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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-09-13 Park Board PacketCity of Edina EDINA PARK BOARD WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 139 2000 5:30 P.M. DINNER - CENTENNIAL LAKES GOLF IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING 7:30 P.M. MEETING CENTRUM BUILDING CENTENNIAL LAKES PARK MEETING AGENDA w * 1. Approval of the June 13, 2000, Park Board Minutes. 2. Edinborough Park & Centennial Lakes Park; Tom Shirley & Ann Kattreh. *3. Varsity Hockey Locker Rooms - Braemar Arena. *4. On -Sale of Wine - Braemar Golf Course. *5. Off -Leash Dog Park - 4000 France Avenue. 6. Other *7. Adjournment * These are agenda items that require or request Park Board action. City Hall (612) 927-8861 4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826-0390 EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 826-0379 Memo To: Edina Park Board. From: John Keprios, Director Edina Park and Recreation Department Date: September 6, 2000 Re: September 13, 2000, PARK BOARD MEETING STAFF REPORT. Enclosed you should find the following items: 1. Wednesday, September 13, 2000, Park Board Agenda. 2. Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Park Board Minutes. 3. Memo from John Valliere - Wine Sales. 4. Memo from Carol Lansing, Assistant Minneapolis Attorney. 5. Letter from Belinda Davis, Park Community Planner. 6. Letter from Craig Larsen, City Planner. 7. Memo from S.A. Schwartz Jr. Deputy Chief. 8. Letter from John Alt. 9. Letter from Terry and Shelly Brown - Adaptive Golf League. REMINDER: DINNNER WILL BE SERVED AT 5:30 P.M. IN THE CENTRUM BUILDING IN CENTENNIAL LAKES PARK WE WILL PLAY THE PUTTING COURSE AT CENTENNIAL LAKES PARK IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING DINNER THE PARK BOARD MEETING BEGINS AT 7:30 P.M. IN THE CENTRUM BUILDING IN CENTENNIAL LAKES PARK STAFF REPORT The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with the exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the agenda for other information items (not requiring formal action), last minute items that may come up between now and the Park Board meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board members and/or attendees. EDINBOROUGH AND CENTENNIAL LAKES PARK PRESENTATION The Manager of Edinborough and Centennial Lakes Park, Tom Shirley, and his Assistant Manager, Ann Kattreh, will give the Park Board a brief presentation about the current status of the two parks. The completion of the master plan for Centennial Lakes Park is near the end, which Tom will outline. This is a presentation agenda item only and, therefore, no Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. VARSITY HOCKEY LOCER ROOMS - BRAEMAR ARENA There are parents of high-school age boys who play hockey who recently approached me and Braemar Arena Manager, Larry Thayer, to assist them in developing a permanent locker room at Braemar Arena for the Edina boys varsity hockey team. Their intent is to raise money through donations to construct the locker rooms. Larry Thayer and I are both in support of this request, however, I have instructed the group that the City cannot and will not advertise for bids until the finances are in the bank. These enthusiastic parents are hopeful to have all their financing, drawings and plans in place prior to the Park Board meeting to speed things along. At the time of this Staff Report, I have not seen any final drawings or received confirmation of any commitment of funding from any source. The Edina Athletic Director, Steve Dove, is in support of this initiative and feels that it would be of great benefit to the participating young hockey players and the program in general. I support this initiative in concept, however, I cannot give a staff recommendation at this point only because there is no funding in place at this time and I have not seen any final design or construction drawings. I will have to delay any staff recommendation until the Park Board meeting. Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. ON -SALE WINE LICENSE - BRAEMAR GOLF COURSE Mayor Dennis Maetzold has requested that staff and the Park Board consider the opportunity to sell wine at Braemar Golf Course. Braemar Golf Course is currently licensed to serve but not sell wine or strong beer. For Braemar Golf Course to be able to sell wine, Braemar Golf Course would have to acquire an on -sale wine license from the City of Edina and abide by all City Code requirements associated with possessing an on -sale wine license. For example, there must be a licensed manager (licensed to sell on -sale wine) present at all times and all servers must attend an alcohol awareness training. Our City Attorney is currently reviewing the need for any City Code changes or additions to allow Braemar Golf Course to sell wine on the premises. As you will note in the enclosed Memo from Braemar Golf Course Manager, John Valliere, he is recommending that wine could be sold by the glass and could be a profitable item. I recommend that the Park Board approve the on -sale of wine by the glass at Braemar Golf Course. Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. OFF -LEASH DOG PARK - 4000 FRANCE AVE. As you may recall, the Edina Park Board tabled action on this agenda item at the June meeting and requested the Minneapolis Park Board to resolve three major concerns: 1. Funding for off-street parking. 2. Reducing the number of entrances to one. 3. Resolve all of the legal questions regarding enforcement. I have been assured by Minneapolis Park Board staff that adequate funding is available to construct off-street parking. As pointed out in the memorandum from the Assistant Minneapolis City Attorney, Carol Lansing, the enforcement issues are somewhat complex and still unresolved. According to Ms. Lansing, the Minneapolis Park Board may not be able to provide routine enforcement of the off -leash site even if a joint powers agreement is in place and/or changes in city ordinances. This is a significant issue that still has yet to be resolved. It is the Edina Police Department's recommendation and my recommendation that the Minneapolis Park Police find a way to be able to legally provide routine enforcement within the off -leash site. Ms. Lansing eluded to the possibility of Edina providing the enforcement and then reimbursing the City of Edina for those expenses. The Edina Police Department is understandably not interested in providing routine law enforcement of a Minneapolis Park Board off -leash dog site provided primarily for the benefit of Minneapolis residents. The Minneapolis Park Board has a similar meeting earlier the same evening with the Park Board for the City of St. Louis Park. The Minneapolis Park Board staff will give us a report of that meeting and respond to our concerns. If the Minneapolis Park Board can successfully meet all of the Edina Park Board's concerns expressed at the June meeting, I would be in support of this proposal. However, it appears as though they do not have the enforcement issue resolved at this point. If we were to pursue this proposal, it is imperative that it be done with written understanding through a joint powers agreement on a trial basis. This would leave us the option to eliminate that land use activity after a two-year trial period (or even a one-year basis if the Edina Park Board prefers). Until the Minneapolis Park Board can resolve the issues mentioned above, I cannot support this proposal. Park Board action is requested on this agenda item. OTHER This is an opportunity for Park Board members and residents to address other concerns. EDINA PARK BOARD 7:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS JUNE 13, 2000 MEMBERS PRESENT: Andy Herring, Tom White, Linda Presthus, George Klus, Floyd Grabiel, Andy Finsness, David Fredlund, Scot Housh MEMBERS ABSENT: Chuck Mooty, John Murrin, Karla Sitek STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton, Matt Graber, John Carlson, Mike Siitari OTHERS PRESENT: Ethan Rogers, Cliff Fechner, Delois Fechner, Dean Zimmerman, Belinda Davis, Jon Niemiec, Deb Smith, Robin Hard, Bob Shaw, Ken Grieshaber, Gordon Burke, Kenny Duke, Heather Duke, Colette Prohofsky, Al Kosters, Eddy Christensson, Karen Christensson, Randy Meyer, Bob Clinton I. APPROVAL OF THE MAY 9.2000 PARK BOARD MINUTES Floyd Grabiel MOVED TO APPROVE THE MAY 9, 2000 PARK BOARD MINUTES. Dave Fredlund SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED. II. OFF -LEASH DOG SITE Mr. Keprios introduced Joan Niemiec, Director of Planning for the City of Minneapolis, and indicated that she will introduce her staff and then will give a brief presentation. He stated that following her presentation we will hear the perspective from those in attendance and then it will go to the Park Board for discussion and a recommendation to the City Council. Joan Niemiec stated that in addition to her staff, Dean Zimmerman, who is one of their Park Commissioners, is also present. She explained that in September of 1997 the Minneapolis Park Board, City Council and the Mayor felt there was enough interest in off -leash dog recreation areas that they started a citizen advisory committee. The committee consisted of 19 appointed members and their charge was to look at the feasibility of off -leash dog recreation areas. She stated that they completed their work in October of 1998 and then prepared a study which was presented to the rest of the body. At that time staff got together and looked at approximately 50 sites which was then reduced to 25 sites. Ms. Niemiec indicated that in September they held four different meetings to which there was a wide range of attendance. At these meetings they asked what people would be willing to pay and asked if they currently have dog licenses for their dogs. She explained that based on the survey results Ken Grieshaber, Landscape Architect for the City of Minneapolis, and herself went to the board and made a recommendation to reduce the number of sites to eight. She noted that in March the team went out again and found that people are generally in support of off -leash dog recreation areas and do see a need for them. Ms. Niemiec explained that the survey results were broken down by Minneapolis residents, non-residents and those who didn't specify to which there were a total of 64 present at the meeting. The people who were in support of this particular site 32 out of 36 residents said yes, 13 of 21 non-residents said yes and 4 out of 7 unspecified residents said yes. Also the majority of people who attended this meeting were dog owners with the majority of them having dog licenses. Ms. Niemiec indicated that the Minneapolis Park Board has now approved 4 of the 8 sites to which two have been given preliminary approval, one was this one based on further communication with St. Louis Park and Edina. She noted that they are hoping to open mid-July or early August. Ms. Niemiec explained that because of the proposed opening taking place mid -year the rates would be reduced for this year. Currently the fee they are looking at for residents is $20.00 plus $10.00 for each additional dog in the household. Edina and St. Louis Park residents would be able to pay the Minneapolis resident fee. Robin Hard, President of Responsible Owners of Mannerly Pets Minneapolis Chapter (ROMP), explained that they are a non-profit organization of dog owners that was formed to better the reputation of dog owners. She noted that to do this they actually do more with furthering education of people, peer pressure and being good role models, therefore, by developing off -leash recreation areas for dogs helps to assist them with their goal. Ms. Hartl pointed out that studies of other off -leash dog areas by the citizen advisory committees in such cities as Seattle, Washington, Toronto, San Francisco, Milwaukee, Portland, New York and many other cities have shown that these areas have had a very positive benefit for the citizens of their city dog owners and non -dog owners alike. The areas have been shown to promote healthier communities by bringing people together in a way that's socially comfortable. The more people get to know each other in a community the more interest they have in their neighborhood which creates a much safer environment. Off -leash areas also decrease dog nuisance behaviors such as excessive barking and loose dogs on the street since these areas give dog owners a place to give their dogs the exercise that they need and to release a lot of their pent up energy. She commented that this concept may be new to the Twin Cities but it is not new in many other cities in the U.S., Canada, Australia and Europe. The knowledge to establish such areas has been well developed over the past ten years from such organizations as the National Recreation and Park Association and the American Kennel Club. They develop materials that they make available to communities that are interested in this very popular recreation. To help make these areas succeed the off -leash programs stress the importance of the involvement of organized dog owners. Ms. Hard explained that their 2 organization will assign site stewards to each area to monitor the off -leash activity. This has been proven to be the most effective type of enforcement. The stewards will help stock doggy bags, help with any landscaping needs, clean up and will apply peer pressure to other park users to obey the rules and regulations. She pointed out that the dog owners that use these areas really have a vested interest in making sure that they succeed because they know that it will be their loss if it fails. She noted that their organization has worked very hard for a long time to get these areas approved and they will continue to work hard to see that these are enjoyable places for everyone for a very long time to come. Ms. Hard indicated that this organization actually started out in Ramsey County and has gone to Bloomington as well as other communities outside of Minneapolis. Ken Grieshaber, Landscape Architect with the Park Board Planning Department gave a presentation on the area that they are currently looking at. He explained that in 1998 when the task force presented their report to the Planning staff their job was to go out and evaluate all of the criteria they talked about as well as come up with their own set of criteria before they went out to look at all of the sites. He pointed out that the first criteria they wanted to establish was to look at the site size and location, the site needed to be a minimum of one acre. Secondly they wanted to equally distribute the site throughout the city because another important issue is overuse. Their intent was to try to design sites that could be accommodated for people to walk to. Thirdly, they wanted to identify sites which currently have fenced or natural buffers on one or more boundaries. Mr. Grieshaber also explained that they wanted to identify potential conflicts with active park areas, a lot of their neighborhood parks as well as yours have conflicts with athletic fields, sledding hills, picnic areas, pathways, play areas, etc. They also needed to look at potential conflicts with passive park areas, other surrounding land uses, potential conflicts with residential housing from the parking potential, environmentalist water bodies and commercial properties. Mr. Grieshaber stated that they also needed to look at site accessibility and safety to make sure that these sites are convenient to people who access with both walking and driving as well as provide adequate on street and off street parking areas. He indicated that they also want to establish sites in areas which allow users to feel safe and secure when they are using the facilities. Mr. Grieshaber explained that the area they are proposing to develop is four acres in size