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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-04-12 Park Board PacketsEDINA PARK BOARD TUESDAY, APRIL 12, 2005 7:00 P.M. COMMUNITY ROOM EDINA CITY HALL AGENDA * 1. Approval of March 8, 2005, Park Board Minutes. *2. Off -Leash Dog Park Proposal. *3. Lewis Park Hockey Rink Proposal. 4. Park Board Community Involvement Projects. • 5. Future Agenda Items Master Plan. A. Bredesen Park Needs. B. Basketball Court at Lewis Park. C. Walking Paths and Sidewalks. D. Edina Conservation League Presentation. 6. Updates. A. Kojetin Park Playground Equipment. B. Gymnasiums Proposal. C. Grandview Square Park Development 7. Other. * 8. Adj ournment. *These are agenda items that require or request Park Board action. City Hall 4801 WEST 50TH STREET EDINA, MINNESOTA, 55424-1394 Park and Recreation Department www.cityofedina.com City of Edina 952-826-0367 FAX 952-826-0385 TTY 952-826-0379 Memo To: Edina Park Board. From: John Keprios, Director Edina Park and Recreation Department Date: April 6, 2005 Re: TUESDAY, APRIL 12, 2005, PARK BOARD MEETING STAFF REPORT. Enclosed you should find the following items: 1. Tuesday, April 12, 2005, Park Board Agenda. 2. Tuesday, March 8, 2005, Park Board Minutes. 3. Off -Leash Dog Area Feasibility Study. 4. Email from Timothy Hunter. 5. April 26, 2001, Report/Recommendation to City Council — Off -Leash Dog Parks. 6. Town and Country Fence fencing estimate. 7. St. Louis Park Off -Leash Dog Park publication. 8. Results of Park Board Community Involvement Projects. The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with the exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the agenda for other information items (not requiring formal action), last minute items that may come up between now and the Park Board meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board members and/or attendees. PARK BOARD MEETING IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM EDINA CITY HALL 4801 WEST 50TH STREET The Tuesday, April 12, 2005, Park Board meeting will be at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room at Edina City Hall. If you are unable to attend, please call either Office Coordinator, Janet Canton, at 952-826-0435 or me at 952-826-0430. OFF -LEASH DOG PARK PROPOSAL As you will notice in the enclosed Off -Leash Dog Area Feasibility Study done in 2001, there were four less than ideal locations in the park system to consider as off -leash dog park sites. The Van Valkenburg Park site was the smallest site identified in the study; however, it has existing parking, requires no displacement of existing activities, has some existing fencing in place, has good accessibility, and would require the least amount of fencing to make it a suitable site. • For the past five years, we have pursued the option of partnering with the Minneapolis Park Board and St. Louis Park to establish an off -leash dog park at the 40th and France Avenue South site, which is owned by the Minneapolis Water Works Department. I have recently learned that the Minneapolis Water Works Department has been studying its land needs this past year and will make a decision as to the long-range plan for their property at 401h and France this summer. They will finally decide whether to hold onto it or possibly sell the property. In either case, I have been promised that they will keep me informed. In the meantime, I believe we may have a wonderful opportunity to develop and offer an off -leash dog park with donated dollars. Our Animal Control Officer, Timothy Hunter, has informed me that he has an anonymous donor Edina resident who may be willing to cover the cost of the fencing needed for Van Valkenburg Park. As shown in the enclosed email from Mr. Hunter, there are 1,574 known households with dogs, and 1,765 registered dogs in the city, 549 of which are in the northwest quadrant. Also enclosed in this mailing is a copy of St. Louis Park's off -leash dog park information placed in their Park and Recreation winter publication. Their Park Director tells me that their interim off -leash dog park site has been a huge success. They have sold 133 permits and have had very few problems with owners not complying with the posted rules. It is my recommendation that the Park Board approve the Van Valkenburg Park site identified by our consultant as an off -leash dog park interim site. I suggest that it be identified as an interim site because I view this as a pilot project to be evaluated at the end of each year (for the first one -three years) and assess whether or not the location and process works safely and effectively. My recommendation is to make this contingent upon financial participation of the anonymous donor. Vince Cockriel secured a quote from Town and Country Fence for purchase and installation of 1,010 linear feet of galvanized fencing with 3 gates for $10,225.00. This would be 48" high fencing that would secure the entire perimeter of the unfenced area. The fencing would match existing fencing in place to the north and east at Van Valkenburg Park. It is also my recommendation that we charge a $25 permit fee for use of the dog park, which in my view should be for residents only for the first year. After one year of use, we can assess whether there would be room to allow for non-resident permits. We would post rules that permits are required to use the facility and that dog owners must immediately pick up and properly dispose of their dog's feces. Rules would also state that no person may bring into the off -leash dog area site: A) A dangerous dog. B) A female dog in heat. C) More than three dogs at one time. D) A dog that is not wearing tags showing that it is currently registered and vaccinated in compliance with City Code. Additional rules would be added as per the Animal Control Officer's recommendations. 2 It is staff's recommendation to approve Van Valkenburg Park as an interim off -leash dog park site on the condition that the dollars for the fencing are donated. In addition, staff recommends a resident only trial fee of $25.00 per year. Animal Control Officer Timothy Hunter and Park Maintenance Superintendent Vince Cockriel will be in attendance at the Park Board meeting. Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. LEWIS PARK HOCKEY RINK PROPOSAL At the March Park Board meeting, a motion was passed to consider placing an outdoor hockey rink at Todd Park and to solicit neighborhood input on the proposal. The Park Board agreed with staff's recommendation to eliminate the outdoor hockey rink at Countryside Park for the 2005-2006 skating season. In addition, the Park Board asked staff to meet with representatives from the Edina Hockey Association to discuss the concept of developing a fourth indoor hockey rink. In late March, Braemar Arena Manager Larry Thayer and I met with Park Board Member and Pee Wee A Coach Jeff Johnson, the current President of EHA Mike Wagner, the past President of EHA Tom Hatch, and EHA's indoor ice coordinator Steve Helgren. EHA claims that they purchased an additional 300 hours of indoor ice time for the 2004-2005 hockey season, most of which were weekend ice hours. There is a large demand for additional indoor practice ice for primarily the youngest hockey players, Mite age and younger. There appears to be a desire to have a practice hockey rink facility that has reliable quality ice that is somewhat protected by the sun and falling snow. There is a desire to have this practice facility maintained by an ice resurfacing machine, such as a Zamboni. It was agreed that locating a fourth sheet of indoor ice at the Braemar Arena complex would be challenging because it would likely be cost prohibitive due to elevation challenges and would have a significantly negative impact on the character of the park. Parking could also become a challenging issue at that location. The concept that seemed most appealing to this small committee was to place a second hockey rink at Lewis Park, put a cover over it, and maintain the ice with Braemar Arena's spare propane powered Zamboni, which would be stored onsite at Lewis Park. There was also a desire to research the cost to purchase and install an artificial refrigeration system. As proposed in my March Park Board Staff Report, a covered hockey rink at Lewis Park could be designed in such a way to serve as a large picnic shelter during the summer months, which could be reserved and serve as another source of revenue. The hockey rink dasher boards would be removed and stored at the end of the hockey season. Picnic tables would be delivered to the site, which could serve: • Those who use the newly renovated athletic fields. • Those who frequent the Lewis Park parking lot to have their lunch. • Local neighborhood residents. • Scheduled groups of all sizes for meal functions and social events. 