HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-06-13 Park Board PacketEDINA PARK BOARD PARK TOUR SCHEDULE
6:00 P.M. — Depart from City Hall
Lewis Park
Edina Aquatic Center
Off -Leash Dog Site 54" & France Ave.
Weber Park
Wooddale Park
Utley Park
7:20 p.m. Return to City Hall
EDINA PARK BOARD MEETING
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
EDINA CITY HALL
AGENDA
* 1. Approval of Tuesday, May 9, 2000, Park Board Minutes
*2. Off -leash Dog Site.
3. Results of Lewis Park Bandy/Soccer Field Study.
4. Updates:
A. City/School Referendum Update.
B. Grandview Square - Sherwood Park.
C. Skate Park.
D. Fishing Pier Grand Opening.
5. Other
*6. Adjournment.
* These are agenda items that require or request Park Board action.
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Memo
To: Edina Park Board.
From: John Keprios, Directr
Edina Park and Recreati n Department
Date: June 7, 2000
Re: June 13, 2000, PARK BOARD MEETING STAFF REPORT.
Enclosed you should find the following items:
1. Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Park Board Agenda.
2. Tuesday, May 9, 2000, Park Board Minutes.
3. Feasibility Study Lewis Park Bandy/Soccer Field.
4. Letter from Perry Smith.
5. Letter and Map to Weber Park Neighborhood and Dog Owners.
6. Response from C.E. Brown.
7. Letter from Cristy Holden.
8. E-mail from and my response to Mrs. Janovy.
9. Letter from Kurt and Sarah Erickson.
10. Response from Jay Sandgren.
11. Letter from Richard Eichorn.
12. Letter from Linda Helland.
13. Response from Mary Watson.
14. Response from unknown source May 261''
15. Letter from Darcy Winter.
16. E-mail from and response to Kevin Wilson.
17. E-mail from Joe Lewis.
18. Letter from George Watson.
19. Letter from Maria Fesenmaier.
20. Letters from John Menke to the Park Board and City Council.
21. Letter from me to John Menke.
EDINA PARK BOARD
7:30 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MAY 9, 2000
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chuck Mooty, Scott Housh, Andy Finsness, David Fredlund, Karla
Sitek, Linda Presthus, Tom White
MEMBERS ABSENT: Andy Herring, Floyd Grabiel, George Klus, John Murrin
STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton, Wayne Houle
OTHERS PRESENT: Gregg Bjork, Pete Anderson, Tom Bates, Barbara Hultmann,
Josephine Kleiber
I. APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 11, 2000 PARK BOARD MINUTES
Chuck Mooty MOVED TO APPROVE THE APRIL 11, 2000 PARK BOARD
MINUTES. Andy Finsness SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED.
II. YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION PRESENTATIONS
A. Edina Soccer Association - Pete Anderson, President of the Edina Soccer Association,
gave a brief history of the Edina Soccer Association. He indicated that it started in 1973
and was initially for grades 3`d - 12`h. The program is now open to pre -kindergartners
through 12' graders. Mr. Anderson pointed out that this year there are more than 2,500
participants to which half of them are playing at the two youngest levels, 5 to 8 year-olds.
There are 178 teams who will be playing on the fields this summer. Mr. Anderson
explained that one of the advantages of having a lot of participants is that it allows them
to keep their registration fees relatively low. Mr. Anderson noted that they also have a
fall program, which is a smaller scale program, and runs for 6 weeks on Saturdays and
Sundays.
Mr. Anderson explained that they have put some of their extra money towards
improvements to help both the Soccer Association and the city continue to move forward.
He commented that a few weeks ago the Edina Soccer Association was fortunate enough
to accept the honor for the Mayor's Community Endowment Commendation Award for
their contribution of irrigation systems at Highlands Park and Strachauer Park. He
pointed out that this was an $8,000 project that they were able to fund with some of their
surplus from last year. Also, last year they bought the backings for some of the soccer
nets around the city because they were concerned with kids getting caught up in them and
twisting an ankle, etc. He noted'that the Edina Soccer Association will continue to look
for other opportunities to help make improvements to their program.
Mr. Anderson read the Edina Soccer Association's mission statement. He stated that a lot
of people ask what is the difference between the Edina Soccer Association and the Edina
Soccer Club (traveling program) and basically what it comes down to is time and money.
Participants in the traveling program are asked to make a much greater commitment of
time and money.
Mr. Anderson explained that the Edina Soccer Association has an all -volunteer board as
well as all -volunteer coaches. He noted that they really stress to their coaches to work on
building individual skills, they don't necessarily ask them to talk about strategy or set
plays, etc. They want the participants to feel at the end of the season that they've had fun
and they've improved their soccer skills and had a chance to play with some of their
friends. It's a pretty low key league.
Mr. Anderson thanked Mr. Keprios, Mr. MacHolda and all of the park and recreation
staff for all of their help. Everyone does a great job.
Mr. Mooty asked Mr. Anderson what are the biggest issues that the Edina Soccer
Association faces right now. Mr. Anderson replied that it is finding enough facilities for
the younger age groups. He noted that they are also concerned with the drop-off in
numbers at the older age group levels. Mr. Anderson noted that another struggle for them
is finding enough coaches and explained that currently they are trying to provide a
standardized training session for coaches to attend to get comfortable with how to run a
practice, get some skills and drills that they can transfer to their team, especially at the
younger age level.
Mr. Keprios commented that soccer is by far the largest sport in Edina. He also noted
that this is the second time that the Edina Soccer has received the Mayor's Community
Endowment Commendation award.
B. Edina Basketball Association - Gregg Bjork, Vice -President of the Edina Basketball
Association, indicated that the Edina Basketball Association serves both the traveling and
house programs for Edina. Therefore, they need to find the difference between balancing
fun and competitive teams and winning, etc. Mr. Bjork then read the Edina Basketball
Association's mission statement. He noted that they struggle to balance the goals of fun,
development and winning and there is a wide diverse range of opinions in the community
in terms of how youth sports should be run.
Mr. Bjork explained that the basketball program is for grades 151 through 9`". He noted
that 1st and 2nd graders are in what is called the pee wee program and is co-ed. The Yd
through 9' graders are mostly boys with a few girls playing. Mr. Bjork indicated that the
traveling program is for grades 5`h through 7d'. However, last year they did have a
traveling for 8' graders as well.
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Mr. Bjork pointed out that this year they had over 1,100 participants, 990 were in the
house league and 120 were in the traveling league, there were three traveling teams at
each grade level (5" through 8t' grade). There were 123 teams in the house league,
averaging between 8 and 10 players on a team, which in basketball is a lot. Mr. Bjork
explained that one of their goals was to increase the number of events, which they did.
Last year there were 16 events and this year they had 22 events. He noted that the
registration fee this year was $75.00, which was the first increase they have had in four
years. Mr. Bjork thanked Mr. Keprios, Mr. MacHolda and the rest of the park and
recreation staff for all of their hard work.
Mr. Bjork indicated that the Edina Basketball Association really promotes parent
information sessions, they put on a coaches clinic and they have a very good relationship
with the varsity basketball program. He commented that this year they offered three
skills and drills clinics as part of the $75.00 registration fee. He noted that they also
sponsored a three on three tournament at the end of the year.
Mr. Bjork pointed out that the Edina Basketball Association put in the new basketball
courts at Utley Park and also put in the basketball courts several years ago at Weber Park.
In addition they have donated the new basketball boards to all of the schools and have
also donated the concession stand, weight room and a few other items. He stated that the
Edina Basketball Association will continue to make improvements to the community,
whether it's to the school or city.
Mr. Bjork indicated that this is the first year that the 7' and 8"' graders played games on
Saturdays, which worked out well. He explained that they cannot get into the schools
until after 6:00 p.m. and noted that they try to have the younger kids play at the earlier
times. He pointed out that there is a 2 to 3 hour window in each one of the school
gymnasiums in which they have to process 990 kids through.
Mr. Bjork indicated that one of the challenges they are facing is their number of
participants is up as well as the increase in the usage of gyms by multiple sports,
especially by EGGA basketball which is growing by leaps and bounds. Currently the
girls in-house basketball plays in the fall as opposed to winter to avoid some of the
gymnasium issues. However, as their sport continues to grow there are more and more
demands.
Mr. Bjork stated another challenge for EBA has been in communicating with the schools.
He noted that they are very dependent on the schools because they own all of the facilities
and each school operates its own entity a little differently. Therefore, Mr. MacHolda and
himself met with all of the principals and janitorial staff to help make the communication
process a little better this year. Therefore, the biggest challenge that they face right now
is finding enough adequate facilities for the number of participants who enjoy the sport.
Mr. White asked if having 8 to 10 kids on a team is an optimum number to which Mr.
Bjork replied yes, they wouldn't want to have less than 8 kids on a team.
• Mr. Keprios indicated that one of the good things they are looking at with the referendum
is negotiating a joint powers agreement which would include a centralized scheduling
system so there would no longer be a problem with last minute cancellations and
rescheduling like there currently is.
C. EDINA YOUTH SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION - Josephine Kleiber, President of
Edina Youth Softball Association (EYSA), indicated that their mission statement is
almost identical to the Edina Soccer Associations. She explained that EYSA is a slow
pitch organization and up until this year has always been a girls program. This year they
are starting a co-ed league at the upper levels. She noted that there are basically three
parts to the program. They have the in-house program for grades 1 through 8. They
have three tournament teams which is for girls who play with the in-house league as well
as they play in 2 to 4 tournaments throughout the summer. Lastly, they have two
traveling teams (U-14 and U-16) in which they only participate in an intra -community
league. Last year they played approximately 60 games. Ms. Kleiber explained that the
reason why these other teams were started was because the girls wanted different levels
of competition. Therefore, the in-house leagues provides a safe environment for learning
the skills and having a good time. The tournament teams take them one step up where
they begin to see what softball is like in other communities and it demands a little bit
more out of their skills. The traveling teams are still at a recreational level but they are
not quite an elite team.
Ms. Kleiber explained the reason they started a co-ed league in grades 8' through 12`" is
because they have tried to maintain an in-house program at this level but the teams were
constantly disintegrating over the course of the season because the girls at that age had so
many other things going on. They always had a core group that really wanted to
participate but not enough to keep an in-house league going and that is why they decided
to start a co-ed league. She noted that as far as she is aware of they are the only slow
pitch organization in the state right now at the pre -senior level.
