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EDINA PARK BOARD N,A -
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2003
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EDINA CITY HALL
AGENDA
* 1. Approval of Tuesday, August 12, 2003, Park Board Minutes.
2. Braemar Scotland Special Presentation — John Valliere
3. Park Assignments Presentation — Andrew Finsness.
4. Updates.
A. YMCA/Tri-City Skate Park Grand Opening.
B. Normandale Park Playground Equipment.
C. Sherwood Park Playground Equipment.
D. 1" Tier Regional Trail.
E. Park & Ride Proposal For Garden Park.
F. Hilary Lane Dedication Ceremony.
*5. Todd Park Skating Rink Hours.
*6. Access To Public Facilities Policy.
7. Other.
8. Adjournment.
*These are agenda items that require or request Park Board action.
City Hall (952) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (952) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (952) 826-0379
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To: Edina Park Board.
From: John Keprios, Directr i,
Edina Park and Recreati n Department
Date: October 7, 2003
Re: TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2003, PARK BOARD MEETING STAFF REPORT.
Enclosed you should find the following items:
1. Tuesday, October 14, 2003, Park Board Agenda.
2. Tuesday, August 12, Park Board Minutes.
3. Letter and Survey To Todd Park Neighborhood.
4. Results of Todd Park Survey.
5. Proposed Revisions To Access To Public Facilities Policy.
7. Proposed 2004 Fees and Charges.
8. Email Exchanges From Warren Djerf.
9. Email Exchange from Mr. And Mrs. Vogt.
10. Email Exchange from Mr. Jeff Hanson.
11. Letter from LuAnn Tolliver, President of Nine Mile Creek Watershed District
The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with the
exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the agenda for other
information items (not requiring formal action), last minute items that may come up between
now and the Park Board meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board members
and/or attendees.
PARK BOARD MEETING AT
EDINA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
EDINA CITY HALL
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
The August 12, 2003, Park Board meeting will be at 7:00 p.m., in the City Council Chambers
at Edina City Hall.
If you are unable to attend, please call either Office Coordinator, Janet Canton, at 826-0435 or
me at 826-0430.
BRAEMAR SCOTLAND SPECIAL PRESENTATION
Braemar Golf Course Manager, John Valliere, and a contingency of Braemar Golf Course
Patrons recently took a trip to Braemar, Scotland, played the golf course, which our course is
named after, and met with dignitaries who wish to continue a close reciprocal relationship.
• Mr. Valliere has a brief and enjoyable Power Point presentation of this historic venture.
PARK ASSIGNMENTS PRESENTATION- ANDREW FINSNESS
• Park Board member, Andrew Finsness, has been assigned four parks to visit and make
recommendations for improvements:
1. Arden Park
2. Chowen Park
3. Pamela Park
4. York Park
Mr. Finsness will be giving a brief presentation on his findings to the Park Board at the
October 14th meeting.
UPDATES
I intend to give the Park Board verbal updates on:
A. YMCA/Tri-City Skate Park Grand Opening.
B. Normandale Park Playground Equipment.
C. Sherwood Park Playground Equipment.
D. 1St Tier Regional Trail.
E. Park & Ride Proposal For Garden Park.
F. Hilary Lane Dedication Ceremony.
TODD PARK SKATING RINK HOURS
Over the past several years, the outdoor pleasure skating rink has been getting minimal use to
a point where, in staff's opinion, we need to evaluate the cost benefit justification. A copy of
the warming house attendant's participation numbers is included in this mailing. As you will
notice, the total number of weekly skaters per week is rather minimal considering the cost to
maintain the outdoor ice rink and pay for a warming house attendant.
In 1996, several residents from the Todd Park neighborhood approached the City of Edina
requesting a new shelter building with restroom facilities. In fact, a Todd Park neighborhood
representative volunteered to be part of the shelter building design team that ultimately chose
the layout and design of the facility that was funded by a successful park bond referendum.
Thankfully, the building gets used year round by the neighborhood. There are several
building rentals during the summer months for a variety of both family and neighborhood
social events. The restroom facilities are open year round and automatically locked
electronically at night.
In my view, it is too nice a building to leave locked up during the winter months simply
because we do not have a hockey rink to justify the greater use. Therefore, based on the
survey data, I recommend that we adopt Option #1 as a reduced hour schedule for the
upcoming 2003-2004 skating season at Todd Park. I also recommend that staff contact the
eight residents who are willing to volunteer their time as warming house attendants and
coordinate an effort to keep the facility open on days beyond Option #1.
Our intent is to maintain the outdoor ice rink on a daily basis as in the past, even on days
when the warming house will not be open to the public.
Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item.
ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES POLICY
Enclosed in this mailing is a copy of my proposed revisions to the Access To Public Facilities
Policy. In summary, the changes primarily address the city's intent to limit Priority #2 to only
those exclusive youth athletic associations as listed in the policy with the intent to discourage
formation of competing youth athletic associations that cause a duplication of services that are
not in the public's best interest.
Under this revised policy, the Edina Youth Baseball Club would fall into Priority #7 for 2004.
As a result, the Edina Youth Baseball Club would have to pay an hourly fee for use of fields
and would not receive any administrative assistance with registration, typing, photocopying,
mailing, or scheduling games. In addition, these competing organizations will be low on the
list in priority to gain access to scheduled fields.
I hope to get our City attorney's opinion on the legality of these suggested revisions prior to
the Park Board meeting.
Formal Park Board action is requested on this agenda item.
2004 FEES AND CHARGES
I ask that Park Board members review the enclosed proposed 2004 Fees and Charges. It is
my intent to have staff attend the November Park Board to answer questions. Therefore, if
the Park Board does not have any questions in a particular area, I will not request that
particular management staff person to attend the November Park Board meeting. Fees and
Charges will be voted on at the November Park Board meeting.
OTHER
• As you will notice, there are two email exchanges included in your packet that address
non-resident's disappointment in the new fee structure at Edinborough Park.
• At the August Park Board meeting, I was asked to look into the recent letters to the
editor from Jeanne Hanson in the Sun Newspaper regarding water quality control in
Edina lakes and ponds, and particularly Lake Cornelia. The enclosed letter from
LuAnn Tolliver I believe accurately summarizes the issue, which means that the Nine
Mile Watershed District has spent thousands of dollars on a citywide water quality
management plan developed by Barr Engineering that identifies water quality priority
proj ects.
This is also an opportunity for Park Board members and residents to address other concerns.
City of r�dina
September 24, 2003
Dear Resident Neighbor of Todd Park:
Due to the small number of skaters at the Todd Park outdoor skating rink during the past
several winter seasons, the Edina Park and Recreation Department is considering some
cost saving options that will continue to provide an outdoor ice skating rink, however,
significantly reduce the expense of a warming house attendant.
Past records show us that Todd Park has the fewest numbers of skaters per week than any
other outdoor skating rink in Edina. We also understand that not having a hockey rink
significantly reduces the total number of skaters. In this period of tough economic times
and budget cuts, however, we are looking for ways to further reduce expenses.
Therefore, I am seeking your input on the enclosed survey that will help us continue to
provide an outdoor skating rink facility at Todd Park for the coming season and yet
reduce our operating expenses. In short, we propose to reduce the number of hours that
the warming house building is open to the public with a warming house attendant on
duty. Therefore, I would like to know what are the most preferred days and hours to
remain open.
In addition, we are considering the option of allowing resident adult volunteers to serve
as warming house attendants. In other words, I am interested to know if there are any
adults in the neighborhood available and interested in serving as an on-site volunteer
warming house attendant on a limited basis.
Your input on this matter is greatly appreciated. Based on the neighborhood's input, I
plan to have a recommendation in place for the Park Board to discuss at their 7:00 p.m.
meeting at City Hall on Tuesday, October 14, 2003. Therefore, please mail your survey
in the self-addressed stamped envelope no later than October 6, 2003. If you have any
questions, feel free to contact me by phone or email. Many thanks.
Sincerely,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
(952)826-0430
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City Hall (952) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (952) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (952) 826-0379
TODD PARK OUTDOOR ICE RINK SURVEY
EDINA PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Please choose one of the following 3 options that would be your preferred
reduced hour schedule:
OPTION #1
Tuesdays
Thursdays
Saturdays
Sundays
4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
12:00 noon — 4:00 p.m.
