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EDINA PARK BOARD
TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2005
7:00 P.M.
COMMUNITY ROOM
EDINA CITY HALL
AGENDA
1. Welcome New Park Board Member, Mr. Raymond E. O'Connell.
2. Approval of April 12, 2005, Park Board Minutes.
*3. Todd Park Hockey Rink Proposal.
*4. Braemar Park Archery Range Proposal.
5. Basketball Court at Lewis Park.
6. Future Park Board Community Involvement Projects.
7. Park Board Park Assignments and Presentations.
8. Future Agenda Items Master Plan.
A. Bredesen Park Needs.
B. Walking Paths and Sidewalks.
C. Edina Conservation League Presentation.
9. Updates.
A. Arneson Acres Park Entrance & Parking Lot.
B. Gymnasiums Proposal.
C. Gold Medal Award.
D. Maetzold Amphitheater Dedication.
E. Youth Athletic Association Presidents Meeting Results.
F. Grandview Square Park Development.
10. Other.
*11. Adjournment.
*These are agenda items that require or request Park Board action.
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EDINA, MINNESOTA, 5 542 4-1 3 94
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Memo
To: Edina Park Board.
From: John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
Date: May 3, 2005
Re: TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2005, PARK BOARD MEETING STAFF
REPORT.
Enclosed you should find the following items:
1. Tuesday, May 10, 2005, Park Board Agenda.
2. Tuesday, April 12, 2005, Park Board Minutes.
3. Letter from Maryann Martinek.
4. 2 emails from Nancy Webster.
5. Response from Besse Maragos.
6. Email from Mike Woolsey
7. Email from Deb and Steve Spellman.
8. Email from John and Susan Engen.
9. Email from David Musolf.
10. Email from Nancy and Jack Nichols.
11. Email from Mayank Jain.
12. April 7, 2005, Memo to Neighbors of Todd Park.
13. Park Board Park Assignment Sheet.
14. Park Board Community Involvement Survey Results.
The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with the
exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the agenda for other
information items (not requiring formal action), last minute items that may come up between
now and the Park Board meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board members
and/or attendees.
PARK BOARD MEETING IN THE
COMMUNITY ROOM
EDINA CITY HALL
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
The Tuesday, May 10, 2005, Park Board meeting will be at 7:00 p.m. in the Community
Room at Edina City Hall. If you are unable to attend, please call either Office Coordinator,
Janet Canton, at 952-826-0435 or me at 952-826-0430.
WELCOME NEW PARK BOARD MEMBER, MR. RAYMOND E.
O'CONNELL
The City Council recently appointed Mr. Raymond E. O'Connell to the Park Board.
Welcome to the Park Board Mr. O'Connell and thank you for volunteering to serve.
TODD PARK HOCKEY RINK PROPOSAL
As you will notice in the enclosed responses from the Todd Park neighborhood, the
overwhelming majority of resident are in support of the recommendation to place an outdoor
hockey rink back at Todd Park. The only opposition was concerning inadequate parking to
support additional traffic, which must use on -street parking because there currently is not a
parking lot within the park boundaries. If we find that on -street parking poses a serious safety
issue for the neighborhood, my recommendation would be to request the Traffic Safety
Committee to work with the neighborhood to consider parking restrictions on one or both
sides of streets where needed. The long-range master plan should include a hard surface
parking lot located near the park shelter building.
Based on the neighborhood's input, I recommend that the Park Board approve the proposal to
place a permanent outdoor hockey rink at Todd Park. If the Park Board approves this
recommendation, staff will build the hockey rink this fall.
Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item.
BRAEMAR PARK ARCHERY RANGE PROPOSAL
Prior to the late 1980's, the Edina Park and Recreation Department provided a public archery
range at Braemar Park. The archery range, which was free and open to the public, was
located what is now the new nine -holes (holes 19-27) of golf at Braemar Golf Course. The
elevated hay bail archery range system was a very popular and successful park activity during
its tenure. I have received several requests to find a suitable location to develop a new
outdoor archery range site every since.
I believe we now have a suitable and safe location for a replacement archery range near the
new South Metro Police and Fire Training Facility in Braemar Park. At the May 10th Park
Board meeting I will show you a site location map of the exact area that I have in mind. I
believe there is enough space to place an archery range on the east side of the entrance road
and east of the nature trail at this Braemar Park location. To make this a suitable location, the
project would require the following:
• Architect's feasibility analysis of the site location, including topographic survey.
• Architect's project design with specifications, including size and location of parking,
location of archery bails, shooting station markers, tree and vegetation removal, and
excavation.
• Architect's project cost analysis to develop the site into a safe and suitable archery
range.
I have already made contacts with the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and
various volunteers involved in the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association, both local chapters
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and the statewide organization. I have been invited to give a presentation on Monday, June 6,
to the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association regarding this proposal. The Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources has expressed their support of this project and has
encouraged me to contact their in-house staff architect expert on outdoor archery ranges for
possible in-kind support. In addition, the Minnesota DNR also encouraged me to submit a
grant request to build the site. The Minnesota Deer Hunters Association has also expressed a
strong desire to help finance the project to make it happen.
If we are able to carve out a suitable distance and orientation for a safe outdoor archery range
at this proposed location, I believe this would be an ideal location for a number of reasons. It
would be close to the new Police and Fire Training Facility where we offer Minnesota DNR
sponsored firearms safety training classes. Part of the course work could offer hands-on
training for safe handling of bow and arrow use. The location is a non-residential site that
should not create opposition due to increased traffic or on street parking in their
neighborhood. The site should be a very safe location due to the large hills that separate the
archery range from the golf course.
If the Park Board endorses this concept, I would propose to pursue funding through donations
and grants to fund the entire project, with the exception of architect fees. It is my view that
we need to fund the feasibility portion in case the findings are that it is not a suitable or safe
location; however, I do intend to at least ask for assistance from the Minnesota DNR on -staff
architect for any assistance he can provide at no charge.
I recommend that the Park Board approve this project in concept so that staff can further
pursue the feasibility of the site.
Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item.
BASKETBALL COURT AT LEWIS PARK
The Park Board asked that this item be placed on the agenda for discussion this year. I
assume that the question is whether or not there is a feasible location within Lewis Park to
build an outdoor basketball court.
The dimensions of some of our outdoor basketball courts are:
• Utley Park 60' X 90'
• Normandale Park 60' X 84'
• Countryside Park 60' X 84'
• Weber Park 80' X 92' (includes four-square and 2 hop scotch)
• Heights Park 46' X 31' (half -court size)
All of our outdoor basketball courts have a painted asphalt surface with a three-foot wide
concrete apron around the entire perimeter, which helps eliminate erosion around the edges
and is easier to maintain.
After looking over the entire park site, it is my opinion that the only suitable site for a full size
outdoor basketball court within the park would be immediately to the west of the newly
developed west athletic field and just south of the playground equipment. Another alternative
could be to install removable basketball standards just outside the hockey rink boards to serve
as a multi-purpose court. The outdoor hockey rink currently has an asphalt surface.
Another approach would be to develop a half -court with a basketball standard similar to what
exists at Heights Park. Again, the best location for that would be south of the playground
equipment and west of the athletic field.
My concerns about placing a full size basketball court at Lewis Park are:
1. Changes the character of the park.
2. Lack of adequate parking during scheduled athletic events.
3. Neighborhood concerns about the added amenity.
4. Close proximity to the west athletic field.
5. Questionable stable soil conditions.
6. Funding.
This is not to say that I do not support the concept. If the Park Board would like to pursue
this concept, I would suggest that we first pay for soil boring tests to determine if the site can
support an outdoor basketball court and, if so, at what cost. Second, I would recommend that
a letter be sent to the neighborhood to solicit their input and place the matter on a future Park
Board agenda. We currently do not have a new outdoor basketball court in our Capital
Improvement Plan; however, there is currently a balance of just over $92,000 in our general
Park Developers Fund. I believe that the Edina Basketball Association may be willing to
assist us with funding to develop more outdoor basketball courts in our parks.
Given the Park Board's direction, staff will further study the issue for project costs, soil
conditions, as well as, funding options.
Park Board consensus is requested on this agenda item.
FUTURE PARK BOARD COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROJECTS
On Friday, April 29, at 10:00 a.m., the following Park Board members attended the Arbor
Day planting project at Cornelia School:
1.
Michael Damman
2.
Todd Fronek
3.
George Klus
4.
Karla Sitek
5.
Michael Weiss
After just over an hour of digging, planting and spreading woodchips, and under the direction
of the City Forester, Tom Horwath, this energetic group (including myself and Ed MacHolda)
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planted 7 Medora Junipers and two Merrill Magnolias. The Magnolias are single stem small
tree, reaching a mature height of 30'. The Juniper's mature height is 15'.
Chairman, George Klus, has asked that the Park Board have a follow-up dialogue to explore
any interest in taking on any additional community involvement projects in the parks. As you
may recall, the Park Board responded to an email survey of involvement project ideas. The
results of that survey are enclosed. The projects included:
• Spring Clean-up
• Adopt -A -Park
• Park shelter building painting project
• Arbor Day tree planting project
• Neighborhood park input meetings (ice cream social)
• Verbal or handout surveys to neighbors in the parks
• Buckthorn abatement day in the park
• Special walk in the park - meet your Park Board member and neighbors day
Park Board discussion is requested on this agenda item.