Ms. Kleiber indicated that there are 18 volunteer board members and each member serves
a three-year term. This year they are down a little bit in their number of participants
because of some registration problems and a few other things. She noted that they
average between 500 and 600 participants each year.
Ms. Kleiber indicated that the EYSA has recently made some improvements at five
different softball fields. She stated that they have also been putting in safety fencing at a
lot of the fields.
Ms. Kleiber commented that during the last three years EYSA has had some enormous
improvements. Last year they went to ASA rules and went to an outside source for
umpires, which have made things a lot easier. This has also improved the quality of
umpires. Also, last Saturday they had their third annual skills clinic and noted that in the
future they are hoping to institute more skills training clinics during the course of the year
to help both the participants and the coaches. She noted that they do have a shortage of
coaches at the older levels. Ms. Kleiber explained that they have also used an evaluation
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sheet for each player at the end of the season to help keep the teams balanced for the
following year and it seems to have really helped.
Ms. Kleiber pointed out that one of the things they would like to see down the road is a
batting cage, that is one area that they really need to work on.
Ms. Kleiber noted that their biggest challenge is helping with the umpire association to
make sure they are developing umpires and will have umpires down the road. Their
umpires are basically 13 and 14 year-old girls and currently they are down to about 90%
of what they were last year.
Ms. Presthus indicated that with the potential referendum they are talking about building
a football field on artificial turf and asked if EYSA would be interested in using
something like that during the winter or spring. Ms. Kleiber responded that possibly the
traveling teams would be interested but she doesn't think that in-house teams would.
Ms. Presthus asked how long is the EYSA season to which Ms. Kleiber replied the in-
house season starts May 10' with play-offs being held the week of July 10`", it's a fairly
short season. The traveling teams had try -outs in March and they play through the end of
July.
Mr. Fredlund asked if there is any cross over between Edina Girls Fast Pitch and EYSA
to which Ms. Kleiber responded they do get some coming over from fast pitch and some
the slow pitch girls do go over to fast pitch. Mostly the contact they have with each other
is on scheduling.
Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that EYSA used to fall under the Edina Girls
Athletic Association and they grew so quickly in numbers that they became their own
group and continued to use EGAA as a parent group and shared insurance costs, etc. Mr.
Keprios explained that it used to be a daytime program but with so many single parent
families and both parents working it switched to be an evening program. That is another
reason why there is a shortage of fields.
Mr. Keprios pointed out that the youth athletic associations are an example of the City's
and this Department's greatest assets in the community which are our volunteers. They
are phenomenal.
III. PAMELA PARK STORM WATER RETENTION POND PROPOSAL
Wayne Houle, Assistant City Engineer, explained to the Park Board a few projects that
will be taking place at Pamela Park and Strachauer Park. The first project is the sanitary
sewer project that goes back to the back-ups they had in 1997 where basements were
flooded. He noted that they have already done two major sewer diversion projects and
this one at Pamela Park will be the last one. These areas gather sewage that flow into
pipes and different lift stations and then go into other districts. Mr. Houle then showed a
presentation on the background of the sanitary sewer. He explained that with Pamela
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Park they are going to take a portion of it and reroute it out of the city. He pointed out
that it will not affect the playground area at all.
Mr. Houle explained that in 1997 the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District approached
all of the municipalities within the watershed district asking to identify pipes that could
potentially be used for regional pond use. He noted that they felt the Pamela Park area
could be a potential site for some regional ponds. He stated that they felt it would be a
good water quality project to re -divert the flow into three systems of ponds and then back
into the wetland that exists in the Pamela Park area. Again, he noted that the area they
are looking at is an unscheduled play area and feels it would be a good area to place these
ponds.
Mr. Houle commented that a group of neighbors who live along Pamela Lake have
actually petitioned the city to help them out in rehabilitating the lake. The lake has filled
up with organics, etc., throughout the years and is very shallow. He noted that some
people who have lived in that area all of their lives have indicated that they used to swim
and fish in the lake. Therefore, part of the project has been working with the DNR, Corp
of Engineers and MTCA to dredge the lake. He explained they wouldn't dredge the
whole lake but rather a portion of it in the middle to create more depth storage for the
water, water quality, fishery, etc.
Mr. Houle indicated that the majority of the funding for this is coming from the
Minnehaha Creek Watershed District. He noted that the only part that the city will be
picking up is the nature trail that will go through the area.
Mr. Houle stated that right now there is a public hearing scheduled with the Watershed
District on July 27`' for this project. After that meeting it will go back to the city where
they will decide on the project and from there it will be bid and then awarded. Currently,
they are looking at constructing the pond in the fall of 2000 along with the dredging of
Pamela Lake.
Mr. White asked if they are going to stock Pamela Lake with fish to which Mr. Houle
replied there has been talk about stocking the lake as well as putting in fish streams to
keep the carp and rough fish out.
Ms. Presthus asked if she is correct in saying that they will not be losing any playable
green space to which Mr. Keprios responded that is debatable because some of the green
space is already not in very useable condition. He noted that the area just north of 58`''
Street used to be a pretty good practice area that was never scheduled, however, since
they put in the underground storage tank with above ground mechanical equipment in the
middle of the practice area, the site has become unplayable for field sport practices.
Therefore, this seems to be a good area for this and makes sense. Mr. Houle pointed out
that Pamela Park used to be 2/3 wetlands before they started filling it in.
Mr. Mooty asked if this will impact the skating area during the winter to which Mr.
Houle responded that it should remain the same. Mr. Fredlund asked if the ponds could
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be used for ice skating to which Mr. Houle responded they possibly could but he never
recommends skating on storm water ponds.
Mr. White asked with the exception of where the ponds would be installed will any other
trees be taken down. Mr. Houle replied there is a potential tree that may need to come
out but they are going to try to protect it. For every tree that is taken out 2 to 3 trees will
be planted within the park to replace every one that is lost.
Mr. Houle indicated that with Strachauer Park they are working with Mr. MacHolda on
the scheduling of the park. They may need to slide the soccer goals over a little bit
during construction but there will not be any safety issues. He noted that will probably be
done in June or July.
Barbara Hultmann, resident, stated that she has lived in the Pamela Park neighborhood
for 46 years and noted that most of the houses were established in the area before the park
was filled in. She noted that there were hundreds and hundreds of truckloads of fill
brought in because Pamela Park was wetlands back then. She noted that at one of the
meetings they went to there were some environmentalists who were concerned about the
plan because it's an unnatural thing that we are doing to the park. However, actually it's
going back to somewhat of its original natural state. Ms. Hultmann explained that her
concern stems from the fact that so many of her neighbors have had their homes flooded.
She noted that she knows they are going to get a lot of relief with the sanitary sewer
storage tank that holds 300,000 gallons.
Ms. Hultmann indicated that she senses this is maybe being done because we are getting
money from the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District because it suits them. She wants to
be assured that when those rains happen again there is a place where it can go. Mr. Houle
then explained exactly how the diversion will work.
Linda Presthus MOVED TO ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. Dave Fredlund
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
IV. DONATIONS/MEMORIALS POLICY
Mr. Keprios gave a presentation showing the different plaques, that are currently at
Wooddale Park. He indicated that because of the current policy there are park users who
are complaining that their parks are starting to look like cemeteries. He noted that the
question is how long do we keep these permanent plaques in the ground and whose
expense is it when they are worn out, broken or vandalized. He then asked how do we
determine how many plaques are appropriate for a park. What dollar amount donation is
worthy of a permanent marker in a park. He noted that currently any dollar amount is
okay as long as we receive a bench or something the park can use.
Mr. Keprios pointed out that some of the drawbacks with the proposed policy is that there
is clearly going to be a loss of potential future donations. People won't donate in some
cases because it's more important to them to have recognition than it is to improve the
park. He stated that some people may say the proposed policy caters to the wealthy. Mr.
Keprios commented that it's also going to be difficult to remove whatever plaques we
currently have in the ground.
Mr. Keprios explained that some of the positive things with the proposed policy is that
it's going to reduce the number of future plaques. It's also going to give some temporary
and permanent recognition to those who donate as well as serve the needs and interests of
the future park users. We need to look at what is in the best interest of the park user and
the community at large.
Mr. Keprios indicated that in the policy he is proposing there are different categories at
which people would get recognized, all the way down to $300.00. However, if someone
wants a permanent plaque it would cost a minimum of $5,000. Mr. Keprios pointed out
that he recognizes that this is a very sensitive issue. Again, he noted that he feels the
permanent plaque issue is getting out of control and he is open to any suggestions from
the Park Board.
Mr. Fredlund noted that he agrees, when he walks around some of the parks they do look
a little bit like a memorial garden in some places. Mr. Housh asked if there have been a
lot of donations of a significant dollar amount such as $5,000 to $20,000. Mr. Keprios
responded that typically those types of donations are not as common. The park benches
and drinking fountains are a lot more common. Mr. Fredlund asked how much does a
park bench cost to which Mr. Keprios responded approximately $300.00 for everything.
Mr. Keprios pointed out that the City of Minneapolis has had a policy in place for the
past several years indicating that no plaques are allowed for donations under $5,000.
Mr. White stated that some of the other problems are that the plaques are wearing down
and the benches are falling apart, therefore, what do we do about that. Mr. Keprios
replied that he is dealing with those on a case by case basis.
Mr. Fredlund asked if it would better if it didn't say "In Memory Of' along with dates of
birth and death, but to just put the name. Mr. Keprios said that is the Park Board's call.
Mr. White noted that sometimes it's nice to hear a story behind a certain plaque. Mr.
Keprios stated that he is a proponent of preserving and promoting history but to dwell on
the grief process and put it in our parks is where he has a problem. Mr. Mooty pointed
out that the way the proposed policy is written is the Park and Recreation Director has the
discretion of reviewing what's being written on.the plaques and use their judgment as to
what is appropriate and where to place it, etc. Mr. White noted that if someone is
donating $10,000 and have indicated what they want, the Park Board should probably
give the final approval. Mr. Keprios responded that he would be very happy with that
process. Mr. Keprios noted that the majority of donations are $300.00 or smaller. Mr.