1:00 p.m. — 5:00 p.m.
OPTION #2
Mondays 4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Wednesdays 4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Saturdays 12:00 noon — 4:00 p.m.
Sundays 1:00 p.m. — 5:00 p.m.
OPTION #3_
Mondays
Tuesdays
Wednesdays
Thursdays
Fridays
Saturdays
Sundays
(please choose your preferred 12 hours/week)
Would you be willing to volunteer as an on-site warming house attendant?
Yes No If yes, when and how often?
(optional)
Name
Address
Phone
RESULTS
Todd Park Outdoor Ice Rink Survey
54 People responded to the survey.
Option # 1 = 23
Option #2 = 8
Option #1 or #2 =
Option #3 = 10
Did not indicate an Option = 12
Would you be willing to volunteer as on-site warming house attendant?
Yes =
• No = 24
Did not answer = 22
TODD PARK OUTDOOR ICE RINK SURVEY
(Additional surveys sent in after first report)
Option 1 = 2
Option 2 =
Option 3 = 2
One person did indicate that either Option 1 or Option 2 would be fine with them.
•
Comments
TODD PARK
SURVEY RESULTS
1. I am a senior somewhat disabled. What I do want is what is best for the community
without compromising youth's opportunities. While I might contribute in some way, I
understand the need for cutbacks, but let the input of those who use the facility count,
parents and youth alike.
2. Since we don't use it, we are not voting. I know our neighbors appreciate it being there.
Thanks for doing this survey.
3. There hasn't been good weather with lots of snow for the last few years. Hopefully we
will have better weather!
4. We are gone most of the winter. Our grandchildren use the rink when they visit.
5. I have no preference as I do not skate anymore and have no dependants at home. I do
appreciate your effort to try to keep some ice time for the area. Base on your usage
survey, however, I'm wondering if the use even justifies the expense of making and
maintaining the ice.
6. Shut it down. The house was and is a big waste of tax dollars. Whoever was behind the
building of it should have been fired or demoted. Without a hockey rink the warming
house should of never been built. Very dumb idea. Suggestion build a %2 size hockey
rink and make it the mite headquarters.
7. Retired and don't use the rink.
8. When our child is old enough to skate we will volunteer.
9. Possible grand kid use. No skaters here.
10. We feel that the house should not have been built; too many seniors in the area. Until the
neighborhood turns around, it should be closed or only open on weekends.
11. I am willing to volunteer on Friday evenings, as are many of the residents from the Todd
Park neighborhood association. Our associate will be happy to staff the warming house
for 36 hrs. (12 weeks) if we can get 12 hours of warming house rental (gratis) for the 4
neighborhood events that we have each year. If the quality of the ice is improved usage
will improve.
12. I think this is a good idea. I hope you have a good response from the younger residents
of the community. When we moved here in 1966 the ice rink was very "primitive".
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13. We're not neighbors of Todd Park. Children are grown and live in other cities and don't
use the rink. Wife is not well with a serious disease and availability to volunteer is
uncertain. Sorry!
14. If you really want to cut costs, I think having it open on weekends should be enough.
During the week with school and being dark so early, I don't think it will be necessary.
15. We can volunteer to cover Friday nights, maybe 6-8 pm with our neighbors alternating.
If we, as a neighborhood, organize to keep the warming house open one additional night
a week, would the city be willing to allow us to use the facility for our 4 annual
neighborhood events? It would also be nice if there could be a bench placed at the edge
of the ice, or under the overhang of the warming house, so that people could put on skates
easily when the house isn't open. Thanks for the opportunity to provide input.
16. Many neighbors are willing to do this while their children are using the park and rink!
17. We don't use the warming house very much, anyway — we are more concerned about
lights. Why not put the lights on a motion sensor, a timer, or have a 20 -minute timer like
the ones on a sauna, so residents can see when they want to skate, even if the attendant is
not there? Thanks.
18. Todd is a wonderful neighborhood park. It would be used more if we were sent a winter
schedule. Skating after supper is always fun, so possibly open until 9:00 pm?
19. Of course Todd Park has the fewest skaters. It is a poor rink with poor lighting and no
hockey rink. There are children who live in this neighborhood. It's just that open -rink
figure skating does not appeal to all of them! We need a rink. Raise my taxes, I don't
care. Give us a hockey rink! At least give us goals to play with!
20. To act as warming house attendants? What months? Where? Does everyone know this?
I can't, not in town regularly.
21. A. The ice at Todd Park often is bumpy due to soil conditions. That may take extra
maintenance to keep the surface smooth. Perhaps opening less could result in grooming
less — reducing expenses.
B. If open 3 consecutive days, then groom ice once a week? To reduce expenses, add
neighborhood parent volunteer to keep building open later (8-9 pm) Fri. and Sat. pm — on
as needed basis?
C. We could be on call if building is open and unstaffed. We could check that building
is empty and secure at closing time.
D. Parent volunteers to open on Monday and other holiday school days off?
22. Thanks for asking our input — it is appreciated.
23. N/A We don't use the ice rink. But we do walk on the walking path all winter.
24. Hire high school kids. It was unwise to build the warming house if it couldn't be
supported. In any case, please do not put in a hockey rink. Thanks.
25. We use Highlands Park.
26. Nice to have just the lights on until 8:00 pm during the dark winter months.
27. I might be willing to volunteer if I knew what was involved ...
28. Being a senior citizen I have no special interest — but think children should be able to
have the rink for sometimes.
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PRIORITY USE OF EDINA' S SCHEDULED OUTDOOR
ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND RECOMMENDED
GUIDELINES
(updated 10-06-03)
PURPOSE AND INTENT
The main purpose of this document is to prioritize scheduled access use of parks and
facilities in the City of Edina. This document also outlines both mandatory and
suggested guidelines for youth athletic associations to ensure that program offerings are
mindful of the public's health, safety and welfare and are fair and equitable to all
residents.
It is the City of Edina's view that the public is best served when there is only one
independently incorporated youth athletic association per sport. The City of Edina also
understands and supports that in some cases the public and volunteers are best served
by having the traveling component of a particular sport administered by its own
independent youth athletic association. To that end, the City of Edina will charge
differing facility use fees with intent to discourage formation of new youth athletic
associations that compete with existing youth athletic associations and creates a
duplication of services, which the City of Edina views as not in the public's best
interest. Further, the City of Edina will not provide any administrative or professional
recreation staff liaison staff assistance to competing youth athletic associations that are
determined to be duplication of service and not in the public's best interest.
The City of Edina encourages youth athletic associations to provide programs in a
manner that is in keeping with the Edina Park Board's philosophy.
REQUIREMENTS OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE
PRIORITY USAGE FOR PROGRAMMED USE OF THE CITY OF
EDINA'S SCHEDULED OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES:
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For purposes of this proposal, scheduled outdoor athletic facilities are meant to include
the following City -owned scheduled outdoor athletic facilities:
• Fields
• Basketball courts
• Batting cages
• Hockey rinks
The City reserves the right to determine if an outdoor athletic facility shall be
considered "a scheduled facility" or not. In other words, the City may decide that it is
in the public's best interest to periodically not schedule specific outdoor athletic fields,
basketball courts or hockey rinks. Examples would include the need to rest a field for
maintenance or safety purposes, or make specific outdoor athletic facilities available to
the public at large due to demand.
Outdoor athletic City -owned facilities that are not meant to be included under this
proposal are:
• Golf courses
• Edina Aquatic Center
• Tennis courts
ORGANIZATIONS WHICH REQUEST SPECIAL PERMITS TO
fj OFFER ONGOING PROGRAMS ON SCHEDULED OUTDOOR
ATHLETIC FACILITIES ARE REQUIRED (unless otherwise noted)
TO COMPLY WITH THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES:
1. Organizations must be Edina based, non-profit, public service groups. "Edina" is
defined as located or based in Edina. "Non-profit" means a not-for-profit
organization as defined by State statutes. "Public service group" is defined as a
group organized to provide a public service to the entire community, or all
individuals in the community within the age group being served. The City of Edina
reserves the right to determine whether or not an existing athletic association meets
the non -duplication of services requirement. For example, a limited age specific
traveling only association may be determined to be a duplication of services that is
not in the best interest of the community even if a similar traveling component may
not be offered by an existing athletic association. Non-profit status is important
because Minnesota State Law 604A.11 grants limited immunity from liability for
those associations registered and qualified as a non-profit organization under State
statutes (see attached copy).
