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EDINA PARK BOARD City of Edina
Tuesday, May 13, 1997
7:30 p.m.
*Council Chambers
*PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MEETING WILL BE HELD IN THE CITY
COUNCIL CHAMBERS (NOT THE MANAGER'S CONFERENCE
ROOM).
AGENDA
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1. Approval of April 8, 1997, Park Board meeting
Minutes.
*2. Spikeless Golf Shoes - Braemar and Fred Richards Golf
Courses.
*3. Senior Citizen Center Proposal.
*4. Todd Park Master Plan.
*5. Heights Park Master Plan.
*6. Walnut Ridge Park Master Plan.
7. Park Referendum Update.
8. Other.
*9. Adjournment.
* These are agenda items that require or request Park Board
action.
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To: Edina Park Board. '
From: John Keprios, Directof),, 1
Edina Park and Recreation Department
Date: May 7, 1997
Re: STAFF REPORT (MEETING IS IN COUNCIL ROOM!.
Enclosed you should find the following items:
1. Tuesday, May 13, 1997, Park Board Agenda.
2. Tuesday, April 8, 1997, Park Board Minutes.
3. Letters to residents of Heights Park, Walnut Ridge Park and Todd Park from the Edina
Park and Recreation Department.
4. Letters from resident neighbors of Heights Park, Walnut Ridge Park and
Todd Park.
5. Summary of results of Todd Park Neighborhood Input Meeting.
5. Senior Citizen Center Proposal from TSP Architects.
STAFF REPORT
The following is the monthly staff report concerning each item on the agenda with
the exception of Approval of the Minutes and Other. "Other" is listed on the
agenda in case last minute items come up between now and the Park Board
meeting, plus, cover any other concerns of Park Board members and/or attendees.
SPIKELESS GOLF SHOES - BRAEMAR AND FRED RICHARDS GOLF COURSES
This is a staff recommendation that the City of Edina establish a policy that requires
all golfers to use spikeless golf shoes, which would take effect at the beginning of
the 1998 golf season.
The main reason for the recommendation is because research has shown that spikes
on golf shoes are harmful to the greens. Spikes have a tendency to create
irregularities on the putting surface of greens to a point that the path of a golf ball
can be altered by the damage.
It is my understanding that spikeless golf shoes are already the policy at the Edina
Country Club and Interlachen Country Club. This is becoming an increasingly popular
trend across the country and would be of great benefit to the City of Edina°s public
golf courses, which receive a tremendous amount of play each year.
John Valliere will be present to answer questions the proposal and will bring samples
of soft spike alternatives for golf shoes.
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It is staff's proposal that the spikeless golf shoe policy be publicized throughout the
1997 golf season to give our customers adequate warning. Park Board action is
. equested on this matter.
SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER PROPOSAL
As you may recall, the Edina Senior Citizen Advisory Committee approached the
Edina Park Board and Edina City Council just over one year ago to request
consideration for a more permanent Edina Senior Citizen Center. It was the City
Council's decision to have staff research alternatives for a permanent facility.
Since that time, staff has been working closely with the Southdale YMCA to study
the feasibility of designing and constructing a Senior Citizen Center facility that
would be attached to the Southdale YMCA on York Avenue. The Southdale YMCA is
currently planning on expanding their existing facilities, which could be done jointly
with the City of Edina's proposed Senior Citizen Center.
Enclosed is a copy of a Facilities Study completed by the Architect/Engineering firm
of TSP/Eos. As you will note, this Facilities Study outlines the cost of the project
($1.28 to $1.31 million) and covers the numerous details of the site, building and
concept plans.
This joint venture has numerous advantages and few disadvantages, which will be
covered in a brief staff presentation to the Park Board.
After several meetings with YMCA personnel and policy makers, the YMCA has
recently committed to submitting a letter of understanding to the City of Edina in
stating their agreement to the following points:
• CONSTRUCTION COSTS. The City of Edina would pay for all of the construction
costs associated with the Senior Center. The YMCA would pay for all costs
associated with its facility expansion.
• RESIDENCY. No residency requirement would be imposed on prospective
members. However, the City would reserve the right to charge a higher
membership fee to non-residents (perhaps as much as 50% more depending on
the level of support provided by the City to the Senior Center).
• PARKING. The Senior Center would enjoy exclusive use of the first two rows of
parking adjacent to the Center (i.e. about 43 spaces) between the hours of 9:00
a.m. and 3:00 p.m., Monday through Friday.
• SHARED ROOMS. The YMCA would enjoy exclusive use of Senior Center rooms
during evenings and weekends. The Senior Center would be allowed to schedule
day time activities in YMCA facilities.
• MAINTENANCE. The YMCA would assume all obligations with respect to day to
day maintenance of the Senior Center, the parking lot, landscaping, etc. This
obligation, however, would not include repairs, replacements, painting etc.
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UTILITIES. The YMCA would pay all utility charges (heat, light, water, sewer,
etc.) attributable to the Senior Center.
• PROGRAMMING. The City would agree that the YMCA would be the sole
provider of all indoor, fitness related programming for seniors. In other words,
the Senior Center could not hire an instructor or offer a fitness program apart
from the YMCA. Similarly, the YMCA would agree that the Senior Center would
be the sole provider of all non -fitness related senior programs. In other words,
the YMCA could not offer senior bus trips, card clubs, etc. apart from the Senior
Center.
• MEMBERSHIP. The YMCA presently offers membership discounts to individuals
and couples age 62 and over. Only one member of a household need be 62 for
the couple to receive the discount. Such individuals and couples receive 25% off
the normal membership fee. Therefore, a senior individual pays $30.75 and a
senior couple pays $45.75 per month. The YMCA also charges a joiner's fee of
$99.00 for individuals and $129.00 for couples. At present, the YMCA has 280
senior individual memberships and 130 dual memberships (which represents 260
members). The Edina Senior Center currently has approximately 1,500 members.
All senior members of the YMCA would automatically be members of the Senior
Center. For this consideration, the YMCA would pay the City the resident
monthly membership fee for the Senior Center for each of the YMCA's senior
members. For example, if the resident membership fee for the Senior Center is
$1.00 per month and the YMCA has 540 senior YMCA members, the YMCA
would pay the City $540.00 per month for the mandatory memberships to the
Senior Center.
The YMCA is willing to extend fee based program participation to Senior Center
members without the requirement that they be YMCA members. Therefore,
Senior Center members could participate in step classes, aquatics, aerobics, etc.
without the requirement that they be members. Senior Center members wishing
to use the YMCA for unstructured activities, such as the fitness room or pool,
would of course have to join the YMCA.
There are still a few issues that would need to be further addressed should this
proposal receive approval in concept by the Park Board and City Council. Two
examples of those issues would be:
1 . The name of the new Senior Center Facility.