PARK BOARD PARK ASSIGNMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS
A revised schedule of park assignments is included in this mailing. For the benefit of our
newest Park Board members, this park assignment list was created to encourage Park Board
members to visit their assigned parks from time to time and visit with park visitors and solicit
feedback about their views regarding the park. Park Board members should solicit visitors
for:
• Positive feedback (what they like best about the park).
• Constructive criticism (what they don't like about the park).
• What suggestions for park improvements and/or additions they would like.
Park Board members are encouraged to where their official name tag when approaching park
visitors.
The other volunteer duty as part of this assignment is to take digital photos of your assigned
parks, make notes of park amenities worthy of mentioning, and give a formal presentation at a
Park Board meeting. Park Board members should check out the Park and Recreation
Department's digital camera to take the photos. When done, simply give the camera back to
me and I will place the photos into a power point presentation for you to present at the Park
Board meeting along with your findings, notes, and comments.
Our student member, Jessica Selleck, is on the schedule for the June meeting presentation.
Her assigned parks are Tupa Park, Utley Park, Wooddale Park, and Williams Park.
I recommend Park Board discussion on this matter to decide what's next. Most Park Board
members have already taken photos and given presentations of their parks. In fact, Dave
Fredlund already took photos of and gave a presentation of the same parks now assigned to
Jessica Selleck.
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Park Board discussion is requested on this agenda item.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS MASTER PLAN
As requested by Park Board Chairman George Klus, the following future Park Board agenda
items are listed and shown with my proposed month to place the item on the Park Board
agenda in 2005:
• Bredesen Park Needs - August.
• Walking Paths and Sidewalks - September.
• Edina Conservation League Presentation - June.
Park Board consensus is requested on this specific agenda item.
UPDATES
Assistant Director Ed MacHolda and I will give the Park Board verbal updates on the
following projects.
A. Arneson Acres Park Entrance & Parking Lot.
B. Gymnasiums Proposal.
C. Gold Medal Award.
D. Maetzold Amphitheater Dedication.
E. Youth Athletic Association Presidents Meeting Results.
F. Grandview Square Park Development.
No formal action is requested on this agenda item.
OTHER
This is also an opportunity for Park Board members and residents to address other concerns.
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EDINA PARK BOARD
7:00 P.M.
EDINA COMMUNITY ROOM
EDINA CITY HALL
APRIL 12, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT: George Klus, Jeff Johnson, Mike Weiss, Mike Damman, Linda
Presthus, Jessica Selleck, Todd Fronek, Jeff Sorem, Karla Sitek
MEMBERS ABSENT: Andy Finsness
STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton, Vince Cockriel, Larry
Thayer, Tim Hunter
OTHERS PRESENT: Mike Wagner, Steve Helgren
I. APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 8.2005 PARK BOARD MINUTES
Linda Presthus MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 8, 2005 PARK BOARD
MINUTES. Jeff Johnson SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED
II. OFF -LEASH DOG PARK PROPOSAL
Mr. Keprios introduced Tim Hunter, the Edina Animal Control officer who has worked
for the city for 18 months. Mr. Keprios explained to the Park Board that Mr. Hunter
informed him that not too long ago a dog owner mentioned to him that he had a strong
interest in an off -leash dog park and would be willing to contribute some dollars. Mr.
Keprios commented that there are approximately 1,570 households with approximately
1,765 registered dogs.
Mr. Keprios noted that there is a history with the Park Board and off -leash dog park
proposals to which a feasibility study was done in 2001 and has been included in the Park
Board's packet. He commented that at that time they decided it would be in the Park
Board's best interest to wait and see what happens. He pointed out that the property they
were previously interested in is actually owned by the Minneapolis Water Works
Department. He noted that at one point the City of Minneapolis was trying to lease the
property to Edina and found out that Minneapolis Water Works wasn't quite ready to
make that commitment yet. Mr. Keprios explained that he has now been told that they
are going to make a decision this summer on the site as the result of a study they've done.
They are either going to hang on to it for several decades or they are going to sell it. Mr.
Keprios pointed out that the property is right next to Weber Park and showed the Park
Board on a map where it is located. He stated that this is still a viable option if things fall
into place. Mr. Keprios indicated that he thinks they are now done waiting and with the
great opportunity that is facing them they should take advantage of it and not wait for
Minneapolis to make their decision.
Mr. Keprios explained that the feasibility study that was done in 2001 identified some
areas where they could possibly put a dog park. However, none of them were ideal but at
least they are every bit as good if not better than what St. Louis Park is doing to which
they've had phenomenal success. He noted that in their first year they had 130 plus
people buy $25.00 passes and have had no complaints, it's been very positive. Mr.
Hunter pointed out that in all of the research he has done everyone has had similar
descriptions in terms of initial fears having a dog park but when it has become a reality
there really have been very few issues.
Mr. Hunter pointed out that there was a dog park in California that was concerned about
liability and over the course of the past seven years it has averaged almost 3/4 of a million
dogs to which they have not received one complaint in those entire seven years. He
noted that information came directly from their City Attorney's office.
Mr. Klus indicated that in the past they talked about having volunteers help man the parks
and asked if that would still be part of the proposal. Mr. Keprios responded that the way
it works in other communities is they are self -policing and have found that it actually
does work. He noted that maintenance staff will maintain the grass and be sure that the
garbage is disposed of frequently as well as make sure the fence is in good working
order.
Mr. Keprios noted that one site they looked at in the 2001 study was Van Valkenburg
Park because it's a non-residential area so noise shouldn't be an issue. He indicated that
it's not centrally located; however, it does have just over two acres of property at that
location. He also commented that it does have a pond in the center of it to which they
may or may not want to have it encircled by a fence. Mr. Keprios pointed out that he
asked Mr. Cockriel to find out what the linear footage is and what it would cost to put up
a fence. He noted that to add to what is already there it would cost approximately
$10,000. He stated that if they have a donor who's willing to come up with $5,000 they
could provide matching funds within their operating budget. Mr. Keprios commented
that he thinks they could make this happen right away with the Park Board and City
Council's blessing.
Ms. Presthus stated that she remembers, since the last time they talked about this, that
Chief Siitari was pretty much against it and was concerned about who would respond to
emergency calls particularly because we were working with Minneapolis and St. Louis
Park. She asked if Chief Siitari has any concerns about this new site. Mr. Hunter replied
that Chief Siitari has pretty much left this in his lap and hasn't expressed anything
specifically. However, he hasn't shown him a plan pending what kind of an agreement
they come to. Mr. Hunter explained that the way it typically works in other
municipalities is it still falls under the jurisdiction of animal control. He noted that as an
example Bloomington and Eden Prairie have both year round sites and seasonal sites and
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historically calls for service at those locations are negligible compared to other calls they
receive for service.
Ms. Presthus commented that in the past they talked about having some type of alarm
device placed at the dog park. Mr. Hunter responded that he personally wouldn't have a
concern with that for the simple fact that they already have multiple individuals using the
parks at various times and if incidents were to happen there are no current points of
communication. For example, if they were to have three individuals running their dog at
Pamela Park without his knowledge he's not able to address or respond to that because
they currently don't have any additional points of communication. He noted that by
having a dog park it won't change the status quo they would still have the same options
of using a cell phone and/or driving to the location for service. Ms. Presthus pointed out
that her only concern is it's illegal to run your dog in all of the other parks. Therefore, is
this something we are sanctioning where we could have a potential liability if something
were to happen. Mr. Hunter commented that looking at historical data from other sites
this wouldn't be a concern. Mr. Damman stated that he brought that question up in 2001
to which he believes the answer the city attorney gave was it's no more of a concern than
someone falling down at a park. Mr. Gilligan made it quite clear that it's covered and not
an issue.
Mr. Damman asked Mr. Cockriel whether or not he's concerned with the pond and asked
whether or not it should be fenced in and, if not, would dogs be allowed to go into the
water. He also asked if the water is good for something or is it just run-off. Mr. Cockriel
replied that it's a water retention pond and the depth varies over different times of the
year. He noted that he and Mr. Keprios did discuss this and it would be his guess that
probably at some point they would fence it in with an entrance gate. He noted that
personally if he was running his dogs he would want access to it; however, there are
people who prefer that their dogs didn't go in the water. He stated that it would be easy
to have the area gated off.
Mr. Fronek asked how does the Van Valkenburg Park site compare to other parks within
Edina. Mr. Hunter replied that, if they were to average all of the sites, Van Valkenburg
Park would be one of an average size. He noted that all of the parks have different
qualities and aspects to them. Mr. Hunter explained that he thinks Van Valkenburg Park
shares a lot of the qualities that he would want in a dog park if he were able to landscape
it from scratch. However, to compare Van Valkenburg Park to a lot of the other parks is
really difficult because many of the parks carry different qualities and added that cities
need to work with the land they have.
Mr. Sorem asked if they know how much money this person is willing to donate. Mr.
Hunter responded that his thought is rather than contacting this individual he would like
to send out a mailing to the entire list of registered dog owners being that so many of
them have been asking for a dog park. He stated that he thinks to go to just one person
would limit their opportunities and by putting it out there and asking people if they are
willing to donate it might just give them enough to look at a second site if the first one
works out to be a success.
