Item VIIi A Priority Use Policy Braemar Arena v2,docx
Attachments: Item VJII A Priority Use Policy Braemar Arena v2.docx, City Ally letter RE BCLFSC resolution.pdf
The Honorable James Hovland,
I apologize for the lengthy email, but I believe it will be worth your time to read and consider.
Over the last few weeks, I have been involved in trying to create a solution to the pending Priority Use Policy at Braemar
Arena. My involvement in the process is a result of being on the board of the Hornet's Nest and my volunteer role on
the Edina Hockey Association Board which concluded in April 2013. 1 was involved in all three meetings that took place
between Staff, the EHA and the Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club. During the 7+ hours of discussion I learned a
lot about the situation and have a firm grasp on the facts, Not all of the facts have been shared with City Council, the
Mayor or the Press. It is hard for me to believe that "the facts" may not drive a decision, but the organization or people
that are most effective at lobbying their cause.
I was initially encouraged by Brian Hedberg, President BCLFSC, when he mentioned that our meetings should be about
"balance of opportunity and balance at the facility, because in the end this is about the kids". As conversations have
broken down, I asked Brian and I ask you, where is the balance for the 1316 participants in the EHA? As you know,
during the prime season, the EHA has no access to Braemar Ice Arena Monday through Friday until 7:00 pm due to the
Boys/Girls Nigh School teams and the BCLFSC. The result of this structure leads our teams to play early in the morning,
late at night, at rinks all over the Twin Cities, which can and does cause problems for working families, families that have
multiple kids playing on different teams and our volunteer coaches. The current allocation of ice and the time of those
ice slots creates a lot of inconvenience for EHA families. To this point in time, all of the inconvenience has been shoulder
by hockey families and none of it has affected the BCI_FSC.
The Facts
- Braemar ice Arena is not profitable and its operating losses are subsidized by the City of Edina.
- The City Council has mandated City Staff to draft a priority use policy.
The BCLFSC resolution on a user fee is not a 20 year agreement or contract for ice time. Attached is the City
Attorney's opinion.
- The EHA resolution to support the Hornet's Nest was contingent upon an executed Priority Use Policy at
Braemar Ice Arena.
The BCLFSC and the Synchronized Skating teams do not have a minimum requirement from Unites States Figure
Skating to maintain Braemar as their home rink. I specifically asked this question at the first meeting to
guarantee that whatever we resolved did not affect the BCLFSC. At that point Brian was not sure, but prior to
our second meeting he talked to representatives and confirmed that no minimum exists. Any other statement
they make regarding this issue are untrue.
- No one is dictating the number of hours of ice the BCLFSC can purchase. The only thing being consider is their
monopoly on the best ice slots during "prime" season.
- The BCI.FSC is it C.onsortiurn of paid coaches. The skaters hire the coach and follow them from club to club if
they were to change affiliations. The BCLFSC is an organization that exists to support the paid coaches through
buying ice time, coordinating competitions and dealing with paperwork. The club exists to support the most
elite athletes. The skaters loyalty resides with their coach, not the club. This was communicated by Lon!
Keenan, one of the coaches that attended all of the meetings.
- The EHA is a volunteer organization that provides any Edina resident or student an opportunity to play hockey
regardless of their level of skill or their financial capabilities.
- The BCLFSC has challenges to effectively schedule their ice. Their challenges are different than EHA, but not
greater or less than the choices fared by the hockey community.
- BCLFSC has 130 members and buys 700 hours of the best ice times during the "prime season". Approximately
5.4 hours per participant.
- The EHA has more than 1300 (350 girls and 950 boys) members and buys 2000 hours of ice during the "prime
season Many of those hours are late at night. Approximately 1.5 hours per participant.
- The BCLFSC has competition from other clubs
- The EHA has competition from for-profit organizations like Minnesota Made, Breakaway Hockey and Norther
Educate
Solutions Discussed and Rejected by BCLFSC - any or all of them are viable and they take into account the stated
"complexities" of figure skating
The BCLFSC could skate one morning per week.
The BCLFSC could skate one or two days per, week at another rink. There would be no difference in their
scheduling, coaches routine or home arena status if they skated at Richfield on Tuesday's from 3-7 pm instead
the exact same time at Braemar.
The BCLFSC could skate one evening per week. Why do they need to skate from 3 7 pm? Can they skate from
7:30 to 10:30 pm? The EHA has a younger participant population.