and they are proposing to put a four foot high chain link fence around it. He noted that the research indicated that a fence is really needed in order to make this successful. He pointed out that the number one issue from everyone has been parking. He noted that they are in the process of trying to negotiate with their public works department to put in a small 12 to 15 car parking lot north of the lift station. He indicated that there is currently parking available on the east side of France but not on the west. Mr. Grieshaber stated that because this is a joint venture with three municipalities they are looking at having three separate entrances. He explained they are looking at having two different areas: one where people would take the leash off of their dog and the other one is the actual off -leash area. He pointed out that St. Louis Park currently does not 3 allow dogs in their parks and therefore is something that will need to be worked out. Mr. Grieshaber indicated that the Minneapolis is proposing to provide for all of the sites fencing, entrance gates, trash receptacles, dog waste bags and signage as well as maintenance for some of the vegetation. Mr. Grieshaber then went through some of the rules they are talking about posting at all of the sites such as dogs need to be on their leashes when entering and leaving the facilities, all dog feces need to be picked up and disposed of, no dogs in heat will be allowed at the facilities, at the first sign of aggression dogs need to be leashed, dogs must be kept in view and under voice control at all times and young children must be supervised. Ms. Niemiec noted that ROMP will mainly be enforcing the site with volunteers and will be signing an agreement with the Minneapolis Park Board indicating certain standards that will need to be followed. Ms. Presthus asked what the fee for a whole year would be to which Ms. Niemiec replied for the year 2001 it will cost $25.00 for residents and $35.00 for non-residents. Ms. Presthus asked how much a dog license costs in the City of Minneapolis to which Ms. Niemiec responded it depends on if the dog is neutered or not. Ms. Presthus then asked if Edina residents need to purchase a Minneapolis dog license to which Ms. Niemiec replied they would need to show some type of verification that they do have an Edina dog license. They need to make sure that all of the dogs have been vaccinated. Mr. Klus asked what the hours of operation would be for this site to which Ms. Niemiec replied they will be the same as the park hours, 6:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. Ms. Niemiec explained that they will be doing evaluations to see if they are on the right track and what might need some adjusting. Mr. Klus asked if there have been any discussions on monitoring whether or not the land gets overused or not to which Ms. Niemiec replied that would be part of the evaluation. Ms. Klus asked if this has been a concern. Ms. Niemiec explained that one of the reasons they are charging for these sites is because they are supposed to pay for themselves and the people in charge of maintenance of operations have projected each site to cost approximately $7,000 per site per year. Ms. Niemiec commented that the regular clean up is the responsibility of ROMP and the dog owners. Mr. Housh asked if there is going to be any additional lighting put because in the winter it is very dark in the evening. Ms. Niemiec noted that it all depends on how much money they have available. Currently they have received $100,000 from the capital budget which will basically go towards fencing and commented that lighting is one thing they have heard quite often at their meetings. Mr. Klus asked what has been the discussion and concern on safety and security for this site because the area is quite wooded. Ms. Niemiec pointed out that the volunteer group is monitoring the dogs and part of the rules is that people enter at their own risk. Mr. White asked who will be responsible for policing the area, Minneapolis police or Edina police. Ms. Niemiec explained that is something that the attorneys are currently working on and there will be signs posted indicating who to call in case of an emergency. 4 Mr. Klus asked if there will be a limit as to how many dogs will be allowed in the area at one time to which Ms. Niemiec responded they have not established anything at this time but is something that will need to be worked out. Ms. Hartl commented that it pretty much works itself out. If there are a lot of dogs there people will generally leave and come back at a different time. That usually happens during the peak periods, early in the mornings before work and early evening hours after work. She noted there really haven't been a whole lot of incidences where there were just too many dogs. Mr. White asked how many dogs can one person have with them at a time to which it was noted theoretically they can have three dogs with them however, they need to be in sight and under voice control at all times. Ms. Presthus noted that it is going to take a lot of volunteers to cover all of these sites. Ms. Hard replied that basically the site people are going to be made up of the dog owners who are already using the site on a regular basis. They have a very large membership and a lot of people who want to be site stewards. She noted that the site stewards will be identified so if people have comments or concerns they will know who to approach and the site stewards will report back on a regular basis. Mr. Herring asked if he understands correctly that ROMP has not yet done this in the twin cities area. Ms. Hartl explained that ROMP is an organization that started in Ramsey County where they currently havc two off -leash areas. The program has been in effect for 1 % years and they just received the approval to continue with the program. She noted there are a lot of other chapters but she is with the Minneapolis chapter. Ms. Hartl noted that Bloomington is currently in the process of developing a couple of off - leash areas. Mr. Herring asked how successful Ramsey County has been with enforcing the permits and licenses to which Ms. Hartl replied they have had very good success because the people who use the site really want it to succeed and they know if they don't take care of it and it's not successful they will lose it. Mr. Keprios commented that one of his first concerns is parking. Off street parking is a big issue especially since the only parking available is on France Avenue on the east side. He stated that he feels it is imperative to have at least 10 to 12 identified off-street parking spaces. Mr. Keprios indicated that enforcement is a very big issue for Edina and it sounds like it's still a bit up in the air as to whether or not the Minneapolis Park Board can legally enforce the site or have the resources to monitor the site and that may become a stumbling block. He noted that he is pleased to hear that ROMP is dedicated to helping with enforcement and they are hoping that the Minneapolis Park police can respond to the emergency calls. Mr. Herring asked when will this issue be resolved to which Ms. Niemiec noted that they are hoping to make a recommendation to the Minneapolis Park Board on June 28". She noted that some calls would go to the animal control officer and some would go straight to 911. Mr. Keprios pointed out that whoever purchases a permit to use the site will also sign off on a waiver to hold Edina harmless in case of liability issues. He noted that it was agreed to that Minneapolis would provide clean-up bags as well as trash receptacles that are maintained on a regular basis. Also, Edina residents will be allowed to purchase the 5 permit to use the facility at the Minneapolis resident rate and that an Edina dog license would be adequate. Police Chief, Mike Siitari, indicated that he did attend the March meeting in Minneapolis and he has not