2. Organizations are to deposit a copy of all bylaws, Article of Incorporation under
• Minnesota State statutes governing non-profit organizations, and all other
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documents, which govern their operation (i.e. policy statements, grievance
procedures, scholarship and grant applications, etc.) at the Edina Park and
Recreation Department so that those documents may be available for public review.
3. Organizations are to make all information concerning the governance of their
programs available to participants upon request.
4. Meeting of the organization's governing body, except those, which deal with
personnel issues or litigation, are to be publicized in advance and open to
participation to all program participants.
5. It is recommended but not mandatory that the election of the organization's
governing body is to be a process, which is open to all program participants.
6. Organizations are to be adequately prepared for dealing with participants that have
special economic, physical or social needs.
7. Organizations are not to discriminate against program participants or
applicants in any manner.
REQUIREMENTS OF TEAMS NOT AFFILIATED WITH AN EDINA
NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION REQUESTING RESERVATION OF
A SCHEDULED OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY (priority # 9
teams):
1. Team must be composed of a minimum of 50% Edina residents.
2. Facility reservations will be limited to their home games only, and their team
practices are limited to a maximum of one per week (may have only one game plus
one practice per week maximum).
3. The Park Board and City Council will establish fees.
4. Park Facility Use Permit required.
REQUIREMENTS OF GROUPS FOR SINGLE USE REQUESTS OF A
SCHEDULED OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY: (i.e., Edina Cub Scout
and Girl Scout Groups, Edina Church Groups, Edina Neighborhood Groups,
Edina Businesses, priority #9 groups)
1. Fifty percent (50%) of the participants must either live or work full time in Edina.
2. Fees will be established by the Park Board and City Council.
3. Park Facility Use Permit required.
PRIORITIES:
Organizations that meet the above stated guidelines that are requesting special permits
for single use or to offer ongoing programs on a City -owned scheduled outdoor athletic
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facility will be granted the opportunity based on the following use schedule, and within
the adopted standards for number of uses per team.
PRIORITY #l:
City Programs (Examples: City offered adult programs, summer playground programs,
basketball programs and special events open to the entire community.)
PRIORITY #2:
Youth teams (18 and under) that are members of one of the following independently
incorporated youth athletic associations that are currently recognized by the City of
Edina as the official youth sports organization for that particular sport offering:
• Edina Baseball Association
• Edina Basketball Association
• Edina Girls Athletic Association
• Girls Traveling Basketball Association
• Jr. Olympic Volleyball
•
Edina Hockey Association
•
Edina Soccer Association
• •
Edina Soccer Club
•
Edina Football Association
•
Edina Youth Softball Association
•
Edina Girls Fastpitch Softball Association
•
Edina LaCrosse Association
All of the above non-profit organizations must follow these guidelines:
1. 90% Edina residents. Edina youth residents are defined as individuals 18 years
old and under who live in Edina or who go to school in Edina.
2. Association or Club is a non-profit organization as defined by State statute.
3. The Association or Club must file a financial statement with the City each year
that will be made public upon request. This statement must indicate revenue,
expenditures and fund balances.
4. Association is open to all Edina residents and may not discriminate based on
race, ethnic background, or religion, however, may discriminate based on ability.
5. All board meetings are open to the public (with the exception of personal issues
• and litigation).
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6. The organization must have an open process for parents to discuss concerns or
recommend changes to the organization.
7. Teams are playing during the designated "primary season."
PRIORITY #3:
Edina School District Programs (Examples
practices, games, tournaments, etc.)
PRIORITY #4:
curriculum programs, interscholastic team
Non-profit adult teams or organizations that have 25% or more Edina residents during
the designated primary season. Edina adult "residents" must either live or work full-
time in Edina.
PRIORITY #5:
Edina non-profit public service groups who use the facilities to raise money for the
benefit of the entire community.
PRIORITY #6:
Businesses and neighborhood groups located in Edina during the designated primary
season.
PRIORITY #7:
Non-profit youth teams or organizations that have 60% or more Edina residents during
the designated primary season.
PRIORITY #8:
Priority #2 teams during a secondary season.
PRIORITY #9:
All other Edina teams on a first come, first served basis after higher priority teams have
had an opportunity to schedule each season. All teams must be composed of at least
50% Edina residents and requests must be made by an Edina resident. Edina adult
"residents" must either live or work full-time in Edina.
FIELD USE FEE
Priority #2 teams shall pay a per player per season field use fee as established by the
City Council. Teams and groups in Priority #4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, shall pay the
hourly/daily field use fee as established by the City Council.
PREEMPTION CLAUSE
The City of Edina will make every effort to avoid preemption of scheduled events once
an outdoor athletic facility has been reserved and all requirements are met. However,
the City reserves the right to preempt a scheduled event on a scheduled outdoor athletic
field when in the City's judgement the preemption is in the community's best interests.
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES
1. Fees for use of scheduled outdoor athletic facilities will be subject to change
each year at the discretion of the Edina City Council.
2. The City will establish dates each year by which teams must commit requests for
field reservation use in order to utilize their priority status. After that date, fields,
or facilities will be reserved on a first come, first served basis.
3. If teams or organizations are at the same priority level offering the same sport
activity for the same age group and gender, then the team or organization that
serves the highest number of Edina residents will receive the higher priority
status in terms of field, rink and court reservations.
5. The number of major tournaments or special events allowed by each youth
association will be determined by staff on an annual basis.
6. Any organization that fails to provide for and follow the guidelines set forth
above, or provides false information on a permit application, is subject to
revocation of its permit at the discretion of the Director of the Edina Park and
Recreation Department.
7. No organization will be allowed to sublease the City's scheduled outdoor
athletic facilities without City approval.
RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES
For all organized youth athletic associations in Edina, the following guidelines are
strongly encouraged but not mandated by the Edina Park Board and City Council:
1. That all boys and girls receive an equal opportunity to participate in any activity at
whatever ability level they may play.
2. Have fun.
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3. Build good sportsmanship and character.
4. Learn basic fundamentals of the sport they participate in.
5. Be a good team member.
6. Learn to accept discipline.
7. Have a reasonable amount of practices and games.
8. The Edina Park and Recreation Department staff should encourage the use of
volunteers on the Board of Directors, as well as, in the coaching, because we believe
in the philosophy of citizen involvement.
9. Selection of members to serve on the Board of Directors and as coaches should be
based on the prospective member having the understanding of the basic program
for all ability levels and all ages.
EDINA PARK BOARD STATEMENT OF PHILOSOPHY AND
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING USE OF ETHNIC, RELIGIOUS, OR
RACIAL NAMES OR SYMBOLS:
The Edina Park Board recognizes and celebrates the diversity of our community. In
doing so, the Edina Park Board encourages all youth athletic associations to respect our
community's ethnic, religious and racial diversity by honoring the following guideline:
"That no program, event or activity offered by an Edina youth athletic association
will use any ethnic, religious or racial names or symbols which may, in the
opinion of those groups, create or perpetuate stereotypes which distort or degrade
such groups. Programs whose express purpose is to explore and celebrate the
positive special contribution of such groups should be considered acceptable and
honorable."
EDINA PARK BOARD STATEMENT OF PHILOSOPHY AND
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING DRUGS, ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO
It is the belief of the Edina Park Board that the role modeling of parents, guardians,
teachers and coaches has a significant influence on youth attitudes toward the use of
alcohol, tobacco and drugs. It is the Edina Park Board's philosophy to encourage
parents and coaches to do their best to always display positive and healthy role
modeling behaviors while interacting with youth.
Therefore, the Edina Park Board strongly encourages each Edina youth athletic
association to take the following actions:
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I . Establish a drug, tobacco and alcohol policy that reflects a zero tolerance approach
to elicit drugs, tobacco and alcohol use by its youth participants.
2. Require that parents (and coaches) sign a statement that acknowledges that they
have read and understand the association's current drug, tobacco and alcohol policy.
3. Include in the association drug, tobacco and alcohol policy the following statement
that:
• Coaches and parents are strongly encouraged to not consume alcohol or tobacco
while interacting with youth while on traveling team trips (examples include while
traveling together on a bus, socializing in a hospitality room, etc.)