Housh suggested the donation for a plaque start at $10,000 and that way it would come
up once every so many years. Ms. Presthus stated that we may lose a lot of $300.00 park
benches that way to which Mr. Keprios replied yes, but the truth is we don't really need
that many more benches.
Chuck Mooty MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S PROPOSAL. Linda Presthus
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
V. UPDATES
A. Grandview Square - Sherwood Park - Mr. Keprios commented that at the last Park
Board meeting the recommendation was made by Park Board to go back to the drawing
board and try to come up with a new plan that used very little or preferably no park land
to develop this site. He indicated that they have come up with a plan that will be brought
before the City Council at their next meeting. He then showed the Park Board what the
new plan looks like and noted that he feels it is a much better design and the park is
slightly larger.
B. Skate Park - Mr. Keprios indicated that he has been meeting with Greg Hanks from
the YMCA and with the Park and Recreation Directors from Bloomington and Richfield
and noted that they have been looking at different skate park sites. He stated that Edina,
Richfield and Bloomington would help pay for a joint effort to build a skate park at the
YMCA in which the YMCA would run it, cover all liability expenses, staffing, etc. Mr.
Keprios then gave a presentation on what the skate park looks like in Hudson, Wisconsin
and explained their project. He noted that they have had very few problems with
behavioral issues. Mr. Keprios stated that when all of the information is put together he
will give a formal presentation to the Park Board.
C. Off -Leash Dog Site - Mr. Keprios indicated that he attended the Minneapolis Park
Board public hearing last week regarding all of their dog sites. He then showed a map of
Weber Park and showed the area which is owned by the Minneapolis Public Works
Department. He stated that he recently met with some representatives from the
Minneapolis Park Board, the Park Director from St. Louis Park and some Park Board
members and they agreed if this is done it needs to be expanded to about a four -acre site.
He noted that Minneapolis claims they don't have the dollars to accommodate this right
now. He noted that he also informed them that they would have to develop some
parking, he then showed on the map where the parking could be placed.
Mr. Keprios explained that what took place at the Minneapolis Park Board meeting was
they put all of their different proposals up and voted on each one individually. He
commented that the only two people who spoke to this proposal were Minneapolis
residents who spoke very highly in favor of it. He stated that the Park Commissioners
who attended that meeting were very sensitive to the other pre jurisdictions they have to
deal with regarding this property. He noted that they have approved it preliminarily on
their success at working with the three other jurisdictions. Mr. Keprios indicated that
they did not charge forward without recognizing that they had to deal with our ordinances
and meeting some of the demands that have been put forth.
Mr. Keprios asked the Park Board if they feel a mailing should be done to the
neighborhood so that we can respond to their comments and questions. We would
essentially make it a public hearing to get their views on the subject and then have the
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Park Board make a recommendation either for or against it. Mr. Keprios noted that he
thinks this is a great opportunity and pointed out that people already use it as an -off leash
dog site. He commented that people bring their own bags and garbage cans and it's
immaculate. Mr. Housh stated that he thought kids rode their bikes all through that area
to which Mr. Keprios responded that they do. Mr. Housh asked why it can't just be left
the way it is to which Mr. Keprios replied that it's in the city ordinance that you can't let
your dog run off of a leash. If a dog is running wild they are subject to a fine. Mr. Mooty
asked if a path could be created outside of the gated area. If they are losing a walking
path or a bike path he would think that would be a big issue for the neighbors. Mr. White
stated that he thinks the Park Board needs to find out what the neighbors think about this.
Mr. Keprios noted that in defense for the dog park there currently are no off -leash sites in
Edina whereas there are a lot of places for kids to ride their bikes. Mr. Mooty
commented that he was just wondering if there is a way that we could have both. Mr.
Keprios replied that would be tough because ultimately the area will surrounded by a
four -foot high fence. Mr. Mooty asked what is the reasoning for having it larger to which
Mr. Keprios responded the larger the better to give the dogs their exercise and their space
as well as avoid dog to dog confrontations.
Mr. Keprios indicated that one of the opponents to a different dog site in Minneapolis
was that they felt it was selfish of the dog owner to think they could have one special area
just for themselves when it's a public park. Mr. Fredlund asked if this would be the only
off -leash dog park in the Minneapolis area to which Mr. Keprios replied no.
Ms. Presthus asked how many dogs could use it at one time and how much use will it
actually get. Mr. Keprios replied that he hopes it will get a lot of use and that it will be
self -managed. In other words, if there are dogs present, people will probably leave and
come back at a later time.
Mr. Mooty commented that if a mailing is done to just the neighborhood residents he
would guess that 90% of them will be opposed to this idea. Therefore, we wouldn't
really be getting the proper perspective of the Edina residents by just limiting it to the
neighbors. Mr. White asked if Edina has a dog licensing structure and if so we could also
send a mailing to the dog owners so that their comments can be heard.
Mr. White pointed out that twice in the last four years residents have come before the
Park Board asking for a special dog park in Edina, once at Bredesen Park and once at
Todd Park. There is a desire out there by some of the Edina residents. Mr. Keprios
commented that the Chief of Police does not fully support his recommendation because it
could potentially result in additional enforcement calls for their department. Mr. Keprios
stated that he thinks there would be even more headaches, however, if we owned the land
and ran it entirely ourselves. Ms. Presthus asked if someone got bit by a dog whose
problem would it be. Mr. Keprios responded as he stated in his letter he would want it to
become a Minneapolis Park Board matter to enforce.
It was decided that Mr. Keprios will inform the neighborhood as well as the dog owners
of the current situation and they will be asked to voice any of their comments or concerns
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at the next Park Board meeting. Mr. Keprios indicated that at the next Park Board
meeting he will make a recommendation to the Park Board which would then go on to the
City Council. Mr. Mooty suggested that he feels it needs to be pointed out that from the
staff's perspective this is the most appropriate spot for an off -leash dog site. He noted that
what he feels this does is it creates greater credibility to the process because if you really
think about it if there truly is a need for one it basically comes down what is the best
location for it.
Ms. Sitek asked how much choice do we have in the matter to which Mr. Keprios replied
that he would say we have a lot. They have to abide by our ordinances as much as we
have to abide by theirs if we were in their city.
D. Lewis Park Bandy Rink/Soccer Field Study - Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board
that the architect didn't get the Lewis Park soil boring results in time so he doesn't have a
report ready to present. Therefore, it will have to wait until the June or July Park Board
meeting.
E. City/School Referendum Update - Mr. Keprios indicated that the City Council has
voted to have a public hearing on Tuesday, May 16`h at 5:00 p.m. At that public hearing
he will be giving a brief presentation followed by the architect, Pete Sieger, who will also
give a presentation.
Mr. Keprios pointed out that in 1975 there was a referendum with three questions on the
ballot, one failed by 105 votes, one passed by 268 votes and one passed by 45 votes. The
referendum in 1996 passed by 2,364 votes. Mr. Keprios commented that he attributes
that to getting out into the community and informing the residents of what the initiative is
and what is included. He noted that he doesn't see this referendum being any different,
because people want and deserve to be informed. Mr. Keprios then showed where all of
the money went on the last referendum. Mr. Keprios explained that of the 32 million
dollar referendum that's being considered only 4.5 million would be spent on City owned
property and that does not include what he sees to be all of their needs. He noted that he
is still banking on the fact that they are going to have a capital improvement plan in place
this year.
Mr. White asked if the dollar amount listed is the same that was voted on at the Park
Board meeting in February. Mr. Keprios replied that the only thing that did not get into
the referendum that the Park Board recommended was the tennis court lighting. Mr.
Mooty commented that the dollar amount was also bumped up because of the pool
situation. Mr. Fredlund asked Mr. Keprios if he is comfortable with these numbers to
which Mr. Keprios replied that he thinks they are rather high. He then explained that the
architect stated in a joint meeting recently that he feels very comfortable with these
numbers.
F. Revised Park Board Meeting Schedule Reminder (Wed., Sept. 13). - Mr. Keprios
pointed out that the September Park Board meeting will be held on Wednesday,
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September 13`h because of the Primary Election being held on September 12`h. He noted
that he is still planning on having dinner and playing putt putt golf.
VI. TWO YOUTH PARK BOARD POSITIONS PROPOSALS
Mr. Keprios indicated that he is asking for the Park Board's approval to go forward with
his recommendation to fill the next two Park Board member vacancies with two youths.
This would be in keeping with the "Connecting Kids Vision". Mr. Fredlund asked whose
call this would be to which Mr. Keprios replied that it would ultimately be the Mayor's
call. However, he would like the Park Board to make that recommendation to the
Mayor.
Ms. Presthus commented that there are two youth who sit on the Community Education
Services Board and they do a couple of things, however, there is usually only one who
shows up. She indicated that she thinks choosing them is really the key. Two youth
could be two nothing positions or they could be really valuable.
Mr. Fredlund asked if they would serve a full three-year term or would it be done
annually. Mr. Keprios replied that they would be a regular Park Board member and
would serve a three year term, however, you might suggest that it be only a two year term
or try it for a year and see what happens. Mr. Mooty noted that he thinks it's a good
move, his only issue is that by eliminating two senior positions would we have a broad
enough perspective by reducing versus just adding new Park Board members. Mr.
Keprios noted that he thinks 13 members is too many and with 12 members you end up
with split votes.
Mr. White noted that he has a problem with setting aside someone from the senior end.
Mr. Keprios explained that the initiative here is to send a message to the youth
community, we value our youth and hold them in high regards. Mr. Housh commented
that they are fairly active users of the parks and it only makes sense. Mr. Mooty
indicated that he thinks youth are less intimated if they have someone else with them,
they might feel more comfortable. Ms. Presthus commented that she doesn't think a
senior should be chosen because there are a lot of ongoing issues that keep coming up and
it's hard to get involved no matter who you are.
Chuck Mooty MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO HAVE ONE YOUTH AT THIS
JUNCTURE AND THAT THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T ADD ONE
MORE AT SOME POINT BUT MOVED THAT WE ADD ONE YOUTH FOR A TWO
YEAR TERM. Scot Housh SECONDED THE MOTION. Ms. Presthus asked to amend
the motion to WHEN A PARK BOARD POSITION BECOMES AVAILABLE.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
VII. OTHER
A. Community Education Services Report - Ms. Presthus reported that they are still
working on putting together a joint calendar that would bring all of the information from
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the community together. The school district and city would still do their own individual
brochures but this would be one that would include everything with key dates.