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Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Hunter how he would keep track of who has a permit, would he
use an orange tag or something like that. Mr. Hunter replied that he would do a separate
tag and make it distinct as well as mark non-resident tags. He noted that a lot of other
cities do this as well as they charge a higher rate for non-residents to access the park.
Mr. Klus asked Mr. Hunter how often he thinks he's going to have to actually monitor the
park to be sure that people really are paying to use it. Mr. Hunter responded that he
would do it just as he does now by going on regular patrols which gives him an
opportunity to talk to the dog owners. He noted that in talking with the animal control
officers in Bloomington and Minneapolis by and large they do their regular patrols
through the areas just to make sure everything is okay. In addition if they see any dogs
that are not permitted a citation is issued. Mr. Klus asked that in order to get a permit do
the dogs need to be licensed in the City of Edina to which Mr. Hunter replied that all
dogs are currently required to be licensed by city ordinance. He noted that with non-
residents he would strongly recommend that they take care of that within their own city.
Mr. Hunter commented that some rule of thumb common sense things are no dogs will be
allowed in the park if they are registered as dangerous or potentially dangerous, all shots
must be up-to-date and all owners/handlers must at least have verbal control over their
animals as well as be able to intervene should any of the dogs not get along. Mr. Klus
asked what percentage of dogs in this city are actually licensed to which Mr. Hunter
replied it's approximately 40%.
Ms. Presthus clarified that it was stated that rather than using an individual donor Mr.
Hunter would prefer to send out a notice and ask for contributions if people are willing to
donate. Mr. Hunter replied that is correct. Ms. Presthus stated that she has a concern
with that because in order to put in $10,000 worth of fencing with matching funds how
will we know what amount of funds will be coming in. Mr. Hunter stated that they can
certainly modify the terms and how do word notification because there are a lot of
different ways they can handle it. Mr. Keprios pointed out that he would like to take the
approach of getting the Edina Community Foundation involved. He noted that it's not
good practice for the city to get involved in soliciting funds from its residents. Mr.
Keprios asked Mr. Hunter if he had one donor in particular that would be willing to
donate to get the dog park up and running on a matching basis. Mr. Hunter replied that
he would have to get in touch with the individual he spoke with to see where that person
now stands. He stated that he wanted to put this on the table as an option so that they are
not relying on any one source because in previous situations he has found that relying on
one source is tenuous at best.
Mr. Keprios asked Mr. Hunter to talk a little bit about the hockey rink concept and how
that works to which Mr. Hunter replied he hasn't had a chance to look at them yet. Mr.
Keprios noted that might be an easy one after he does some research and the Van
Valkenburg Park site gets up and running. He added that with the hockey rinks they
could probably implement it right away and it could be at more than just one site.
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Mr. Keprios indicated that it's staff recommendation to limit at least the first year to
residents only because he doesn't know what kind of take they are going to get. Mr. Klus
commented that he doesn't know how they would be able to do that to which Mr. Keprios
replied it's just his recommendation because not knowing what kind of numbers there
will be is the only thing that scares him. Mr. Hunter noted that he thinks at any one time
they could accommodate a large number of users in the park. Mr. Keprios indicated that
if the Park Board wants to include non-residents he would recommend that they go with
the same pricing that St. Louis Park does which is double the price of a resident.
Mr. Klus noted that Mr. Keprios' memo states "It is staff's recommendation to approve
Van Valkenburg Park as an interim off -leash dog park site on the condition that half of
the dollars for the fencing are donated. In addition, staff recommends a resident only trial
fee of $25.00 per year". Mr. Klus commented that the only other thing they might want
to add to it is to offer it to non-residents for $50.00 per year. Mr. Keprios added that he
would like to expand on one point where he uses the term intentionally because if they
are going to get a donor of $5,000 or more and it fits within the donations policy they can
give permanent recognition. Mr. Keprios stated that if they find out three years down the
road that it doesn't work for whatever reason the city reserves the right to eliminate that
as a dog park and whatever the donor gave for fencing remains as city property and could
be placed at a different park. Mr. Klus asked Mr. Keprios if he is asking the term interim
mean a period of three years.
Ms. Presthus asked is this something where they will build and hope donations come in
or do they get money from the Edina Foundation hoping that it will be covered by future
donations. She stated that it is staff's recommendation that the fencing be donated so
what comes first fencing or donations. Mr. Keprios stated there are two different things
going on not to be confused. First, Mr. Hunter has a single donor to which he doesn't
want to rely on that one person. Mr. Hunter stated that he can contact that person to see
where they still stand on it. He noted that historically he likes relying on multiple sources
but he's open to recommendations in terms of what will work to get the dog park up and
running. Mr. Keprios indicated that he would recommend that Mr. Hunter first go to the
single source and if the funds are still there then make the request and offer to do
matching funds. He noted that it would still be run through the Edina Foundation in
order to get a tax deduction and the proper recognition on the plaque at the site. Mr.
Keprios stated that secondly if they find the park to be successful then they need to start
another dialog about adding another off -leash dog park in the city. Mr. Keprios stated
that they are not going to break ground until all of the money is in the bank to which Ms.
Presthus replied that was not in the motion but that's her question.
Todd Fronek MOVED TO APPROACH THE EDINA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION
ON GIVEN THAT WE CAN GET FUNDING WE WILL AGREE THAT WE WILL
BUILD THE INTERIM DOG OFF -LEASH PARK AT VAN VALKENBURG PARK
ON THE CONDITION THAT WE WILL MATCH IT. IF THEY CAN COME UP
WITH $5,000 OR WHATEVER HALF IS THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO BUILD
THE OFF -LEASH DOG PARK.
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Karla Sitek SECONDED THE MOTION.
Mr. Keprios asked the Park Board if they want to address the non-resident issue now or is
that a separate issue.
Todd Fronek AMENDED HIS MOTION TO INCLUDE BOTH RESIDENTS AND
NON-RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS PAYING AT A $25.00 FEE AND NON-RESIDENTS
A $50.00 FEE.
Karla Sitek SECONDED THE AMENDMENT.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Mr. Keprios thanked Mr. Hunter for all of his work on this project and noted that it is
very much appreciated.
III. LEWIS PARK HOCKEY RINK PROPOSAL
Mr. Keprios introduced Mike Wagner, current President of the Edina Hockey Association
(EHA) and Steve Helgren, Ice Coordinator for EHA as well as Larry Thayer, Manager of
Braemar Ice Arena. Mr. Keprios recapped that at the last Park Board meeting the
recommendation made was to put in a hockey rink at Todd Park and to not put $40,000
into the hockey rink at Countryside Park. It was decided to put the hockey rink back at
Countryside Park once they have the dollars to redo a master plan and replace the hockey
rink in the proper north/south orientation. Mr. Keprios indicated that per the Park
Board's request he has sent out a memo to the residents of Todd Park informing them that
the Park Board is going to put their final stamp of approval on this and are requesting the
residents input on this concept. He added that he has already received three responses
which were all positive.
Mr. Keprios stated that also discussed at last month's Park Board meeting was the
possibility of adding a second rink at Lewis Park. He noted that they also talked about
the idea of putting a cover over one of them and perhaps have it double as a picnic shelter
during the summer months. Mr. Keprios indicated that he met with Mr. Thayer, Mr.
Wagner and Mr. Helgren and discussed how the city could better serve EHA's program
needs. It was noted that if EHA's projections are correct they should have approximately
1,225 skaters. Mr. Keprios indicated that they discussed what EHA's true program needs
are and it was decided that what they really need is a great practice venue that they can
count on during the hockey season. He pointed out that they talked about putting
something at Braemar but decided that it would be too expensive because they would
have to put in retaining walls etc., and it didn't seem to make sense financially. Mr.
Keprios explained that they then came up with the idea of putting something at Lewis
Park that could double as a picnic shelter with portable hockey boards. He noted that
they could also put down a concrete slab which would continue to leave the door open for
artificial refrigeration and felt this is an idea they should explore.
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Mr. Keprios indicated that he is asking for the Park Board's support of the concept to
explore a permanent structure with open ends. In addition, look at the feasibility of
putting one of Braemar's propane ice re -surfacer machines at Lewis Park which would
guarantee good ice a little longer in the season, however, not a tremendous additional
amount unless they were to put in artificial refrigeration. Mr. Keprios stated that what he
is recommending is that they do a feasibility study and hire a professional to see what
different options they could do as well as what each scenario would cost. Mr. Keprios
pointed out that it's going to cost money to get answers to a lot of their questions and that
is why he has asked EHA if they would be willing to fund the consultants study to get
them off of square one.
Mr. Johnson commented that Lewis Park is heavily used by non-residents and therefore
he would like to see the EHA mite program fill up the ice time as much as they can. In
addition, that rink will be a little more regulated because it will have a Zamboni driver.
Mr. Klus asked if they would potentially be adding staff to Lewis Park to which Mr.
Johnson replied possibly. Mr. Johnson noted that in the long run it's going to be much
better than trying to put in a fourth sheet of ice at Braemar.
Mr. Keprios stated that he really applauds Mr. Thayer's recommendations on this topic in
that we should take baby steps and not necessarily jump in with a refrigeration system.
Wait and see what they get out of a roof and an ice re -surfacer machine first because they
can always add a portable system in the future.