• For those adults who insist on bringing alcohol and/or tobacco on team trips, it is
strongly encouraged to make every attempt to keep the alcohol and/or tobacco out of
reach and out of sight of the youth at all times.
Action number three (0) is not to be considered as an enforceable policy, but rather, a
strongly encouraged positive role model behavior. The Edina Park Board strongly
encourages each youth athletic association to take this very seriously and do their part
to help develop positive and healthy attitudes in our youth with regards to drugs,
tobacco and alcohol.
Your youth athletic programs provide important assets in youth's lives, which result in
reductions in at -risk behaviors. The Edina Park Board applauds and appreciates your
efforts to build these positive assets that develop healthy kids and a healthy community.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2003 - ?????
SETTING 2004 PARK AND RECREATION FEES
`//RESOLVED that the Edina City Council does hereby approve and set the following 2004
and Recreation Fees.
PARK AND RECREATION
SUMMER SOFTBALL
2003
2004
PLAYGROUND
$21.00
$22.00
ADULT TENNIS INSTRUCTION
$38.00
$39.00
YOUTH TENNIS INSTRUCTION
$38.00
$39.00
PEE WEE TENNIS
$27.00
$28.00
TEAM TENNIS
$65.00
$67.00
TENNIS CAMP
$80.00
$83.00
YOUTH SUMMER CLASSIC TENNIS
TOURNAMENT
$14.00 singles
$21.00 doubles
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ADULT SUMMER CLASSIC TENNIS
TOURNAMENT
$16.00 singles
$21.00 doubles
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FAB 4 & 5
$49.00
$51.00
NATURE CAMP
$55.00
$55.00
LEAGUE OF CHAMPS
$5.00 per person
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SPORTS SPECTACULAR
N/A
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MN VIKINGS TRAINING CAMP
N/A
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SAFETY CAMP
$20.00
$20.00
SUPER 6 & 7
Non -Resident Fee
(Team)
$36.00
ADULT ATHLETIC FEES
SUMMER SOFTBALL
BASKETBALL
2003
2004
2003
2004
Co-Rec & Mens
Classic League
$385.00
$400.00
5 -Man C League
$450.00
$470.00
Mens/Womens 35 &
Over & Industrial
League
$350.00
$365.00
5 -Man B League
$450.00
$470.00
Non -Resident Fee
Individual
$26.00
$26.00
HOCKEY
Non -Resident Fee
Team
$155.00
$155.00
4 -Man League
$250.00
$250.00
FALL SOFTBALL
BROOMBALL
Co-Rec Leagues
$250.00
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Co-Rec League 1 $275.00 $250.00
Mens Leagues
$225.00
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CO-REC KICKBALL
Non -Resident Fee
Individual
$26.00
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CO-REC KICKBALL
N/A
$125.00
Non -Resident Fee
(Team)
$155.00
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VOLLEYBALL
Officiated Leagues
$285.00
$310.00
Non -Resident
(individual)
$10.00
$10.00
City Hall 1 (952) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (952) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (952) 826-0379
AQUATIC CENTER
SEASON TICKETS
RESIDENT FAMILY:
2003
2004
First 2 members
$75.00/$85.00
$80.00/$90.00
Each additional member
$35.00
$40.00
Maximum (8 members)
N/A
$330.00
RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL:
*40.00/$50.00
*40.00/$50.00
NON-RESIDENT FAMILY:
2003
2004
First 2 members
$90.00/$100.00
*$95.00/$105.00
Each addition al member
$40.00
$45.00
Maximum (8 members)
N/A
$375.00
NON-RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL
$50.00/$60.00
$50.00/$60.00
Daily Admission
$8.00
$8.00
Admission after 6 P.M.
$6.00
$6.00
Aquatic Instruction
$68.00
$92.00
* Early Bird Special if purchased no later than May 1, 2004.
ART CENTER 2003 (See
2004 FEES below)
Membership rates — FAMILY $40 - $30 INDIVIDUAL
Edina Resident Members $5.00 off
HOURS @
$5.80/hour
CLASS PRICE
Non -Member, Member
HOURS @
$8.00/hour
WORKSHOP PRICE
(parent/child)
30 $174/$156 9
$72/$65
24 $139/$125 8
$64/$58
22 $128/$115 7
$56/$50
20 $116$104 6
$48/$43
18 $104/$94 5
$40/$36
16 $93/$84
15 $87/$79
HOURS @
$9.00/hour
14 $81/$73
12 $70/$63 4
$36/$32
10 $58/$52 3
$27/$24
9 $52/$47 2
$18/$16
8 $46/$41 1
$9/$8
7 $41/$37
F_ ART CENTER 2004 (proposed)
Membership rates — FAMILY $40 - $30 INDIVIDUAL
Edina Resident Members $5.00 off
HOURS @
$5.80/hour
CLASS PRICE
Non -Member, Member
HOURS @
$8.00/hour
WORKSHOP PRICE
(parent/child)
30
$180/$162 9
$72/$65
24
$144/$130 8
$64/$58
22
$132/$119 7
$56/$50
20
$120$108 6
$48/$43
18
$108/$97 5
$40/$36
16
$96/$86
SEASON TICKETS
15
$90/$81 HOURS @
$84/$76 $9.00/hour
RESIDENT FAMILY:
14
12
$72/$65 4
$36/$32
10
$60/$54 3
$27/$24
9
$54/$49 2
$18/$16
8
$48/$43 1
$9/$8
7
$42/$38
2003
ARENA
2003
2004
Hourly Rate (as of 9/95)
$145.00
$150.00
Open skating Youth and Adult
$4.00
$4.00
Skate Rental
$2.00
$2.00
Skate Sharpening
$4.00
$4.00
SEASON TICKETS
set first week of Se tember
RESIDENT FAMILY:
2003
2004
First 2 members
$80.00
$85.00
Each additional member
$5.00
$5.00
Maximum (7 persons)
$105.00
$110.00
RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL:
$70.00
$75.00
NON-RESIDENT FAMILY:
2003
2004
First 2 members
$95.00
$100.00
Each additional member
$5.00
$5.00
Maximum (7 persons)
$120.00
$125.00
NON-RESIDENT INDIVIDUAL
$80.00
$85.00
CLASSES
$90.00
$95.00
BRAEMAR
GOLF COURSE
GREEN FEES
2003
2004
18 hole - non -patron
$31.00
$32.00
18 hole - patron
$23.00
$24.00
9 hole - non -patron
$18.00
$18.00
9 hole - patron
$13.00
$14.00
GROUP FEES - 18 holes
$46.00
$47.00
GROUP FEES - 9 holes
$20.00
$20.00
PATRON CARDS before April 1
2003
2004
Individual
$60.00
$60.00
Executive Course
$25.00
$25.00
PATRON CARDS (after March 31)
2003
2004
Individual
$65.00
$65.00
Executive Course
$25.00
$25.00
COMPUTERIZED HANDICAPS
2003
2004
Resident
$22.00
$22.00
Non -Resident
$26.00
$27.00
LOCKERS
2003
2004
Men's 72 inch
$40.00
$40.00
Men's 42 inch
$30.00
$30.00
Ladies 72 inch
$20.00
$20.00
CLUB STORAGE
$45.00
$45.00
CLUB RENTAL
$8.50
$8.50
PULL CARTS
$3.00
$3.00
GOLF CARS
2003
2004
18 holes
$26.00
$26.00
9 holes
$15.00
$15.00
18 holes/person with disability/s I rider
$16.00
$16.00
Group Car Fees
$36.00