seen a whole lot of improvements. He noted that he doesn't think this proposal is anywhere near developed enough to approve it from a police perspective and feels it would become an enforcement problem area for the Edina police. He noted that there are two sites where he would not welcome this and those are Weber Park and Rosland Park. These are problem areas and if this is put in it will double or triple the problems they already have. He noted that the response time is much better with Edina police than it would ever be with any of the Minneapolis enforcement agencies unless they staff it specifically. Therefore, he feels it will fall upon the Edina police. Chief Siitari stated that with true emergencies you will want to use Edina police, but it's going to be a drain on our resources. He noted that he doesn't see any way that this benefits the City of Edina to justify the costs. Minneapolis benefits by being able to say they have an off -leash dog area that benefits all of the residents of their city but the costs fall upon Edina, specifically with enforcement by the Edina Police Department. Mr. White asked if there is a specific dollar figure as to what the increase in cost would be for the staff. Chief Siitari replied that he could not project that. He stated that one question he has is what if someone is violating the law and the volunteer tells that they can't be in there no one is going to want a conflict and the police will be called. He indicated that he doesn't want to see the police department dedicated to enforcing off -leash laws, there are a lot more important things for the police to be doing. Chief Siitari pointed out the traffic safety issue along France Avenue and commented that there are no cross walks for the pedestrians to use which does create a safety issue. France Avenue is a main complaint area and they do issue a lot of speeding tickets along that area. Chief Siitari explained that he feels off -leash dog parks are a good idea but this specific proposal at this site is not well developed at all. Mr. White indicated that approximately three or four years ago there was some discussion of having an off -leash dog park at Todd Park. At that time the animal control officer stated that one thing that does help the compliance is they can inform the dog owners that there is an off -leash dog park where they go where they would not be issued a ticket. Mr. White asked Chief Siitari if he sees that helping to which Chief Siitari replied in theory he is in favor of it but not at this location right off of France Avenue next to Weber Park. He has too many reservations about this site. Ms. Presthus asked Chief Siitari how often right now there are problems at Weber Park and Calvin Christian School with the dog owners. Chief Siitari replied that they have had a couple of confrontations. He noted that he went out to the area right after the Minneapolis meeting and there were four people with their dogs off of leashes which is a violation. He noted that they don't actively go out and enforce this but that number is going to multiply and for people that don't have a permit they will just go next door and use that area. He also added that a lot of people don't clean up after their dogs and there will be problems out there. Mr. Grabiel asked if the law enforcement agencies have had any problems at the two sites in Ramsey County to which Chief Siitari replied he didn't know they even had any and will be sure to check into it. He indicated that he is also very skeptical of finding enough volunteers to man all of the sites for all of the hours of operation. Mr. Herring asked Chief Siitari if he would still be concerned if there was an agreement stating that the primary jurisdiction would be the Minneapolis police. Chief Siitari replied that he would still be concerned because he feels their response time would be lacking. Again, he stated that the true emergencies should be directed to Edina because the response time is so much better. Colette Prohofsky, Edina resident, indicated that she is a dog owner as well as her children attend Calvin Christian School and therefore has views on both sides of the issue. She stated that her main concern is parking because people do park in the school's parking lot all of the time. She indicated that last year the school put up a fence along the property line and people still parked at the school and walked down the whole length of the fence to get to that area. Ms. Prohofsky noted that it would be much more convenient for people to park in the school's parking lot than it would be for them to park on France Avenue. Even if there is a parking lot the school will still be much more convenient to park at and this does concern her. She commented that she wants to be a good neighbor and doesn't mind if people park there but she has heard that there is dog feces on the soccer field and noted that will definitely increase and that really concerns her as a parent. She stated that as a pet owner she is very responsible about cleaning up after her pet but not everyone who owns a dog is responsible. Again, she commented that parking is her main concern. Delois Fechner, Edina resident, indicated that she lives adjacent to where the proposed off -leash site would be located. She asked why can't people fence in their own yards for their dogs to run. She noted that it's already difficult living on France Avenue and doesn't like the idea of parking along the east side of France Avenue, it's dangerous. She noted that she feels the $100,000 could be put to better use. Debbie Smith, Edina resident, indicated that she is a dog owner and her yard is fenced, however, it is not large enough to let her dog adequately run. She noted that she is in favor of an off -leash dog site in Edina. Ethan Rogers, Edina resident, indicated that looking out his window he can see the proposed area. He noted that this property is not just sitting in a vacuum, kids ride their bikes and play in there every day and by putting a fence in for dogs in essence you are fencing the kids out. Mr. Rogers stated that he is a dog owner and loves dogs but if this is put in there will be maybe 10 dogs at once there but how many kids will not be able to play there as a result 7 of that. This is one vacant lot where the kids love to play. Mr. Rogers stated that he hopes the Edina Park Board is not going to look at what is best for the Minneapolis residents and politicians but look at how it affects the residents of Edina. He noted that his is sure that there are going to be a bunch of Edina residents who are dog owners who are going to get permits for this site. However, there are going to be 100 kids who aren't going to be allowed in that area anymore because they are already afraid of the dogs. Mr. Rogers pointed out that if this is approved there will be who knows how many dogs out there with their owners controlling them by voice which means there will be a lot of shouting going on out his back door from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Along with that there will be cars pulling in, slamming doors and dogs barking. Also, there are no restroom facilities available for the dog owners so you can add some odor into that mixture as well. Therefore, what's in this for Edina. Mr. Rogers also pointed out that the area cannot be made handicap accessible and handicap people have a right to bring their dogs too. He stated that this area is a residential neighborhood and it's going to become a public meeting place to draw all of these people and we don't need it, there are no pluses for Edina with this as far as he sees it. Bob Clinton, Edina resident, indicated that he has a dog and feels Edina needs at least one off -leash dog park. He noted that this area is not a legal park right now, people are trespassing on Minneapolis property, therefore, if it's put to a use that's legal then the city actually gets something