As you read the Staff recommendation, you will note that nowhere in the document do they implement a policy based
on residency. Are there any other priority use policy's that treat non -Edina organizations better than a resident
association? In fact, the Staff recommendation does not even get the two organizations to participation parity until year
A. Throughout the transition, the Staff recommendation continues to treat the BCLFSC significantly better than the EHA
by allocating more ice time and more convenient ice time slots than their participation rates would indicate. If the EHA
had one request, I am sure they would like to alter the transition period to 3 years. In fact, the EHA has offered
resources and experience in an attempt to help the BCLFSC contract for ice at another rink and would have no problem
getting the transition completed in year 2. Unfortunately the figure skaters are not willing to address reality and only
want an agreement that maintains the status quo. I will ask you as I have asked Brian, "where is the balance in
opportunity or in the facility for the EHA kids in that scenario"? The BCLI'SC has chosen to create a story that their club
will cease to exist If any of this happens. It is based on misinformation, emotion, lobbying and unwillingness to look at
the situation as an opportunity to improve the service to their members. As we all know, the BCLFSC membership is
from all over the Twin Cities and has members that drive a significant distance to practice at Braemar. What if the
BCLFSC did an analysis and found a rink that was actually more convenient to a majority of their members. If they
skated at that rink once or twice per week, It may actually be a benefit to those skaters and their families. For every,
problem there is a solution, so I do not buy into the BCLFSC argument that any change will adversely affect the
Club. Both organizations have challenges that need to be embraced and solved in a creative manner to ensure their
success. There needs to be shared sacrifice in solving the current dilemma.
The EHA has been an integral part of the community for decades. Believe it or not, it is one of the many reasons families
choose to move to Edina. We are a volunteer run, community association that allows anyone to participate regardless
of skill or financial resources. I truly hope that you and the rest of the City Council will be making a decision that is based
on what is best for the community, its residents and the facts. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me
or speak to Scott, Ann or Susie about the content and dynamics of the 7+. hours of meetings that were held to try to
resolve the current issue.
Jon R Foust
612-325-7237
From: Scott Neal [mailto:sneal@EdinaMN.gov)
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 5:11 PM
To: Brian Hedberg (bhedberg@readycreditcorp.com); Jon Foust; Green, Ron (Ron.Gi,een@ecolab.com)
Subject: Item VIII A Priority Use Policy Braemar Arena v2.docx
Gentlemen —
This is the staff report for the Braemar Arena Priority Use Policy. I have also attached the referenced letter from the City
Attorney.
Scott
To: Park Board
From: Ann Kattreh
Parks and Recreation Director
Date: August 13, 2013
Subject: Veteran's Memorial Committee Minutes, April 19, 2013
Action Requested:
No action is necessary.
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Information
Attached are the minutes from the Veteran's Memorial Committee, April 19, 2013.
City of Edina • 4801 W. 50th St. • Edina, MN 55424
MINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE
HELD AT CITY HALL
APRIL 19, 2013
7:30 AM
L CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Goergen called the meeting to order at 7:30 a.m.
ll. ROLLCALL
Answering roll call were Members Benson, Christiaansen, Kieffer, Kojetin, Lonsbury,
Olson, Reed, Schwartz and Goergen.
Guests: John Keprics, Dick Crockett, and Denny Schulstad
Ill. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Motion by Member Lonsbury and seconded by Member Reed to approve the
meeting agenda, as presented.
Ayes: Benson, Christiaansen, Kieffer, Kojetin, Lonsbury, Olson, Reed, Schwartz and
Goergen. Motion carried.
IV. ADOPTION OF CONSENT AGENDA
Motion by Member Lonsbury and seconded by Member Reed to approve the
Consent Agenda as follows:
A. Approval of the March 15, 2013 Veterans Memorial Committee Meeting
Minutes.
Ayes: Benson, Christiaansen, Kieffer, Kojetin, Lonsbury, Olson, Reed, Schwartz and
Goergen. Motion carried.
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
There were no members of the general public present at the meeting.
VI. STANDING COMMITTEE REPORT
A. FUNDRAISING REPORT
Member Olson noted that he compiled a list of the possible donor names and has
submit that information to Ms. Aarsvold, which has been distributed to the Committee.
Member Benson noted that he had spoken with two potential donors and provided an
update.
Member Olson commented on the testimony, which was given at the Senate hearing
the previous week.
The Committee recognized a verbal donation that has been pledged, contingent upon
the Committee obtaining the remaining necessary funds. It was noted that the
Committee should attempt to pain a written pledge from that donor.
Mr. Keprios noted that someone had volunteered to host a donation event at his home
in the future.
Member Olson stated that he spoke with Cardarelle and he had not yet spoken with
Kraus Anderson.
Chairman Goergen stated that on April 30th there will be a large gathering of
contractors at Target Field and advised that Member Cardarelle plans to attend that
event in attempt to reach out to multiple vendors.
Member Lonsbury stated that the costs have never been broken down by components
in order to provide actual information to vendors that could provide in-kind services.
He stated that the fundamental problem is that the Committee feels that they need to
raise the money to pay someone in order to move forward. He stated that has held the
group back for three years.
Mr. Keprios noted that there are not specifications and construction drawings. He
confirmed that Member Cardarelle is going to approach Kraus Anderson in order to
determine if they could donate those services in-kind.
Member Kojetin confirmed that the cost for the architect to complete the plans and
specifications would be another $38,000 and he is not willing to donate those services.
Chairman Goergen provided an update on the recent meeting with Mayor Hovland and
City Manager and noted that Mayor Hovland will approach the Council in attempt to
provide a loan to the Committee to pay the architect.
Member Kojetin stated that he will see Mayor Hovland and City Manager tonight and
will bring up the issue as well.