$36.00
GROUP GOLF LESSONS
2003
2004
Adult
$85.00
$85.00
Junior
$42.00
$42.00
BRAEMAR ROOM
2003
2004
Resident - wedding related
$750.00
$800.00
Non-residents - wedding related
$850.00
$900.00
Other events
$350.00/$850.00
$350.00/$900.00
BRAEMAR EXECUTIVE COURSE
GREEN FEES
2003
2004
Adult non -patron
$11.00
$11.00
Adult patron
$9.00
$9.00
Junior - non -patron
$8.00
$8.00
Junior - patron
$7.00
$7.00
Golf Cars (everyone)
$13.00
$13.00
Pull Carts
$2.50
$2.50
Group Fees
$14.00
$14.00
DRIVING RANGE
2003
2004
Large Bucket
$6.25
$6.50
Small Bucket
$4.00
$4.25
Warm -Up Bucket
$2.50
$2.75
FRED
RICHARDS GOLF COURSE
2003 2004
GREEN FEES
2003
2004
Adult - non -patron
$11.00
$11.00
Adult - patron
$9.00
$9.00
Junior - non -patron
$8.00
$8.00
Junior - patron
$7.00
$7.00
Golf Cars eve one
$13.00
$13.00
Pull Carts
$2.50
$2.50
Group Fees
$14.00
$14.00
GOLF DOME
2003 2004
Large Bucket
$6.50 $6.50
Senior Bucket
$6.25 $6.25
Time Golf 1/2 hour
$9.00 $9.00
Hourly Field Rental
$110.00 $120.00
EDINBOROUGH PARK
2003
2004
Daily Passes
$4.00
-0-
Pool & Track Daily Passes
-0-
$4.00 residents
$5.00 non residents
"POOL
& TRACK"
SEASON PASSES
2003
2004
Edina Individual
$200.00
$225.00
Each Additional Member
$25.00
$40.00
Maximum (7 Members)
$350.00
$440.00
Non -Edina Individual
$230.00
$250.00
Each Additional Member
$30.00
$50.00
Maximum (7 members)
$410.00
$530.00
Towel Fee
$1.00
$1.00
Skate Rental
$2.00
-0-
Locker Rental
$0.25
$0.25
BUILDING RENTALS
EXCLUSIVE RENTAL
2003
2004
2003
2004
Friday Evening
$2,000.00
$2,000.00
Banners
$150.00
-0-
Saturday Evening
$2,000.00
$2,000.00
Use of Rink
Area
$125.00
-0-
Adventure
Peak
-0-
$125.00
Prom
$2,500.00
$2,500.00
Cover Ice
Area
$400.00
-0-
NON-EXCLUSIVE RENTALS: (per hour)
Domestic Photo Shoot
(hourly)
2003
2004
Any Park
Area
Blocked Off
$75.00
$75.00
Great Hall
$300.00
$300.00
Grotto
$ 75.00
$ 75.00
Theater
$125.00
$125.00
Theatre
$ 75.00
$ 75.00
Grotto
$75.00
$75.00
Great Hall
$ 75.00
$ 75.00
Ice Rink
$100.00
-0-
Ice Rink
$100.00
-0-
Ice Rink
Adventure Peak
$100.00
-0-
-0-
$125.00
Commercial Photo Shoot
(hourly)
Pool (swim team only)
$25.00
$25.00
Any Park
Area
Blocked Off
$ 200.00
$ 200.00
Grotto
$ 200.00
$200.00
Theatre
$ 200.00
$200.00
Great Hall
$ 300.00
$300.00
Ice Rink
Adventure
Peak
$ 300.00
-0-
-0
$300.00
EDINBOROUGH PARK"PLAYPARK"
(as of September 2, 2003)
Weekend Rental -
Full Evening 6 PM -12 AM
2003
2004
Playpark Daily Admission:
2003
2004
Resident
$4.00/person
$4.00/person
Non-resident
$5.00/person
$5.00/person
Children Under 12 Months
FREE
FREE
Adults
Free With Paid Child
Free With Paid Child
Edinborou h Association Members Daily
Pass $2.00
$2.00
Playpark Punch Pass - 10 Uses
$4.00
%2 day - Salon M-TH
Resident
$35.00
$35.00
Non-resident
$40.00
$40.00
Pla park Season Pass
$275.00
Resident
$75.00
$75.00
Non-resident
$100.00
$100.00
Total Facility Daily Admission
Per Court
$10.00
Resident
$6.00
$6.00
Non-resident
$8.00
$8.00
CENTENNIAL LAKES
Rental Concession Items
Weekend Rental -
Full Evening 6 PM -12 AM
Paddle Boats
2003 2004
2003
2004
4 person boat %2 hr
$ 5.00 $6.00
Friday evening
$800.00
$825.00
Winter sled per hr
$5.00 $5.00
Saturday evening
$800.00
$825.00
Ice Skates
$4.00 $4.00
Champion Putting
BUILDING RENTALS
9 hole
$4.00
$4.00
%2 day - Salon M-TH
$150.00
$175.00
18 hole
$7.00
$7.50
Sunday - '/z day Salon
$250.00
$275.00
Amphitheater Rental
Lawn Games
Amphitheater Rental
$200.00
$200.00
Per Court
$10.00
$12.00/hr
COMMERCIAL PHOTO
SHOOT
$50.00/hr
$50.00/hr
PARK DEPARTMENT RENTALS
General Park Areas:
Van Valkenburg/Courtney Fields
Residents Only)
2003
2004
2003
2004
Resident Use/hour
$38.00
$40.00
Per field/day includes
building
$155.00
$155.00
Resident Use/day
$116.00
$120.00
Edina Athletic Associations
Commercial Use (i.e.
TV)/hour
$65.00
$65.00
Field User
fee/participant
$8.00
$8.00
Commercial use with
light/hour
$120.00
$120.00
Edina Hockey Association
Outdoor Hockey Rink
Picnic shelter/day -
Cornelia
$120.00
$125.00
Field User
fee/participant
$8.00
$8.00
Showmobile/day
$700.00
$700.00
Park Shelter Buildings half-day
Athletic Fields - Residents
Only:
Weber Park
$50.00
$55.00
Per field - per day
$116.00
$120.00
Cornelia School
Park
$50.00
$55.00
Per field - per hour
$38.00
$40.00
Todd Park
$50.00
$55.00
Per field - per hour
(with lights)
$60.00
$62.00
Walnut Ridge Park
$50.00
$55.00
ARNESON ACRES PARK/TERRACE
ROOM ONLY
Park Shelter Buildings full-day)
Per hour, first hour
$40.00
$40.00
Weber Park
$80.00
$80.00
Each additional hour up
to 3 hours
$25.00
$30.00
Cornelia School Park
$80.00
$80.00
Per day (4 hours or
more)
$115.00
$130.00
Todd Park
$80.00
$80.00
ARNESON ACRES
PARK/GAZEBO ONLY
Walnut Ridge Park
$80.00
1 $80.00
day (6 hrs or less)
$30.00
$30.00
Rosland Park Pathway:
Full day (over 6
hours)
$60.00
$60.00
Per hour
$55.00
$55.00
Arneson Acres Terrace Room/Gazebo:
Per day
$210.00
$210.00
Per day (4 hours or
more)
$150.00
$150.00
Per hour, first hour
$53.00
$55.00
Each additional hour up
to 3 hours
$25.00
$30.00
PEGGY KELLY MEDIA ARTS STUDIOS
DO -IT YOURSELF
2003
2004
EQUIPMENT
2003
2004
SERVICES
HOURLY
RENTAL
2 DAY
FEE
RENTAL
Transfer movies to video
$14.00/
$16.00/
35mm Slide
$20.00
$20.00
VHS tape or DVD disk
$35.00"
$40.00
Projector
Pictures or slides to video
$14.00/
$16.00/
VHS Camcorder
$25.00
$25.00
(album)
$35.00*
$40.00
Audio Dubbing or
$14.00/
$14.00
Overhead
new
new
Transfer
$35.00*
$40.00
Projector
$20.00
$20.00
old $15.00
old $15.00
Digital Video Editing
$20.00/
$20.00/
Opaque
$25.00
$25.00
$50.00*
$50.00*
Projector
35mm Photo Copies
$10.00/
$12.00
16mm Movie
$25.00
$30.00
$35.00*
$40.00
Projector
35mm Slide Copies
$10.00/
$12.00
Super 8mm
$25.00
$30.00
$35.00*
$40.00
Projector with
sound
VHS Video Copies
$5.00/copy
$6.00
8mm Movie
$20.00
$25.00
(up to 3 at one time)
Projector
Studio does it
$10.00
$12.00
Foreign Conversion
$10.00
$12.00
Lowell Light Kit
$20.00
$20.00
(PAL, SECAM)
Studio does it
$15.00
$18.00
Laminator/Heat Press
$4.00
$5.00
Wireless Mike
$20.00
-0-
Kit
Audio Cassette Dupl.