out of it. He stated that if this isn't a good place for it then maybe Edina needs to find that because we could really use one in Edina. Heather Duke, Edina resident, indicated that she is in favor of an off -leash dog park and a lot of issues have been identified as problematic at this proposed site. She noted that she would like to say that dog parks do promote community and bring people together with a common interest. It also helps dogs to interact with other dogs and people on regular basis which in turn helps dogs become calmer. She stated that this is a very positive experience for dog owners. Ms. Duke commented that if this site doesn't work out with the City of Minneapolis the City of Edina needs to address the community's need and desire for a dog park within our city. Randy Meyer, Edina resident, indicated that he lives right across from Calvin Christian School and is a pet owner, however, he has some problems with this park. He noted that one of the primary issues he has is currently dogs are running loose all over Weber field and next to his property on a regular basis. People are parking at Weber Park field with their dogs loaded up in their vehicles where they come running out and circle around next to his property and then take off into the woods. Mr. Meyer commented that he never heard mentioned how rough the terrain is back there and noted that they can't just go back there and put up a fence for $12,000. There is some major landscaping that needs to be done. He stated that he is also concerned about the parking and the traffic that is going through Calvin Christian School and Weber Park. Bob Shaw indicated that he is with Calvin Christian School and their primary concern has been the parking issue. He explained that they put up a fence along the east side of the property from Weber Field all the way up to the park in an attempt to cut down on the number of people who park in the schools parking lot to let their dogs nin free. He stated that it has cut down a little bit, however, nothing substantial and people are still parking there. Mr. Shaw noted that since they have put up the fence some people are now parking over at the Weber Park comfort station and the dogs go and run over in that area as well. He indicated that he doesn't think by putting in a small fence in the area it's going to cut down on the people who are currently bringing their dogs there. He again stated that their main concern is parking and dog owners letting their dogs out of their cars with small children around. John Carlson, Edina Animal Control officer, indicated that they receive an average of 2 to 3 complaints a week in that area and usually more during the summer months. He noted that they see it all the time where people are parking at Weber Park and Calvin Christian School unloading their dogs to run. He noted that they have handed out citations and a copy of the city ordinance to people but that's not working. He noted that voice command does not work for a lot of dogs even when dog owners are screaming at the top of their lungs. There are often times dogs running loose throughout Weber Park. It has long been a problem area. Kenneth Duke, Edina resident, indicated that he attends this park three days a week with his dog. He noted that his opinion is that there are more juice boxes and garbage from soccer moms than there is dog feces. He stated that at spring clean up they cleaned up more garbage than they did dog feces. Most people pick up after their dogs and now with ROMP involved it will for sure stay clean. He indicated that if the Park Board turns this down people are going to keep doing it anyway and you won't be able to enforce it because people are still going to be sneaking around and taking the leashes off of their dogs. Mr. Keprios explained that this is not the first time an off -leash site has been brought before the Park Board for action. The Park Board considered requests from the Todd Park neighborhood in the recent past. However, what's unique about this site is that it is not a park that the City of Edina owns and is not to be looked upon as a park. The City of Minneapolis Public Works owns this property. Mr. Keprios stated that he looks at this as an opportunity. The City of Minneapolis has essentially asked the City of Edina for a change in our ordinance and for the Park Board's recommendation to help make this happen. It's not Edina's decision whether the site should be used for a bike path, a walking path, a nature trail, etc. It's not land that is owned by the City of Edina. The Minneapolis Park Board has come to us with a recommendation for an opportunity for a first ring suburb of Minneapolis to have an off -leash dog site where we currently don't have one. He noted that in the past they have looked at other sites within the City of Edina that will possibly be considered as they go down the road. However, at this time this might be a great test site to see how it works out. If this site doesn't work out then maybe look at another area for a trial period. • Mr. Keprios pointed out that the Park Board has been asked to hold hands with two other jurisdictions on this and to remember this is not Edina park land. He indicated that with 9 regards to enforcement he respects what Chief Siitari has said and stated that he himself cannot say if it is or is not going to work enforcement wise. Mr. Keprios commented that he doesn't think we can say the volunteers can or cannot do the job until they've had the chance to prove what they can do. He pointed out that off -leash sites are sweeping the country and have been proven to work and feels we should give it a try because we always have the option of backing out. Mr. Keprios explained that having an off -leash dog site would probably require a change in our ordinance because currently we do not allow any off -leash dogs at any of the parks. However, there are people out there doing it, therefore, why not see if we can control it and hopefully some of the irresponsible dog owners might take it upon themselves to go to where there are rules and regulations of enforcement on a more regular basis. Mr. Keprios commented that he does think dog parks promote community. He indicated that he understands the issue with having a gate near the Calvin Christian School and hopes that issue can be worked out. He also noted that he hopes the Minneapolis Park Board is successful in having Minneapolis enforce the property and feels those issues can be worked out. Mr. Klus indicated that he likes the concept of an off -leash dog park but feels there are too many open issues to take action at this time. He noted that he especially has a problem with it being open in the evening during the winter hours when it's dark, he doesn't mind during the day when it can be properly monitored and enforced. However, at night with a wide open area like that and no lights he has a concern. Again, Mr. Klus noted that he feels there are too many open issues to push this through and make a recommendation at this time. He would like to wait until some of the issues have been resolved and brought back before the Park Board. Mr. Grabiel asked if it is possible that given what has been said tonight will the people from Minneapolis be able to come back to us so we can take a look at what you are proposing with some of the parking issues and access issues being addressed. Dean Zimmerman, Minneapolis Park Commissioner, noted that he thinks they are certainly willing to go back and take a look at it and make some modifications. He indicated that in terms of enforcement possibly the Minneapolis Park Board could lease the land from Minneapolis Public Works for a nominal fee which would then give them some empowerment to run their policing. He stated that with parking he is not sure but again they will go to public works and see if they can put in some parking. Mr. Grabiel indicated that he is concerned about a couple of comments that were made where dog owners have indicated that if they get an off -leash dog park they are going to go ahead and do it anyway in the parks. He noted that is not a very good way to persuade a public body to do anything. He noted that he also was offended by one letter complaining about overzealous enforcement and commented that ordinances and rules need to be enforced. 