Ms. Presthus reported that they are also still working on their phone system which would
maybe spill over to the associations where all registrations, etc., could be done by phone.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Andy Finsness MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9:55 P.M. Karla Sitek
SECONDED THE MOTION. MEETING ADJOURNED.
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REMINDER:
THE PARK TOUR BEGINS AT 6:00 P.M. AT CITY HALL
THE PARK BOARD MEETING BEGINS AT 7:30 P.M.
AT CITY HALL
STAFF REPORT
The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with the
exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the agenda for other
information items (not requiring formal action), last minute items that may come up
between now and the Park Board meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board
members and/or attendees.
OFF -LEASH DOG SITE
Representatives from the Minneapolis Park Board and I will be giving a presentation
regarding the proposed off -leash dog site for the area of 541h and France Ave.
• As requested by the Park Board at the May meeting, we have sent notices to over 200
households in Edina nearest the proposed site. We also sent approximately 600 notices to
all those who have current dog licenses in the City of Edina. A copy of the mailing is
enclosed in this packet. It appears from the written feedback that the majority opinion
seems to favor the proposal.
Edina Animal Control Officer, John Carlson, several park staff and I have given
considerable thought to identifying other additional or alternate sites within the City of
Edina for an off -leash dog park. The only two viable alternatives in our opinion would be
the open area behind the water tower at Creek Valley Park and the vast open area in the
southwest corner of Braemar Park. In our opinion, Braemar would be the better of the
two mainly due to its non-residential location. I am not recommending pursuing these
sites at this time. I would prefer that we use the 54th and France Ave. site as a test site.
Edina Animal Control Officer, John Carlson, will also be present to answer any questions.
As I have mentioned in previous staff reports, I recommend that this site be approved as a
viable off -leash dog site for a 2 -year trial period. If the Park Board and City Council
approve of this proposal, this may require a change in the City Code. I also recommend
that all of the demands outlined in my letter to Joan Niemiec must be agreed to by the
Minneapolis Park Board.
Park Board action is requested on this agenda item.
RESULTS OF LEWIS PARK BANDY/SOCCER FIELD STUDY
As requested by the Park Board, I sought a third party professional to study the feasibility
of multiple -use possibilities for the Lewis Park bandy/soccer field. The results of the
Anderson/Johnson Associates study are enclosed for your review.
As you will note, the consultant states that it is financially not feasible or prudent to
pursue a multiple use scenario. In short, his recommendation is to use the field for one
sport or the other because it would be unrealistic to expect a quality field of play for both
sports on the same surface year round.
I am still unable to predict when any funding would be available to renovate the field into
a quality soccer field should the Park Board choose that approach. Based on the
consultant's findings, I would not recommend a long-term course of action to expect to
use the field for both sports.
When funding becomes available to renovate the field, I will be recommending to the
Park Board that the field be converted into a quality soccer field. The Park Board can
make a decision at that time.
Park Board action is not requested on this agenda item at this time.
UPDATES
I will give the Park Board a verbal update on the following issues:
A. City/School Referendum Update.
B. Grandview Square - Sherwood Park.
C. Skate Park.
D. Fishing Pier Grand Opening.
Park Board action is not requested on this agenda item.
OTHER
This is an opportunity for Park Board members and residents to address other
concerns.
Perry M. Smith
4544 Rutledge Avenue S
Edina, MN 55436
612-929-4149
June 5, 2000
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Rec Dept
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Re: Proposed Off -Leash Dog Site
Dear Mr. Keprios:
Thank you for the information concerning the proposed off -leash
dog site. Although I am unable to attend the meeting on June
13th, I am 1000. in favor of this proposal. I feel this is a
wonderful idea, whose time has finally come!
Yours truly,
PERRY M. SMITH
City of Edina
May 19, 2000
Dear Dog Owner:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Park.
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking (off of France Avenue next to the well house - map enclosed). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so in writing to me at the return address on this letterhead.
Sin rely,
John Keprio , Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 826-0379
City of Edina
May 22, 2000
Dear Resident of Weber Park Neighborhood:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Park.
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking (off of France Avenue next to the well house - map enclosed). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so in writing to me at the return address on this letterhead.
Si ely,
J6hn Kepri ,Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 826-0379
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City of Edina
May 19, 2000
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on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Park.
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking (off of France Avenue next to the well house - map enclosed). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so in writing to me at the return address on this letterhead.
Sinc rely,
--�John KepriDirector Wil
Edina Park and Recreation Department /( �, yl
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EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 826-0379
May 25`x, 2000
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation
4801 West 50`h Street
Edina, MN 55434-1394
Thank you for your letter regarding the proposed off -leash
dog park.
I certainly support the concept of an off -leash dog park.
During my years as a resident of Minneapolis, I often
attended Park Board meetings to advocate for this usage.
Having lived in Edina these past 5 years I would love to see
a similar concept introduced in Edina. However, I object to
paying an addition dog license to the city of Minneapolis.
Both my dogs are licensed in Edina, and the animal control
department in Edina is excellent, as are the other services
within Edina. Why can't we have our own dog park here in
Edina? How difficult/expensive would this be? I would
much rather pay an increased fee for Edina dog licenses
and have 2 off -leash parks within our own city. There are
extensive wild life and swamp areas which could be
converted to this use.
I will be out of town on June 13''. Please convey my
thoughts to the City Council.
Cristy Muller Holden
5524 Malibu Drive
Edina, MN 55436-1036
Dear Mrs. Janovy:
Thanks for your e-mail. It is my opinion that all of my suggested demands must
be met in order for this off -leash site to be acceptable in the Edina City limits.
From what I have been told and from what I have seen, there are numerous
dogs left to run free in that location already. I have to believe that a licensed,
patrolled and advertized site will help control the existing condition. I could be
wrong. If so, we reserve the right to eliminate the initiative after the two-year trial
period. If it creates more problems than it solves then we will exercise our right
to eliminate the site.
Thanks for your input.
Sincerely,
John Keprios
From: jennifer janovy[SMTP:jjanovy@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:26 PM
To: JKeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: proposed dog park
Dear Mr. Keprios,
My husband and I hope to attend the June 13 meeting regarding the
proposed
off -leash dog park on land adjacent to Weber Field. We have some questions
in case we can't attend. A couple of weeks ago you e-mailed me a list of
conditions that you sent to Joan Neimac. These conditions were well thought
through and would go far toward making the park safer and less of an impact
on neighbors and the City of Edina. Will any of these conditions be waived
if an agreement is entered in to? Has the City of Minneapolis set aside more
money for the project (at the public meeting they said they had only
$100,000 dollars for all six proposed dog parks. That probably wouldn't pay
for fencing for all six sites, let alone the kind of development this site
needs).
Even if done right we have some reservations about the park in this
location. As you know, there are two elementary schools—Calvin Christian
and
Golden Years—next to the park. Having unleashed dogs and so many
children so
close together will have its risks. Advocates for the park will say that
off -leash behavior outside of the dog park will decrease, but it's unlikely
in this case. People will continue to let their dogs run free in Minnekanda
Vista and Weber Field—and even more people will be attracted to the park
once it's publicized.
Also, this park, probably unlike the other proposed off -leash parks, is
wooded. When dogs are running free they will often be out of their owner's
view. For safety, off -leash dogs should always be within view --an
impossibility at this location.
And finally, traffic through our neighborhood will increase with this
park—even if off-street parking is added on France. The Weber Field and
Calvin Christian lots are just so much easier to get in and out of than
parking off of France would be. Also, many people have already developed
the
habit of parking in these lots to go into the woods and it's unlikely that
habit would change.
We would prefer that the land in question not be made into an off -leash dog
park, but if it is, we hope the City of Edina will enter into an agreement
only if all of the conditions put forth in your letter to Ms. Neimac are met
and the two schools are comfortable with it.
Thanks for your time. Please let me know how some of the concerns brought
up
here will be addressed.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Janovy
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Kurt & Sarah Erickson
4500 Claremore Court
Edina, Minnesota 55435
June 4, 2000
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50' Street
Edina, Minnesota 55424-1394
Off Leash Dog Park
Dear Mr. Keprios,
As dog owners, we strongly support the off leash dog park. Thanks very
much for asking.
Very truly yours,
Kurt Erickson
Very truly yours,
Sarah Erickson
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May 19, 2000
Dear Dog Owner:
City of Edi Ila
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
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The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking toff of France Avenue next to the well house - map encloscd). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board .nneeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so in writing to me at the return address on this letterhead.
Sinc rely,
J i Kepno , irector
Edina Park and Recreation Department
(612) 927-8861
6223 France Ave. So.
Edina, Minnesota
55410
MEES, LLC.
May 30, 2000
Mr. John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
Edina City Hall
4801 West 501" Street
Edinm, Mn 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios,
am very much in favor of the of the proposed off -leash dog site proposed
adjacent to Weber Park. I would definitely be willing to purchase a license for
the same.
My only other comment is that you need more then one of these areas in
Edina. To expect everyone in the city to come to one location that is not
convenient for everyone is extremely unrealistic.
have an English Springer who has to be able to run on a daily basis. I am
relegated to taking my, dog at night, to run in the parks. I have to do that
so I can keep from getting picked up from one of your over zealous park
rangers. They mean well but do not understand that certain dogs have to
run on a daily basis in spite of the law.
I have no problem picking up after my dog, as do most good dog owners. I
pay taxes too and want some more areas for dog runs in the city other
then the one proposed. Certainly, the City of Edina is big enough to
support more then one area.
Sincerely,
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Richard E. Eichhorn
Resident
Real Estate Executive Services, specializing in all facets oCcanituercial real estate. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Linda Helland
5720 McGuire Road
Edina, Mn 55439
June 2, 2000
Dear Minneapolis Park Board:
I am writing to you in regard to the proposal for an off -leash dog site on the property near
42nd and France Avenue. It is a site I am very familiar with, as I have been walking a
succession of family dogs there for almost 20 years. I am a supporter of off -leash areas in
general theory. However, I am opposed to the formal designation of this site for that
purpose at this time. I think that the city should move more cautiously in this case and
table the proposal until adequate assessments are made of the three sites designated
earlier this year. I think, further, that the unique character of the 42nd and France site
warrants special consideration.