2. Any possible increase to the Senior Center Membership Fee, which is currently
only $6.00 per year.
The new Edina Senior Center at the YMCA would be 9,600 square feet, which is
approximately 2,550 square feet more than the current Senior Center at the Edina
'ommunity Center, which is 7,285 square feet.
The construction of a new Edina Senior Center would be financed with revenue
ponds backed by Edina's Liquor Store Fund profits. The sale of these bonds can be
authorized by the City Council without a need for a referendum.
As you will note in a letter and memo from Doug Johnson, the Edina Public Schools
are willing to extend the existing lease to the City of Edina to December 31, 2005.
The new lease would require the City to pay a very reasonable cost per square foot
for a variety of expenses incurred by the School to provide and maintain space for
the Edina Senior Center.
Please know that the Edina Senior Citizen Advisory Committee has been invited to
attend the Park Board meeting to share their views on this important issue.
In summary, you will see in staff's brief presentation at the meeting, that staff
recommends that the proposed YMCA/Edina Senior Center Partnership Project be
approved in concept by the Park Board.
TODD PARK MASTER PLAN
On April 2, 1997, 617 letters were mailed out to resident neighbors of Todd Park to
solicit their input regarding the final proposed master plan for park improvements. As
you will note in the letter, residents were also invited to attend a neighborhood input
meeting at City Hall on April 17, 1997, at 7:30 p.m. A written summary of results of
that meeting are also enclosed for your review.
As a result of the neighborhood input meeting, the most significant change in staff's
recommendation from the original plan is to recommend construction of a hard
surface pathway before funding an outdoor hockey rink. There are not adequate
funds for both at this time and the majority opinion seemed to favor that approach.
The cost to construct a new outdoor hockey rink with fencing and hard surface is
approximately $33,000. The City Engineer's estimate to construct a 6' bituminous
pathway around Todd Park is approximately $35,000. There is currently not
adequate funding to provide both at this time.
With such a significant change in direction, I felt that it was necessary to follow up
with another letter to the same area residents to inform them of the new direction
and the upcoming process. Therefore, on April 25, a follow up letter of information
was sent to area residents (copy enclosed).
The large number of residents on the Todd Park mailing list (618)was mainly due to
the densely populated number of senior citizens in the apartment complex adjacent to
the park. The Brookside Apartment/Condominium Association approached me a over
a year to be sure to include them in any future Todd Park area resident mailings.
Normally notices are sent to approximately 200 households that are nearest a
particular park when requesting input or informing them of upcoming park related
issues.
Based on all of the community input (letters, phone calls, personal visits and the
neighborhood input meeting), staff recommends the following Park Referendum
funded improvements be made to Todd Park:
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Park shelter building with restrooms.
• New playground equipment.
New six-foot wide bituminous pathway around the park.
• Softball field improvements (backstop repair, bleacher and irrigation).
In the past two years, Todd Park has received a new full-size basketball court with
standards and rebuilt tennis courts. In addition, the old City -owned house located in
Todd Park has been razed and the property restored to a natural turf condition.
Please know that the new playground equipment for Todd Park was approved by the
City Council on Monday, May 5, 1997.
It is staff's recommendation that the Park Board approve the master plan for Todd
Park as outlined above. Park Board action is requested on this matter.
HEIGHTS PARK MASTER PLAN
On April 2, 1997, a letter and master plan map (copy enclosed) were mailed to 248
resident neighbors of Heights Park. All of the written responses are enclosed for
your review.
The input from the neighboring residents has been very helpful in determining a
reasonable master plan for Heights Park improvements that appeals to the majority.
The most debated or controversial proposed park improvement is the relocation of
he half -court basketball court. It was staff's original recommendation to relocate the
oasketball court on the south-west end of the park, as shown on the map. It
appears as though the majority of the residents do not approve of the proposed
location.
Therefore, it is staff's recommendation that a half -court basketball court be
constructed on the east side of the park (please see revised master plan map) where
there have been other park amenities, such as tetherball and volleyball (old hard
surface areas). The relocated half -court basketball court would not be as close to a
street and it would be staff's recommendation to not add lighting to the court now or
in the future.
It is still staff's recommendation to replace the ballfield backstop and upgrade the
ballfield with bases, benches, minimal grading and install a permanent pitching plate
and home plate. This upgrade would create a safer and more attractive ballfield for
children.
There will not be adequate Park Referendum funding available to install a park
identification sign. If funding does become available in the future, the sign would be
located in the most southwest corner of the park at the intersection of roads (as
suggested by a resident neighbor - good suggestion!).
,-he remaining park improvements all seemed to have majority support, which
includes:
• widen and improve asphalt pathway (6' wide path).
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• Complete pathway to and beyond the walking bridge.
Replace worn walking bridge.
Add two new park benches.
• Replace drinking fountain with handicap accessible drinking fountain.
It is staff's recommendation that the Park Board approve the revised master plan for
park improvements to Heights Park as listed above.
WALNUT RIDGE PARK MASTER PLAN
On April 15, 1997, staff mailed a letter (copy enclosed) and proposed park
improvement master plan map to approximately 220 area residents of Walnut Ridge
Park. The current proposed park improvements for Walnut Ridge Park include:
• Park shelter building with restroom facilities.
• Relocating the outdoor hockey rink boards and fencing.
• New tot lot (replacement of all old playground equipment).
• Replacement of the walking bridge.
The proposed future park improvements include:.
• Park identification sign.
• Future addition of a basketball court.
• Asphalt surface within the hockey rink.
Based on the letters of response and some phone calls, the proposed current park
improvements appear to meet the approval of the majority. The future addition of an
asphalt surface within the hockey rink is the most controversial issue proposed.
There are some residents who feel strongly in favor while others strongly oppose the
amenity. There currently are not adequate funds available to place a hard surface
area within the hockey rink.
I did not receive much feedback regarding the proposed future basketball court,
however, no one seemed to be strongly opposed to the proposal. Currently there is
a basketball standard, backboard and hoop placed at the edge of the existing parking
lot. Even a half -court set up would be a better scenario than utilizing the parking lot
for a basketball court. The hard surface area in the hockey rink and the future
basketball court were proposed mainly to solicit input from the neighborhood on
other good uses for their neighborhood park.
All other proposed park improvements appear to have the support of the majority.
Therefore, staff recommends that the Park Board approve the park improvement
master plan proposed for Walnut Ridge Park as shown above. Park Board action is
requested on this matter.
'SARK REFERENDUM UPDATE
,Staff will have a brief verbal update on Park Referendum projects.
EDINA PARK BOARD
7:30 p.m.