10 Mr. White commented that he has a couple of reservations with the number one being parking, we do need to make sure that there is adequate parking there. He noted he would also like to see there be only one entrance and not three to make it easier for the volunteer who is supervising the park and have it located wherever the nearest parking is. He indicated that he also thinks that would cut down on the number of people cutting through Calvin Christian School and Weber Park. Mr. White noted that he is also concerned about security and wants to make sure that there is an agreement in place as to who needs to respond to emergency calls. He stated that he is also in agreement with Mr. Klus in that he doesn't feel he can give his final approval until some the items discussed have been resolved. Mr. Finsness indicated that if even one or two neighbors are truly in ear shot of the barking, yelping, whistling, etc., for even a two year test would be a horrible thing to have to live with. Mr. Fredlund questioned if it would it be any different than it is right now. George Klus MOVED THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE AUGUST PARK BOARD MEETING IN ORDER TO GIVE THE MINNEAPOLIS PARK BOARD TIME TO GET BACK TO US WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES ADDRESSED. Tom White SECONDED THE MOTION. Mr. Housh asked what specific issues are we going to wait to hear back on to which Mr. Herring replied the issues that Mr. Keprios has raised and that parking is very critical to his vote. Mr. Herring also noted that he agrees there are a lot of issues that still need to be resolved. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY TO TABLE THE ISSUE. Mr. Herring thanked everyone who attended the meeting. III. RESULTS OF LEWIS PARK BANDY/SOCCER FIELD STUDY Mr. Keprios noted that as his staff report points out unless there is any funding that becomes available soon his recommendation is to keep everything status quo and continue to have bandy. Mr. MacHolda indicated that he would like to see the area termed green space and eliminate the word soccer because there is also football, rugby, lacrosse, etc. to which it was noted that area is multi-purpose. Mr. Herring asked if irrigation is really required for that area to which Mr. Keprios replied yes in order to maintain it at the level that we are being expected to. IV. UPDATES: 11 A. City/School Referendum Update - Mr. Keprios noted that the city/school referendum has been postponed and it looks like they are leaning towards a May 2001 special election referendum. The Mayor is currently looking at establishing a blue ribbon committee which has yet to be determined. Mr. Keprios added that he thinks this is very positive. B. Grandview Square - Sherwood Park - Mr. Keprios indicated that the City Council did approve the Grandview Square proposal and did use the plan that was shown at the last Park Board meeting. C. Skate Park - Mr. MacHolda indicated that on June 21" there will be a meeting at 7:00 p.m. at the Southdale YMCA. He noted that each city, Edina, Bloomington and Richfield, are doing their own advertising of this meeting and it looks like everything is moving forward. He stated that in terms of funding they have $120,000 without solicitation from private businesses because each city is committed to funding $40,000. Mr. MacHolda explained that they are looking at doing a combination of an indoor/outdoor skate park which would have in-line skating, skate boards and trick bikes. Mr. Keprios indicated that at the meeting they hope to establish a task force of youth to help design this and added that the YMCA is very much committed to this. D. Park and Recreation Summer Intern - Mr. Keprios introduced Matt Graber, Park and Recreation's summer intern, who will be with us until August 18`h. He noted that he has already been a big help. E. Fishing Pier Grand Opening - Mr. Keprios informed the Park Board that the grand opening of the fishing pier at Lake Cornelia will be on June 21" at 1:15 p.m. He stated that they will be recognizing the Department of Natural Resources people who have helped make this happen along with Edina Realty who donated $5,000 towards the pier. Mr. Keprios pointed out that the DNR has already stocked the lake with 346 keeper -sized blue gills. V. OTHER A. Wooddale Park - Mr. Housh asked what is the status with Wooddale Park because a lot of people have been asking him about the playground. Mr. Keprios replied that the trusses for the comfort station were supposed to be delivered today and noted that if all goes well the playground equipment will be in the ground and usable by the Fourth of July weekend. He noted that the comfort station is supposed to be ready and operational by July 28'. B. Turf Management - Ms. Presthus asked what has happened with the turf management. Mr. Keprios replied that the City Council made it real clear that they are not pleased with the looks of things. Therefore, he has been directed to establish a plan of action to that meets their expectations. C. Centennial Lakes - Mr. Grabiel commented that he recently saw some cranes at Centennial Lakes Park. Mr. Klus asked for an update on Centennial Lakes Park. Mr. 12 Keprios replied that they are quickly finishing off the rest of the remaining development because this is the end of the sunset period where they have to use the tax increment funding which is what developed the whole park. He noted that the north and south ends are being completed, which will complete development of the entire park. Mr. Keprios noted that he's real proud of Tom Shirley and his staff out there, they do an outstanding job of programming and maintenance. Mr. Grabiel commented that the combination of everything that goes on out there is utterly fantastic. VI. ADJOURNMENT George Klus MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9:30 P.M. Floyd Grabiel SECONDED THE MOTION. MEETING ADJOURNED. 13 Memo To: John Keprios and Park Board From: John Valliere and Staff CC: Dennis Maetzold Date: September 5, 2000 Re: Wine Sales We feel that Breamar's clientele would like the opportunity to enjoy a glass of wine at the golf course. The staff's recommendations are as follows: Sell per glass at clubhouse (avoiding carafes and control issues). Use bulk dispense (avoiding taking bottles on course). Do not sell on beverage cart (control issues). Again, we feel there are a minimum of issues with selling wine and would be a profitable menu item but, we feel that hard liquor sales are not necessary and could create a number of problems. 