Some of the potential problems that concern nearby residents are parking, increased
usage by higher numbers of people and dogs, a broader mix of age groups which could
very well lead to demands for additional and multiple use facilities, regulatory problems,
the need for increased park personnel to regulate and maintain the area, and the resultant
expense. The proposed site also offers one of the few relatively wild areas easily
accessible in the city. As such, it offers a wide range of topography, flora, and wildlife3
all of which would suffer under the proposed plan. Additionally, the proposed size of the
fenced in off -leash area is a fraction of the total acreage of the site. If you build it, they
will come --in great numbers for a too small space.
I urge you to study the other sites first to understand the unforeseen problems that always
accompany a new effort. Please do not approve this plan as written at this time. Once this
area is "improved", its value as a natural area will certainly decrease -irrevocably. Perhaps
the planned, planted, fenced sites with parking areas are best placed on park land that has
already been in use in more highly urbanized settings or in areas which are intended to
meet all the recreational needs of all the people.
Please do not pass this proposal .
Sincerely,
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Linda Helland
cc: Edina Park and Recreation Depatment
Edina City Council
Minneapolis City Council
City of Edina
May 19, 2000
Dear Dog Owner:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Park.
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
i arkin off of France Avenue next to the well house - ma enclosed). The off -leash dog
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�j • would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
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EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so In writing to me at the retuni address on this letterhead.
Sin rely,
Jdfin Keprio ,iD rector
Edina Park and Recreation Department
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City of Edina
May 19, 2000
Dear Dog Owner:
T'he Edina Park Board and Edi -1-1.9 Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Parte.
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking (off of France Avenue next to the well house - map enclosed). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestions, please do so in writing to me at the return address on this letterhead.
Sin rely,
J Keprio , irector
Edina Park and Recreation Department
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Mr. John Keprios
Director
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City of Edina
4801 West 50'h Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Re: Proposed Development of Off -Leash Dog Park
Minneapolis Public Works Site
Edina and St. Louis Park, MN
Dear Mr. Keprios,
I am an Edina resident and am unable to attend the Edina Park Board Meeting on June 13, 2000 due to a
scheduling conflict. I did though wish to express my interest in seeing an Off -Leash Dog Park created at
the proposed site, the City of Minneapolis Public Works Site which is located off 40`b and France, a portion
of it being in Edina and a portion in St. Louis Park.
I would also like to see the City of Edina Park and Recretaion Department consider creating an Off -Leash
Dog Park on its own. I think this is an asset to the community and another resource aimed at community
residents, some of whom would use this park and do not use other parks, but still participate in the overall
cost of park and recreation programs.
Please share my views with your Board and Council, as appropriate.
Cordially,
LIM
Darcy E.Vinter
DEW/mmi
John Keprios
To: Pufy2l@aol.com
ubject: RE: (no subject)
Hello Kevin:
Thank you for your e-mail. That is great that you guys are willing to work with me to establish a skate park in Edina. As
for the bikes, that decision has not yet been made, however, I think it would be a good idea to accomodate bikes in the
proposed skate park. Stay in touch and thanks again.
Sincerely,
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
952-826-0430
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From: Pufy21@aol.com [SMTP:Pufy21@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 1:38 PM
To: jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: (no subject)
Hello my name is kevin wilsdon(brother of david wilson) my brother has
contacted you and u contacted him back. by the way we are s0000 sorry that we
have not contacted you in a long time. but any way, i think it great that u
guys are biulding a unsupervised skatepark. and i would like to now if bikes
could cum in the skatepark. You can tell me weather bikes can come in and any
other info uyou have by contacting me at Pufy21 @aol.com
John Keprios
From: WOWGOALIE@aol.com
ent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 1:49 PM
1,0: jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us
Subject: Info on skate parks
HI my name isjoe lewis. I am an edina resident. I would like some info on
the new skatepark. I would also like to help with the plannig of it and
bring some ideas to u. It would also help your park if u can allow bikers in
the park. So wouldl u please email me back asap. I got your name from people
so this idea is getting reall popular.
Thanks for your time
Joe Lewis
P.S We would like to spread the word.
George Wm. Watson
5,417 Doncaster Way
Edina, Minnesota 55436
Phone 952-922-6562- Hm. E-mail georgc&Dbrauer-Itd.com
Phone 952-238-0831 Ext 10 -Wk.
May 23, 2000
John Keprios, Director
Parks and Recreation Department
City of Edina
4801 West 50`h Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Re: Edina City Parks
John,
I'd like to thank you for the time you spent the other day discussing with me my concern over the level of maintenance
of our city parks and the budget and policy restrictions that your department is operating under. Please be sure that I
understand the difficulties that the combination of budget constraints and policies have placed your department under.
The fact that conditions this spring brought this situation to everyone's attention was, as you mentioned, inevitable.
I'm sure that you, the park board and the council are hearing from numerous residents all with complaints related to the
condition of the turf in the city parks. Some of these complaints probably are coming from the various sports
associations and relate to the quality and by inference, the safety of the athletic fields. Other complaints are coming from
park neighbors complaining about the appearance of the turf and it's detrimental effect on their property value. These
are valid concerns.
The policy that eliminated the use of herbicides in city parks was, I'm sure, a knee jerk reaction to citizen concern over
the perceived environmental effects of using such materials. The effects of this policy are now beginning to be apparent
Perhaps it's time for the city to review this situation. Since we now know the results of this policy, can we find an
alternative approach to this complex problem, keeping our concern for the environment and safety of our citizens as a
top priority?
Other communities in the metropolitan area have this same issue to deal with and are trying innovative approaches. Do
we need to have every square inch of park land in manicured turf? Are there areas in each park were turning a portion
of the land to a more natural, `no mow', situation would not only eliminate the need for chemical applications to keep
them looking nice but, would also provide habitat and interest to our park land and reduce the ongoing cost of upkeep?
Turf areas that are intended to support athletic or other intense use activities will always remain manicured. Let's not
fool our selves into believing that this can happen without a management program that relies on the use of modern turf
management techniques. With a holistic study of the cities park land and current maintenance requirements, I think the
city could concentrate its precious resources in those areas where it is actually required and achieve the desires of the
diverse interests in our park land.
Due to intense use, the condition that many of the cities athletic fields are in makes them unsalvageable without a heavy
George Wm. Watson
5417 Doncaster Way
Edina, Minnesota 55436
Phone 952 922 6562 Hm. E-mail george@brauer-Itd.com
Phone 952-238-0831 Ext 10 -Wk.
investment of redevelopment monies. The fields at Braemar are an excellent example of well kept athletic fields. Fields
that provide it's users and guest teams with safe, convenient and pleasant place to play. This wouldn't be the case if the
city hadn't invested redevelopment dollars into their rejuvenation a few years ago. Could it also be that the dollars spent
to correct safety and drainage problems at this facility are now being recaptured in maintenance and operations savings?
This savings should be measured in cost pre user hour not just on a per field basis. This sort of analysis would point to
the need to invest periodically in our facilities and how the dollars would be recaptured in O&M savings, to say nothing
of the greater satisfaction we would all get from knowing that we were maintaining a legacy for future generations.
I know that the city is currently working to better the fields at Pamela Park, while returning portions of the park to a
more natural state. You and the city are to be commended for this effort. Let's apply this same logic to the system as
a whole.
Thanks again for letting me bend your ear on this matter. I'm not criticizing you or your department as much as I am
asking the city and it's citizens to become more pro active in searching for better ways of maintaining our park land.
Sincerely,
George atson
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maria fesenmaier
05/26/00
To whom it may concern,
Please submit the attached documents for public record.
We are opposing portions of the proposed referendum -
affecting the rec facilities, Kuhlman field, etc.
Thank you for your attention,
Maria Fesenmaier
5713 Concord Ave
Edina MN 55424-1538
HERE IS A SAMPLE OF THE FLYER WE HAVE PASSED OUT TO HUNDREDS OF.
RESIDENTS IN THE AREA SURROUNDING THE SITE IN THE PROPOSAL.
The referendum includes a 3 -gymnasium Fieldhouse and a removeable
dome for Kuhlman Field. While the need for additional sports facilities in
Edina is evident, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AREA IS TOO SMALL
FOR A YEAR-ROUND SPORTS COMPLEX!!!
CAN'T WE FIND A SITE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK?
ACCESS TO THE AREA IS PRIMARILY THROUGH YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD. DO YOU WANT MORE CONGESTION?
DO YOU WANT CARS & BUSES STREAMING DOWN YOUR STREET
UNTIL 10 OR 11 P.M. EVERY NIGHT?
DO YOU WANT YO' � �
lPROPERTY TAXES TO GO UP WHILE YOUR
PROPERTY'S VALUE GOES DOWN?
The City Council has NOT considered the impact of their proposal on our streets and
neighborhoods. No environmental impact studies have been done. Yet every school
and park improvement has been tied to a 3 gymnasium fieldhouse and improvements
to Kuhlman Field at the Community Center site. There is NOT adequate parking for the
current programs at the current facilities. One hundred+ additional parking spaces
wouldn't alleviate the current parking shortage during special events.
THERE IS NO FREEWAY ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER COMPLEX COMING
FROM THE SOUTH OR THE WEST---- EXCEPT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS!!I
YET THERE IS NO MONEY ALLOCATED FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY, INCREASED
ACCESS, OR EVEN STOP LIGHTS AT THE BENTON AVENUE EXIT & HIGHWAY 100.
AND THEY WANT TO CRAM A SPORTS COMPLEX BETWEEN 2 ELEMENTARY
SCHOOLS AND THEN RENT THE FACILITIES OUT TO ANYONE IN THE STATE FOR
PRACTICE AND STATE TOURNAMENTS. WILL OUR CHILDREN BE SAFE???
PLEASE WRITE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE MAY 30TH.
There will NOT be an opportunity for the public to speak at this hearing. Your
concerns must be written statements in order to be entered into the g_ublic record.