April 8, 1997
MEMBERS PRESENT: Beth Hall, Dave Crowther, Andy Herring, Becky Bennett, Michael
Burley, John Dovolis, Bill Jenkins, Phyllis Kohler, Andrew
Montgomery, Jean Rydell
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jim Fee
STAFF PRESENT: John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Janet Canton
OTHERS PRESENT: Ed Noonan, Pete Anderson, Jon Edwards, Melissa Boughton, Kip
Lundquist, Mark Anderson, Becky Pohlad, Kathy Haymaker, Patsy
Clouser, Bob Pohlad, Jeff Stefani, Jim Donohue, Jeff Knapp
I. APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 11, 1997 PARK BOARD MINUTES
John Dovolis MOVED TO APPROVE THE MARCH 11, 1997 PARK BOARD
MINUTES. Jean Rydell MOVED TO SECOND THE MOTION. MINUTES
APPROVED.
H. BANGU SOCCER CLUB PROPOSAL
Mr. Keprios indicated there is a correction that needs to be made on his staff report. He
noted that Melissa Boughton's and David Kerr's soccer titles were inadvertently reversed.
Melissa Boughton is President of Edina Soccer Club and David Kerr is President of the
Edina Soccer Association.
Mr. Keprios explained that the Bangu Soccer Club is an organization that has existed for
some time. However, they are now at a point in time where the Edina Soccer Association
has done such a good a job promoting their sport and that they now have approximately
2,600 kids participating in their programs. Mr. Keprios explained that the Park Board has
an unwritten rule where they typically recognize one athletic association per group. If
they divide out and become a separate entity as far as traveling that is also recognized.
However, what hasn't been recognized are other conflicting organizations that might form
off on their own because they don't like the existing association for one reason or another.
Mr. Keprios pointed out that staff assists with scheduling and providing facilities. Staff
manages at an arms length, however, the associations are independently incorporated and
are recognized as the one sport in town.
Mr. Keprios indicated that they do not have the luxury, however, of having enough field
space for everyone. Therefore, they have to go back to the basic philosophy of who gets
served first. Mr. Keprios commented that the two recognized soccer programs in Edina
are the Edina Soccer Association (house league) and the Edina Soccer Club (traveling
league).
Mr. Keprios explained that the school has been providing soccer fields to accommodate
the Bangu Soccer program. Bangu has their own youth program which does include some
Edina residents, as the staff report outlines. Mr. Keprios pointed out that because of the
bond referendum some of the soccer fields are under construction and therefore field time
is tight as well as numbers have gone up. We are not going to have enough fields to
accommodate everyone's wishes and therefore the question comes down to who should
have access to the facilities.
Bob Pohlad, Bangu Soccer Club, indicated they are here to try and secure a soccer field to
play on. He explained that the Bangu Club was formed in 1988 and they have been using
Edina fields since that time. Mr. Pohlad indicated that their Bangu team has a roster of 15
kids in which 7 of them are Edina residents. He commented that their point is they have
no issue with nor do they see themselves as competing with the Edina Soccer Association
or the Edina Soccer Club. He also noted that it is his understanding that the Edina Soccer
Club is like Bangu in that they also do not have 100% Edina residents. Therefore, he feels
they should be treated equally with the Edina Soccer Club and that is their proposal.
Mr. Burley asked if Bangu is just one team and it was noted that it is not one team but
consists of ten teams. However, it is only one team that is looking at using an Edina
soccer field. Ms. Clouser commented that the Bangu team has always played on the high
school field the lower level and didn't think the Edina Soccer Association ever used it.
Jeff Stefani, President Bangu Soccer Club, indicated that the other Bangu teams play and
practice where the majority of their players reside and that is why this particular team has
played in Edina. Mr. Jenkins asked what is the age group they are talking about and it
was noted they are 13 year-old boys.
Mr. Burley asked why don't these kids play for the Edina Soccer Club. Ms. Clouser
responded that several of their players would like to play Division 1 and did not make the
Division 1 team. Mr. Burley asked if the kids tried out for these teams and did not make
them. Mr. Stefani replied that kids move from team to team and commented that two kids
just left his team to play with the Edina Soccer Club neither of which were Edina
residents. He pointed out that there are different philosophies in the program and some
people feel more comfortable with one program versus another. The fact that there are
multiple programs actually provides more opportunities for kids to play, not fewer.
Mr. Jenkins asked if the construction problem were not going on this year would they be
accommodated on our fields this year. Mr. Keprios indicated that once the Edina Soccer
Association and the Edina Soccer Club have both their games and practices whatever is
left over is open for rental. Mr. Keprios commented that Bangu has been using the high
school field and does not know if they have been charged or not for it. The City views
Bangu as another group who wants to utilize Edina fields. Mr. Montgomery asked if we
will be utilizing those fields this year. Mr. MacHolda indicated that he cannot answer that
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because he has not seen the number of teams for either house or traveling soccer.
However, at this time he can see us needing to use everything.
Mr. MacHolda indicated that all of the school soccer fields have been permitted to Park
and Recreation because Braemar is under renovation this year. It's a combination of the
numbers being up and the renovations that are being done we need all of the fields for our
programs.
Mr. Keprios indicated that the school and the city have a successful cooperative
agreement that includes use of indoor gym time as well as outdoor field space at no extra
charge except when overtime occurs. That has been the Edina School's priority list of
distribution goes:
1. All school programs.
2. All Park and Recreation Department programs.
3. Others. (which is where Bangu or other outside interest groups fall in line).
Ms. Bennett asked what time in the day is soccer played and Mr. MacHolda replied that it
is an evening program. Ms. Bennett asked if it would be possible to share the fields if it
permits or have Bangu play in the mornings if that would work out. Mr. MacHolda stated
that he would throw that back to the Soccer Club and the Edina Soccer Association to
talk to the coaches and see if that is something that would work. However, he noted that
most coaches use the space in the evening. Also, Mr. MacHolda pointed out that this year
there are some soccer camps and clinics scheduled for this summer during the day.
Mr. Burley asked Mr. MacHolda to explain the resident issue. Mr. MacHolda commented
that 40% of the participants on the ten Bangu teams are Edina residents. The Edina
Soccer Club which has close to 400 participants of which 16 are non-residents. Ms.
Boughton, pointed out that those 16 non-residents are only on Division 1 teams where
there not enough Edina kids to fill the teams. Mr. MacHolda added that appears to be the
norm with MYSA for Division 1 teams.
Mr. Keprios stated that this is not a new issue. The Park Board voted to have a maximum
of 3 non-resident participants per team as long as it did not exclude an Edina resident.
Mr. Pohlad noted that what they would like to have a time on a field on Wednesday nights
and Saturdays mornings, he is only talking about 15 kids.