Mr. Keprios stated that they did not actually ask Mayor Hovland and City Manager for
the money, they volunteered the option and were aware that the Committee may not
be able to pay the loan back.
Denny Schulstad provided additional information to the Committee on fundraising
efforts and methods.
Dick Crockett left the meeting at 8:00 a.m.
Chairman Goergen stated that there have been some issues with the donation pledge
from the Rotary. He stated that the Committee learned from a third party that the grant
would be contingent upon the remaining funds being raised. He noted that he sent an
email in response to the Rotary towards the end of March and did not receive a
response.
Member Reed confirmed that the actual amount that the Committee has in the account.
Chairman Goergen confirmed that the Committee will continue to work on the master
list.
Member Olson reminded Committee Members to inform Ms. Aarsvold when contact
has been made so that another Member does not reach out to that same person.
Denny Schulstad stated that the best way to build momentum is to start the project. He
explained that it is hard for people to pledge money if they are not sure the project will
actually happen. He then exited the meeting at 8:12 a.m.
Vll. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
A. MEETING ON APRIL 4T" WITH SCOTT NEAL AND MAYOR HOVLAND
Scott Neal arrived at 8:12 a.m.
Scott Neal noted that the first Council meeting in May has a full agenda and believed
the second meeting on May 21 st would be a better time to present the idea to the
Council. He stated that in previous projects similar to this that he has worked on in
other cities he has found that tradesman will want to contribute with in-kind services
rather than cash. He explained that the best method to present that to a contractor is
to have the plans, as without plans confusion can occur. He believed that it would be
best to pay for the plans so that the Committee will own the plans. He believed that
would be the best approach to the Council, to ask for assistance in funding the cost for
the plans. He stated that it is not unusual for the City to pay for the plans for things
within City parks. He stated that he and Mayor Hovland are willing to put their names
behind a recommendation to fund the cost of the plans.
Chairman Goergen questioned if the Committee should then proceed with Bob Cost for
the creation of the plans or go outside of Cost and approach Kraus Anderson.
Member Christiaansen stated that he believes that a group such as Kraus Anderson
would be a better fit.
Scott Neal stated that cities are not allowed to do design build projects and provided
additional information. He stated that if the Council approves the action he could
speak with the City Attorney in order to obtain additional clarification.
Member Lonsbury stated that the question is whether there would be an advantage to
shop the construction drawings to other firms or to simply go with Bob Cost.
Member Christiaansen noted that the Committee was selective in the past with the
decision that SCH would do the design and advised that if another firm was chosen
that could change the plans. He noted that the cost would not only include the
drawings but would also include oversight through the construction process. He stated
that the cost could be restructured as to whether the construction management
services are needed or simply the drawings.
Member Reed stated that it would be to the advantage of the Committee to determine if
Bob Cost could reduce his cost for simply developing the plans.
Member Kojetin stated that he would speak with Member Cardarelle tonight in regard
to Kraus Anderson.
Member Lonsbury stated that the next step would be to go to the Council to ask for the
loan. He stated that if the Council approves that request the Committee could then go
to Bob Cost and Kraus Anderson to determine the costs for construction drawings.
Mr. Keprios believed that the Committee should make contact with Bob Cost to
determine his actual cost since time has passed since the original bid was given.
Motion by Member Kojetin and seconded by Member Schwartz to direct staff to
contact Bob Cost to confirm the current cost to develop the construction
drawings and plans.
Ayes: Benson, Christiaansen, Kieffer, Kojetin, Olson, Reed, Schwartz and Goergen.
Nay: Lonsbury. Motion carried.
Scott Neal stated that in his experience with similar projects that he worked on in other
cities the process has not been shock and aw and is instead built on a slower scale.
Scott Neal and Member Olson left the meeting at 8:47 a.m
V/l. STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS
A. MARKETING/COMMUNITY RELATIONS
Member Schwartz stated that he would be speaking to the Historical Society at 2:30
p.m. on this coming Sunday.
B. RESEARCH (KIAs) REPORT
No report.
C. DESIGN/ARCHITECTURE REPORT
Member Reed stated that he has not been satisfied with the attitude of the artist. He
stated that the cost of copper continues to rise and explained that copper is used in
bronze. He advised that he has an artist friend that does sculpting and she uses a
family run foundry out of Osceola, Wisconsin who specializes in eagles. He noted that
he has talked to the business and they would be more than happy to talk to the
Committee and provide a cost estimate. He stated that he would be willing to go there
and provide some ideas and rough dimensions as the business would like to work with
the Committee. He recommended that the Committee explore that option.
Member Benson believed that was a good idea and stated that he would go with
Member Reed to the business.
Mr. Keprios confirmed that the artist does not have a contract with the artist but noted
that the artist has completed the small replica. He confirmed that the item is complete
but the Committee does not yet have it. He was unsure of the usual process as he
believed the artist would have to take the smaller version to the foundry.
Member Kojetin believed that the Committee should have that item since it has been
paid for.
Members Reed and Benson confirmed that they would visit the foundry in Osceola to
gather additional information.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 8:57 a.m.