3 I have asked Braemar Arena Manager Larry Thayer to research rough estimates to purchase, install and operate an artificial refrigeration system for this proposed practice rink, which is approximately 180' by 80' in dimension. The rinks at Braemar Arena are 200' by 85' in dimension. Mr. Thayer will be attending the April Park Board meeting as well as representatives from EHA. With a cover over an outdoor hockey rink, without sides, it would be reasonable to expect during a "normal weather winter season" that maintenance staff could create a safe sheet of ice ready to skate on by the first week in December without the assistance of artificial refrigeration. Artificial refrigeration would guarantee quality ice early in October; however, in my view it is debatable whether the extra dollars needed to capture four-six more critical weeks of the hockey season are truly worth the added expense. We should continue to avoid overlapping sport seasons, such as scheduling hockey during the end of the youth recreational football program season. It is my recommendation that, if the Park Board agrees with this experimental concept, we should propose to the Edina Hockey Association that they fund the architect/engineering fees needed to conduct a feasibility study and concept design phase, including soil testing, to draw up realistic options for the Lewis Park site for a covered ice rink to be serviced by a Zamboni, which would essentially be a donation from Braemar Arena. A professional architect/engineering firm could draw up different concept drawings for the Park Board to consider, as well as, determine what, if any, soil corrections might be necessary to support installation of a concrete slab for the hockey rink/picnic area. The study would also determine the feasibility of using the existing building at Lewis Park for storing the Zamboni. The hot water heaters and building headroom requirements may dictate that a new building is needed to house the Zamboni. If so, the consultant will determine site location and cost estimates. Lastly, if the EHA is strongly in favor of artificial refrigeration, then the consultant would also provide a site analysis and cost estimates to purchase, install and operate. This concept should, in my view, include a long-term financial commitment from the Edina Hockey Association to guarantee the purchase of a minimum amount of practice ice at this facility each year to cover operating expenses. If the Park Board agrees with this concept, in my view, the above recommendation should be the first step before discussing or making any commitments about financing. Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. PARK BOARD COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROJECTS The results of the email survey regarding Park Board community involvement projects is enclosed for your review. As you will notice, the Arbor Day tree planting project scored the highest. Therefore, I took the liberty to submit to the Edina Sun Current an article that invites the public to attend the Arbor Day tree and shrub planting event at Cornelia School Park on Arbor Day and meet their 2005 Park Board members. 4 This is not to say that the Park Board should not consider other additional community involvement projects, some of which could include: • Spring Clean-up • Adopt -A -Park • Park shelter building painting project • Neighborhood park input meetings (ice cream social) • Verbal or handout surveys to neighbors in the parks • Buckthorn abatement day in the park • Special walk in the park - meet your Park Board member and neighbors day No formal action is requested on this agenda item. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS MASTER PLAN As requested by Park Board Chairman George Klus, the following future Park Board agenda items are listed and shown with my proposed month to place the item on the Park Board agenda in 2005: • Bredesen Park Needs - August. • Basketball Court at Lewis Park - May. • Walking Paths and Sidewalks - September. • Edina Conservation League Presentation - June.** For your information, Park Maintenance Superintendent Vince Cockriel, City Engineer Wayne Houle, and I recently spent an hour with Janice Carter from the Edina Conservation League viewing a power point presentation about their organization and their water testing results this past year in various lakes (storm water retention ponds) in Edina, which included: • Pamela Lake. • Lake Harvey. • Lake Edina. It was my recommendation that their environmentally active group of volunteers could serve as an educational advocacy group for the community on important water quality issues. The Edina Conservation League would like to begin by educating the Park Board about their water testing results and enter into a dialogue as to how their volunteers can further educate the community and work towards our common goal to improve the water quality in Edina's lakes, ponds, and creeks. With the Park Board's permission, they would like to give the Park Board a presentation at the June 2005 Park Board meeting. **Park Board consensus is requested on this specific agenda item. UPDATES Assistant Director Ed MacHolda and I will give the Park Board verbal updates on the following projects. A. Kojetin Park Playground Equipment. B. Gymnasiums Proposal. C. Grandview Square Park Development. D. Aquatic Center construction project. No formal action is requested on this agenda item. OTHER This is also an opportunity for Park Board members and residents to address other concerns. no EDINA PARK BOARD 7:00 P.M. EDINA COMMUNITY ROOM EDINA CITY HALL MARCH 8, 2005 MEMBERS PRESENT: George Klus, Jeff Johnson, Mike Weiss, Mike Damman, Linda Presthus, Jessica Selleck, Todd Fronek, Jeff Sorem MEMBERS ABSENT: Karla Sitek, Andy Finsness STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton OTHERS PRESENT: Idelle Longman, Paul Selcke I. ALICE HULBERT Mr. Klus informed the Park Board that he asked Dr. Hulbert if she would attend the first part of the Park Board so that everyone can thank her and let her know that they appreciate everything she has done this past year. He pointed out that Dr. Hulbert has contributed a lot and has helped to cultivate some very good discussion. Dr. Hulbert commented that the Park Board has been a wonderful group of people to work with and has very much enjoyed her time on the Park Board. She noted that her only regret is that she cannot serve on both the City Council and Park Board. Dr. Hulbert indicated that she really appreciates all of the mentoring into the ways of the city that she has received since being on the Park Board. She added that the Park Board was her inspiration for deciding to run for City Council. Dr. Hulbert stressed that she is so amazed at the amount of time and volunteerism that everyone has put into this and how they have brought something before the board, prioritized it and did something about it. She stated she has learned a lot and it has been a lot of fun. Mr. Keprios congratulated Dr. Hulbert on being appointed to the City Council and thanked her for all of the support she has given the Park Board and knows that she will carry that out on the City Council. Mr. Klus asked the Park Board members to e-mail him any names of people that they would like Mayor Hovland to consider before he makes his appointment of the Park Board member. II. APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 8, 2005 PARK BOARD MINUTES Linda Presthus MOVED TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 8, 2005 PARK BOARD MINUTES. Mike Weiss SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED III. "PARKS AND RECREATION — YOUR BEST INVESTMENT" 12 -MINUTE VIDEO Mr. Keprios showed the Park Board a video on parks and recreation. IV. ADVENTURE PEAK KARE 11 NEWS STORY Mr. Keprios showed the Park Board a news story that was recently aired on KARE 11 news talking about Adventure Peak. V. UPDATES A. Braemar Athletic Field Project — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that bids were opened on February 24th to renovate the Braemar athletic fields, and there is $312,000 in the budget for this as part of the capital improvement plan. He noted there were four bids submitted to which the low bid was Veit Companies whose bid came in at $277,700. Mr. Keprios commented this is a good company who has experience and they hope to begin the project in June and if all goes well it will be done around August 1St after which they will start seeding. He noted that we would probably be able to use the field by mid to late June of 2006 and added that it will be the premier field in Minnesota when it's done. B. Kojetin Park Playground Equipment — Mr. MacHolda informed the Park Board that Kojetin Park is currently being advertised in the Sun Current to which the bid opening will be held on Tuesday, March 22°a at 2:00 p.m. C. Gymnasiums Proposal — Mr. Keprios handed out to the Park Board six different plans of the construction that is going on at the South View gym and the Community Center gym. He pointed out that they have had several meetings already with the "Community Input Committee" which consists primarily of members from the Edina Basketball Association, the Edina Girls Athletic Association as well as they have received some input from the Edina Baseball Association. He noted that the committee has contributed a