Mr. Crowther asked Mr. MacHolda would it be that difficult to factor in one additional
team so that Bangu would get the same amount of playing time as any other traveling
team. Not give them an exclusive field but just factor in one more team. Mr. MacHolda
stated that it wouldn't be so difficult what it comes to is the philosophy of the situation.
We have always recognized one athletic association per sport and if we now recognize a
separate association for the same sport it starts a precedent with the other sports such as
hockey, baseball, basketball, etc.
Mr. Keprios indicated that after the scheduling is done they could probably find an hour
here or there to accommodate a team, however, it really comes down whether or not the
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Edina Soccer Club views these as competing programs. The Soccer Club replied that they
do view Bangu as a competing team. Mr. Stefani asked why this is viewed as a negative
thing when Bangu views it as a positive thing because it provides more opportunity for the
residents of' Edina to play soccer. Bangu is not exclusionary in any way, shape or form
they are trying to provide opportunities for more kids to play soccer because the more
clubs there are the more kids can play..
Mr. Keprios explained the reason this issue is before the Park Board is because we as staff
are directed to provide for and recognize only one Edina Soccer program and if there are
fields left after that, then we are more than happy to accommodate those other interest
groups. However, the reason Bangu is here is they want that guarantee up front. Mr.
Keprios stated that what he is suggesting is no, it doesn't work that way, if you allow this
one team to do that then at what point do you stop letting other teams do it.
Mr. Pohlad pointed out that they have been using the high school field for the last 9 years
and asked Mr. Anderson if he doesn't want Bangu to use those fields. Mr. Anderson,
Edina Soccer Club, commented that the field Bangu used in the past was through the
School and not through the City. He also stated that there should only be one association
per sport. He also noted that there is opportunity for Edina residents to play with the
Edina Soccer Club, it's just that they chose not to.
Mr. Dovolis asked for a little history on why Bangu was organized in 1988. Ms. Clouser
indicated that she moved to Edina 6 years ago and they were looking for a strong soccer
program with more than just parent coaches so they sought out Bangu. Mr. Stefani noted
that the way he understands the Bangu history is that it was formed by a group of Edina
and Bloomington residents who weren't part of the Edina or Bloomington program or
didn't make their Division 1 team. They were Division 2 players who wanted to form
their own team and improve through good coaching to create their own program. This is
an offshoot of kids who didn't make a program that was existing so they created a whole
new opportunity. Mr. Stefani stated that he also understands that six years ago Bangu
made a proposal to the Edina Soccer Club to become the Division 1 option and work with
Edina and that was rejected. He commented that it isn't like the two of us haven't tried to
work together in the past but it just happens to be today that they are separate.
Mr. Dovolis indicated that when there are only so many times and fields available it
becomes a hardship. He noted that he can understand Bangu's point in that they have
operated since 1988 with no problems and now with the Park Board referendum and the
program growing rapidly there is field shortage and not everyone can be accommodated.
Mr. Burley stated that his kids have participated in soccer and to him it seems like Bangu
and the Soccer Association are like oil and water. In 1988 when Bangu was formed it was
considered to be an elite group.
Mr. Keprios stated that the Park and Recreation Department will be happy to work with
Bangu on whatever fields are left over and Bangu will be treated no different than any
other outside organization buying for field space. Mr. Keprios pointed out they have
turned away adult teams which have 100% Edina residents because we simply do not have
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the space for them. He again explained that the City has not provided a field for Bangu
for the last nine years, but the school has.
Mr. Noonan, vice-president of the Edina Soccer Association, commented there are just
over 2,200 kids this year registered to play house league soccer. Their philosophy has
always been every child who wants to play can play. He noted there are a little over 80
teams right now. Mr. Noonan pointed out that they have been discouraging practices at
theU6 and U8 levels, which take up 50 to 60 of those teams, because of field space
availability and time commitment. Mr. Noonan noted that they would like to offer the
staff and Park Board anything they can do to accommodate the situation. Mr. Noonan
explained that the Soccer Association pay their fees as required by the Park Board as well
as they give back to the community by improving fields, etc.
Mr. Knapp, indicated that practice times are very important for the teams, however, right
now almost all of the field time will be occupied with just games. Mr. Knapp stated that
the program is growing and more kids are staying with soccer and therefore the situation
is going to get worse before it gets better.
Ms. Boughton indicated that she would love to have the Edina Soccer Club work with
Bangu. She stated that she doesn't know what happened in the past and she really doesn't
care. Ms. Bougton noted that she thinks there is a unified front both groups can go to.
Mr. Herring stated that he is a little concerned in that for years Bangu has played on this
particular field and because of construction there suddenly is no space for them. He noted
that he would be inclined to seek some kind of accommodation for Bangu this year but
have it be clear that they will not get this kind of priority and they will have to figure out
how they are going to find field space. This will give them a year to figure out other
arrangements. He is just concerned that they are going to be left high and dry at the last
minute.
Mr. Keprios asked the Edina Soccer Association and the Edina Soccer Club how they feel
about making some concessions to accommodate Bangu for one year. Mr. Noonan
replied that the Edina Soccer Association will work with staff. Mr. Lundquist indicated
that he has been associated with the Edina Soccer Association and Traveling Soccer for
over 10 years and feels this isn't a last minute change and he wouldn't feel comfortable
with this because they have never been accommodated by the Park Board.
Mr. Pohlad indicated that he made a few phone calls after Mr. MacHolda informed them
of the situation. He noted that if he would have known this and made those phone calls in
December he probably could have found field space somewhere else.
Mr. Dovolis noted that it seems to him that it would solve a big problem they can bridge
the program back together. Mr. Keprios suggested the option of accommodating Bangu
for one final year with the understanding that at the end of the season they either disband
and those kids become part of the Edina Soccer program or they don't come back to this
group again requesting field space. Mr. Herring commented that he is against that and
feels we have to go with the recognized association, his only question is does it make
sense to accommodate Bangu for one year.
Mr. Keprios commented that he's not against accommodating Bangu for one year as long
as the Edina Soccer Association and the Edina Soccer Club are okay with it. Ms.
Boughton commented that her only concern is that the Edina Soccer Club and the Edina
Soccer Association are taken care of because they have worked hard to upgrade the
program. Mr. Keprios asked if it is too late to accommodate the seven kids from the
Bangu program into the Edina Soccer Club and it was noted yes because they have
already had their tryouts.