$1.00/
$1.00/
Movie screen
$5.00
$5.00
copy
cop
Customer provides blank cassettes (video and audio), film and lamination
supplies.
* STUDIO COPYING/TRANSFERRING
PHOTO/VIDEO STUDIO
RENTAL
2003
2004
Photo Studio - not staffed
$30.00/hr non member
$20.00 member
$20.00 member
non-members pay add'I
daily access fee
COMPUTER OPEN STUDIO TIME
2003
2004
Macintosh G3 or Compaq 266 Mhz PC
$8.00/hr.
$10.00/hr
(includes use of Adobe Photoshop, PageMaker and
non-members pay
non-members pay an
Illustrator software with Epson Color Stylus
an add'I $10.00
add'I $10.00 daily
printing - prints purchased separately)
daily access fee
access fee
MEMBERSHIP
2003
2004
One day/one visit pass - $10.00
$10.00
$15.00
Annual Individual Membership 12 months)
$30.00
$30.00
Annual Family Membership (12 months)
$40.00
$40.00
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EDINA SENIOR CENTER
FEES
2003
2004
Golf League Membership Richards Golf Course
$10.00
$10.00
55+ Softball League Membership Van Valkenbur
$30.00
$30.00
Volleyball League Membership
$15.00
$15.00
Bowling League Membership
$10.00
$10.00
Edina Senior Center Membership
$15.00
$16.00
ROOM RENTAL
Fireside Room & Classrooms per hour — minimum 2 hours
$30.00
$35.00
Fireside Room & Classrooms per day
$130.00
$135.00
Gathering/GRANDVIEW Room per hour — minimum 2 hours
$40.00
$45.00
Gatherin /GRANDVIEW Room per da
$180.00
$185.00
WordArt Display Rental
15% of Sale
EQUIPMENT RENTAL
Television/VCR/DVD
$10.00
Overhead Projector
$5.00
Portable Screen
$5.00
ATTEST:
City Clerk Mayor
STATE OF MINNESOTA )
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN )SS
CITY OF EDINA )
CERTIFICATE OF CITY CLERK
I, the undersigned duly appointed and acting City Clerk for the City of Edina do hereby
certify that the attached and foregoing Resolution was duly adopted by the Edina City
Council at its Regular Meeting of , and as recorded in the Minutes of said
Regular Meeting.
WITNESS my hand and seal of said City this day of
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City Clerk
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From: Warren Djerf [mailto:warren@brookcomm.net]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:50 PM
To: JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Cc: AKattreh@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: Rates at Edinborough Park
Dear Mr. Keprios --
My name is Warren Djerf ("Jerf') and I am a 10 -year resident of St.
Louis Park. I have enjoyed bringing my small children to Edinborough
Park (EP) the last few years, primarily in the winter months when cold
weather makes prolonged outdoor activity prohibitive for small kids. (My
kids are ages 7, 5, 3 and 1.)
With colder weather on the horizon, I was looking forward to visiting EP
again this winter. I was surprised last weekend to hear from a neighbor
about the new playground equipment ("Adventure Peak") and new rate
structure at EP. As it stands now, as a non-resident, I would be
charged $20 for my four kids.
We typically visited EP on a Saturday morning for 1-2 hours. I would
have a hard time justifying a $20 outing given my family's one -income
budget and the short attention span of small children and the likelihood
that a park visit may be cut short by a tantrum, skinned knee or hunger
pangs. I'm writing to ask if there could be a "family rate" plan that would
not place such a financial burden on families with 3+ kids. For example,
think $10 for a one-time "family ticket" would be feasible with my family's
budget.
I have exchanged a few e-mails with Ann Kattreh this week, and she
suggested I contact you. She cited the overwhelmingly positive response
that Adventure Peak has received so far, and the fact that its price
structure is comparable to similar facilities in New Brighton, Eagan, Maple
Grove and Woodbury. [This is all rather ironic because I remember
speaking with Ann a few years ago about the quantity and condition of the
equipment -- balls, scooters, etc. -- at EP. I suggested a modest fee be
charged for use of the great hall/playground. By modest, I was
thinking $1-2 per child.]
After hearing what parks Ann considered "the competition" I pointed
out that proximity is a huge issue when I'm selecting recreational activities
for my family. And I don't think I'm unique in this regard. If I have a two-
hour window of time (like a Saturday morning, before afternoon nap time)
for my kids to "run off steam", I don't want them to spend half of that
time driving to/from a park. I don't believe any of these other parks would
be less than a 25 -minute drive one-way from my home in southeast SLP.
Particularly during the winter, when road conditions and weather
sometimes don't encourage extra driving. While those in the parks &
recreation departments may consider these other metro -area parks
"comparable", I would argue that, to many users, their remote
locations make them "incomparable."
While I'm sure the City of Edina is justifiably proud of its new amenities
at EP, I hope that some provisions/rate changes can be made that will
improve the accessibility, affordability and enjoyment of EP for more area
residents.
Thank you for considering my point of view.
Sincerely,
Warren Djerf
Phone: 952-920-3908 (home office)
4111 Brookside Avenue South
St. Louis Park, MN 55416-3110
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John Keprios
From: John Keprios
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:48 AM
To: 'warren@brookcomm.net'
Subject: RE: Rates at Edinborough Park
Warren,
The Park Board will address fees and charges at their meeting on Wednesday, November 12, 7:00 p.m., which is
in the Council Chambers at Edina City Hall. These meetings are open to the public.
Thanks,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
(952) 826-0430
(952) 826-0390 FAX
JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: Warren Djerf [mailto:warren@brookcomm.net]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:55 AM
To: John Keprios
Subject: RE: Rates at Edinborough Park
John -- Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
I'm curious if there are meeting/decision dates on the horizon where these municipal bodies will be meeting? (I
assume the City Council meets monthly, but don't know about the Park Board. I think Ann mentioned a
November Park Board meeting?) If so, could you please let me know what/when they are? I don't want to miss a
window of opportunity by my own ignorance.
Thank you!
Warren
-----Original Message -----
From: John Keprios [mailto:JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:44 AM
To: 'warren@brookcomm.net'
Cc: Ann Kattreh
Subject: RE: Rates at Edinborough Park
Warren,
Thank you for your email. I appreciate your comments and will gladly share your thoughts with the Edina
Park Board to ensure that your views are heard by those who make fees and charges recommendations to
the City Council. As Ann may have shared with you, it was staffs recommendation (and the Park Board
agreed) that the City Council adopt a fees and charges structure for Edinborough that was the same daily
admission for residents and non-residents. The City Council (5 elected officials) disagreed. They set the
fee which is more expensive for non-residents.
It would be my guess that your request will not change their previous decision, however, I will make it a
10/7/2003
point to bring your suggestion of a break in price for large families to the Edina Park Board for their
consideration. As you may already know, there currently is not a break in price for large families for any of
our program offerings for either resident or non-resident families.
Again, thank you for your comments and I wish you well.
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
(952) 826-0430
(952) 826-0390 FAX
JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: Warren Djerf [mailto:warren@brookcomm.net]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:50 PM
To: JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Cc: AKattreh@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: Rates at Edinborough Park
Dear Mr. Keprios --
My name is Warren Djerf ("Jerf') and I am a 10 -year resident of St. Louis Park. I have enjoyed bringing
my small children to Edinborough Park (EP) the last few years, primarily in the winter months when cold
weather makes prolonged outdoor activity prohibitive for small kids. (My kids are ages 7, 5, 3 and 1.)
With colder weather on the horizon, I was looking forward to visiting EP again this winter. I was
surprised last weekend to hear from a neighbor about the new playground equipment ("Adventure Peak")
and new rate structure at EP. As it stands now, as a non-resident, I would be charged $20 for my four
kids.
We typically visited EP on a Saturday morning for 1-2 hours. I would have a hard time justifying a $20
outing given my family's one -income budget and the short attention span of small children and the
likelihood that a park visit may be cut short by a tantrum, skinned knee or hunger pangs. I'm writing to ask
if there could be a "family rate" plan that would not place such a financial burden on families with 3+ kids.
For example, I think $10 for a one-time "family ticket" would be feasible with my family's budget.