tremendous amount of quality input into the design. Mr. Keprios commented that the project is moving along at a very fast pace. D. Gold Medal Award — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that the "Gold Medal Award" is the National Recreation Park Association's highest and most prestigious award that is given out to municipal park and recreation departments in five different classes based on population. He noted that Edina is considered a Class 4 community (under 50,000 population) and they have submitted a multi -page application form to which the Park and Recreation staff had the opportunity to contribute to. Mr. Keprios stated that Jennifer Bennerotte, Communications Director, was given all of the documents of 2 information and wrote the application to which she did a wonderful job. He noted that during the week of April 19th they would find out who the finalists are. Mr. Keprios commented that he thinks Edina has a very good shot, however, he has heard that it is almost unheard of for a community to win on its first try. It usually takes two to three years of applying before receiving it. Mr. Sorem asked what does it mean if they win the Gold Medal Award to which Mr. Keprios replied it means Edina receives national recognition and puts us on the map. Mr. Klus added that it's a really nice honor to the city and the staff for what they've done. E. Senior Center Kitchen Project — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that the kitchen project at the Senior Center is now complete. He noted that the Rotary Club contributed almost $20,000 and the Masica family contributed $500.00 towards the project. Mr. Keprios stated that it turned out beautiful. Ms. Presthus asked if the rates would change for rentals to which Mr. Keprios replied it will stay the same but noted that it will now be more attractive to renters. F. Grandview Square Park Development — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that they are on track with the development of the Grandview Square Park project. He noted that the quote they received is around $40,000 to which they are a little shy of what has been donated to date. However, that effort is still moving forward because they still need to come up with the rest of the funds to make it work. Mr. Klus informed the Park Board that there has been some miscommunication because the residents claim they were promised a park by Ron Clark and not by the City. Mr. Klus commented that he doesn't think the city should recommend or move ahead on something like this unless the money has already been raised. He added that he doesn't think the city should be putting extra money into the project without involvement from the people who live in that area. Mr. Keprios pointed out that the city attorney has drawn up a contract that Ron Clark will have to sign since they are going to serve as the general contractor and will use a lot of their own sub -contractors. He noted that all of the dollars received so far that have been deposited with the Edina Foundation have come from the Friends of the Library, the Edina Senior Citizen Center Advisory Board, and a few people who live in the Grandview Square condominiums. The city again paid for the architect fees; however, we are not planning to contribute any additional dollars towards the project. VI. PARK BOARD COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROJECTS Mr. Klus indicated that at the last Park Board meeting Mr. Weiss suggested that the Park Board maybe do something together in the community outside of the Park Board meeting. Mr. Klus noted that he has asked Mr. Keprios to develop a list of potential things the Park Board could discuss and possibly come to an agreement on what would be good for them as a group to go out and do in the community. Mr. Keprios went through the list he prepared. Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that he met with Mr. MacHolda, Ms. Tilsner and Ms. Miller to come up with a few ideas on different projects that the Park Board may be 3 interested in being involved with. He noted that one thought is to have the Park Board be involved with the spring clean up that is done every year by the maintenance staff that takes place in early spring. He stated this is an opportunity where they really clean the parks, boulevards and side street areas that otherwise do not get a lot of attention later in the year. Another thought was to have the Park Board adopt a park that hasn't already been adopted through the Adopt -A -Park program. Some other ideas they came up with were some of the shelter buildings need painting from time to time. Also, this year the Edina Conservation League is going to be heavily involved with the Arbor Day tree planting project which possibly the Park Board could help out with. Mr. Keprios stated that they could also do their own Needs Assessment Survey to which they could do a mailing and invite people to come to their park on a Saturday or weekday evening and ask them for their input as well as hand out a survey. This event could also be turned into an ice cream social or something like that. Other thoughts were to have a buckthorn abatement day or perhaps sponsor a special walk in the park day and meet your Park Board members. Mr. Keprios stated that these were some of the ideas they came up with. Mr. Weiss indicated that he thinks having a buckthorn abatement day would be a wonderful thing to do because there is so much of it and if everyone brought along another person they could get a lot done. Mr. Johnson suggested that they hold one of their summer Park Board meetings at one of the newer shelter buildings and post it so that neighbors can attend the meeting and give them their input and share their concerns. Mr. Sorem stated that he thinks it's a wonderful idea to have the Park Board go out into the community and show them the commitment on our part. He noted that he's not sure what project they should do but rather maybe do a couple of different projects a year. Ms. Selleck commented that she thinks they are all good ideas and thinks it would be really nice for the Park Board to get out into the community. Mr. Fronek indicated that he thinks it's very important for the Park Board to get out and meet people. He stated that if the city puts on some type of festival or something that maybe the Park Board should be present at that. He noted that he thinks a lot of people don't necessarily know that this avenue is available to them and commented that by them being out in front of the people is the best way to go about accomplishing that goal. Ms. Presthus noted that she brought this up to the Park Board a long time ago that she would be in favor of having some sort of a neighborhood night out that the Park Board would sponsor. Each Park Board member could be at a specific park. She commented that she has already taken out enough of her own buckthorn that she isn't too excited about chopping down more. Ms. Presthus stated that having a night out is something that would be visible and would be sponsored all over the community. Mr. Damman indicated that quite often he goes to the parks and gets input from the residents. He stated that he would like for the Park Board to do something formal and 11 maybe hand out a survey to them while they are there. He noted that it doesn't have to be on one certain day, however, they could do it in one day at the parks or they could do it throughout the year. Mr. Klus asked what events are held at the parks where the Park Board could volunteer. He noted that there is the Fourth of July Fireworks as well as the Art Center has some events but what do we do in the parks. Mr. Keprios replied that that there is the Iron Kids Triathlon, the Fall Into Arts Festival at Centennial Lakes, the Summer Beach Party in the middle of winter at Edinborough, the Parade of Boats, concerts throughout the summer at the amphitheatre and Lighthouse Night where they do a little fireworks display at the John Phillip Sousa's Band concert at Centennial Lakes. Ms. Presthus pointed out that most of those events center around Centennial Lakes or the pool and commented that she was thinking more of an ice cream social one night and open up 11 parks where each Park Board member is at a park. Mr. Klus stated that he thinks it would be good if the Park Board did something together where they are visible as a group at one thing whether it be painting a park shelter that needs work or cleaning up a pathway or a walkway at a park just so it's something that's visible that they can put PR out there to let people know that this is what we are going to be doing and come and join us. Mr. Keprios stated that they could take on an Arbor Day project by planting trees at a particular park. Mr. Klus asked Mr. Keprios to put together a list of projects based on what was just discussed and e-mail it to all Park Board members so everyone can rank them. At the April meeting they will decide what it is that they want to do. VII. COUNTRYSIDE PARK HOCKEY RINK Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that in his staff report