Mr. Herring MOVED THAT WE SEEK TO ACCOMMODATE ONE TEAM FROM
THE BANGU CLUB THIS YEAR AND ACCOMMODATE THEM ON THE SAME
BASIS THAT WE TREAT OUR OTHER EDINA TEAMS RECOGNIZING THE
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE EXTREMELY LIMITED NUMBER OF
FIELDS THIS YEAR BECAUSE SOME ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON
RELATIVELY SHORT NOTICE THAT THEY RECEIVED AS TO THE FACT THAT
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A FIELD THIS YEAR, A LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF
FIELDS IF ANY AND THAT WE FURTHER PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT ON A
GOING FORWARD BASIS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ACCOMMODATING ANY
THIRD PARTY THAT WANTS TO USE ANY OF THE EDINA FIELDS UNLESS
THE SOCCER ASSOCIATION WOULD BE GIVEN PRIORITY.
John Dovolis SECONDED THE MOTION.
IN FAVOR OF ACCOMMODATING BANGU FOR ONE YEAR: Becky Bennett,
Andy Herring, John Dovolis, Andrew Montgomery.
OPPOSSED TO ACCOMMODATING BANGU FOR ONE YEAR: Jean Rydell, Beth
Hall, Bill Jenkins, Phyllis Kohler, Dave Crowther, Mike Burley
MOTION FAILED 4 TO 6.
It was noted that if there is any time left over Bangu will be accommodated.
III. EDINA BASEBALL ASSOCIATION PROPOSAL
Mr. Keprios indicated that there are some scoreboards at Courtney fields that need to be
replaced, which right now would be the best time to do it because of the construction,
however, we do not have the money to do it. Mr. Keprios stated that the Baseball
Association does have the funding to do this, however, their proposed means of funding is
through advertising which goes against the grain of the standing policy, which is what
brings them here tonight. Mr. Keprios commented that isn't to say that we can't look at a
plan that replaces the scoreboards through another means. He noted that we need to see
how we do with the referendum spending. Mr. Keprios pointed out that this is one small
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piece of a very large 39 park puzzle and we are going to hear a lot more of these types of
additional requests and there isn't enough money to do everything.
Mr. Keprios stated that the Baseball Association has admirably given their share of money
in helping out with fields, lights, dugouts, etc.
Mr. Edwards, President of the Edina Baseball Board, indicated that the scoreboards are
quite old and now would be the one time opportunity to run the new line out and put in
the new scoreboard because of the construction that will be going on. He also pointed out
that in the same opportunity they will be able to put a jack in at every dugout and this way
everyone can enjoy the scoreboards.
Mr. Edwards handed out pictures of the scoreboard advertising they are looking at and
noted that their first choice would be to solicit from the local businesses in Edina. Mr.
Edwards explained the scoreboard company they are looking at is in Plymouth and 80% of
the scoreboards being installed are corporate funded as part of the package. Mr. Edwards
indicated that the Baseball Association has already helped to improve the parks by adding
batting cages and other items that will help the kids. He pointed out that the advertising
they are talking about is only 2 ft. by 4 ft. This scoreboard would greatly improve the
field quality at Braemar Park.
Mr. Burley asked if he understood correctly in that there is a policy in Edina that we do
not allow advertising. Mr. Keprios responded that it is a fairly new policy set by the City
Council. The only advertising that is allowed is what we call rolling stock, via pamphlets,
brochures, Zamboni, etc. Mr. Keprios indicated, however, the Park Board can certainly
make a recommendation to the City Council for a change in policy.
Ms. Kohler asked Mr. Edwards if they have looked at private funds from the Rotary,
Lions, Kiwanis, Federated Womens Club, Edina Foundation, etc. She suggested it might
be a good idea to check with these people first because this proposed form of advertising
is probably something that we don't want to get into. Ms. Kohler stated that there are
other sources of funding if organizations are willing to take the time to ask for it. Ms.
Kohler questioned if we should be involved in this and asked Mr. Edwards if he has been
to the High School Boosters. Mr. Montgomery indicated that this is something that needs
to be done now since we are doing everything else at the ball fields.
It was asked if the staff believes the scoreboards need to be replaced and Mr. Keprios
replied absolutely, however, there are no funds to do it at this time.
Mr. Edwards commented there are a lot of businesses in Edina that would jump at an
opportunity like this and it would be a good way to advertise. He noted that he feels
confident that the scoreboards, estimated at $12,000, can be paid for by private
businesses. The Baseball Association is a non-profit organization and we don't have
hundreds of dollars to go out and solicit private funds. Also, time is not on our side
because once those fields are dug up, we have to get the electrical and conduit in.
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Mr. Burley commented that he happens to be a proponent of advertising at baseball fields
and he would like to see that the Baseball Association somehow get the $12,000. Mr.
Burley asked if there are still team sponsors and Mr. Edwards replied they do still have
team sponsors, however, that helps to offset the cost to keep the fees down.
Mr. Crowther pointed out that previous City Council did not want advertising at the
facilities, therefore, it seems somewhat of a waste of the Park Board's time to discuss this
if the new City Council indicates that is not the policy of the City. Mr. Crowther stated
that he would like to see Mr. Keprios go to the City Council and ask them if they want to
change their position on this issue before we spend a lot of time deciding whether or not
we think it's a good idea just to have them turn it down.
Ms. Bennett asked Mr. Edwards if there is anyone on the baseball board who could make
a few phone calls to the Rotary or Kiwanis, etc., just to get some feel. She indicated that
she recently raised $6,000 for the Creek Valley Carnival through donations and it wasn't
that hard. Mr. Edwards replied they do not have anyone who could do that right now.
Mr. Montgomery noted that he hears Mr. Crowther very clear in that if they are not going
to change the policy then the scoreboard goes in without advertising.
Mr. Herring MOVED THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE
CONTINUE THE EXISTING POLICY WITH RESPECT TO ADVERTISING. Beth
Hall SECONDED THE MOTION.
Mr. Dovolis indicated that number one we have a need for a scoreboard that's a separate
issue. Mr. Jenkins indicated we will get them a scoreboard but he doesn't think we are
going to change the advertising policy.
Mr. Burley indicated that he disagrees with that, he thinks with baseball fields you need to
be creative and have a lot of fun with advertising and we could generate a lot of money.
This is not just for today but ten years from now there are going to be scoreboards that
are going to fall apart and we are going to need to generate money and we are not going
to have a bond referendum every ten years. Mr. Burley stated that he is not proposing to
change anyone's mind but he just disagrees with it. He thinks baseball fields and hockey
rinks should have advertising, and it will not ruin the aesthetics of the community park.
Mr. Dovolis pointed out that the facts today are the way money is generated is through
advertising. We cannot go to the taxpayer every time we need something or hit the
developer's fund. However, he does agree with Mr. Keprios in that he doesn't believe in
advertising but the facts are that is how dollars are generated.
ALL IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THE CURRENT POLICY OF ADVERTISING:
Beth Hall, Dave Crowther, Andy Herring, Becky Bennett, Bill Jenkins, Phyllis Kohler,
Andrew Montgomery, Jean Rydell
ALL OPPOSED IN SUPPORTING THE CURRENT POLICY OF ADVERTISING:
John Dovolis, Mike Burley
MOTION CARRIED 8 TO 2.