0 Page 1 i City of Minneapolis Office of the City Attorney Jay M. Htffe , City Attcrne;, 333 SOUlh 71h Slreel - Suite Si Q Minneapolis MN 55»Oz 2x53 Office (672) 673-:01U Civil Division Fax 673-3362 Criminal Division Fal 673-2189 MCDA Fax 673-51112 TTY 673.2157 DATE: August 3, 2000 TO: Belinda Davis Park Community Pla ner FROM- Carol Lansing its` Assistant Minneapolis City Attorney RE: Law Enforcement Jurisdictional Issues Related to Proposed France Avenue OLRA Site MEMORANDUM I have revie,,,ved the ,memo dated July 13, 2000, that Deputy Chief Schwartz of the Edina Police Department sent to you following his meeting with Lt. Evenrud regarding the proposal that the Minneapolis Park Board establish an off leash recreation area ("OLRA") on property owned by the City of Minneapolis but located along France Avenue in Edina. It appears that the meeting was very helpful in reaching some agreements on how law enforcement response could be coordinated at the proposed OLRA. However, I believe that a few issues merit some further discussion or clarification. Law Enforcement Jurisdiction My understanding from reading the memo from Deputy Chief Schwartz is that the Edina Police Department agrees to continue to respond to emergency calls for service and respond to complaints of criminal activity that occur in the OLRA in the same manner that they would anywhere within the City of Edina, with the following exceptions: Edina officers will not enforce violations of park board ordinances, (Without a joint powers agreement, they would not have jurisdiction to do so anyway.) Deputy Chief Schwartz's memo states that Edina Police Department Animal Control Officers will not be responsible for any enforcement for incidents occurring within the OLRA. With respect to the enforcement of Park Board ordinances, I think it would be useful to clarify how Park Police officers plan to monitor or respond to violations. Of course, they can patrol the OLRA and respond to any violations they observe. It is also possible that a complainant could contact the Park Police office directly. The Edina Police could also Krv�•h.d.minneapa�!s.mn.us At14Ctnetivb Hcison Em;�1=�y-.: contact the Park Police if, upon response to a call for service, they determine that the p Park Police should handle the matter. My understanding from D.C. Schwartz's memo, however, is that no special arrangements need to be made with 911 dispatch regarding routing of calls for service to the OLRA. I think the question of whether Edina Animal Control Officers will or will not have enforcement responsibilities within the OLRA requires further discussion. Minneapolis Animal Control Officers do not have jurisdiction in Edina, and Minneapolis animal control ordinances do not apply in the proposed OLRA. On the other hand, while I am not familiar with Edina's Charter and ordinances, they may contain some obligation on the part of Edina to conduct animal control within its city limits that should not be relinquished without some formal reassignment of responsibility. In order for Minneapolis Animal Control Officers to have authority to impound animals or take other enforcement action for incidents that occur in the France Avenue OLRA, there would need to be a joint powers agreement between the cities and the Park Board pursuant to Minn. Stat. § 471.59. Further, even under a joint powers agreement, Minneapolis Animal Control Officers may be limited to enforcement of Edina animal control ordinances and state law - it may not be possible to apply Minneapolis animal control ordinances in the France Avenue OLRA. If we are going to pursue a joint powers agreement, we will need to clarify several issues, including what law will apply, whether the Edina or Minneapolis City Attorneys will have responsibility for associated court actions, where impounded animals will be kept, and how those animals +will be processed. I suggest that Bob Marotto meet with the person who supervises the animal control operations in Edina to discuss what type and number of animal control responses are expected for the proposed OLRA and to discuss what alternatives exist for enforcement. At this point, I don't know what the practical concerns are for the parties. Is Edina concerned with the personnel time it might take to respond to the OLRA? Or about lack of impound space or additional impound costs? Depending upon their specific concerns, we may find that there are better ways than a joint powers agreement to address those problems, such as cost reimbursement. If not, the meeting would also allow us to explore the questions I raised in the preceding paragraph regarding what provisions a joint powers agreement would need to contain. I would be happy to join the meeting and I think it would be useful if you or another person could attend the meeting on behalf of the Park Board. Potential Conflict with Edina Ordinances From the information that I took off the Edina web site, Edina ordinances require dogs to be restrained by a leash whenever it is "off its owner's property." Dogs restrained by voice commands as effectively as by a leash are exempt from the leash rule "except in public parks," where all dogs must be leashed at all times. Thus, I believe that users of the France Avenue OLRA would be violating Edina ordinances. I suggest that you discuss with the Edina police and prosecutor's office whether they feel that the Edina 2 ordinance should be amended to specifically exempt the OLRA from the Edina leash ordinance. Suggested Park Board Ordinance Amendments Because Minneapolis City ordinances do not apply in OLRAs outside of the city limits, I suggest that the Park Board consider amending its ordinances (which do apply in parks outside of the City) to include the regulations of conduct in the OLRAs that have already been into,-porated into City ordinance. I have attached a copy of these provisions. Specifically, I suggest that the Park Board include an exception to the leashing requirements of PB2-18 to allow dogs to be off -leash in an OLRA (see MCO 64.50(a) as amended). I also recommend that the Park Board adopt the provisions of new MCO 64.55 (a) and (d), which regulate conduct in an OLRA. (The provisions of 64.55(b) and (c) relate only to permit administration and i don't believe they need to be included in Park Board ordinances.) Without such amendments, for example, it would not be possible to issue a citation to a person who uses an OLRA outside of the City limits without a permit. I also think it is a good idea for these provisions, which regulate conduct in areas under Park Board control, to be codified in the Park Board ordinances. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the suggestions that I have made. Also, please let me know if you agree with my recommendatiom regarding a meeting with Edina to discuss the animal control issues. If you do, I will follow up with Bob Marotto to set up the meeting. C'. Lt. Loren Evenrud, Minneapolis Park Police Jim Michels, Park Board Attorney Bob Marottc, Minneapolis Animal Control Joan, Peterson, Deputy Minneapolis City Attorney, Criminal Division Michael Ncrton, Deputy Minneapolis City Attorney, Civil Division 9 TOTAL P.0O kry A'aail; C sol-'—;, Vice Presidenr Bob Fuc Commissioners En -ie Mm Rodleue Berry Case watt 14cl6c Vivian Mas«-, Soca L Neiman Annie Yauftg 1= 717tttr rn— Supermrerdtnt Mary Merrill ArK ai Secrenvy w the BeA rd Noman c. Marifieid,1:J. a. Adnvr,am we Offices 400 South Fcxmb SMZ1 Suits 2QI August 18, 2000 Craig Larsen Planning Director City of Edina _ 4801 Wesf_5o_th Street Edina, MN 55424-1394 Dear Mr. Larsen, The Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board (MPRB) is establishing off -leash recreation areas for dogs in the City of Minneapolis. Four sites have been approved and four additional sites are under consideration pending further review and evaluation. The Minneapolis Water Works land at 40t1i and France is a proposed off -leash recreation area site that is under consideration pending further review and evaluation. MPRB and Minneapolis Animal Control staff, along with representatives from the ktinneapolis Chapter of Responsible Owners of Mannerly Pets (ROMP), have provided information to Edina Park and Recreation in its effort to move forward on this project. Plans for the off -leash recreation area at this site address creating off-street parking. There is also a possibility that the land is currently zoned for a purpose other than the proposed off -leash recreation area for dogs. This off -leash site will be fenced and information and regulatory signs will be posted. The City of Minneapolis requires completion of a conditional use permit to address several of these items. Since a portion of this land is within the city limits of Edina, please inform me of the process that is needed to address the above-mentioned zoning concerns. I would greatly