lie stated there were 10 hockey rinks when actually there are 11 hockey rinks. Mr. Keprios handed out a report that shows what the current use is for the hockey rinks as well as the general skating areas. He commented that the average hours used versus the total numbers available shows that the hockey rinks for the most part are used on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. He noted that the hockey rinks are heavily booked on Tuesdays and Thursdays; however, there are times available pretty much on even the heaviest days. Mr. Keprios commented that they can't build enough hockey rinks or gymnasiums to ever accommodate the Tuesday and Thursday night need because people will always want more of the 6:00, 7:00 and 8:00 times. He pointed out that the problem is there is a lot of time left over on the weekends. Mr. Keprios added that the rinks are not just there for organized hockey but are also there for general skating. Mr. Johnson informed the Park Board that the only times the mites get to play inside are on Saturday and Sunday mornings. Mr. Keprios stated that he thinks his staff report speaks for itself in that the dilemma they are in: they need to make a wise decision about what to do with the hockey boards at Countryside Park. He noted that he thinks it would be unwise to spend a lot of money to put in new boards and lights in the wrong orientation over bad soils at Countryside Park. He commented that Countryside Park could still be left open as a nice skating area as • well as a separate area for "shinny hockey". Mr. Keprios noted that his recommendation would be to put another hockey rink in at Lewis Park. Mr. Fronek noted that he sent out a few e-mails regarding the situation and the responses were mostly from the under age 30 crowd and a lot depended on where they lived. He noted that he thinks a lot of people feel that the ice at Countryside Park is bad and it is totally dependent on the weather. If it's cold then the ice is good which makes Countryside Park an ideal location because it has easy access. Mr. Fronek pointed out that access and parking is a big issue at Todd Park, however, there is a new warming house there that probably should be getting a lot more use. He indicated that he grew up close to Lewis Park, however, it does get overrun with a lot of Bloomington residents. Therefore, if they put in a second rink at Lewis Park does that mean it just opens it up for more Bloomington residents rather than providing a neighborhood hockey rink for the people who live by Todd Park and Countryside Park. Mr. Sorem stated that it's no secret that Edina probably has the best ice in Minnesota if not the entire country for outdoor rinks and therefore Edina gets an incredible amount of non-resident use. He commented that he doesn't know how they can stop it but his theory is the more parks you can get hidden the better because the non-residents won't know how to find them. Parks like Lewis and Countryside are right out in the open and everyone knows where they are and they are easy access for people who are coming from outside the city. Mr. Sorem indicated that he thinks a place like Todd Park is tough to get to and that's a benefit to our community because the people in Edina are going to know how to find it. He added that there are a group of older guys who use the Lewis Park hockey rink on Saturday mornings, they are all nice guys, however, he knows that not one of them lives in Edina. He noted that they get there early, chew up the ice and it's pretty much unusable for the rest of the day. Mr. Sorem noted that he thinks maybe they should try to schedule the mites for Saturday mornings at the rinks that are out in the open like Lewis and Creek Valley in an effort to try and keep the non-residents away. He noted they should leave the parks open that are hard to find like Walnut Ridge and Todd and by doing this maybe it would help. Mr. Sorem pointed out that he thinks having two rinks at one location would be phenomenal and Lewis Park would be a great spot for it as long as they are renting it out. He noted that he would hate to see non-residents use the ice for an hour and chew it up and then go and do the same thing at the second rink. Mr. Johnson indicated that he thinks they can kill two birds with one stone by putting in an outdoor sheet of ice at Braemar between the golf dome and the south rink. He noted that, they could put in a refrigeration system with a pole barn roof over it and it would be sheltered by the hill. He added that there already is a Zamboni there and this way they could have ice from approximately the middle of October to the end of March. He noted that by doing this they would always have an extra sheet of ice even with the unpredictable weather. Mr. Johnson stated that he thinks it should be primarily used for the youth program. He commented that the mites are constantly looking for ice because they get shut out at least four or five weekends a year. He noted that he would guarantee that the Edina Hockey Association would come up with some funding for that. Mr. Sorem asked if the city currently charges a rental fee to reserve an outdoor rink to which Mr. Keprios explained that the Hockey Association pays the same fee that the facility Cel users pay, which is $8.00 per participant per season. He added that it does get rented out is to other users at an hourly rental fee. Mr. Klus asked if the neighborhood at Countryside Park would miss not having a neighborhood rink to which Mr. Johnson replied that Creek Valley is not that far away for them to use. Mr. Sorem commented that he's sure they would, however, there are only a few houses that are there and he doesn't feel like it's truly a neighborhood park like some of the others. Mr. MacHolda indicated that he agrees he doesn't really see Countryside as a neighborhood and thinks the group that would miss it the most would be the church and any high school programs. Ms. Presthus asked would all of the ice go or just the hockey rink to which Mr. MacHolda replied it would just be the boards. Mr. Sorem commented that the nice thing about Todd Park is there is already a nice facility there as well as lights. Mr. Keprios stated that they have the money for one rink and they can either put it at Lewis Park, Countryside Park or Todd Park. Ms. Presthus asked Mr. Keprios what he thinks of an outdoor rink at Braemar versus an indoor rink to which he replied that if they were to refrigerate an outside rink he thinks they would still need to put up a roof and walls. Mr. Johnson stated that he thinks it would only need a roof. Mr. Keprios indicated that he needs to find out more about the refrigeration system but he suspects it's pretty expensive. Mr. Sorem commented that he thinks people would be surprised at how much use a rink like that would get. Mr. Keprios noted that he would do a little analysis on this and crunch some numbers and at least get some rough figures on it. Mr. Damman asked when they do eventually revamp Countryside Park and put in a parking lot would they be able to put the hockey rink back but into a better position? Mr. Keprios replied that's a great question and at that point he would like to have a neighborhood meeting, hire a professional architect and draw up some concept designs with the neighborhood's input. He noted that some master plan ideas could include a centrally located parking lot immediately adjacent to a new replacement park shelter building with a new hockey rink in the proper orientation and reorient the west baseball field. And there are probably a lot of ideas that we haven't even thought about yet. Mr. Damman asked how would open skating be affected at Lewis Park if they just took it away from them. Mr. Keprios replied that they could literally set aside and schedule times that are designated for open skating only. Unfortunately, they do not have enough real estate to put in a decent general skating area outside of the hockey boards and added that they can't put one on the new athletic field because it would kill the grass. Mr. Damman asked if there are normally a lot of people who use Lewis Park for general skating to which Mr. Keprios replied it's a pretty small skating area and he doesn't believe it gets a lot of use. Ms. Selleck commented that she has frequented both Countryside Park and Todd Park and feels that Countryside Park does have the little bit of a lack of community. She noted that she does have some friends who live over there and they do use the skating rink. 7 Mr. Keprios stressed that as they debate the money that's available everyone needs to • understand that the money they are talking about is not capital improvement dollars which carry over from year to year. We are talking about operational dollars that do not carry over to the following year. He explained that our own internal staff builds these rinks and that is how they are able to get the job done at such a reasonable expense otherwise they would cost close to $50,000 or more. Therefore, if they are going to do something with that $25,000 they need to do it this year