Address your letters to:
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The Proposal (turn pagc over to see map):
A list of items, totaling $31 million, including:
• A 3-*,•mnasium fieldhouse with a running track connected to the Edina Community Center (ECC), to
be built on the current south parking lot (see letter "D").
• New south parking lot on current site of McCarthy Field_ between 34`s Street and proposed fieldhouse
(see letter "B1").
• Remw4able dome and artificial grass on Kuhlman Field for year-round public use (see letter -X'),
• Renovations to the 770 -seat auditorium in the ECC (sett letter `'K").
• A new gymnasium at Concord Elementary School with a shell for classroom space underneath. The
School District has stated that it will address Concord's classroom shortage regardless of whether the
referendum goes forward (see letter "E").
The Money:
• The funds for construction will be raised through a property tax increase.
• Edina School District will pay to operate and maintain all ECC facilities.
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The Proposal (turn pagc over to see map):
A list of items, totaling $31 million, including:
• A 3-*,•mnasium fieldhouse with a running track connected to the Edina Community Center (ECC), to
be built on the current south parking lot (see letter "D").
• New south parking lot on current site of McCarthy Field_ between 34`s Street and proposed fieldhouse
(see letter "B1").
• Remw4able dome and artificial grass on Kuhlman Field for year-round public use (see letter -X'),
• Renovations to the 770 -seat auditorium in the ECC (sett letter `'K").
• A new gymnasium at Concord Elementary School with a shell for classroom space underneath. The
School District has stated that it will address Concord's classroom shortage regardless of whether the
referendum goes forward (see letter "E").
The Money:
• The funds for construction will be raised through a property tax increase.
• Edina School District will pay to operate and maintain all ECC facilities.
maria fesenmaier
,ent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:11 PM
o: 'jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us'
Subject: referendum
Importance: High
City Council Members, Planning Taskforce and Professional Team,
Mr. Mayor:
I am a tax paying resident of the City of Edina. We have owned the home for 47 years, since it was
built, in 1953. It was one of the very first in the neighborhood, directly across from the parking lot,
adjacent to the Southview Middle School, on Concord Avenue. We watched the school and
surrounding parks being built. We voted our tax dollars to do so, for the better of our choice of life,
the environment, and most importantly - OUR CHILDREN. We, and most of our neighbors, were
informed two night ago, that a meeting was held to determine the next course of action in a vote to
create and complete a study for the new recreational facilities and renovation to surrounding fields,
buildings, school pool, etc... I can not tell you how upset and irate we all were to find that this
meeting was less than publicly announced (swept quietly under the rug) and that we only have until
5/25/00 via mail to respond. As you should know, dozens of us canvassed the surrounding area
passing out flyers to inform all of those who were not aware of the issues. Of the hundreds of homes
we contacted -only two were in favor of the changes. They were both retired folks planning on moving
any way.
i"he main purpose of this message, is to inform you of our position on this proposed referendum. We
do not oppose the entire package. We support several issues with minor modifications. Please see
the below items of concern, and add our response to the public record. Also please note, that we do
plan a rally, continued involvement since you are asking us to pay for the changes/upgrades, and
possible legal intervention if necessary.
Thank you for your time and attention. Many of us look forward to seeing you on 05/30/00 at the
meeting, and please remember our concerns affect our decisions at the next
voting poll.
Maria Fesenmaier
5713 Concord Avenue
Edina MN 55424
612.922.6734 (h)
612.591.4106 (w)
maria.fesenmaier@wcom.com
'LEASE TAKE US SERIOUSLY,
WE WANT TO BE HEARD
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BEFORE TOO MUCH TIME - ENERGY - AND MONEY
IS SPENT UNWISELY.
1) Dome over a new Kuhlman field
Not in this neighborhood, not year round. Build it somewhere else. Since it is to be used for other
scholastic events -build it on all the extra non-residential grounds around the current Edina High
School. Or how about over by Braemar arena?They will have the room and parking and highway
access.
Do not build it in a highly populated residential area that needs more:
roads, sidewalks (handicap accessible), city cleanup service, Police enforcement manpower
availability. traffic control, access to highways, sufficient parking already in place. Do not make our
streets unsafe - year round - for our children. With increased traffic, (which is already getting speeds
that still need slowing down), and multiple sporting events -we are inviting fast driving, congestion,
tailgating, reckless or unsafe drivers that love to drink and party in association with sporting events.
Check the police statistics.
2) Upgrading the gym facilities for Concord Elementary School:
Not a bad idea -those students could really benefit but we need actual numbers and design plans to
decide.
3) Upgrading the Southview School pool:
Not a bad idea -those students could really benefit but we need actual numbers and design plans to
decide.
4) 770 Seat auditorium:
Only if it is a secured facility, and if we have actual numbers and design plans to decide -but probably
not. Build it by the dome you want. They will have the room and parking and highway access.
5) Artificial turf:
You are posing a greater threat to the safety of our children. If your proposed vendor say's it is safe -I
want to see tests and results and a second opinion from at least 5 other vendors.
6) 3 Gymnasium fieldhouse and running track:
No, we already have a track. No other building can be supported at this site -move them to the other
new dome site. They will have the room and parking and highway access.
7) New south parking lot to replace McCarthy Field:
No. Why replace a great usable filed to park cars at a dome that will not be built on this site, and that
have no traffic lights or adequate access to the highway?
8) Ask me to pay for all of it with taxes:
Joubt it -but let us see the numbers.
In response to certain parts of the proposal, I have annotated our suggestions next to the proposal
F;ndings. See below:
Community Center Campus Predesign Study
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
City of Edina
Minneapolis-based Decision Resources in March surveyed approximately 400 randomly selected
residents to determine which elements of the proposal the community supports, if any. The surveying
firm provided to the Council May 2:
(results in part, direct from the City Edina publishing)
Methodology:
Decision Resources, Ltd., contacted 400 randomly selected households in the City of Edina. Residents were
interviewed by telephone between March 15 and 22, 2000. The average interview took 19 minutes. The result of
this sample may be projected to the universe of all adult residents of the City of Edina within f 5.0% in 95 out
of 100 cases.
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Residential Demographics:
The typical Edina resident had lived in the city for 14.1 years. While 24% had resided there for five years or
less, 22% had been in the community for over 30 years. The median adult age of residents was calculated at
53.5 years old. Twenty-nine percent of the sample were under 45 years old, while 32% were 65 years or older.
Women outnumbered men by 8% in the sample.
Seniors resided in 34% of the households; in fact, exclusively senior households composed 23% of the city's
households. School -aged children were in 30% of the households and pre-schoolers could be found in 15% of
them. Thirty percent of the households reported membership in a private health club.
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Bond Referendum Components:
Residents were initially queried about their support for a tax increase to undertake 25.5 million dollars of
recreational facility additions and improvements at the Community Center Campus and Edina Public Schools
Campuses. Three proposals received impressive majorities of support: increased parking at the Community
Center, renovation and remodeling of the Community Center Auditorium, and renovation of the swimming pool
at South View Middle School and either construction of a new swimming pool or renovation of the current pool
t Valley View Middle School. In each case, at least 59% supported the proposal and less than 21% opposed it.
Narrower majorities were registered in support of the two projects: additional gymnasiums at the Community
Center and Concord School and upgrading of the soccer, softball and baseball fields at Edina High School.
Weak support or outright opposition was expressed on three components: a 49%-33% split supported lighting
the tennis courts for night play at the Community Center; a 38%-34% verdict opposed renovation of the
Kuhlman Field Stadium, including artificial turf; and, a 43%-35% judgement opposed an air -supported fabric
ome at the Kuhlman Field Stadium during winter months.
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Residents were next queried about their support for a tax increase to undertake 4.5 million dollars of
recreational facility additions and improvements at City Parks. Four proposals received significant support:
upgrading of existing fencing, parking lots and tennis courts; construction of additional trails and improvement
of existing trails; installment of fire protection systems at Braemar Arena and two historical buildings; and
improvements of pathways at three parks and provision of additional pathways at Cornelia School Park. In each
case, over 60% favored the project and less than 30% opposed it. A narrower majority, 53%, favored upgrading
softball, baseball and soccer fields, while a 35%-18% plurality opted for development of Van Valkenburg
neighborhood park and playground area. Only one proposal was opposed: by a 32%-23% margin, residents
rejected a tax increase for replacement of the Courtney Fields concessions building.
7eferendum Atmospherics:
The typical Edina resident would support a property tax increase of $138.00 per year for a plan to expand and
improve recreational facilities in the City of Edina. Seventeen percent, however, would support "no tax
increase" for this purpose. But, on the other hand, 16% would support property tax increases of $250.00
annually.
In reaction to a 30.0 million -dollar bond referendum proposal for building of additional gymnasiums,
renovation of sports stadiums and the community auditorium, trail expansions and improvements, improvement
of sports fields, and upgrading of swimming pool facilities, a 60%-33% majority favored the package. Support
was principally based on "need," "benefit to the community," "maintenance of property values," and "acceptable
cost." Opposition stemmed from "lack of need," "too comprehensive of a proposal," and "high taxes."
Our reponse: How could 60% - 30% maiadU favor the package, if they do not have an accurate "picture" explained to them?
These statistics are very vague and have little integrity Run the numbers again, in order to make an accurate decision..
Summary and Conclusions:
1) Edina residents were very satisfied with the current park and recreations system. They gave it very high
ratings both overall and for maintenance and upkeep. In fact, 60% felt the system was "better" than any
of those in neighboring suburbs. Almost 80% regularly used the system, and 96% believed there was a
strong tie between and extensive and attractive park and recreation system and residential property
values.
2) Walking and running facilities play a special role for most residents; almost one-half of the sample listed
those activities as their favorite outdoor leisure time activity. Similarly, there was a marked preference
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7eferendum Atmospherics:
The typical Edina resident would support a property tax increase of $138.00 per year for a plan to expand and
improve recreational facilities in the City of Edina. Seventeen percent, however, would support "no tax
increase" for this purpose. But, on the other hand, 16% would support property tax increases of $250.00
annually.