I have exchanged a few e-mails with Ann Kattreh this week, and she suggested I contact you. She cited
the overwhelmingly positive response that Adventure Peak has received so far, and the fact that its price
structure is comparable to similar facilities in New Brighton, Eagan, Maple Grove and Woodbury. [This is
all rather ironic because I remember speaking with Ann a few years ago about the quantity and condition of
the equipment -- balls, scooters, etc. -- at EP. I suggested a modest fee be charged for use of the great
hall/playground. By modest, I was thinking $1-2 per child.]
After hearing what parks Ann considered "the competition" I pointed out that proximity is a huge issue
when I'm selecting recreational activities for my family. And I don't think I'm unique in this regard. If I
have a two-hour window of time (like a Saturday morning, before afternoon nap time) for my kids to "run off
steam", I don't want them to spend half of that time driving to/from a park. I don't believe any of these other
parks would be less than a 25 -minute drive one-way from my home in southeast SLP. Particularly during
the winter, when road conditions and weather sometimes don't encourage extra driving. While those in the
parks & recreation departments may consider these other metro -area parks "comparable", I would argue
that, to many users, their remote locations make them "incomparable."
While I'm sure the City of Edina is justifiably proud of its new amenities at EP, I hope that some
provisions/rate changes can be made that will improve the accessibility, affordability and enjoyment of EP
for more area residents.
Thank you for considering my point of view.
Sincerely,
Warren Djerf
Phone: 952-920-3908 (home office)
4111 Brookside Avenue South
St. Louis Park, MN 55416-3110
10/7/2003
John Keprios
To: chad.vogt@usbank.com
ubject: RE: Todd Park Outdoor Skating Rink
Good afternoon Mr. & Mrs. Vogt,
Thank you very much for the email. Your comments are well taken and greatly appreciated.
As for the hockey rink, if anything, we have explored the possibility of reducing the
number of maintained outdoor hockey rinks because our budgets are going the opposite
direction with State cutbacks to local governments. Todd Park has proven not to be the
best location for a hockey rink mainly due to the lack of adequate safe parking that would
be needed to accomodate the volume of non -neighborhood traffic. Understandably, there are
some residents in the Todd Park area who strongly oppose the construction of an off-street
parking lot within the park. I am also aware of the oposing views on that subject.
My main concern here is to continue to maintain the outdoor pleasure skating rink at Todd
Park similar to the maintenance it has received in the past. Even if the warming house is
not open and supervised, the rink will be maintained on a daily basis. I do not support
the notion of totally closing that beautiful building all winter and not having a skating
rink at all, as suggested by a few neighbors already. I believe we can justify
maintaining an outdoor rink and yet reduce our expenses for warming house attendants by
having it open less often.
Thank you for your willingness to serve as a volunteer warming house attendant. I will
keep the neighborhood informed as to the Park Board's direction/recommendation on this
matter.
Thanks again!
John Keprios, Director
Tina Park and Recreation Department
1801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
(952) 826-0430
(952) 826-0390 FAX
JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----original Message -----
From: chad.vogt@usbank.com [mailto:chad.vogt@usbank.com]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:34 PM
To: jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Cc: Vogt, Carol; cvogt@mn.rr.com
Subject: Todd Park Outdoor Skating Rink
Dear Mr. Keprios:
With some concern we are in receipt of your letter of September 24, 2003,
regarding the status of the Todd Park rink and warming house for the
2003-04 season. While we have issues with any cut-back of community
services especially in the Park & Rec area we do understand the need to
realistically evaluate resource utilization and make adjustments based on
the city operating budget. So, while we do not like seeing services at the
park cut back we'd be comfortable with a reduced operating schedule that
looks something like this:
WEDNESDAYS: 4:30-8:30 p.m.
SATURDAYS: 10:00 a.m. - 8:30 p.m.
SUNDAYS: Noon - 7:00 p.m.
We are assuming that even with a limited operating schedule the rink would
continue its normal daily grooming schedule that has gone on in the past so
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it could be used even without the warming house being open.
Relative to your query concerning adult volunteers able and willing to
serve as warming house attendants. My wife and I would, on a limited basis,
be able to volunteer on Saturday or Sunday afternoons.
:inally, an aside to this issue: has there been any discussion concerning
the possibility of reconstructing the Todd Park hockey rink? It's a great
locale for an outdoor rink as its setting provides some protection from the
elements. I have to believe the Edina Hockey Association would like to see
another outdoor ice sheet in the community. As they say, "build a rink and
they will come"!
Regards,
Chad K. Vogt
Carol D. Vogt
Christian R. Vogt
Chase A. Vogt
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Chad and Carol Vogt
4516 Vandervork Avenue
Edina, MN 55436-1433
(952) 929-7115
cvogt@mn.rr.com
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John Keprios
From: John Keprios
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:02 AM
To: 'loborocket@usfamily.net'
Cc: Dennis Maetzold; Jennifer Bennerotte; John Keprios; Ann Kattreh; Tom Shirley
Subject: RE: Edinborough Park use Fees
Mr. Hanson,
Thank you for you email. I appreciate your comments and will pass them along to the Edina Park Board and staff
Your comments are well taken and I understand your disappointment. You are also correct in stating that "I
assume budget cuts and shortfalls are the reason for the users fees." The harsh reality is that without reducing
expenses and/or generating addition revenues, in time the indoor park at Edinborough would have to be shut
down, similar to what St. Paul Town Square did not long ago. We can no longer afford to provide an indoor
playground that is open year 'round and free to the public.
We are pleased to be able to offer what is now one of the finest indoor playground structures in the Midwest at a
price that is comparable to all other indoor play structures in the twin cities. The 40 foot square 37 foot tall
structure is quickly becoming more popular each day.
If you have any further comments or questions, feel free to contact me
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
(952) 826-0430
(952) 826-0390 FAX
JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
-----Original Message -----
From: loborocket@usfamily.net [mailto:loborocket@usfamily.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:18 PM
To: JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Cc: DMaetzold@ci.edina.mn.us; EdinaMail@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: Edinborough Park use Fees
Mr. Keprios,
On Tuesday evening October 7th my 4 year old son an I had just finished doing some shopping at the Galleria
in Edina, when he asked if we could go to the indoor tot lot (Edinborough Park). We had time so I decided to stop
in for just a bit. I was however surprised and disappointed to see there is now a usage fee of $5 for non -Edina
residents. In the past your park was a great place for a family to take children during bad weather, or during the
long Minnesota winter. With this new policy that is no longer the case.
Before the usage fee Edinborough Park was a asset to the city of Edina. My son and I would often spend an
hour or so while we are out shopping or just generally in the Edina area of the Twin Cities. The park was the
reason we decided to shop at Southdale as opposed to another mall. The park provided a place for our families
of Russian adopted children group to meet during the winter months and allowed our children a nice open place
to exercise while the parents socialized. The park provided the senior citizens who lived in the attached housing
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units a place where they could watch children playing, surely giving them joy and contributing to their health. The
park provided a needed dose of green trees for me during the long winter months. These things (and many
others not mentioned) are all impacted by the decision to have a usage fee for the park. I am sure you will
see these fees will severely impact park attendance this winter season. The fees may serve to offset the hard
costs to the city to run the park, but will in no way recover the "soft" cost to the city in the loss of this asset
because of people making the decision to not use the park at all.
I assume budget cuts and shortfalls are the reason for the users fees, but it is frustrating as a taxpayer in
Minnesota to see things like this happen to our services we have come to expect. $5 may not seem like much but
it affects the way I can use the service. The park is no longer a place I can stop in for a little bit with my family for
a break from shopping or just a nice place to go. To feel like I have gotten my money's worth I would have to
spend a 2 or 3 hours using the park, and with a 4 year old this is just not reality. I am sure my trip to Edinborough
Park tonight will be my last. I probably will not do much shopping at Southdale or the Galleria anymore either. It is
sad that in a time where our children are being encouraged by the President of the United States to get out and
exercise, parks like yours are setting up obstacles and discouraging use. The next time budget cuts threaten
services the citizens need and use, I hope more creative solutions are explored.
A very disappointed former park user,
Jeff Hanson
5252 Vincent Ave. N.
Minneapolis, MN 55430
(612)-588-5359
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W A T E R S H E D D I S T R I C T
Engineering Advisor:
Barr Engineering Co.