because they cannot bankroll that money. Mr. Johnson asked if there is enough room and would it be possible to make the parking lot bigger at Todd Park to which Mr. Keprios replied he thinks that could physically be done. Mr. Keprios pointed out that the problem they are going to have is facing the neighborhood. He noted that they would have to send out a mailing and have a hearing because they can't just go down there and put in a parking lot. Mr. Keprios commented that he thinks that is a good idea but the challenge is dealing with neighborhood opposition. Mr. Johnson noted that he would think the neighborhood would want a bigger parking lot rather than having all of the cars park on the street. Mr. Keprios replied that he was disappointed and surprised that some neighbors are strongly opposed to a parking lot. Mr. MacHolda indicated that he believes there is higher senior population by Todd Park and that those people might not be looking for boards and a hockey rink, they wanted a pathway, which they now have. Mr. Keprios stated that whatever we decide to do, we should send notices first to inform people about what we are thinking about doing and solicit their input. Mr. Sorem commented that maybe the Edina Hockey Association could raise some money for a second rink at Lewis Park and we can take the $25,000 we have now and put in a hockey rink at Todd Park. He noted that Todd Park already has a nice warming house and an attendant and that way we would then have 12 hockey rinks. Todd Fronek MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT A HOCKEY RINK BE PUT IN AT TODD PARK. Jeff Sorem SECONDED THE MOTION. Mr. Klus stated that the only thing he would like to see added to the motion is the caveat that we publicize this however Mr. Keprios would deem necessary and allow the neighbors to comment at the next Park Board meeting. He noted that this way it would still give the staff plenty of time to build it this summer. Mr. Fronek replied that he is okay with that caveat. IN FAVOR — George Klus, Jeff Sorem, Todd Fronek, Jeff Johnson, Jessica Selleck, Mike Weiss, Mike Damman. OPPOSED — Linda Presthus. MOTION CARRIED. : Mr. Weiss asked does that mean that we are not putting in a hockey rink at Countryside Park, which Mr. Klus replied that is correct. VIII. OTHER A. Pathways — Mr. Keprios indicated that the pedestrian and bicycle pathways/ trails was on the list to put on future agenda items. He noted that there is no update at this point but showed a master plan of where they currently are. Mr. Klus commented that they would talk about the progress of this at a future Park Board meeting. B. Tobacco Free Park Policy — Mr. Keprios handed out a newsletter from the Tobacco Free Youth Recreation organization. Mr. Johnson commented that this is not being followed at the arena and people are still smoking in front of the arena. C. Skate Park - Mr. Keprios indicated that he heard there was a request for shade at the skate park at the February Park Board meeting. He pointed out that he has found a couple of vendors who have given him quotes on what it would cost to put in some shade at the park. He noted that for an area of 40x60 the cost would be approximately $4,000 and our own staff could put it in the ground. Mr. Keprios stated that for $4,000 he thinks that between the three cities and the YMCA they would be able to find that within their operating budget. He noted that he doesn't think they would have to touch the money that is currently being set aside for the concessions building. D. Athletic Association Presidents - Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board they have scheduled a meeting with the Presidents of the Athletic Association on Wednesday, April 13th at 6:00 p.m. in the Mayor's conference room. He added that the Park Board members are more than welcome to attend. He stated that the agenda would cover facilities, overlapping seasons and background checks. Mr. Klus asked Mr. Keprios to send out an e-mail to the Park Board members with all of the information. E. The Perfect Show — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that the Adaptive Recreation Learning Exchange has put together a wonderful performance called "The Perfect Show". He noted that it's the same type of performance they did three years ago called "Totally Talent and Tunes" to which they received a lot of recognition. He noted that the performance will be held on March 12t at 3:00 pm and 7:00 pm at Richfield High School and tickets cost $5.00. Mr. Keprios pointed out that the Edina Rotary Club has been very supportive of this and have funded a good share of the expenses. Mr. Klus commented that if you get a chance it's definitely worth going to. Susie Miller and the other director from Richfield have done a great job putting it together. Mr. Keprios stated that it's very heartwarming to see the people who have disabilities feel so proud of themselves for their accomplishments and is very proud of Susie Miller for her passion and efforts. F. May - Ms. Selleck informed the Park Board that for "May Term" a few of her friends have applied to do buckthorn abatement at Highlands Park. She noted that they would find out whether or not they've been accepted on Friday. 9 G. Conservation League of Edina — A member in the audience, Paul Selcke, indicated to the Park Board that the Conservation League of Edina would like to have an Arbor Day event this year at Wooddale Park. He noted that the reason they chose Wooddale Park is because it's one of the premiere parks in the City of Edina. He indicated that they would like to plant some trees and possibly have a free tree distribution activity. Mr. Selcke stated that this would be a great opportunity for the Park Board members to join them and noted that it will be held on April 30th. He pointed out that Mr. Keprios has already said it's okay for them to plant the trees. Mr. Selcke explained that last year they held their first Arbor Day event at Van Valkenburg Park and their hope is to go to a different park each year. He noted that it's not just about planting trees in a park, it's also about trying to get residents involved with planting trees. Mr. Keprios commented that he has been very supportive of the Conservation League of Edina's efforts and he is always supportive of programs that give the city more trees. He noted that they would need to know what species they are planting as well as where because the law requires that Gopher One be called to mark locations of underground utilities before any holes are dug. Mr. Keprios explained that they would need to be careful that it doesn't get too large because Wooddale is a small park and they may want to think about going to Garden Park instead because the parking lot is much larger. Mr. Selcke asked if the Park Department could update their website regarding Arbor Day because the information is two years old. Mr. Keprios stated that he would look into it. IX. ADJOURNMENT Linda Presthus MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 8:45 P.M. Mike Damman SECONDED THE MOTION. MEETING ADJOURNED. 10 Off -Leash Dog Area Feasibility Study Ingraham & Associates was hired by the City of Edina to evaluate locations within the City for a potential off -leash dog area. As part of the study process meetings were held with the Edina Animal Control Officer, Braemar Golf Course staff and Edina Park staff. Site visits were made to city park and open space sites and cities and counties that operate off -leash dog park areas were contacted. The following is background information, a site -by -site comparison and our recommendations. Introduction and Background Information What is an off -leash dog area? An off -leash dog area is a defined area where dogs are allowed to play and walk off - leash. Dog areas or dog parks are designed to allow an exercise area for dogs and act as a social area for pet owners. Current city regulations require dogs to be on a leash or within a fenced yard. Off -leash dog areas can be controversial as there are perceptions of problems (noise, traffic, pet waste) from adjacent property owners and potential displacement of other recreational uses. Site selection is the key to a successful off -leash dog area/park. Dog areas/parks can also be established on a temporary basis with a periodic review to determine their suitability and performance. The dog area/park can be open to the public or can be open only to permit holders. The advantage of a permit -only system is to allow better communication with area users. The disadvantage of permit -only use is the administrative requirements for the city and the dog owner and the enforcement requirement for the city to check for valid permits. No cities or counties in Minnesota restrict use of their dog areas to residents only. Why have an off -leash dog area? There are an estimated 7,000-8,000 dogs in Edina. Approximately 6,000 households in Edina have dogs (28% of the city population). Few of these people have property large enough to allow a dog to get significant exercise. As awareness of other communities' off -leash dog