Mr. Wagner pointed out that it would be very helpful to EHA if they could migrate some
of their mite program to an outdoor sheet of ice that they can depend on. He noted that
ultimately they would love to have refrigeration, however, if the budget is not there just
having a cover over the ice and an ice re -surfacer would certainly be a great help.
Mr. Klus asked Mr. Helgren and Mr. Wagner how much EHA would be willing to
contribute towards this. Mr. Wagner replied that he has no idea what it would cost to do
a feasibility study like this. He indicated that he knows where their budget is and what
they have available and that they certainly would be willing to help with the process. Mr.
Keprios commented that he also doesn't know how much the feasibility study would cost
but would like to get a request for proposal and submit it to a couple of different firms
and see who comes in the most competitive.
Ms. Sitek commented that EHA definitely needs another sheet of ice soon because with
the addition of the girls program everything has doubled and it's only going to get worse.
She noted that obviously the perfect thing would be to add a fourth sheet of ice at
Braemar but given that isn't going to happen right now this would be a very good
alternative as long as the ice is good.
Mr. Fronek indicated that he thinks it's great to add ice anywhere they can and noted that
they may want to even look at other parks. He commented that Pamela Park has some
places where they could add a bigger skating area. He noted that he doesn't see a
problem with Lewis Park but maybe they should pursue other options.
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Mr. Sorem asked what type of hourly rental fees would they be looking at because people
would definitely pay to use that ice. Mr. Keprios replied that there would definitely be a
rental charge. Mr. Wagner stated that EHA would absolutely pay an hourly rental fee.
Mr. Keprios commented that he thinks if they charge a rental fee as well as program the
rink properly the non-resident issue at Lewis Park should go away.
Mr. Klus asked Mr. Thayer what he thinks about this concept to which Mr. Thayer
replied that there is no question that there is a need by the EHA. Mr. Thayer noted that
with an ice re -surfacer and protection from the sun is a very good first step. Having
anything on a more permanent basis is going to cost a lot more money. Mr. Klus asked
Mr. Thayer about the ice re -surfacer to which he replied their fourth re -surfacer is rarely
used and therefore it could be incorporated right now.
Mr. Klus asked Mr. Cockriel how he feels about this concept and staff wise would he be
able to support what needs to be done for those few months. Mr. Cockriel replied if they
are looking at his staff to run an ice re -surfacer 12 hours a day for 7 days a week then yes
he does have issues. Mr. Cockriel stated that as far as workload there are no issues, they
can handle it whether it's one sheet of ice or two. Mr. Keprios commented that he thinks
it's fair to assume that Mr. Cockriel's staff would build the ice and get a base and that
they would hire a warming house attendant and train that person to drive the ice re -
surfacer. He noted that they will not have a full-time staff person sit at the park all day
the drive the ice re -surfacer.
Ms. Presthus indicated that she would really like to see someone seriously research the
refrigeration systems that are out because in St. Paul she has seen it work and it works
well. Therefore, if they are going to do a feasibility study they really should add that
piece into it. Mr. Keprios replied that he thinks that will be part of the feasibility study to
which they could maybe give us some ballpark numbers.
Mr. Klus indicated that he thinks Mr. Keprios is looking for a motion tonight to proceed
with this concept so that he can move ahead and work on getting a feasibility study. He
noted that once they receive the data they can then take the next step.
Mr. Wagner asked if it would help the Park Board if EHA would commit to a certain
amount of funds to which Mr. Klus replied he doesn't know at this time what that dollar
amount will be. Mr. Klus commented that it's hard to ask for money when they don't
know how much they need to ask for. Mr. Keprios commented that he thinks it would
cost approximately $5,000 to $7,000 to get the job done. Mr. Klus stated that he doesn't
think they need to put a dollar amount on it and noted that at this time the Park Board can
support it in concept. Mr. Fronek asked if they need to authorize staff to put out a request
for purchase.
Linda Presthus MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE PARK AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT TO GO AHEAD WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE
CONCEPT OF LOOKING AT LEWIS PARK FOR AN ICE RINK, SHELTER
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FEASIBILITY PROGRAM. AND REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND WORK WITH
THE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION TO HELP FUND IT.
Karla Sitek SECONDED THE MOTION.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
IV. PARK BOARD COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PROJECTS
Mr. Klus informed the Park Board that the results from the survey that Mr. Keprios sent
out indicate that the Park Board community involvement project will be planting trees on
Arbor Day at Cornelia School Park. He noted that Arbor Day is Friday, April 290' and
the tree planting will take place at 10:00 am. Mr. Klus asked the Park Board members to
try to attend this event if their work schedules permit. Mr. Keprios commented that if
any of the Park Board members do not want to do any physical labor that's okay but
would still like for them to attend so that the community can meet their Park Board
members.
Mr. Klus thanked everyone for their input on the survey and noted that he would like to
see these suggestions on future agendas. He noted that maybe later in the year they can
move ahead with another project. Therefore, they will put this back on next month's
agenda.
V. UPDATES
A. Koietin Park — Mr. MacHolda informed the Park Board that the bid opening on the
Kojetin Park playground was held on March 22"d and the low bid came in just under
$108,000. He noted that Koolmo Construction will be doing the project and will start on
it in mid-June.
B. Gymnasium Proposal — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that the Planning
Commission has recommended unanimously to approve the conditional use permit to
which that recommendation will go before the City Council on April 19th. Mr. Keprios
informed the Park Board that the Edina Community Center neighborhood committee will
be showing up at the meeting because they are going to try to do everything they can to
kill it. He stated that he has sent an e-mail to the users groups to show up in numbers at
the City Council meeting if they want to see this pass. Ms. Presthus asked what is the
issue with the neighborhood committee to which Mr. Keprios replied it's traffic and
safety. He explained that the traffic study that was done shows that there is going to be
an increase in traffic; however, the traffic engineer study doesn't suggest any major
changes to roads or signs needed as a result of the increase in traffic. Mr. Klus asked Mr.
Keprios how he feels about this to which he replied he is under the impression that the
City Council is very supportive of the project.
Mr. Klus asked about the cost to which Mr. Keprios replied that it has gone from 5.3
million to 4.7 million thanks to Mr. Johnson and his fellow JPOC members for making
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some tough value engineering decisions. However, it might go as high as 4.9 million if
the add alternate is accepted which would be to put the concession stand back in at the
school district's expense. Mr. Keprios added that he thinks this is very functional and is
going to fit the program to which they can be very proud of their elected officials for this.
Ms. Presthus indicated that she has been getting hit left and right with a block of
negatives that has really irritated her. She noted that somewhere the community doesn't
know that they have looked at every site and piece of property in the city for years about
how this could be done. She stated that people think the city just jumped on this because
the school sold us a bill of goods, however, that's not the case and that's not how it came
about. Ms. Presthus commented that maybe they need to put something in the Sun
Newspaper. Mr. Johnson stated that maybe they should send a letter to the editor saying
they have been working on this for years and it was done right, we need to state the facts.
Mr. Klus stated he would be willing to sign his name on a letter to the editor if staff could
help him with all of the facts on everything that has been done. Mr. Keprios pointed out
that for what it's worth the most important thing to do at this point is for the proponents
to show up at the City Council meeting on April 19. It's important to have support in the
audience because that's going to mean a lot more than a letter to the editor.
C. Grandview Square — Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that they are $10,000 short
on donations. He noted that the proposal Mr. Crockett made a couple of days ago was if
Ron Clark Construction and Opus put their committed dollars into the Edina Community
Foundation bank account, then the Edina Community Foundation will commit to raising
the remaining $10,000 that they are short by approaching business and residents of the
Grandview Square development. Mr. Keprios noted that they will break ground as soon
as the dollars are in the bank and they've got a signed contract.
D. Term Limits — Mr. Klus informed the Park Board that the City Council has passed
term limits. Mr. Keprios explained that they passed a nine year maximum that anyone
can serve on a board or commission consecutively. However, there is a stipulation that if
someone has ended their ninth year and there are no qualified candidates that person can
continue to serve. Mr. Keprios commented that there was also a recommendation to limit
the length of the chairmanship to three years. The suggested term of the chair was not
adopted as policy, just a recommendation.
VI. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS MASTER PLAN
A. Bredesen Park Needs - Mr. Klus noted that at Bredesen Park the water quality people
have done a great job in getting rid of the duckweed. He stated that there are a lot of
people who live around Bredesen Park who care a lot about it. Mr. Klus added that Mr.
Cockriel's staff has done some resurfacing in the last couple of years that is now a really
nice path. He pointed out that Dr. Hulbert was the person who brought this forward and
wanted it to be looked at. Mr. Klus asked Mr. Cockriel if he has some insight on where
he sees the vision of Bredesen Park going and what we are doing there. Mr. Cockriel
replied that they have replaced another 1,000 feet of fencing within the last month as it
relates to the interior nature part of it. He explained that their plans this year are to
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resurface some of the bad areas around the walking and biking trails. He noted that
because of the soil that is there all of the black top has floated on fabric so there is no
certain way to ever resurface it and have it last 20 years. Therefore, it will always be an
ongoing maintenance issue as far as keeping the path free of cracks. Mr. Cockriel stated
that they have also replaced the restroom stalls within the building. Mr. Klus asked if
those restrooms are on a timer to which Mr. Keprios replied not but that they will be
soon. Mr. Keprios noted that he has proposed that Bredesen Park be put on the August
Park Board agenda.