Ms. Bennett indicated that if someone gave her a list of people to contact she would make
some phone calls. Mr. Dovolis and Mr. Burley both stated that they would each donate
$500.00 for a new scoreboard.
Ms. Kohler suggested contacting the Edina High School Boosters. Mr. Dovolis suggested
putting an article in the Edina Sun Newspaper.
Mr. Montgomery stated that he is still concerned that when we tear up that whole ball
park are we going to provide the conduit for a new scoreboard. Mr. Keprios indicated
that he will make sure that is taken care of.
Mr. Keprios indicated that the Park and Recreation Department has not asked the School
District to help with any Park Referendum Projects mainly because the money has only
gone one way in the past, from the City to the School. He explained that in some respect
that's the right thing because there are tax increment dollars that should go towards the
school. Even the youth athletic associations have also contributed significant dollars to
the schools. Therefore, Ms. Kohler's suggestion to contact the High School or Booster
Club is an excellent idea. Mr. Crowther indicated that he will go to the Booster Board.
Mr. Keprios indicated that they will work with the Edina Baseball Association and will try
to come up with a way to fund a new scoreboard.
IV. PARKS REFERENDUM PROJECTS UPDATE
Mr. Keprios stated that the City Council approved the $225,000 bid to go ahead with
Arrigoni Construction Company to develop the Lake Cornelia Park playground. Again,
an enormous thanks to the Federated Womens Club for their $16,000 donation this go
around and for over $50,000 in the history of that park which came from that
organization. Mr. Keprios indicated that they are going to find a plaque to give them the
due recognition that they deserve.
Mr. Keprios indicated that the park fencing bid has been approved for the backstop at
Birchcrest, Chowen and Countryside.
Mr. Keprios stated that they are down to one shelter building plan for all four sites.
V. OTHER
A. Community Development Grant Money - Mr. Keprios pointed out that the City of
Edina has really been blessed with the over 1 million dollars worth of community
development block grant money through the years. They have provided us a lot of
removal of accessible barriers which gave us the elevator at the Senior Center, a lot of
curb cuts throughout the city and the renovating of a lot of our restrooms. They have also
given us a tremendous number of handicap parking stalls and parking lots. However, the
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rules have now changed the money is all dried up and therefore all that we have requested
this year, unless it has to do with housing, we are now on our own as far as removing
accessible barriers. Mr. Keprios indicated that his idea of making the bathrooms at Lewis
Park accessible through CDBG money is not going to happen. Mr. Herring asked how
much is that going to cost and Mr. Keprios indicated that he has an architect working on it
right now. He indicated that he hopes to have the facts and figures for this project at the
next Park Board meeting.
B. Braemar Inspection Tour - Mr. Keprios indicated that the Braemar Inspection Tour is
scheduled for Tuesday, July 8t` at 1:00 p.m. and there will not be a Park Board meeting
that night unless someone feels there is a need to.
C. All Volunteers Awards Reception - Mr. Keprios indicated that the All Volunteers
Awards Reception will be on Tuesday, April 15`x' 5:00 p.m. at Edinborough. The Park
and Recreation Accommodation from the Mayor for the All Volunteer Awards is going to
be awarded to the Ben Peyton Committee.
Mr. Dovolis commented that August 20t` is the Ben Peyton Golf Tournament at Braemar,
$100.00 per person, golf, cart, and barbecue meal and it will be a shotgun start.
D. Basketball Hoops - Mr. Keprios commented that all of our basketball hoops are now
up on the new backboards.
E. Sprite Clean -Up - Mr. Keprios indicated that "Spring Clean-up" has been delayed
because of the weather. Also, the Adopt -A -Park signs will be going up this week.
F. Utley Park - Ms. Bennett asked what the status is at Ultey Park. Mr. Keprios
commented that the Mayor has some concerns with where we are looking at putting the
basketball court. Therefore, they will be taking a visit there and see if there is another
option.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Dave Crowther MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9:15 P.M. John Dovolis
SECONDED THE MOTION. MEETING ADJOURNED.
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Dear Resident Neighbor of Heights Park:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input on the
proposed master plan for park improvements to Heights Park. The enclosed map shows the
proposed park improvements, which include:
• Relocation of the half -court basketball court (build a new half -court with one basketball
standard).
• Widen and improve asphalt pathway (6 foot wide path).
• Complete pathway to and beyond the walking bridge.
• Replace worn walking bridge.
• Add two new park benches.
• Replace drinking fountain with handicap accessible drinking fountain.
• Replace ball field backstop.
• Remove old hard surface areas and replace with sod.
• Add a park identification sign, "HEIGHTS PARK."
i"here is current funding available through the Park Referendum to make all of the above
improvements with the exception of the park identification sign. We hope to secure additional
funding to add park identification signs throughout the park system within the next two years.
If you would like to share your views on the proposed park improvements, I urge you to write
to me at the return address on this stationary. Your input is valuable. This master plan and
your comments (letters) will be presented to the Edina Park Board for their discussion at their
May meeting scheduled for:
Tuesday, May 13, 1997
7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
Edina City Hall
If you have any questions, feel free to call the Edina Park and Recreation Department office at
927-8861. Thank you in advance for your input and concern.
Sin ely,
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City of Edina
Dear Resident Neighbor of Walnut Ridge Park:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department is seeking your input on the
proposed master plan for park improvements to Walnut Ridge Park. The enclosed maps show
the proposed park improvements, which include:
PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED THIS YEAR
• Park shelter building with restroom facilities.
• Relocating the outdoor hockey rink boards and fencing.
• New tot lot (replacement of all old playground equipment).
• Replacement of the walking bridge.
PROPOSED FOR FUTURE PARK IMPROVEMENTS
• Park identification sign.
• Future addition of a basketball court.
• Asphalt surface within the hockey rink.
,'here are currently not adequate funds available for providing a park identification sign,
basketball court and hard surface inside the hockey rink. We are, however, seeking your input
on all of the above proposals. This year's developments will be paid by the proceeds from the
Parks Referendum Fund, which was approved by voters on May 7, 1996.
The replacement playground equipment is proposed to be placed in the same location as the
existing equipment and will not require removal of any trees. The border surrounding the
playground equipment will be much like a concrete sidewalk, as opposed to a concrete curb.
The sidewalk border design will allow for easier access and maintenance.
The new park shelter building will have restrooms accessible from the outside. This new park
shelter building will be used in the winter months as a warming house for outdoor skating
activities, including hockey. It will also be used in the summer months for children's
playground programs. The restrooms will be accessible from the outside and will be open to
the public during daylight hours year around. The doors will automatically be locked at night.