exercise areas increases, citizens are asking for a local off -leash dog area. Ingraham & Associates Inc. 1 City of Edina — Dog Area Feasibility Study 4/03/01 Off -leash dog areas/parks provide an area for dogs to run. Some people currently use city parks, golf courses and school property to let their dog run off -leash. This is in violation of city regulations that require dogs to be on a leash or within a fenced yard area. The City Animal Control Officer issues warning and citations for violations of the leash and pick-up regulations. Citizens ask, "Where can I let my dog run off -leash?" There is a demand for off -leash areas. Where are existing off -leash dog areas/parks located? Off -leash dog parks are relatively new to Minnesota. There are off -leash dog areas/parks in Bloomington, Hennepin Parks, Ramsey County, and St. Paul. Several metro area cities are currently considering dog exercise areas. The City of Minneapolis is proposing to locate several dog parks in existing parks and on city lands. One proposed site is an off - leash dog area on Minneapolis Water Works land next to Weber Park in the northeast corner of Edina. The site is designed to serve Minneapolis residents, but it would also serve some St. Louis Park and Edina residents. From Edina's perspective it is not the most convenient location. What are the maintenance and enforcement requirements for an off -leash dog area? Dog areas/parks are relatively low maintenance. The level of maintenance is similar or lower than a typical public park. Emptying trash containers and periodic mowing are the main maintenance activities. Pet owners pick up dog waste and place it in trash containers. Operating experience in Minnesota shows that there are few issues, and the enforcement requirements are low. What are the costs of building a dog park? Constructions costs depend upon the site characteristics. Costs can range from less than $10,000 to close to $50,000 depending upon the amount of fencing and the need for a parking lot. Smaller sites will need to be fenced. If the site does not have parking, a parking lot would have to be built. Other expenses are signs and a picnic table. What are the attributes of a good off -leash dog area? ➢ A large enough area to allow dogs to obtain exercise (+ 2.5 acres is desirable). ➢ A flat open area of at least one acre. ➢ Suitable buffers or separation from adjacent uses (similar to other public park uses). ➢ Good visibility and access. ➢ Adequate parking (15-20 spaces). ➢ A fenced area or other suitable boundaries. ➢ An involved citizen group to help set up and operate the park. ➢ Other desirable, but not essential features such restrooms and a drinking water supply. Ingraham & Associates Inc. 2 City of Edina — Dog Area Feasibility Study 4/03/01 0 Candidate Site Evaluation Due to the developed nature of the city there are few options for suitable off -leash dog areas. Based on discussions with city staff and an evaluation of city land, the following sites were evaluated as potential off -leash dog areas: See the attached map for site locations. Creek Valley Park - The north portion of the park next to Highway 62. Braemar Park - The southwest comer of the park, south of the arena and within the Public Works outside storage area. Walnut Ridge Park - The central area of the park, within the loop trail. Van Valkenburg Park - The lower area near the pond in the northwest corner of the park. Located between the parking area and Lincoln Drive. See the attached maps of each site showing potential dog area locations. Site Evaluation Ingraham & Associates Inc. 3 City of Edina — Dog Area Feasibility Study 4/03/01 Creek Valley Braemar Park Walnut Van Park Ridge Park Valkenburg Park Site size 2.3 - 4.6 acres 3.5 acres 3 to 4 acres 1.7 acres (approx.) Open flat area NO POTENTIALLY YES NO Neighborhood GOOD POTENTIALLY FAIR GOOD compatibility GOOD Access and GOOD GOOD FAIR GOOD visibility Displacement NONE SOME SOME NONE of existing activities Existing SOME NONE NONE SOME fencing/barriers EXISTING Existing YES YES YES YES parkin Fencing #1 = 1,100 ft. 1,400 feet 1,400 feet 800 feet required and #1 = $11,000 $14,000 $14,000 $8,000 estimated cost #2 =1,900 ft. #2 = $19,000 Ingraham & Associates Inc. 3 City of Edina — Dog Area Feasibility Study 4/03/01 Recommendation The site evaluation shows that there is no one ideal location for an off -leash dog exercise area in Edina. The Creek Valley site has the best combination of features, but is an irregular site with little flat area. It has existing parking, is very visible, has convenient access and is compatible with adjacent land uses (Hwy 62, the park and school). The primary drawback is the small site size and lack of flat open terrain. Two options exist in Creek Valley Park: #1. A linear area along the north edge of the park. The area outside the hockey and skating area is 2.3 acres and is primarily rolling terrain. The water tower would be inside the dog exercise area. #2. An area located around the hockey rink and open skating rink. The area could function as a dog exercise area in the spring, summer and fall and a skating area in the winter. Dog areas are typically used in the winter so some signage, management and enforcement may be needed to prevent conflicts and dog use in the winter. Areas # 1 and #2 could be combined during the summer. The Braemar/Public Works site has the potential to be a suitable site, but it requires extensive grading, fencing and reconfiguration of the public works open storage area. The area south of Braemar Boulevard would need re -grading and a fence would be required between the public works driveway, golf course and nature trail to the east and public works storage area to the south. The dog park area could be constructed as part of a re -configuration and aesthetic upgrade of the public work storage area. This area is also contemplated for a regional police and fire training facility. There would not be room for the training facility, dog exercise area and the public works open storage area. Walnut Ridge Park has an area in the center of the park that is suitable for dog use. The central area of the park is not used for active or programmed recreational uses. The low wet soils make turf management and active recreation use (i.e. ball fields, soccer, etc.) difficult. It would require a fence around the inside of the loop trail. The biggest drawbacks of this site are the somewhat hidden access to the neighborhood park and the location within a developed residential neighborhood. The dog use area would be approximately 200 feet from the nearest home. The northwest comer of Van Valkenburg Park has an area around a small pond that is somewhat suitable for dog use. The area is small and slopes toward the pond, but is not used for any other recreational uses. The area is located between the lower parking area and Lincoln Drive. Ingraham & Associates Inc. 4 City of Edina — Dog Area Feasibility Study 4/03/01 OIERGIliro I N G R A H A M S SOCIATES H h T .0 7 N as LL. rr O Co N C Q C CM2 o CO N exp 11.1 N 4f '�— J �, t 0 t, z n V 7 r+ N d ca L O c L C Q � p O �O N cc LLJ N O t 002 900 a� �o oom� a � C:) o Cc 0) 0) CO) C CL o< C -- u X CL ,^ A CD T CO) c� ri Q a BRAEMIK PR�/A Q 60v:� Dom Q / L ov.Ki[ J:• 1 3 Q - / An/ �l • Go PO NTIAL SITE � � l tbRiAre 6UN Braemar Park Site Off -Leash Dog Area Feasibility Study City of Edina, Minnesota March 28, 2001 Planners & Landscape Architects (612)377-2500 John Keprios From: Timothy Hunter 0ent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:42 AM 0: John Keprios Cc: Ken Kane Subject: Dog Parks John, I spoke with Vince Cockriel yesterday and he indicated that dog parks were an agenda item at the Tuesday committee meeting. I'd like to see if we couldn't bring this to a resolution this year. I've assessed the number of REGISTERED dogs by quadrant of the city: NE Quadrant: 613 households 679 dogs SE Quadrant: 171 households 188 dogs NW Quadrant: 481 households 549 dogs SW Quadrant: 309 households 349 dogs These are the registered dogs. I know there are many other dogs that have not been registered, but that's a different issue. I believe this data, although not complete, is at least representative of the city-wide distribution. I'd like to propose a two level program for dog parks. The first level would be a short term implementation of dog park(s). Vince indicated that VanValkenburg park is a site being considered for a permanent dog park, but the funds are not currently available for the fencing of the area. I agree this area would be well placed for serving residents and would support efforts to complete a dog park there. I've had a number of dog owners express a willingness to donate funds to the fencing of an area (one actually offered to foot the bill entirely!). Please let me know if there is anything I can do. I can provide a mailing list of dog owners if you would like to solicit support for the project. mor the second level, I discussed an idea from Eden Prairie with Vince and he also thought it would serve the residents ell. I propose opening the hockey rinks around