Mr. Klus asked Mr. Keprios what agenda will the walking paths and sidewalks be put on
to which Mr. Keprios replied that will be a September agenda item.
Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that Janice Carter, a member of the Edina
Conservation League, gave Mr. Cockriel, Mr. Houle and himself a rather lengthy power
point presentation. The presentation showed all of the testing results and all of the graphs
that they've been doing to which they had several recommendations for the city. He
noted that they wanted the Park Board tonight to take action on one of their
recommendations which is to put signage around Lake Cornelia in both English and
Russian stating "Don't Eat the Fish". Mr. Keprios explained that a few of the other
recommendations included having the city take over all of the testing of the lakes and
hiring an engineer to study the water run-off from the streets. He stated that Mr. Houle
explained to her what the jurisdictions are as well as who is in charge of what.
Mr. Keprios explained that at the end of the presentation they agreed that they had some
great ideas but they should serve more as a community advocacy group to educate the
people who live around these bodies and teach them about the importance of creating and
maintaining buffers. He pointed out that the Edina Conservation League should be a
community advocacy group with their main purpose being to educate homeowners about
the benefits of clean water. The Edina Conservation League should educate homeowners
on how to create better buffers and do better lawn management that is more
environmentally friendly. Mr. Keprios noted that he thinks that is the agreement that they
came to. He indicated that Ms. Carter was going to bring this back to her activist group
to see if they support those ideas.
Mr. Klus commented that he discussed this with Mr. Keprios and felt that they really
didn't need to take an hour of the Park Board's time. He noted that he thinks the Park
Board should gather the report and review it as a board and then make a consensus on
what the Park Board feels is important for them to hear from the Edina Conservation
League. Mr. Keprios pointed out that the actions they were asking of the Park Board are
out of the Park Board's jurisdiction; however, he does think it would be good public
relations to listen and let them educate us. He indicated that maybe the Park Board can
make some suggestions on how their efforts could be well spent and make it a positive
because they are well intentioned. Mr. Keprios asked the Park Board if they would allow
him to tell the Edina Conservation League that they have their support and would invite
them to attend the June Park Board meeting. Mr. Klus noted that he would be fine with
that as long as they stay within the parameter that is set for them.
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B. Athletic Association President's Meeting - Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that
tomorrow night at 6:00 pm in the Mayor's Conference Room there will be a meeting with
all of the athletic association presidents. He noted that they have a pretty refined agenda
which consists of talking about facilities and overlapping seasons. Ms. Presthus
suggested to Mr. Keprios that he mention that they may want to attend the City Council
meeting. Mr. Keprios replied that he will mention that. He also invited any Park Board
members who are interested to attend tomorrow night's meeting.
C. Vince Cockriel's Staff - Mr. Keprios noted that he would really like to compliment
Mr. Cockriel's staff and the job they did this past winter. He indicated that Edina had
their outdoor ice rinks open longer than anyone else in the Twin Cities area. He stated
that they did an incredible job and he received many compliments this year on the great
ice that they had and wanted the record to reflect this.
D. Edina Police Department/Walnut Ridge Park - Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board
that they have had someone continually breaking into Walnut Ridge Park and leaving
beer cans, pot pipes, etc. He noted they were unable to figure out how they were able to
get into the building without breaking anything. He stated that the Police Department
used a portable alarm system and were able to catch these kids right away so hats off to
the Police Department who did a stellar job. Two Edina resident juveniles were arrested
that evening and brought to the Police Station with charges pending.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
Jeff Sorem MOVED TO AJOURN THE MEETING AT 8:45 P.M. Karla Sitek
SECONDED. MEETING ADJOURNED.
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John Keprios
From: NBWebster@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:45 AM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Response to Todd Park Inquiry
Sir:
I received your memo regarding the proposal to rebuild the ice rink at Todd Park and am
responding to you as requested.
My husband and I have resided in the Brookside-Thielen neighborhood for over twenty-three
years. During most of that time we raised two children who enjoyed years of the Todd Park
ice rink - even when it was in its worst condition. The rink as well as the whole park (tennis
courts, baseball field, open field, and running path) is a real asset to our community.
Edina spent good and welcomed dollars to build a warming/recreation cottage; I am unsure
how often it is used. Rebuilding the ice rink might very well make better use of the building
than letting it sit empty for much of the year. I am willing to support the installation of a good,
save, and well maintained rink so that other generations of neighborhood children can enjoy
this asset.
Thank you for examining the need for rejuvenating the Todd Park rink.
Sincererly,
Nancy B Webster
4381 Thielen Avenue
Edina MN 55436
952-929-3971
5/3/2005
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John Keprios
From: NBWebster@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:51 AM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park
I forgot to add to my response to your request for Todd Park rink support.
PLEASE don't just make it a hockey rink. Recreational skating is enjoyed by many of us
adults as well as children. Hockey isn't the only game that can be played on ice - broom ball
and spink - non -skate games are played, too!
Nancy B Webster
5/3/2005
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
Office (952) 826-0430
FAX (952) 826-0385
Jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Memo
To: NEIGHBORS OF TOAD
From: John Keprios, Direc r
CC: Edina Park Board U
Date: April 7, 2005
Re: PROPOSED HOCKEY RINK AT TODD PARK.
At the February Park Board meeting, the Park Board voted to consider a proposal to place an outdoor hockey
rink back at Todd Park. I say "back at Todd Park" because several years ago there used to be an outdoor
hockey rink where the existing light poles are currently in place. Before making a final decision, the Park Board
would like your input on the proposal.
There are a number of reasons why the Park Board is considering placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park.
Placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park will help meet the demand for organized outdoor hockey rink practice
time. There is also a desire to take advantage of the beautiful park shelter building at Todd Park that is
underutilized during the winter months. Due to Todd Park's location, placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park
will likely attract mainly Edina residents and serve the immediate neighborhood.
If a hockey rink were placed back at Todd Park, it would be subject to the same reservation policy in place for
all other outdoor hockey rinks in Edina parks. In other words, the hockey rink could be reserved by Edina
resident groups for scheduled uses from 6:00 p.m. to 9:15 p.m. weekday evenings; and 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.
on Saturdays; and 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Sundays. The only exception to the policy is that the Edina Hockey
Association is allowed to reserve additional scheduled times on Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. All Edina
outdoor hockey rinks remain unscheduled and open to public use from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. on weekdays.
To provide your input on this proposal, the Park Board welcomes you to submit your comments in writing
either by email or fax or letter to me at the address and information listed above. You are also welcome to
attend the Park Board meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 10, 2005, at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room (2` d
floor in City Hall). Thank you in advance for your input. It is greatly appreciated.
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John Keprios
From: m.e.woolsey@att.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:52 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Support of Todd Park Hockey Rink
In response to your April 7 '05 Memo, regarding the proposal to place an outdoor hockey rink at Todd
Park, please consider this as our support.
I feel that all of the reasons listed in the memo are valid. We enjoy the park, especially the warming
house when skating at the informal rink. A nicer hockey rink would be a great addition.
Mike Woolsey
4536 Rutledge Ave
Edina MN 55436
922-0487
4/12/2005
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John Keprios
From: Steve Spellman [sspellman@mn.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:11 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park Hockey Rink
We would fully support the proposal to place an outdoor hockey rink back at Todd Park!!!! Currently our family
drives to Highland Park to use their facility, but would much prefer to stay in our own neighborhood.
We have often wondered why Todd Park has been slighted in the past, and encourage the City of Edina to accept
this proposal, so as to better utilize the nice, new warming house that the city has already invested in at Todd
Park.
Thanks for the consideration.
Deb and Steve Spellman
4608 Cascade Ln.
Edina, MN
952-920-2560
4/12/2005
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John Keprios
From: Susan Engen [susengen@mn.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:11 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park ice rink
As residents of the Todd Park neighborhood we support the rink and look forward to seeing children using the
facilities. Thanks!
John and Susan Engen
4/12/2005
John Keprios
From: David Musolf [dmusolf@thinkgreer.com]
ent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:37 PM
o: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park
Dear John,
I received your note regarding a proposed hockey rink at Todd Park. I'm all
for it. As a hockey player and father of two boys who will be in the Edina
hockey system, I was disappointed that there was not a hockey rink there
this year. I support the effort 100%.
Best,
David Musolf
4504 Brookside Ave.
Edina, MN 55436
David Musolf
Business Development
Greer & Associates
dmusolf@thinkgreer.com
612-338-6171 x236
www.thinkgreer.com
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John Keprios
From: John Keprios
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:24 PM
To: 'J C NANCY NICHOLS'
Subject: RE: proposed hockey rink at Todd Park
Hello Nancy and Jack:
Thank you for your email. I will make a copy of your email for the Park Board members. Your
input is greatly appreciated.
Respectfully,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 W. 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424
Voice: (952) 826-0430
Fax: (952) 826-0385
jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: J C NANCY NICHOLS [mailto:jcnanc@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:26 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Re: proposed hockey rink at Todd Park
We live right up the street from Todd Park, and are concerned about the noise and traffic
from the hockey groups, especially when they are leaving after 9:00 p.m. weekdays. Other
than that, we do not have objections to the proposal.