I wish to extend a special thanks to Walnut Ridge Park neighbor residents Mr. Jeff Arnold and
Mr. Andrew Montgomery, Park Board Chairman, who both served on the 10 member Citizen
Input Committee that met several times, including field trips to neighboring communities, to
establish a common shelter building design.
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City Hall (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 927-7645
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 927-5461
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The park shelter building design and site location is the result of several hours of committee
research and discussion. The final result is an aesthetically pleasing design that will
successfully serve the needs of Edina residents today and well into the next century.
If you would like to share your views on the proposed park improvements, I —ge you to write
to me at the return address on this stationary. Your input is valuable. This master plan and
your comments (letters) will be presented tot he Edina Park Board for their discussion at their
May meeting scheduled for :
Tuesday, May 13, 1997
7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
Edina City Hall
As always, this meeting is open to the public and you are welcome to attend.
If you have any questions, feel free to call the Edina Park and Recreation Department office at
927-8861. Thank you in advance for your input and concern.
Sin ely,
J n 2prio ,Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
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April 2, 1997 City of Edina
Dear Resident Neighbor of Todd Park:
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department is seeking your input on the
proposed master plan for park improvements to Todd Park. The enclosed map shows the
proposed park improvements, which include:
• Park shelter building with restroom facilities.
• Outdoor hockey rink boards and fencing.
• New tot lot (replacement playground equipment).
• 11 stall parking lot.
• Future pathway around the park.
The new park shelter building would replace the existing worn picnic shelter. This new park
shelter building would be used in the winter months as a warming house for outdoor skating
activities, including hockey. It would also be used in the summer months for children's
playground programs. The restrooms would be accessible from the outside and would be open
the public during daylight hours year around. The doors will automatically be locked at
„Ight. The new playground equipment would be designed to serve children ages 1-9.
There is current funding available through the Park Referendum to build a park shelter building,
playground equipment and hockey rink. If the neighborhood prefers, a parking lot and pathway
system could be added in the future.
If you would like to share your views on the proposed park improvements, I urge you to write
to me and/or attend the Todd Park neighborhood input meeting scheduled for:
Thursday, April 17, 1997
7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
Edina City Hall
If you have any questions, feel free to call the Edina Park and Recreation Department office at
927-8861. Many thanks.
Singely,
JohnKeprio�Director
'ina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 927-7645
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Dear Resident Neighbor of Heights Park:
City of Edina
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input on the
proposed master plan for park improvements to Heights Park. The enclosed map shows the
proposed park improvements, which include:
• Relocation of the half -court basketball court (build a new half -court with one basketball
standard).
• Widen and improve asphalt pathway (6 foot wide path).
• Cumplete pathway to and beyond the walking bridge.
• Replace worn walking bridge.
• Add two new park benches.
• Replace drinking fountain with handicap accessible drinking fountain.
• Replace ball field backstop.
• Remove old hard surface areas and replace with sod.
• Add a park identification sign, "HEIGHTS PARK."
here is current funding available through the Park Referendum to make all of the above
improvements with the exception of the park identification sign. We hope to secure additional
funding to add park identification signs throughout the park system within the next two years.
If you would like to share your views on the proposed park improvements, I urge you to write
to me at the return address on this stationary. Your input is valuable. This master plan and
your comments (letters) will be presented to the Edina Park Board for their discussion at their
May meeting scheduled for:
Tuesday, May 13, 1997
7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
Edina City Hall
If you have any questions, feel free to call the Edina Park and Recreation Department office at
927-8861. Thank you in advance for your input and concern. . f,
Sc-erely,
John Keprps, Director
dina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394
(612) 927-8861
FAX (612) 927-7645
TDD (612) 927-5461
Att. John Keprios, Director
Edina lark & Recreation Dept.
Dear John and Park Board ""embers:
'�,'e received the letter regarding improvement plans for Heights Park.
The elan looks good and long overdue with one change. '.Ye do not
approve of the location of the basketball 1_ court in the new
location. It is too close to the street. The current location is
a much safer location. This is a very busy intersection with many
people running the stop sign and speeding..
We would like to propose an ice skating-_ rink for winter use in the
low center area. It was there for many years and was heavily used
by young, neighborhood children & families. This area contains
many young families once again and we think would be once again an
asset to the park and neighborhood.
Thank You for :resenting us with the information and letting us
share our views.
Sincerely,
April 18, 1997
These are all great ideas for the improvement of the park. I have an additional one, not
mentioned on your list. It would be nice to have some lights added to the area, increasing
the safety and overall appearance of the park at night. I look forward to these
improvements being implemented.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,,
April 16, 1997
Dear Resident Neighbor of Heights Park:
City of Edina
The Edina Park Board and Edina Park and Recreation Department are seeking your input on the
proposed master plan for park improvements to Heights Park. The enclosed map shows the
proposed park improvements, which include:
• Relocation of the half -court basketball court (build a new half -court with one basketball
standard).
• Widen and improve asphalt pathway (6 foot wide path).
• Complete pathway to and beyond the walking bridge.
• Replace worn walking bridge.
• Add two new park benches.
• Replace drinking fountain with handicap accessible drinking fountain.
• Replace ball field backstop.
• Remove old hard surface areas and replace with sod.
• Add a park identification sign, "HEIGHTS PARK."
There is current funding available through the Park Referendum to make all of the above
improvements with the exception of the park identification sign. We hope to secure additional
funding to add park identification signs throughout the park system within the next two years.
If you would like to share your views on the proposed park improvements, I urge you to write
to me at the return address on this stationary. Your input is valuable. This master plan and
your comments (letters) will be presented to the Edina Park Board for their discussion at their
May meeting scheduled for:14 '� 5 r 1 v�
Tuesday, May 13, 1997 . �v
7:30 p.m.
Council Chambers
Edina City Hall
If you have any questions, feel free to call the Edina Park and Recreatio Department office at
927-8861. Thank you in advance for your input and concern.
Si�e{ely,
J6hn Keprpl, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 W 50`x' St.
Edina, MN 55424-1394
April 1-7, 1997
RE: PROPOSED HEIGHTS PARK IMPROVEMENTS
Dear Mr. Keprios,
Thank you for your letter of April Wh inviting comments by residents on the proposed
improvements to Heights Park. I appreciate your commitment to neighborhood input since
the neighbors are the ones who use the park.
My family is fully supportive of all the improvements listed in your letter. Together, they
will make the park more useful and more pleasant to be in. We particularly like the idea of
moving the basketball court to the southwest corner of the park. It's current location is
too isolated.
We do have a few additional suggestions which we would like the Park Board to consider:
Add bases to the ball field. Pick distances between bases that are a good
compromise for the age groups which use the park.