the city for use as dog parks from April through September. This would improve accessibility to a dog park for residents for 6 months of the year, particularly for those people who live further away from VanValnkenburg and may not take advantage of it. In so doing, these residents would, at the very least, be paying park permit fees that would ultimately go to the VanValkenburg project. Obviously typical dog park rules would apply, i.e. no aggressive dogs, owners/handlers would clean up after themselves, etc. These would require minimal cost to begin utilizing even this year yet and we could begin a permit process that would begin raising funds toward the VanValkenburg site. I suggest a $20 per year per person for permit access to the dog park(s). We could reassess this for a possible per DOG if we find abuse or misuse. have some ideas for a longer term solution, but I believe starting here will give us the information we would need to determine any future directions for a dog park program. I realize there are a lot of considerations, but if you could let me know what you think is feasible, I'd appreciate it. owe -cn �y REPORUREC OMMENDATION To: Mayor Maetzold and members of Agenda Item IV. A. the Edina City Council. From: John Keprios, Direcor Consent F-1Park & Recreation Depa ment Information Only ❑ Date: April 26, 2001 Mgr. Recommends ❑ To HRA ® To Council Subject: Off-leash Dog Parks ® Motion ❑ Resolution ❑ Ordinance ❑ Discussion RECOMMENDATION: The Park Board recommends that the only off -leash dog park to be considered at this time be the France Avenue site. INFO/BACKGROUND: As directed by the City Council, staff conducted a study to determine if there is a reasonable site for an off -leash dog park, and specifically Creek Valley Park, within the city. The professional consulting firm of Ingraham and Associates was hired to study the issue and work with staff to look at the potential sites for suitable off -leash dog parks in addition to the Minneapolis Public Works site on France Avenue. As shown in Mr. Greg Ingraham's attached report, he worked with city park and police staff to identify potential sites and came up with four additional areas: 1. Creek Valley Park (near water tower) 2. Braemar Park (former Gun Range site) 3. Walnut Ridge Park (within south end of pathway) 4. Van Valkenburg Park (around holding pond) As shown in the attached Park Board minutes (minutes not yet approved by Park Board), Mr. Ingraham presented his findings and recommendations to the Park Board. Mr. Ingraham's recommendations suggest that none of the four sites could be considered ideal locations for an off -leash dog park site. As reflected in his report, only Walnut Ridge Park has a large flat open area for dogs to run free, however, Walnut Ridge Park is not easily accessible due to its location. After lengthy discussion and failure of two motions, the Park Board passed a motion that suggests not to use Creek Valley Park as an off -leash dog park site at this time. The Park Board recommends that only the Minneapolis Public Works property on France Avenue be considered as an off -leash dog park at this time. Mr. Ingraham will attend the City Council meeting to present his findings and recommendations. EDINA PARK BOARD 7:00 P.M. EDINA ART CENTER APRIL 10, 2001 MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Damman, Floyd Grabiel, David Fredlund, George Klus, Karla Sitek, Ardis Wexler, Tom White, Andy Finsness, John Murrin MEMBERS ABSENT: Linda Presthus STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton, Diana Hedges I. APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 13, 2001 PARK BOARD MINUTES Floyd Grabiel MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 13, 2001 PARK BOARD MINUTES. Dave Fredlund SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED. II. TOUR OF EDINA ART CENTER & PRESENTATION - DIANA HEDGES, ART CENTER DIRECTOR III. RECREATIONAL FACILITIES REFERENDUM UPDATE - JOHN KEPRIOS IV. OFF -LEASH DOG PARK STUDY AND PROPOSAL - GREG INGRAHAM, INGRAHAM & ASSOCIATES Mr. Keprios explained that the City Council directed him to look at different areas within the city to determine if there is a reasonable site for an off -leash dog park and specifically Creek Valley Park. Mr. Keprios then introduced Greg Ingraham from Ingraham & Associates Consulting firm whom was commissioned to look at the potential sites for an off -leash dog park. Mr. Ingraham indicated that he worked with city park and police staff to identify potential sites and came up with four areas. He pointed out that some of the criteria they looked for was size, access and visibility as well as flat areas. Mr. Ingraham explained that all four sites could work, however, all four were marginal at best and there was no one great site. Mr. Ingraham noted that Creek Valley was one of the four sites they looked at and showed an aerial photo of the location and explained the site noting that it could work. However, the one thing it does lack is a flat area because it's fairly rolling. He added that Creek Valley does have a lot of uses in the summer and has primarily ice skating in the winter. He noted that the green marking outlined on the map is where the rink is located and it could cause a problem because dog parks are used 365 days a year which may make it hard to manage. However, the pink area marked would work fairly well. Mr. Ingraham explained that the Walnut Ridge site from the physical aspect of the park land does work quite well and is probably the best site in terms of physical space. There is a large flat area that is not programmed for active recreation use and it has a loop trail around it. However, the drawbacks are it's a hard park to get to and it's a neighborhood park, not a community type of park. Mr. Ingraham indicated that Van Valkenburg was another site that was looked at which is right by the ball field complex. He explained that the drawback to this site is there is not a lot of flat area. It would work but again it is a marginal site and lacks an open area. Mr. Ingraham showed where the Braemar site could be located and noted that it would be by where the old gun range was. He indicated that he feels this could be a good site in the future if it was combined with an aesthetic upgrade of the public works facility and use the dog park as a sort of transition to the maintenance activities. Mr. Ingraham pointed out that this site is also being proposed for a regional police/fire training facility. He noted that he doubts everything could be put on this one site and make it function. He noted that Braemar would certainly be an adequate area. Mr. Ingraham indicated that all of the areas he mentioned do have parking areas and noted that there would be various fencing costs. He stated that on the whole scale of things dog parks are relatively cheap to develop and maintain and do work quite well. However, he did not see one site that he could say he thinks would be great. He noted he feels all of them would work and would get used because there is definitely a demand for it. Mr. Grabiel asked how do these sites compare in size with the site Minneapolis wants to use to which Mr. Keprios replied that the Minneapolis site is a little over four acres and the sites mentioned tonight are 2.5 to 3 acres. Mr. Klus asked why is there such a sudden interest in this and asked if they are trying to appease someone. Mr. Keprios replied that the City Council has directed him to look at the Creek Valley site specifically as well as all of Edina to see to see if it would be feasible to put in an off -leash dog park. 2 Mr. Keprios indicated that he did talk to the Chief of Police and Chief Siitari informed him that he would not be in favor of any of the sites mentioned for an off -leash dog park unless he was given additional resources to enforce it. Mr. Ingraham commented that both the City of Bloomington and Ramsey County have an off -leash dog site and both have said that for the most part they are self -enforcing. He indicated that basically they only have to go there to empty the trash. Mr. Damman asked if the City did decide to designate a place for an off -leash dog site would there be any legal ramifications to the City if a dog were to attack someone, etc. Mr. Ingraham replied that it's his understanding that it's no different than any other liability, he doesn't think it would heighten anything. Ms. Wexler asked if this goes to the City Council is there recourse for the people in the community who simply do not want it at a particular site. Mr. Keprios responded that there would likely be a public hearing before it would actually be implemented. Mr. Murrin indicated that he doesn't have a dog and he doesn't have a charitable feeling either way, however, Walnut Ridge seems to be an area that may have less human use and would be an acceptable site for an off -leash dog park. He noted that he thinks it would actually be a positive to the neighborhood and not a negative. John Murrin MOVED THAT THE WALNUT RIDGE PARK BE DEVELOPED INTO AN OFF -LEASH DOG PARK. Mr. Murrin commented that we