Nancy and Jack Nichols
4524 Parkside Lane
4/18/2005
John Keprios
To: Mayank Jain
,abject: RE: Proposed Hockey rink at Todd Park
Mayank:
Thank you very much for your input. I will make copies of your email to provide to all
Park Board members. Much appreciated.
Thanks again,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 W. 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424
Voice: (952) 826-0430
Fax: (952) 826-0385
jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: Mayank Jain [mailto:mjain70@gmail.coml
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:13 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Proposed Hockey rink at Todd Park
Dear Mr. Keprios,
Thanks for taking inputs from the residents of Edina living near Todd
ark on this issue.
stay on Parkside Lane and am able to take my little twins walking
without any hassle because there are few cars parked, few people
around.
I feel opening the rink will take away the ease of just being able to
walk with little kids without worrying too much about traffic. In
addition, it will make it crowded and busy.
Given a vote, I would therefore vote AGAINST the hockey rink at Todd park.
Regards
Mayank
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John Keprios
To: Janet Ha
Subject: RE: Hockey at Todd Park
Janet:
Thank you for your email. I will make copies of this for the Park Board.
See you Tuesday night!
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 W. 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424
Voice: (952) 826-0430
Fax: (952) 826-0385
jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: Janet Ha [mailto:jha@mn.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:58 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Hockey at Todd Park
May 8, 2005
Dear John,
Thank you for asking for input on the proposed plan to add hockey at Todd Park. As
homeowners living directly across the street from the park, we are strongly opposed to this idea
for the following reasons:
1) There is no parking or drop-off circle at Todd Park. Parents waiting to drop off and pick
up their youngsters would be idling on the street and creating a significant traffic hazard.
2) The lighting from the ice rink is directed at our bedroom windows. This is tolerable two
or three nights a week but would be unwelcome every night.
3) Ice rink maintenance takes place around 4:30 am and is extremely noisy now, as it
involves trucks reversing and blaring of back up alarms. A hockey rink would increase
this disturbance unreasonably.
In addition I find it curious that your letter cites "due to Todd Park's location,...a hockey rink
will likely attract mainly residents and serve the immediate neighborhood" since this park sustains
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a steady stream of drive-by basketball and softball playing in the warm months. I don't believe
these people have been surveyed, but it would be my estimate that at least half come from St.
Louis Park, which the park borders, and Minneapolis. My informal queries at the playground
have taught me that many families from the Brookside neighborhood of St. Louis Park use Todd
Park regularly. Since your stated purpose is to "help meet the demand for hockey rink practice
time" and this demand is coming largely from outside the area it is clear that your assertion is
false, and we residents would bear the brunt of the increased noise, traffic and disturbance that a
hockey rink in this small park would inevitably bring from outside the neighborhood. We
residents already put up with people from outside the neighborhood parking on the street, playing
basketball, softball, baseball and sometimes golf (which is not allowed, but not enforced) during
the warm months, with no parking area or soundproofing and inadequate fencing so that people
chase balls up our lawns as it is. Must we be burdened during the winter months too? The usable
area of Todd Park is very small, and it is absolutely unacceptable that this neighborhood park
should be forced to serve the needs of the entire community.
In summary, I would urge the Park Board members to spend some time at the park during the
day and ask the people who use the park what we would like to see. This park is in constant use
from early morning until late at night all year round. Instead of forcing us to take on the burden of
the use you deem practical, I would rather see a winter playground program during school break
or after school since this neighborhood has far more young children than hockey players. The
park shelter building would be an excellent base for ecology based winter nature programs, rather
than increasing the destruction to the park and fragile creek watershed. This neighborhood has
demonstrated our willingness to help with buckthorn elimination and park upkeep. I urge you to
respect our position and not commit the immoral act of bringing hockey to our park.
Thank you for your attention. I look forward to attending the meeting on May 10th.
Sincerely,
Janet Ha
4500 Parkside Lane
jha@mn.rr.com
5/9/2005
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John Keprios
From: Tim Livingston [timlivingston@visi.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:33 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Proposed Hockey Rink at Todd Park
Dear Mr. Keprios,
I appreciate your memo regarding the proposed Hockey rink at Todd Park. As much as I would like to
see additional activity during the winter months at Todd Park, I do not agree that placing a permanent
structure in the park is the way to go about achieving that goal.
I am not -in favor of placing a hockey rink at Todd Park. It would greatly impact the natural beauty of
the open space all year long. It would hinder the use of the park during the months when a wide open
space is appealing for playing ball, flying kites and having neighborhood get-togethers. We have had
several neighborhood events, attended by many residents, where the open space is well used for hunting
for eggs, or playing soccer.
The ice-skating season at Todd Park has been mid- to late December until mid-February. That is two
months of usage at best. To impact the park so greatly by placing a permanent structure in the middle of
it that would be used for only two months of the year is not a good use of the space.
As for using the shelter building during the winter, consider offering park programs during the school
breaks, or a weekly preschool nature program. I think there are many creative ways to use the building
for the public. I also believe that if the rental fee were lowered, you would generate more private usage.
I continue to believe that the public shelter building should be open and free to public use for events that
are held for the neighborhood residents. That would provide real and immediate value to the residents,
without cost to the city.
And in fact, we only know that the building is underutilized during the time when it is staffed. As for
how many younger children are skating during the day, or how many people come during the unstaffed
time on evenings or weekends, I'm sure there is no way of counting. I do know that my family skated
there several times this past season, and the building was staffed on only two of those occasions.
Please do not change the wonderful wide open space that we enjoy so much throughout the year at Todd
Park. Thank you for the opportunity to provide input regarding this proposal.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Livingston, 4544 Parkside Lane
5/5/2005
Todd Park Hockey Rink
John Keprios
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From: Christensen, John M (GE Consumer & Industrial) [John.Christensen@lighting.ge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:28 AM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park Hockey Rink
Importance: High
Mr. Keprios,
I am writing to you today to express my strong support for placing a hockey rink at Todd Park.
My wife Amy and I have lived on Rutledge Avenue, less than a block up the street from Todd Park, for four years.
When we first moved in to the neighborhood, I perceived there to be only a handful of kids living on our immediate
street. Since that time, we have had two children of our own. On Rutledge Avenue alone, there are now no fewer
than 15 kids, all of whom we see passing our home on their way to the park. In our time here, we have seen our
neighborhood become one that is active with the sound of kids playing all up and down the street.
The replacement of a hockey rink at Todd Park will serve several beneficial purposes. First, it will help to make
better use of the magnificent warming house - a facility which is sadly under-utilized. Second, it will help Todd
Park to serve more fully as a year-round gathering spot for the families of this youthful neighborhood. And lastly,
it will provide a free, full service public skating and hockey facility for children and adults in a neighborhood which
does not currently have convenient access to such a spot.
I urge the Park Board to vote in the affirmative in regard to this matter. It is a small expense which will reap
rewards for many years to come, not only for the immediate neighborhood, but for the City of Edina as a whole.
Thank You!
John M. Christensen
Amy Christensen
Beck Christensen
Laine Christensen
4520 Rutledge Avenue
Edina, MN 55436
952-848-7759
5/9/2005
To: John Keprios, Director
From: Richard Flumerfelt, Citizen
5225 Division Street
Edina 55436+1412
952-929-2114
Date: May 09, 2005
Re: PROPOSED HOCKEY RINK AT TODD PARK
When considering development of Todd Park, it is prudent to reflect upon
it's origin. Todd Park is a filled wetland and as such retains wetland
properties, such as poor drainage and water percolating to the surface in
wet years.
The recollection of an outdoor hockey rink at Todd Park in years past is
correct. Perhaps there is no recollection of why the hockey rink was
abandoned. At that time, there was normal to high precipitation and the
water table was high. Ground water percolated up thru the ice creating domes
of brown ice rendering skating difficult to hazardous. It was requested
that a Zamboni be brought in to level the ice sheet, but this proved to be
impractical. The brown ice puddles had appeared for years in other skating
areas in Todd Park before the construction of the hockey rink and they will
reappear again if the water table is high.
The Park and Recreation Department is to be commended for their efforts to
provide the community with adequate and pleasant facilities using the
resources available. Continue to be prudent and not grab defeat from the
jaws of victory.
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John Keprios
From: Todd Willmert [twillmert@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:09 PM
To: John Keprios
Subject: Todd Park
Dear John
Thanks for soliciting input on the Todd Park hockey rink.
We skated there several times last winter; you are right, the facility is underutilized.
I think the hockey rink would be a nice addition.
Todd Willmert
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5/9/2005
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 West 50'" Street
Edina, MN 55424
Office (952) 826-0430
FAX (952) 826-0385
Jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Memo
To: NEIGHBORS OF TODD PARK
From: John Keprios, Director
CC: Edina Park Board
Date: April 7, 2005
Re: PROPOSED HOCKEY RINK AT TODD PARK.
At the February Park Board meeting, the Park Board voted to consider a proposal to place an outdoor hockey
rink back at Todd Park. I say "back at Todd Park" because several years ago there used to be an outdoor
hockey rink where the existing light poles are currently in place. Before making a final decision, the Park Board
would like your input on the proposal.
There are a number of reasons why the Park Board is considering placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park.
Placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park will help meet the demand for organized outdoor hockey rink practice
time. There is also a desire to take advantage of the beautiful park shelter building at Todd Park that is
underutilized during the winter months. Due to Todd Park's location, placing a hockey rink back at Todd Park
will likely attract mainly Edina residents and serve the immediate neighborhood.
If a hockey rink were placed back at Todd Park, it would be subject to the same reservation policy in place for
all other outdoor hockey rinks in Edina parks. In other words, the hockey rink could be reserved by Edina
resident groups for scheduled uses from 6:00 p.m. to 9:15 p.m. weekday evenings; and 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.
on Saturdays; and 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Sundays. The only exception to the policy is that the Edina Hockey
Association is allowed to reserve additional scheduled times on Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. All Edina
outdoor hockey rinks remain unscheduled and open to public use from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. on weekdays.
To provide your input on this proposal, the Park Board welcomes you to submit your comments in writing
either by email or fax or letter to me at the address and information listed above. You are also welcome to
attend the Park Board meeting scheduled for Tuesday, May 10, 2005, at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room (2nd
floor in City Hall). Thank you in advance for your input. It is greatly appreciated.
PARK BOARD MEMBERS'
ASSIGNED PARKS
PARK NAME
-1 Alden Park George Klus
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2 Arden Park Andrew Finsness
3 Arneson Park Todd Fronek
4 Birchcrest Park Mike Damman
5 Braemar Park Michael Weiss
6 Bredesen Park Jeff Johnson
7 Browndale Park Michael Weiss
8 Centennial Lakes Park Todd Fronek
9 Chowen Park - Andrew Finsness,------,-
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11 Countryside Park Mike Damman
12 Creek Valley Park Jeff Sorem
13 j Edinborough Park Todd Fronek
14 Fox Meadow Park - Ray O'Connell
15 Garden Park Mike Damman
16 Heights Park Jeff Johnson
17 Highlands Park George Klus
18 Kojetin Park Linda Presthus
19Lake Edina Jeff Sorem
20 fi Lewis Park Jeff Johnson
21 McGuire Park _ Linda Presthus
22 Melody Lake Park Jeff Sorem
23 Normandale Park Michael Weiss
24 Rosland Park Karla Sitek
25 Pamela Park Andrew Finsness _
26 St. John's Park Michael Weiss
27 Sherwood Park Linda Presthus
28
Strachauer Park
Karla Sitek
29
Tingdale Park
Mike Damman
30
Todd Park
George Klus
31 Tupa Park
Jessica Selleck
32 Utley Park
Jessica Selleck
33
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Van Valkenburg Park
Walnut Ridge Park
Weber Park
Williams Park
Wooddale Park
York Park
Yorktown Park
NAME
Ray O'Connell
Ray O'Connell
Linda Presthus
Jessica Selleck
Jessica Selleck _
Andrew Finsness
Karla Sitek
PARK BOARD PARK ASSIGNMENTS
NAME
PARK
PARK ADDRESS
1
Mike Damman
Birchcrest Park
6016 Hansen Rd.
2
Mike Damman
Countryside Park
6240 Tracy Ave.So.
3
Mike Damman
Garden Park
5520 Hansen Rd.
4
Mike Damman
Tingdale Park
59th and Tingdale Ave.
5
Andrew Finsness
Arden Park
5230 Minnehaha Blvd.
6
Andrew Finsness
Chowen Park
5700 Chowen Ave.So.
7
Andrew Finsness
Pamela Park
5900 Park Place
8
Andrew Finsness
York Park
5448 York Ave.So.
9
Jessica Selleck
Tupa Park
4918 Eden Ave.
10
Jessica Selleck
Utley Park
50th and Wooddale Ave.
11
Jessica Selleck
Wooddale Park
Wooddale Ave. and 50th St.
12
Jessica Selleck
Williams Park
50th St. and Browndale Ave.
13
Todd Fronek
Arneson Acres Park
4711 West 70th St.
14
Todd Fronek
Centennial Lakes Park
7479 France Ave.So.
15
Todd Fronek
Edinborough Park
7700 York Ave.So.
16
Ray O'Connell
Fox Meadow Park
Blake Rd. and Fox Meadow Lane
17
Ray O'Connell
Van Valkenburg Park
4935 Lincoln Dr.So.
18
Ray O'Connell
Walnut Ridge Park
5801 Londonderry Rd.
19
Jeff Johnson
Bredesen Park
Vernon Ave. and Olinger Blvd.
20
Jeff Johnson
Heights Park
5500 West 66th St.
21
Jeff Johnson
Lewis Park
Cahill Rd. and Dewey Hill Rd.
22
George Klus
Alden Park
6750 Belmore Lane
23
George Klus
Highlands Park
5200 Doncaster Way
24
George Klus
Todd Park
4429 Vandervork Ave.So.
25
Linda Presthus
Kojetin Park
4201 West 44th St.
26
Linda Presthus
McGuire Park
69th St. and McGuire Rd.
27
Linda Presthus
Sherwood Park
Sherwood and Edenmoor St.
28
Linda Presthus
Weber Park
4115 Grimes Ave.So.
PARK
Rosland Park
Strachauer Park
Yorktown Park
Braemar Park
St. John's Park
Normandale Park
Browndale Park
Cornelia School Park
Creek Valley
Lake Edina Park
Melody Lake Park
PARK ADDRESS
4300 West 66th St.
6200 Beard Ave.
73rd St. and York Ave.
Southwest corner of Edina
West 60th St. and St.John's Ave.
6501 Warren Ave.So.
4510 Browndale Ave.
7142 Cornelia Dr.
Gleason Rd. and 64th St.
4400 Parklawn Ave.
5601 Melody Lake Dr.
NAME
29
Karla Sitek
30
Karla Sitek
31
Karla Sitek
32
Michael Weiss
33
Michael Weiss
34
Michael Weiss
35
Michael Weiss
36
Jeff Sorem
37
Jeff Sorem
38
Jeff Sorem
39
Jeff Sorem
PARK
Rosland Park
Strachauer Park
Yorktown Park
Braemar Park
St. John's Park
Normandale Park
Browndale Park
Cornelia School Park
Creek Valley
Lake Edina Park
Melody Lake Park
PARK ADDRESS
4300 West 66th St.
6200 Beard Ave.
73rd St. and York Ave.
Southwest corner of Edina
West 60th St. and St.John's Ave.
6501 Warren Ave.So.
4510 Browndale Ave.
7142 Cornelia Dr.
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NATIONAL GOLD MEDAL AWARD PROGRAM
Thursday, April 21, 2005
Mr. John Keprios
Edina Parks and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424
Dear Gold Medal Participant:
On behalf of the American Academy for Park and Recreation Administration (AAPRA),
the National Recreation and Park Association (NRPA), Porter Athletic Equipment Co.,
and Musco Lighting LLC, thank you for participating in the 2005 National Gold Medal
Awards for Excellence in Park and Recreation Management.
While you were not selected as a finalist for this year, the important contributions of your
agency to parks and recreation are recognized and appreciated.
We thank you for your efforts in compiling your Gold Medal application, and hope that
you will participate again in 2006.
Sincerely,
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Awards Coordinator
Enclosure
2005 Gold Medal Finalists Press Release
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703-858-0784
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National Recreation and Park Association
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Finalists Announced for the 2005 National Gold Medal Awards
AAPRA and NRPA Select the Agencies to Compete for Grand Honors
Ashburn, Va., April 2005 — The American Academy for Park and Recreation Administration
(AAPRA) in partnership with the National Recreation and Park Association (NRPA) is proud to
announce the finalists for the 2005 National Gold Medal Awards for Excellence in Park and
Recreation Management. Proud sponsors of the Gold Medals include Porter Athletic Equipment
Company and Musco Lighting LLC.
The 2005 Gold Medal finalists are:
Class I (population 250,000 and over)
City of Long Beach Department of Parks, Recreation and Marine, Long Beach,
Calif.
County of San Diego Department of Parks and Recreation, San Diego, Calif.
Indianapolis Department of Parks and Recreation, Indianapolis, Ind.
Saint Paul Parks and Recreation, Saint Paul, Minn.
Class II (population 100,001— 250,000)
City of Bellevue Parks and Community Services Department, Bellevue, Wash.
City of Peoria Community Services Department, Peoria, Ariz.
City of Westminster Department of Parks, Recreation and Libraries, Westminster,
Colo.
N A Lake Metroparks, Concord Twp., Ohio
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Class III (population 50,001-100,000)
Bend Metro Park and Recreation District, Bend, Ore.
Bolingbrook Park District, Bolingbrook, Ill.
Foothills Park and Recreation District, Littleton, Colo.
Wheaton Park District, Wheaton, Ill.
Class IV (population 25,001— 50,000)
City and County of Broomfield Recreation Services, Broomfield, Colo.
Homewood-Flossmoor Park District, Flossmoor, Ill.
James City County Parks and Recreation, Williamsburg, Va.
Town of Leesburg Department of Parks and Recreation, Leesburg, Va.
Class V (population less than 25,000)
Bloomingdale Park District, Bloomingdale, Ill.
City of Lake Forest Parks and Recreation, Lake Forest, Ill.
City of North Platte Leisure and Public Services, North Platte, Neb.