4700 West 77th Street
Suite 200
Minneapolis, MN 55435
Ph. 832-2600
July 24, 2003
Conservation League of Edina
Attn: Jeanne K. Hanson
6708 Cornelia Drive
Edina MN 55435
Subject: Lake Cornelia Project
Dear Members,
Legal Advisor:
Krebsbach & Haik
701 4th Avenue South
Suite 500
Minneapolis, MN 55415
Ph. 333-7400
The Board of Managers of the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District expresses their
support for your conservation efforts. In response to your presentation, the Board of
Managers has approved to undertake a study of uses attainable in Edina Lakes, including
Lake Cornelia. The proposed 2004 Annual Budget intends commencement of this study.
These comprehensive assessments are an excellent means and necessary to designing and
installing protection facilities. An illustration of the character and components of the
proposed study is the Bryant Lake Use Attainabiliy Analysis recently completed.
The Board of Managers recognizes rain water gardens can, appropriately placed
and maintained, provide significant reductions in sediment loads and related pollutants.
The Board of Managers is concerned whether the proposed locations will be effective and
encourage further consideration of the locations. The Managers will likewise analyze
infiltration as a component of the planned study. TJnon completion of the study, the
Board of Managers is prepared to undertake, with municipal cooperation, projects needed
to implement recommendations. An illustration of the character and components of these
projects is the Minnetonka Lakes Basic Water Management Project presently underway.
Neighborhood meetings have played an important and intregal role in this project.
The Board of Managers of the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District also
recognizes the importance of grants by the Board of Water and Soil Resources to further
these efforts and supports appropriate grant awards. The Board of Managers is
committed to protecting and enhancing lakes within the Nine Mile Creek Watershed
District.
If any additional information can be provided, please advise.
Board of Managers
Aileen Kulak - Bloomington Floyd Laumann - Bloomington Bob Kojetin - Edina
LuAnn Tolliver - Minnetonka Corrine Lynch - Edina
Conservation League of Edina
July 24, 2003
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Sincerely,
NNE MILE CREEK
WATERSHED DISTRICT
By
LuAnn Tolliver, President
cc: C, -54r. John Keprios, Park & Rec, City of Edina
Mr. Wayne Houle, Engineer, City of Edina
Mr. Gordon Hughes, City Manager, City of Edina
John Keprios
From: Tom Shirley
snt: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:50 PM
a: John Keprios
Subject: Adventure Peak
Hi John,
FYI for the Park Board meeting. In the 40 days since we opened Adventure Peak we have brought in $21, 726 in Playpark
revenues. At that rate we would bring in almost $200,000 for the first full year. Playpark revenues have broken down to
42% Edina residents and 58% non-residents. Before the Playpark we only had about 24% resident usage. It's nice to see
Edina residents starting to come back to the Park!
Tom
John Keprios
From: Ed MacHolda
ant: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:58 PM
a: John Keprios
Subject: Park Board Updates
John,
Tonight at the Park Board meeting you were looking for two playground equipment updates. The first one listed on the
agenda is Normandale Park. The status of Normandale Park is as follows; old playground equipment, curbing and safety
surface was removed by the City of Edina a week ago. On Monday, October 13th Koolmo Construction came in and did
the site grading for curb work which is scheduled for Thursday, October 16th. Once the curb work is done Koolmo
construction will be installing Timberform Playground Equipment which will most likely begin Monday, October 20th. After
the playground equipment is installed Koolmo Construction will backfill the play container with pea rock and complete the
concrete work.
The second playground site is Sherwood Park. Sherwood Park is now complete with the exception of the rubberized
safety surface. The crew contracted to do the rubberized safety surface should be on site by late next week. Again, I
would like to thank you for letting me attend Ashley's Sectional Championship game tonight.
Ed
Hello Mr. Engen:
• Thank you for your email. I would first like to respond to
your comments regarding "questionable expenditures on the
park,"
Regarding the rubber resilient surface installed within the
playground equipment container, it was done along with
eight other playground sites to meet ADA (Americans With
Disabilities Act) requirements because we received a
complaint from an Edina resident who has a disability. At
the time we purchased and installed these nine playgrounds
in 1996, I intentionally did not install the rubber
resilient surface in efforts to save tax payers some money
with the intent to add the accessible surface only when and
if we ever received a complaint, which is how much of ADA
works. The law has been refined and today all new
playground equipment installation now must be installed
with this expensive resilient surface as required by
federal law.
Regarding the asphalt surface around the building, this is
an improvement that we are making to all of our shelter
buildings where the roof drip line wears at the soils
beneath the roof line, which leads to mud, dirty carpet,
and helds drain water away from the building.
I appreciate your comments about reducing the hours of
operation at Todd Park. It is the opinion of our legal
counsel that we should never leave a park shelter building,
such as the one in Todd Park, open to the public
unattended, without a responsible adult "in charge." I
will pass your comments along to the Park Board for their
consideration.
Respectfully,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
(952) 826-0430
(952) 826-0390 FAX
JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
From: John Engen [mailto:jrengen@mn.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:16 AM
To: jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: Todd Park skating rink
4520 Oxford Ave.
Edina, MN 55436
October 13, 2003
John Keprios
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 W. 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424
Re: Todd Park skating rink
Dear Mr. Keprios:
Hi. My name is John Engen, and I'm writing regarding
the city's tentative plans for the Todd Park skating rink
this winter. My family ranks among the
most -frequent users of the rink. My two daughters, wife and
I visit it three or four times a week during January and
early -February, and would hate to see access to it
restricted.
We moved to Edina four years ago, and chose our house
in large part because of its promixity to the park. My
family developed an affection for skating at our previous
residence, and considered being within walking distance to
a rink among our key selection criteria.
I understand the budget issues, and would like to find
a way around them. (I have to wonder about recent
questionable expenditures on the park. These
include the foam -rubber surface near the playground
equipment - a hazard that has caused virtually everyone I
know, including myself, to slip and fall - and the recent
asphalt addition ringing the warming house, a job that
was initiated a day before the annual Todd Park
neighborhood party, which seemed odd. In comparison, paying
an attendant for a couple less nights a week seems paltry.
Be that as it may, I'll concede that it's often the
case that the attendant work seems to amount to a paid
homework session. So here's what we think:
- Our family's schedule shapes up as quite busy on
Tuesday and Wednesday nights. These would be the
nights we'd be least -likely to use the rink. This
doesn't fit with the alternatives presented.
- Ideally, the rink could stay open for a couple hours
each night, between 6-8 pm. This seems to be the time
when the most usage occurs.
- Given the choice between 'option #1' and 'option #21,
we'd favor option 2, with an addendum: is there any way
that someone in our neighborhood (I'd volunteer), and
perhaps a couple other small nearby neighborhoods, could be
holders of keys, so there would be access to the warming
house and lights on off days?
Overall, Thursdays and Fridays seem to me the most -
popular nights for rink use, so it seems a shame to have
such a nice facility closed those nights. Those are our
thoughts. We don't necessarily feel that an attendant is a
required, but do want to ensure access. Surely there must
be a way to accommodate that desire. We'd be happy to be
part of the solution.
Please feel free to call at 929-5820 if you'd like to
discuss this further.
And thanks for your time and effort.
Regards,
John Engen
Review of Parks
Andy Finsness
PAMELA PARK
Features:
• Good tennis court
• Watershed upgrade good
• Path around park
• Great woods
• Parking lot good by soccer fields
• Soccer fields good
• Baseball good
• Pamela Lake beautiful
• No litter
CHOWEN PARK
Features
• Nice basketball court
• Nice covered picnic area
• Playground all works
• Clean
YORK PARK
Features:
• Nice river access
• Good sledding hill
• Clean
ARDEN
Features:
• Great entry, plants etc.
• Highly utilized
• Nice river access
• New playground equipment
• Brent Hall says "hi" to Ed McHolda
Improvements:
• Pot holes in drive by tennis courts
• Rusty light poles at hockey rink
• Many trees down by river from
storm
• Swings tangled up
• Slider does not work on playground
equipment
• Neighbor thought soccer games went
too late —10:00-11:OOpm
• Kids lighting fireworks a lot
Improvements:
• Smooth out ground by back stop
• Playground missing one handle
Improvements:
• Patrons would like bathroom access
• Slider does not work, missing wheel
• Tighten firemans pole
• Fountain always get clogged in
summer
• Dangerous sand on asphalt and path
at bottom of hill