should see if neighborhood problems prevail or if it becomes a cost issue for enforcement for the Edina Police Department. Mr. Murrin commented that he sees our function as a park board to be able to be innovative and at least get things to the table he would hate to see this thing just not be forwarded. THE MOTION FAILED DUE TO A LACK OF A SECOND. Floyd Grabiel MOVED THAT THE PARK BOARD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PROCEED WITH FURTHER INVESTIGATING THE FEASIBILITY OF THE DOG PARK AT EITHER THE CREEK VALLEY OR THE BRAEMAR SITE. John Murrin SECONDED THE MOTION. Ms. Sitek indicated that she would like to go back and look at the site that Minneapolis proposed. Mr. Klus noted that he agrees with Ms. Sitek, the best site is the Minneapolis site over by Weber Park. He indicated that we need the City Council to see that the site Minneapolis wants to use is the best area and it's the flattest area of all of the other sites presented tonight. Also, it is currently being used as an unofficial off -leash dog site. In addition, it is also going to get the least amount of friction from the community compared to the other sites mentioned. Mr. White stated that Minneapolis would also pay for the 3 fencing and maintenance as well as putting in a parking lot. Therefore, it wouldn't become an expense to the City of Edina. Mr. Grabiel indicated that he would like to speak in support of his motion. He noted that with the Braemar site and the Creek Valley site there are no neighbors to worry about. He stated that with Van Valkenburg and Walnut Ridge there are neighbors to worry about. Therefore, that is why he likes the Braemar and Creek Valley sites and really likes Braemar the best. He noted there are a lot of people within the City of Edina who have an interest in having an off -leash dog park. He stated that frankly he doesn't like the idea of the Minneapolis Park Board coming in and putting their park within the City of Edina limits. If we think in Edina we need an off -leash dog park than lets put one in Edina, on Edina park land where we can control what happens. If Minneapolis comes in even with a joint powers agreement we lose control and that is why he favors this and does not favor the Minneapolis site. Mr. Klus commented that he thinks we would have just as much control on the Minneapolis site as we would on our own site. He noted that he felt after everything was debated that we were going to still be able to provide something to the residents of Edina and it was going to be fair and we were going to have control. Also, we were going to say that if it didn't work out we would ask them to move and we wouldn't allow it to go on. Mr. Keprios asked is your motion to further study it to which Mr. Grabiel responded his motion was to recommend to the City Council that we proceed with an off -leash dog park site at either Braemar or Creek Valley, which would be just the pink area shown. Mr. White asked all in favor of Floyd Grabiel's motion to go forward with either the Creek Valley site or the Braemar site. IN FAVOR: Floyd Grabiel, Andy Finsness, Ardis Wexler, John Murrin OPPOSED: Dave Fredlund, George Klus, Karla Sitek, Tom White ABSTAINED: Mike Damman MOTION DID NOT PASS. George Klus MOVED THAT WE ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE OFF -LEASH DOG PARK AT THE PROPOSED MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC WORKS SITE ALONG FRANCE AVENUE. Mr. Finsness asked if the City Council is aware of the Minneapolis proposed off -leash dog site to which Mr. Keprios replied that he believes that they are familiar with it. 4 Mr. White asked Mr. Klus if his motion then would be to direct Mr. Keprios to contact the Minneapolis Park Board again. Mr. Klus noted that he would say that his motion would say that we recommend to the City Council to consider only the France Avenue site at this time, which we have already evaluated. Mr. Klus restated his motion to RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE ONLY OFF -LEASH DOG PARK TO BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME BE THE FRANCE AVENUE SITE. Karla Sitek SECONDED THE MOTION. Mr. Grabiel asked if the Police Chief s opinion has changed where he doesn't want us to take on Minneapolis problems and be responsible. Mr. White noted that he can't believe his opinion has changed. Mr. Keprios noted that the Police Chief would support the Minneapolis Public Works site only if they meet the demands that have been stipulated. Mr. Klus noted that all we are doing is going back to the City Council to look at that. He noted that he is saying that is the one that we would rather see them look at. All In Favor: George Klus, Karla Sitek, John Murrin, Dave Fredlund, Andy Finsness, Ardis Wexler, Tom White Opposed: Floyd Grabiel Abstain: Mike Damman 5 '�'elJl'1 • rH^ IVU. 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DUB At COMPLETION OQUt Utilities, Underground, Property Markers, Permits, Children, and Location.) lr. zzr. `o /o tt5-- O 0312004 0 *Kom& December 2004 - March 2005 PARK PAVILION RENTAL These pavilions can be rented for children's birth fpaties and small group events. These enclosed pavilion open year-round and can accommodate up to 30 people. Louisiana Oaks Park, 22nd and Louisiana Avenue Oak Hill Park, 34th and Quebec Avenue Wolfe Park, 3700 Monterey Drive $25 per hour (resident) / $35 (non-resident) $300 damage deposit AMPHITHEATER RENTAL The Veterans' Memorial Amphitheater can be rented for performances, weddings, religious services, product roll- outs and other large group presentations. Our outdoor amphitheater seats up to 300 and is available from May 1 through October 30. All private rentals must provide their own P.A. system. Wolfe Park, 3700 Monterey Drive $35 per hour (resident) / $45 per hour (non-resident) $50 per hour (resident w/Park Pavilion) / $60 per hour (non-resident w/Park Pavilion) $300 damage deposit PICNIC SHELTER RESERVATIONS Summer picnic shelter reservations for Dakota, Oak Hill and Wolfe Parks will be accepted beginning January 3. Shelters in these three parks can accommodate groups of 20 to 100. All shelters can be rented from May 7 through September 25. Indoor toilets are open from June 1 through August 31. Portable toilets will be available before June 1 and after August 31. Groups reserving pic- nic shelters may not bring alcoholic beverages into the park. Live bands or use of amplified music requires a special use permit. Dakota Park, 27th and Dakota (one shelter available) Oak Hill Park, 34th and Quebec (three shelters available) Wolfe Park, 3700 Monterey Drive (two shelters available) Rental hours: 11 a.m. - 3:30 p.m. or 4:30 - 9 p.m. $35 - $60 (resident) / $45 - $90 (non-resident) For additional hours before 11 a.m.: $15 per hour (resident) / $20 per hour (non-resident) Note: Shelters at these three parks cannot be reserved on Memorial Day, July Fourth or Labor Day. On these holi- days, these shelters are available on a first come, first served basis. Shelters in all other parks cannot be reserved: they are available only on a first come, fust served basis. OFF -LEASH DOG PARK An off -leash dog park has been opened on an interim basis until a permanent home can be found for this facili- ty. To use the dog park, visitors must first purchase an annual dog park permit. To purchase a permit, you can print off the form from the city's web site at www.stlouis- park.org (click on "Permits & Forms"). Or, you can visit the Inspections Counter in City Hall, 5005 Minnetonka Boulevard, between 8 a.m. and 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. Permits purchased in 2005 will be good for the entire year — no matter where the permanent dog park is eventually located. Bass Lake Preserve, West 36th Street and Belt Line Blvd. (east side of tennis courts) $25 permit (resident) / $50 permit (non-resident) MOBILE STAGE RENTAL Our portable 36' mobile stage is available for rental on weekdays after 4 p.m. and on weekends. Rental fee includes delivery, set-up, built-in stage and PA system. Extended stage is available for an additional fee. $600 & up BROOKVIEW GOLF COURSE Thanks to a reciprocal agreement between the Cities of St. Louis Park and Golden Valley, St. Louis Park resi- dents may buy patron cards at the Golden Valley resident rate. Patron cards go on sale January 3. For more infor- mation, call Brookview at 763/512-2333. 200 Brookview Parkway, Golden Valley $65 resident patron card (before April 1) $70 resident patron card (beginning April 1) $25 18 -hole resident patron golf round $14.50 9 -hole resident patron golf round $7.50 par -3 resident patron golf round WILLISTON FITNESS CENTER Thanks to a reciprocal agreement between the Cities of St. Louis Park and Minnetonka, St. Louis Park residents may join the Williston Fitness Center at the Minnetonka resident rate. Williston has an indoor pool, indoor tennis, indoor baseball/softball practice facilities, a party room, basketball, volleyball and gym activities as well as car- diovascular and strength conditioning equipment. 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