appreciate a written response to this inquiry. In addition, would you please send me the application or conditional use permit that your department requires to complete this process. A copy of the concept is enclosed for your review. I may be reached at (612) 661-4825 if you need further information. Thank you for your assistance on this matter. I Icon forward to your reply. Mirtr NQ45511s-1 Sincerely, Phone: 612.661.4300 Far- 612-661-4 TT7 M7 612-661.4798 (:�Z yR .I OperrLdcrsCenre' 2ellnda Davis 3800BrynntAvmueSouth Park Community Planner ,n:apolis, MN 554C19•1029 e: 612370.49.10 1 612-370-4€31 Enclosure: Concept of Off -Leash Recreation Area site at 40L"' and France 60jd Ovpvtuvy F'ro.,cwe. taloa o -a ;OCT -UN -rd sl+tz'n ro_-c,� sups W% Pte" wry r,;r Q%pl aying for iiift' City of Edna August 29; 2000 Ms. Belinda Davis Park Community Planner Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board 400 South Fourth Street Minneapolis, NQ.T 55415 Dear Ms. Davis: Thank you for your letter and concept plan for the off -leash recreation area near 40"' and France. After reviewing the plan and applicable ordinances, I have determined that no Conditional Use Permit, or other special permit will be required to develop the proposed park. I suggest that you continue to work with John Keprios and the Park Board to continue the process of developing the park. I have been informed by John that our Animal Control Ordinance will need be amended to allow dogs to run off -leash. You should check with John on the status and timin- of the amendment. Please call me at 952.826.0460 if you have any further questions. Since e y, Ij Craig Lar- n Director f Planning City Hall (612) 927-8861 4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826.0390 EDINA, MINNF.50TA 55424.1394 TDD (612) 826-0379 El To: Belinda Davis, Parr Community Planner From: S.A. Schwartz Jr. Deputy Chief, Edina Police Dept. pat,: July, 13,2000 Re: Off Leash Dog Park, 4000 France Ave. Per our meeting of July 12, 2000 1 submit this memorandum of agreement with regard to the Edina Police Department's response to incidents occurring in the purposed off leash dog park at 4000 France Ave. The Edina Poeice Department will respond along with necessary fire rescue personnei z ali calls for emergency service in the purposed park. The Edina Police Department will respond to all complaints of criminal activity in the purposed park. The Edina Police Department will document, investigate and request appropriate prosecution in al; cases involving violation of State Statute or City Code, except those relatod to simple violation of park regulation_ Animal Control Officers of the Edina Police Department will not be responsible for any enforcement on the purposed park property. Edina Animal Control Officers may enter the purposed park to take enforcement action against individuals committing violations of Edina Animal regulations on the way to the park. The Edina Police Department and its officers will assist in any way possible to assist the Minneapolis Park Department' and the Minneapolis Park Police in making the Purposed off leash dog park at 4000 t=rance Ave a healthy, safe and enjoyable environment. 0 Peee 1 EDINA POLICE DEPARTMENT To: Belinda Davis, Parr Community Planner From: S.A. Schwartz Jr. Deputy Chief, Edina Police Dept. pat,: July, 13,2000 Re: Off Leash Dog Park, 4000 France Ave. Per our meeting of July 12, 2000 1 submit this memorandum of agreement with regard to the Edina Police Department's response to incidents occurring in the purposed off leash dog park at 4000 France Ave. The Edina Poeice Department will respond along with necessary fire rescue personnei z ali calls for emergency service in the purposed park. The Edina Police Department will respond to all complaints of criminal activity in the purposed park. The Edina Police Department will document, investigate and request appropriate prosecution in al; cases involving violation of State Statute or City Code, except those relatod to simple violation of park regulation_ Animal Control Officers of the Edina Police Department will not be responsible for any enforcement on the purposed park property. Edina Animal Control Officers may enter the purposed park to take enforcement action against individuals committing violations of Edina Animal regulations on the way to the park. The Edina Police Department and its officers will assist in any way possible to assist the Minneapolis Park Department' and the Minneapolis Park Police in making the Purposed off leash dog park at 4000 t=rance Ave a healthy, safe and enjoyable environment. 0 Peee 1 5209 Abercrombie Drive Edina, Minnesota 55439 July 24, 2000 John Keprios Park & Recreation Director City of Edina 4801 West 50th Street Edina, Minnesota 55424-1394 RE: Donations/Memorials Policy Dear John, We had talked in your office about donating money for getting a park bench in memory of our son Nathan who had suicided on October 9, 1999. At that meeting you had said that you were presenting to the powers to be a proposal for a policy on donations/memorials. This policy is now in place as I understand. I feel your policy is a fair and a just policy. I had the opportunity to tour the parks of Edina and I feel now like several other people that it would be nice just to walk thru an Edina park and not see every other "thing" saying :in memory of'. The one that convinced me your then proposed policy was the Scott memorial in Lake Cornelia Park. And my thoughts were confirmed with your last statement in the Edina Sun which was and I paraphrase "...and the families expect he Park board to keep up the memorial" Since the Scott memorial deals with trees and flowers I think this is asking a lot of the city to keep it up. Just think if Edina had 30 or 50 of these. There sure would be a hue and cry of how our tax money was being spent. It is my hope that an inventory of the memorials is made in the city of Edina as your proposal had said so that everything is logged in as of a specific date. The date being the effective date of the new Donation/Memorials policy. It is my hope that this would be a solid date. What I mean is that I hope the city has the ability to hard line follow the policy and avoid some "pushy very affluent person" who comes up six figure numbers after the policy is in force or any amount of money to have a monument to their liking built as a memorial in the park system. And the person or family says you get the money if the monument is built. I really do hope the city will not bend to those type of pressures. Because it is unfair to people like me who cannot "wave" millions around to get their way. I also like the idea that the donation has to be a one shot deal to qualify for the level you plan to give instead of acumulation to get to the higher level. What an accounting nightmare that would be. So with that thought in mind, this family is going to reconsider our desire to donate to the Edina Park System. The reconsideration is that we are thinking of accumulating funds so that we can have a permanent bronze casting on permanent display at a location approved by the Park and Recreation Director. Or if possible accumulate enough funds thru friends neighbors and the family to obtain the next level. I wanted to tell you that I feel the policy is fair. I wanted to tell you we will be working within the framework of the policy. But also I want you to be aware that if Edina should ever develop a park specifically for memorials we would be very interested in placing a memorial dedicated to Nate there. I am sure there is some swampy unusable land in Edina that this idea may considered. Just a thought. So then you could use this park for a specific memorial to a person and a requirement of matching funds to be used elsewhere with the matching funds having no recognition in the park system. Just a thought again. 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