Frankfort Square Park District, Frankfort, 111.
State Park Systems
Florida State Parks, Florida Department of Environmental Protection
Missouri Department of Natural Resources' Division of State Parks
North Carolina Division of Parks and Recreation
Tennessee Department of Environmental Conservation
The Gold Medals honor communities throughout the United States that demonstrate excellence
in long-range planning, resource management, citizen support systems, environmental
stewardship, program development, professional development, and agency recognition. Each
agency is judged on its ability to address the needs of those it serves through the collective
energies of citizens, staff and elected officials.
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A panel of five parks and recreation professionals reviews and judges all application materials.
Judges are chosen for their considerable experiences and knowledge in parks and recreation on
both local and national levels.
This year's finalists will compete for Grand Award honors this spring, and all winners will be
announced live on stage at NRPA's Annual Congress & Exposition Opening General Session in
San Antonio, Texas in October.
For information on the Gold Medals for 2005, contact NRPA Awards Coordinator Amy Kapp at
akapp(a?nrpa.or2 or (703) 858-2190. For online information, go to the National Recreation and
Park Association website at www.nrpa.orE/awards or the Academy for Park and Recreation
Administration website at www.rpts.tamu.edu/aapra.
The American Academy for Park and Recreation Administration is a non-profit
organization founded to advance knowledge related to the administration of recreation and parks;
to encourage scholarly efforts by both practitioners and educators that would enhance the
practice of park and recreation administration; to promote broader public understanding of the
importance of parks and recreation to the public good; and, to conduct research, publish
scholarly papers, and sponsor seminars related to the advancement of park and recreation
administration.
The National Recreation and Park Association is a national not-for-profit 501(c)(3)
organization dedicated to advancing park, recreation and conservation efforts that enhance
quality of life for all people. Through a network of more than 19,000 citizens and recreation and
park professionals, NRPA encourages the promotion of healthy lifestyles, recreation initiatives,
and conservation of natural and cultural resources.
Headquartered in Ashburn, Va., NRPA works closely with local, state, and national agencies,
citizen groups and corporations to carry out its objectives. Priorities include advocating favorable
legislation and public policy, continuing education for park and recreation professionals and
citizens, professional certification and university accreditation, research and technical assistance,
and increasing public awareness of the importance of parks and recreation. For more
information, visit www.nma.org.
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Summary of Tree Work Performed by City Personal
February 25, to December 2, 2004
Compiled and Written by Mark Spain
TOTAL NUMBER OF JOB ORDERS
249
TREES TRIMMMED
360
TREES REMOVED
436
TREES PLANTED
24
(A) TREES TRIMMED
72 JOB ORDERS
360 TRIMS
Maintenance
46 Job Orders
263 Trims
44 Ash
67 Buckthorn
11 White Pine
1 Red Oak
4 Basswood
14 Willow
8 Cottonwoods
14 Boxelders
1 Spruce
17 Elms
14 Hackberry
7 Apple
2 Russian Olive
24 Silver Maple
12 Scotch pine
8 Burr Oak
5 Locust
6 Amur Maple
2 Catelpa
2 Cedar
Storm Damage
14 Jobs
29 Trees
7 Willow
7 Elms
3 Boxelder
8 Ash
4 Red Oak
Creek Jobs
5 Jobs
14 Trees
5 Boxelder
4 Cottonwood
2 Elm
3 Ash
Clear View Jobs
7 Jobs
54 Trees
7 Boxelder
18 Buckthorn
18 Willow
8 Elm
1 Red Oak
2 Basswood
(B) TREE REMOVALS 122 JOB ORDERS 438 TREES
Dutch Elm Disease Removals 77 Job Orders 233 Trees
233 Trees 2823"
Oak Wilt Disease Removals
3 Trees 81"
Dead, Hazard, or Declinin
202 trees 1415"
12
Willow 228"
1
Catalpa
5
Red Oak 131"
1
Fraiser Fur 4"
38
Red Maple 120"
7
Cottonwood 82"
2
Apple 12"
12
Elm 42"
68
Buckthorn 181"
STUMP REMOVALS
1 Maple
1 White Spruce
1 Ash
PLANTING JOBS
2 Magnolia
3 Austrian Pine
1 Northwood Maple
BRUSH PILE
LOADS OF MULCH
100 Yards
3 Job Orders 3 Trees
42 Jobs 202 Trees
17 Boxelder 159"
3
Hackberry 14"
1 Poplars 20"
1
Black Willow 15"
8 White Spruce 118"
5
White Pine 38
27 Ash 144"
2
Scotch Pine 18"
7 Cedar 59"
2
Mulberry 20"
1 Russian Olive 8"
2 Linden 28"
19 Sugar Maple 93"
2 Aspen 22"
4 JOBS 19 TREES
3 White Pine 1 Apple
2 White Oak
10 Buckthorn
7 JOBS 24 TREES
6 Burr Oak
10 Black Hill Spruce
2 Arborvitae
PICK UPS 39 JOB ORDERS
DELIVERED 5 LOADS
To: John Keprios, Director, Edina Park & Recreation Department
Cc: James Hovland, Mayor, City of Edina
Edina City Council
Scot Housh
Alice Hubert
Linda Masica
Ann Swenson
Edina Park Board
Mike Damman
Andy Fisness
Todd Fronek
Jeff Johnson
Alice Hulbert
George Klus
Linda Presthus
Jessica Selleck
Karla Sitek
Jeff Sorem
Mike Weiss
From: CONCERNED NEIGHBORS OF TODD PARK
We offer the attached petition as partial feedback to your letter of April 7,
2005 describing a proposal for a hockey rink in Todd Park. The
overwhelming majority of Todd Park neighbors object to the proposal.
While a number of neighbors may have submitted feedback independently,
the attached demonstrates a position of solidarity of the neighborhood
against the proposal. We anticipate forwarding additional signatures in
advance of the meeting of the Park Board next Tuesday, May 10th.
To: John Keprios, Director Edina Park & Recreation Department
Cc: City of Edina Park Board
From: CONCERNED NEIGHBORS OF TODD PARK
Date: April 20, 2005
Re: PROPOSED HOCKEY RINK AT TODD PARK
The undersigned strongly object to the proposal outlined in your letter of April 7, 2005
for establishing a hockey rink in Todd Park. While difficult to respond to the vague
proposal contained in your letter, we assume for purposes of this petition that the
proposal involves a permanent surface surrounded by a permanent board structure.
The neighbors of Todd Park take a very active role in the care & upkeep of the Park. A
recent example is the large number of volunteers involved in last fall's Buckthorn
eradication efforts. Neighbors also routinely police & cleanup Park grounds to maintain
its suitability for family use. While we support the Edina's interest in increasing rink
availability, we strongly object to the use of Todd Park as the locale for, among other
reasons, the following:
EROSION OF FAMILY USE PARK SPACE
Todd Park is currently highly utilized, particularly in the summer months. An additional
' permanent structure in the Park would eliminate a large swath of field that receives
significant summer -time use by families attempting to keep children from harm's way of,
or interfering with, the other organized sports activities in the park such as softball,
basketball, tennis and the bike path. An additional permanent structure in this location
would, in essence, transform the land from a neighborhood park into a city sports facility.
SAFETY IMPACT OF INCREASED TRAFFIC
Safety is a major concern to all of us in the neighborhood — Todd Park is a small park,
with short, dead-end streets on its east & west sides. The Park is bordered on its north by
an apartment complex catering to the elderly. Division Street, the Parks south border is
subject to heavy traffic use by neighborhoods to the west. The on the west side of the
park, Vandervork Avenue is already a very busy street, filled with activity of cars filled
with children and parents utilizing the playground area, basketball courts and softball
field. The high vehicle traffic is already unnerving for parents of young children in the
surrounding area. We do not consider increased traffic a positive impact to our
neighborhood.
LACK OF PARKING
Previous proposals from the city included the addition of a parking lot to compensate for
the additional usage. A parking lot would not diminish the traffic concern, and would
further erode the availability of grassy areas for picnics and other family activities. We
certainly do not need further pavement of paradise to put up a parking lot.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
Todd Park is within the Minnehaha Watershed and drains directly into the Minnehaha
Creek. The current drain system in the park leaves much to be desired. The Minnehaha
Watershed District was not aware of this proposal, and had not been asked to conduct an
environmental impact assessment. The District's input on this proposal is essential. In
addition, the location of the rink in the watershed will likely lead to continual movement
of the rink foundation, requiring constant & costly repair.
APPARENT LACK OF PLANNING
No Park Board vote should occur until the Board & the public are presented with a
detailed study showing, at a minimum, the expected environmental, traffic & safety
impact of the proposal. Investment in Todd Park would be better directed to planting of
new trees to replace the very old and damaged trees which are currently at risk. It would
also be nice if the city would assist in our efforts to clear out the buckthorn. The park
shelter building does get a fair amount of usage, but just as the hockey rink was
suggested, and rejected, a few years ago, so was the building. It is a shelter the city built
without the support of the neighborhood and is now trying to boost its usage to support its
existence.
The neighbors of Todd Park care very much about the park and have asked for support
from our city officials in the past, only to be disappointed, we hope that will not be the
case again. We understand there is a need for additional hockey rinks in Edina and hope
that there is another park facility that can provide you with more appropriate space.
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