In reaction to a 30.0 million -dollar bond referendum proposal for building of additional gymnasiums,
renovation of sports stadiums and the community auditorium, trail expansions and improvements, improvement
of sports fields, and upgrading of swimming pool facilities, a 60%-33% majority favored the package. Support
was principally based on "need," "benefit to the community," "maintenance of property values," and "acceptable
cost." Opposition stemmed from "lack of need," "too comprehensive of a proposal," and "high taxes."
Our reponse: How could 60% - 30% maiadU favor the package, if they do not have an accurate "picture" explained to them?
These statistics are very vague and have little integrity Run the numbers again, in order to make an accurate decision..
Summary and Conclusions:
1) Edina residents were very satisfied with the current park and recreations system. They gave it very high
ratings both overall and for maintenance and upkeep. In fact, 60% felt the system was "better" than any
of those in neighboring suburbs. Almost 80% regularly used the system, and 96% believed there was a
strong tie between and extensive and attractive park and recreation system and residential property
values.
2) Walking and running facilities play a special role for most residents; almost one-half of the sample listed
those activities as their favorite outdoor leisure time activity. Similarly, there was a marked preference
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for individual recreational activities over group activities.
3) A key information deficit, though, was noted in the perception that current facilities met residential
demand and were generally not crowded. The City may wish to inform residents more fully about the
existing gaps between demand and availability.
4) Residents were especially keen about several expansions and improvements: renovation and remodeling
of the Community Center Auditorium, increased parking at the Community Center, renovation of the
swimming pool at South View Middle School and either construction of a new pool or renovation of the
current pool at Valley View Middle School, construction of additional trails and improvement of
existing trails, installation of fire protection systems at three facilities, improvement of pathways at three
parks and additional pathways at Cornelia School Park, upgrade existing fencing, parking lots and tennis
courts in need of repair or replacement
5) In every case, at least 59% favored the proposal and opposition was below 30%. Two proposals, though
were somewhat controversial: renovation of Kuhlman Field Stadium, including artificial turf for the field
and widening of the track; air supported fabric dome at Kuhlman Field Stadium during winter months.
Our r Fponse• 30% is veru high -take it seriously before the matter reaches expensive legal resident intervention.
6) The 30.0 million -dollar bond proposal stands a reasonable chance of passage if a strong information and
grassroots advocacy campaign is assembled. The comfort level for a tax increase of a typical resident
was $138.00 per year, consistent with the 30.0 million -dollar bond proposal.
Our reponse The residents interviewed did not receive an accurate, in depth anatuis of what will happen to the homes around
the site in question,. for only S138. 00 per year, This is unacceptable Please run the numbers again.
May 22, 2000
John Keprios, Park and Recreation Director & The Edina Park Board
Dear Director Keprios and the Edina Park Board:
As you are all undoubtedly aware, on 5/16/00 the Edina City Council voted to cede a portion of Sherwood
Park to the Opus/Clark development in the Grandview area.
I write to express my great disappointment in your actions:
1) I first learned of the "redesign" of the Opus/Clark proposal on the evening of 5/9/00. According to
Heidi Kurtze's communication with our neighborhood, Opus/Clark had yet to submit anything to City
officials.
2) Imagine my surprise on 5/16/00, when I learned that Director Keprios supported the re -design. I was
utterly amazed when Park Board Member Presthus addressed the City Council on 5/16/00 and claimed
that the Park Board completely supported the ceding of land from Sherwood Park.
3) Wondering when you could have considered this as a body, I checked records and discovered to my
dismay that you had a regularly scheduled meeting on 5/9/00 and that "Grandview Square -Sherwood
Park" was on the agenda under Item # 3 "Updates".
I am surprised, and greatly disappointed, that if the issue of Sherwood Park was on the table for your
consideration, that no one from the Richmond Hills neighborhood was either notified or invited to attend.
I am further concerned that the Park Board would take formal action on an item listed on their agenda as an
"update".
But all the above pertains to process.
Most importantly, I believe you have failed in your stewardship of our Parks. Sherwood Park is a small,
neighborhood park used by neighborhood children who cannot safely reach larger Edina Parks on their
own. You have not only permitted but also recommended via Member Presthus that Sherwood Park lose a
significant portion of its open play area. This land is irreplaceable. While I can accept that the City Council
may allow itself to be persuaded that Opus/Clark's landscape buffer to this development, when ceded to the
City, somehow replaces open parkland, I would believe Park Board members incapable of believing such
fiction.
I have attached my letter to the City Council of May 19, 2000. I will not repeat the content here.
Because of your actions on this topic, I regretfully inform you that I will actively oppose any referendum
designed to increase taxes for Edina Parks and Recreation. I no longer have any confidence that you will
either spend the revenue wisely or protect valuable Edina neighborhood Parks.
I am very disappointed in both your process and your decision making. You represent the whole
community, including Richmond Hills. The least you could have done was give us the courtesy to be heard
at your meeting on May 9, 2000. I believe you should have gone further and been our advocate in
protecting a precious and irreplaceable neighborhood asset
Sincerel i,
John M. Menke
5301 Pinewood Trail
Edina, MN 55436
612-922-2608
Mayor Dennis Maetzold May 19, 2000
Council Members: Nan Faust, James Hovland, Scott Johnson, and Michael Kelly
Dear Mayor and City Council:
I am writing with my final comments to you on the Kunz -Lewis development process. I have scant hope
that I will persuade you to do anything other than you have already done—but you still have the
opportunity to correct a grievous error.
I encourage you to search your conscience and vote against final rezoning of the properties involved. My
understanding is that only two votes can stop rezoning and force changes in the development plan.
Before I begin with specific references, I want you to know that in the neighborhood meetings prior to
The Council Meeting on May 16, 2000, I advocated that to date you had done the neighborhood no harm
either actually or in your own estimations. Therefore, there was no need to presume enmity or retain
counsel. I suggested that local elected officials, particularly historically in Edina, were sensitive to the
opinions of their constituents, especially in relationship to neighborhood Parks and land use. I believed
then, and said as much, that the Council would not permit Sherwood Park to be used in the development,
nor were they likely to approve 55+ foot structures so close to the Hedwall & Tomale residences at 5232
and 5400 Edenmoor (southernmost portion of the development) or at higher elevations on the site.
Although the developer's spokesperson Heidi Kurtze consistently claimed that unnamed members of the
City Council encouraged Opus/Clark to locate buildings in Sherwood Park, I did not believe her.
Obviously, I was incorrect. I am still stunned that you have so completely disregarded the shared concerns
of the Richmond Hills neighborhood.
Mayor Maetzold, I appreciate your attention to the neighborhood's concerns and your vote on 5/16/00. 1
hope you will hold to your position.
Council Member Hovland, for your information, height and traffic have always been neighborhood
concerns about any redevelopment in the area. Those items have been clearly and consistently stated in
writing and in oral presentations throughout this process. To claim, as you publicly did, that I had never
raised the issue of building height bears no resemblance to the truth as contained in the public record. It is
true that I did not repeat content contained in previous letters—at the Council's request. I assumed, given
that request, Council Members read and retained important information. Indeed, my personal (as well as
that of many neighbors) opposition to the Opus/Clark development proposal, from the start of this process
last year, was due to the fact that they had the highest buildings closest to the existing single family homes
and also at the highest elevations on the site, their potential traffic impact, and their willingness—indeed
eagerness—to use Sherwood Park as an exploitable piece of land. We have never had a developer seek to
use Sherwood Park for buildings or for development landscape in the past. Never as in not once!
Remember that the other full-scale developer (Frauenschuh) not only left Sherwood Park intact to its
present configuration, but also added land to the Park. Their proposed buildings nearest the existing single
family homes were only 2 stories in height.
I would also note that Nan Faust, on 11/1/99, specifically asked Ron Clark if he would do something about
the height of the buildings. Although Mr. Clark indicated he would "do what was possible", he clearly
knew then as now that he would make no effort, due to economics, to alter the building height.
Council Member Faust, you and those on the Council who voted with you, have accommodated all
concerns save those of the neighborhood. As Heidi Kurtze intoned on 5/16/00, you made adjustments for
the library, the senior center, their (not our) city traffic flow concerns, the "future residents" of the
development, etc., etc., etc. You have completely neglected the neighborhood concerns about Sherwood
Park, building height & appearance, and traffic flow. As you stated, the area you have allowed to be
appropriated from Sherwood Park was not used for scheduled recreation activities. It was used by parents
playing with & teaching various sports to their children, and children of all ages actually playing those
sports. I would emphasize again, this is a neighborhood park used by children who do not have safe access
to other play areas. Yes, the field was not regulation size for any sport. But children could play all field
sports and many other games there which require a long open space. "Regulation" fields are not required
for play. Further, they are generally reserved for organized activities. If you value Edina children and
families, you would see the value of this resource. You have coldly and deliberately taken this resource
from the neighborhood. "Adding" some area to the lower end of the Park—area which on all the drawings
appears nothing more than landscape buffer for the development deeded to the City for maintenance at
taxpayer expense, is not adequate replacement for the area taken. John Keprios conceded as much. Further,
the fiction that grading will improve the Park is just that—a fiction. The contour adjustments, placement of
the pump station, and existing grades at the existing homes & Sherwood Road prohibit any significant
change.
As for your measurements of remaining Park land during the meeting on 5/16/00, not only do I believe Mr.
Keprios' outline on the aerial map was overgenerous based on schematics previously distributed, may I ask
why the developer, or the City, did not distribute actual measurements in feet? I accept your, and Council
Member Kelly's, mocking of my "walking off' the measurements—but in the absence of real measures,
what was the option? Given that the road into the development (which will be far wider than Eden Circle)
from Sherwood cannot be shifted significantly to the North from the current location of Eden Circle, I
presume the 55 foot tall building will be located some 10 to 20 feet (as a setback) south of Eden Circle into
Sherwood Park. The building pad is 96 feet wide, although possibly wider at this point to accommodate the
garage entrance/exit onto Sherwood. Then there would be, at least, the claimed path/roadway to the Pump
Station, perhaps 10 feet wide, the landscape buffer—another 10 feet. In all this represents a total incursion
of @ 140 feet. Sherwood Park from Eden Circle to the property line at 5244 Edenmoor is @ 283 feet.
You have cut the Park—at that point—virtually in half. I realize that here, as elsewhere in the "Park", the
developer has probably assigned the pathway and the landscape buffer to the City, allowing you to call it
"parkland" and permitting the Edina taxpayer to pay for its maintenance. The reduction in usable open
space is the same, regardless of whether development landscape buffer is called "parkland" as a tissue thin
rationale for the destruction of usable Park area.
Your comments during the Fall decision making process comparing the appearance of the small businesses
in the area to the old gravel pit across from the former France Avenue Drive -In Theatre rivaled only
Council Member Kelly's perorations on condemnation law in insensitivity. Unfortunately, your comments
did not approach his in accuracy. Your blatant disregard for the contribution of small businesses to the
Edina community in the name of some superior concept of appearance for appearances sake displays the
appalling type of elitism for which residents of Edina are too often stereotyped.
To add further insult to real injury, your call to my neighbor explaining your vote on 5'16/00 was extremely
disturbing. To claim that the reason you voted for Opus/Clark was that otherwise the WMEP school
proposal would resurface raises disturbing questions. Quite honestly, I cannot see hovv a school building
with Sherwood Park being preserved would be a worse project for this neighborhood than 55 -foot high
condominiums and loss of usable Park space. Unless, of course, either you are afraid of these particular
elementary school children, or are trying to scare the neighbors about them. Of course, to the best of my
knowledge, WMEP is not funded now, and seemingly would not be funded for another 2 years. As well,
there are many private developers still interested in the site.
Council Member Johnson, I realize you were not elected and do not intend to stand for office, but you
accepted a position which has some inherent obligations to the general public. I detected no interest on your
part in attending to citizen concerns about this development. Your focus appeared to be on being a good
team player and following the lead of co -managers Kelly and Faust. Your obligations to the citizens of
Edina, including those of us who reside in the Richmond Hills neighborhood, demand that you stand up for
what you believe—not go along to get along with your fellow members of the City Council.
Council Member Kelly, you have advocated from the fust for Opus/Clark. I appreciate that you, from the
start of this process, have not pretended to care about anything other than the complete development by
Opus/Clark of this entire site without any regard to the existing neighborhood or small businesses. I do not
expect that to change now.
However, I would be remiss if I did not comment on five items:
1) You may believe the fiction that the developer's project landscaping "adds" to Sherwood Park
something other than a taxpayer expense for maintenance. I do not believe it, nor do my neighbors.
You have significantly changed the functioning of Sherwood Park to the severe detriment of children
and families in this neighborhood. It is a resource that once gone, cannot be replaced.
2) Viewed most charitably, your comments on 5/16/00 (as well as at several previous hearings) that you
have known the Rauenhorsts & Clarks your entire life, that they are friends as well as fine, upstanding
people may have been intended to impress the audience that they were in good hands.
However, it appeared to me, as well as to many in attendance, that your testimonials to these
individuals were nothing more than a public declaration of a very significant personal conflict of
interest regarding these developers. The neighborhood was not reassured either about the developers
or about your decision making process.
3) As on 11/1/99, your pointed explanation about the legal purposes of condemnation—"fair" payment
for physical property—although undoubtedly accurate, displayed an unforgivable disregard for the
effects of your blithe decision to deprive several long standing small business people their
livelihoods. I have been attending Edina City Council meetings for the last ten years. Never have I
seen a particular member—let alone an entire Council—display such a blatant disregard for the
property and welfare of small business owners. There was no over-riding public purpose which was
served by effectively condemning the Edina Pet Hospital, the Hair Salon, the Noonan Building, or
even the TAGS building. The veterinarian will suffer significant financial harm, as, most probably,
will the Hair Salon owner. Most, if not all, the remaining small businesses will suffer some negative
economic repercussions due to their unnecessary forced relocation precipitated by your decision on
11/1/99. Your actions in leading the drive to take these businesses without a second thought will live
in infamy in this community for many years.
4) Your lack of courage in addressing the school bus garage issue is amazing; You had the opportunity
to fix the problem on 11/1/99 by adopting the Jerry's proposal. Even if you could not choose that
option, rather than condemn school property, you chose to condemn private lands and dismember a
public park. It is bothersome that School Board property is treated with greater deference than private
property and parkland.
5) Finally, you claimed on 5/16/00, that the Richmond Hills neighborhood opposed many previous
developments for the Kunz -Lewis site. In point of fact, since 1990, only one proposed development
was universally opposed by the Richmond Hills neighborhood: the Rainbow Food store. In retrospect,
that would have proven a less intrusive site use than the Opus/Clark project. Many other
developments were supported in whole or in part by the neighborhood. The only development
proposal which has ever approached the united neighborhood opposition to the use of Sherwood Park
and the building height in the current, City Council approved Opus/Clark development plan was the
Rainbow proposal. And, quite frankly, even Rainbow did not come close to the united concern
regarding Opus/Clark. This neighborhood has consistently supported the responsible development of
the Kunz -Lewis site. In the past, our concerns were attended to by both developers and the City
Council. It is regrettable that such is no longer true.
Finally, you have subjected this neighborhood to an extremely long development schedule while at the
same time, by your actions, told the developer that they can ignore neighborhood concerns with impunity
I have absolutely no hope that the developer will take into account this neighborhood during construction
activities. They have learned, and learned well, that there is no such need.
I did not expect any of you to agree with or concede all neighborhood concerns. I did expect that the
neighborhood would be persuasive regarding Sherwood Park and building height near the residences on
Edenmoor. I hoped for a different traffic pattern, and adjustments on overall residential building height
and appearance.
I see no real point in pursuing remedies for your decisions through the Courts.
However, I do not intend to remain silent on what I perceive to be a gross dereliction of responsibility on
your part to this neighborhood and to your duties as elected representatives.
I apologize for sending this correspondence to your homes, but feel common courtesy requires that you
receive it before I submit it for publication or general distribution. At this point, I feel my only option is to
publicly express my concerns in the available media about the site development.
Sincerely,
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John M. Menke
5301 Pinewood Trail
Edina, MN 55436
952-922-2608
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May 26, 2000
John M. Menke
5301 Pinewood Trail
Edina, MN 55436
Dear Mr. Menke:
Thank you for your letter dated May 22, 2000, regarding the Sherwood Park issue as it
relates to the Opus/Clark development.
I understand your disappointment given the perception that the Park Board discussed and
voted on the revised drawing for Sherwood Park. Please know that that was not the case.
The item was on the agenda for the May 9. 2000, Park Board meeting as an information
item update only. There was no formal action taken at that meeting on the new proposed
plan. If I had requested action on the agenda item, I would have most certainly informed
all the neighborhood residents as I have in the past.
i As you recall, at their April meeting, the Park Board passed the following motion:
"THAT WE ASK THE DEVELOPERS TO LOOK FURTHER WITH THE CITY TO
EXPLORE OTHER POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES IN EFFORTS TO SACRIFICE
EVEN LESS AND IF POSSIBLE NONE OF THE EXISTING PARK LAND AT
SHERWOOD PARK."
The developers met that challenge. I will continue to respectfully disagree that the new
configuration will result in a larger mini -park that has fewer recreational opportunities. I
am disappointed and saddened that you have lost all confidence in me. Nonetheless, my
staff and I will continue to serve Edina to the best of our ability and I will continue to do
what I feel is best for Edina as a whole.
S' ely,
ohn Kepno ,irector
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Half (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826-0390
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDO (612) 826-0379
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The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input
on issues related to the development of the proposed off -leash dog near Weber Park. q26 -S s 1 3
The Edina Park Board is going to consider staff's proposal to enter into an agreement
with the Minneapolis Park Board and the City of St. Louis Park to cooperatively create an
off -leash dog site on property owned by the Minneapolis Public Works Department
adjacent to Weber Park. The agreement calls for a fenced in 4 acre site with off-street
parking (off of France Avenue next to the well house - map enclosed). The off -leash dog
site would be maintained and enforced by the Minneapolis Park Board. Edina residents
would be allowed to purchase a license to use Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog
parks at the resident rate.
Therefore, you are invited to share your views at the following Park Board meeting:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000
7:30 P.M.
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COUNCIL CHAMBERS
If you cannot or choose not to attend the meeting but wish to express your concerns and
suggestiono-, please do so in writing to ire at the return address ou iris ietterhead.
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From: john traul <jtraul@lightdog.com>
To: <jkeprios@ci.edina.mn.us>
Cc: <mfkelly@ciedina.mn.us>; <nfaust@ciedina.mn.us>; <ghughes@ciedina.mn.us>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:52 PM
Subject: Aquatic Center
I was surprised to learn today on my first visit to the Edina Pool that it would be closed the weekend of June
17th and 18th. There is absolutely nothing on this web sight calendar of events or in the Aquatic Center
information on this web sight that would indicate this. Since I had checked both places prior to planning my
daughter's birthday party as a pool event for Saturday the 17th, I was more than a little dismayed.
In the many years I have been going to the Edina Pool I simply fail to understand how the city can close a
facility such as this on a summer weekend to the benefit of so few. Two years ago the event was moved to
another location to the joy of 99% of the Edina families that are Aquatic Center users. Why can't this event
either be scheduled during the week when the pool is not in greatest demand or be permanently scheduled at
one of the school pools or elsewhere?
Also, why can't the information the Aquatic Center and the city put on it's informational web page be accurate
so this is not a surprise?
I would really appreciate hearing back from you on these issues. Thanks!
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Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Mall, 4801 West 50th. Street
Edina MN 55424-1394
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Re: Minneapolis Park Board proposed off -leash dog area
John,
Appreciate your asking for comments. I have read the Police Chief s concerns in the Sun
and I feel those are manageable.
The focus of this issue should be, for what purpose can this land be used?
Minneapolis and is grown up to scrub brush_ They profess
1. It belongs to the City of
.vanting to hang onto it for some future water storage structure_
2. The soil is compressive, thus not suitable for residences if they should decide to sell
it.
3. Will a fence and a parking lot degrade the area? NO
4. Will this proposed use hinder any future use? NO
5. And finally, it is better than having people walk their dogs and letting them poop and
pce on lawns'
So. my reeling is let them build it, and by the way how are the plans and construction
schedule for the completion of the Braemar Nature Trail coming along?
Very truly yours.
Kenneth �V. Miller, P.E.
6016 Fairfax Ave_ S.
Edina MN 55424-1826
2001