2. Remove the drainage opening in the center of the ball field. Currently, it is a hazard
because feet can be caught when chasing after balls.
3. Improve the drainage around home plate. Currently, drainage is so poor, the home
plate area is unusable for 12-24 hours after a rain storm.
4. Move the second proposed bench over to the play area. One bench for the play
area is not enough.
Move the drinking fountain to the play area. This is not essential, but would be an
improvement.
Thank you for considering these suggestions. All of us in the Heights Neighborhood look
forward to enjoying our new park this fall.
April 28, 1997
Mr. John Keprios
Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424
Dear Mr Keprios:
In reference to your letter from the Edina Park and
Recreation Department to the Heights neighborhood:
(1) We would find it beneficial to reinstate the ice
rink that was here when we relocated to this area in 1970.
The children used it constantly for good clean fun and adults
skated at times, also. The rink was lighted and had a warming
house but perhaps that is beyond the financial scope.
(2) A basketball court ----according to your map is to be
built near the SW corner of the park. We are concerned that
the neighbors who live close to the site will be disturbed by
the noise and, as we understand it, the lights that will
accompany it and therefore the court in this location would
detract from the aesthetics of the park. It should be
possible to move the basketball court to some place that is
less intrusive and still maintain the park atmosphere.
Thank you.
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To: John Yeprios, Director
Suggest more benches around play area, near the back stop & basketball
court. They will be used by the participants & parents, otherwise there
is no place to drop their jackets, gear but in the dirt.
.11 children will be accompanied by adults who will need places to
sit while watching over their children.
Suggest the Park identification sign be installed at the corner of
Hillside Court 1 W. 66th St. Would be much better visibility.
Picnic benches?
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Re: Heights Park Improvements
Dear Mr. Keprios:
Thank you for your letter of April16th informing our neighborhood of possible changes at Heights
Park. All of these changes sound very appropriate, and are much needed. I am of course
writing with an additional suggestion. 1. The path from Creek Drive that leads to the walking
bridge is also in need of repair. At the very least, the overgrowth of bushes and weeds that are
growing through the fence need to be addressed. 2. It is my strong wish that the current
basketball hoop remain, and it's area be resurfaced. This would not be in lieu of the area you
are planning near the playground but in addition to. The area is already there and the hoop
already standing - it would only offer another spot for the kids to "shoot some hoops" should the
other area be in use for organized play. It seems more costly to remove it and replace with sod,
than to resurface and replace the net. There would certainly be more than enough grassy area
left to play on were this to remain. My children use this area often, and I enjoy it being close
enough for me to keep my eye on them. I hope you will consider this as an alternative. It seems
that it might enhance an overall wonderful plan. Thank you for your time.
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April 8, 1997
Mr. John Keprios, Director
Edina Park & Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios:
As 20 year residents of the Todd Park area, we have long observed the activities (or lack of)
that have taken place in the park. While we are proud of Edina's student athletic program and are
supportive of providing the necessary facilities, we are not convinced that the plan you have pro-
posed is right for this area.
First of all, has an age study been done of the area? It appears that there is an extremely
large number of seniors (55+) living close by. The Brookside Court Apartments (consisting of most-
ly seniors) connects to the park and there are many smaller homes nearby where one or two senior
reside. Why not consider their needs and make your first priority a walking path, and create a pic-
nic/cookout area to the South of the tennis courts. This would provide a lovely park where seniors
could escape from their small domiciles, get some exercise and have family gatherings.
Todd Park is probably the most unused park in Edina. Although there is a lighted ice rink, it
is almost never used. At one time softball teams played there in the summer, but even that has
dwindled. Maybe the location has something to do with it. Being at the far North end of Edina, it
might not be centrally located enough for many of the young people. Or, maybe interest has less-
ened in outdoor types of activities. Whatever the reason, most of what we see down there now is
geese and neighbors walking their dogs. The money for a warming house might be better spent in
another area of Edina that gets more use. At any rate, it certainly shouldn't be the first priority for
Todd Park.
This park could be a wonderful area for all ages, but seniors would probably stay away if it
was designed strictly for youths. The changes we would recommend are:
1. Make the walking path and a picnic area with tables your first priority.
2. Have the walking path go around (to the West of) or through the wooded area.
3. Move the tot lot over by the picnic area (to the East side) so children could have
adult supervision during family gatherings.
Thank you for considering our suggestions. We hope you come up with a plan that is bene-
ficial to all ages.
April 7, 197
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios,
Thank you for mailing the letter and plan regarding the improvements to
Todd Park, all of which I support and which would benefit and improve
this part of Edina, in my opinion.
As a senior, I particularly favor a pathway around the park, particularly
if it is kept open and maintained year round, and access to it from
Brookside Court which includes 4 buildings would be most beneficial.
(Although I'm sure all residents nearby would enjoy a pathway.)
During the winter months, it is almost impossible (especially this past
winter) to find anywhere close by for older citizens to walk and get
some exercise out-of-doors. The sidewalks along Brookside Avenue were
useless this winter, covered with ice and snow, and very dangerous if
one attempted to walk in the street; of course, many blocks do not have
sidewalks anyway. Many seniors do not care to drive during the winter
months, or have been forbidden to drive due to eyesight problems, etc.,
so cannot take advantage of mall walking. I am assuming there will be
dual pathways for walkers and bicyclers/skaters as is the case in other
park and lake areas.
Thank you for considering my input.
Sincerely,
April 15, 1997
John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
4801 West 50th Street
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios:
The Board of Directors for 4370 Brookside Court wishes to respond to the letter
of April 2, 1997, which you sent to the resident neighbors of Todd Park. We
support the proposed park improvements and look forward to even greater
enjoyment of the park facilities. However, we have a concern which was not
addressed in the letter. It is possible that you are unaware of this problem; we
wish to bring it to your attention.
Along the south side of our building, in the area adjoining Todd Park, there is a
problem with standing water whenever there is a heavy rain or snow melt. This
problem needs to be addressed for two reasons. When there is standing water, it
significantly reduces the amount of Iand available for use and enjoyment.
Another more serious concern is that this standing water could provide breeding
ground for mosquitoes. This, of course, would negatively impact everyone's
enjoyment and use of the park.
This problem would be alleviated if there were drain tile installed from the
roadway all along the south side of our building, or if the area were graded and
filled properly. It seems reasonable that the best time to complete this aspect of
park improvements would be at the beginning of the project.
If you have any questions, or need additional information, please feel free to
contact me at Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
Sincerely,
February 24, 1997
Mr. Keprios
Parks & Recreation Department
4801 W. 50th Street
Edina, Minnesota 55424
February 24, 1997
Dear Mr. Keprios,
We have spoken with you several times over the telephone about
improvements to Todd Park and you have been kind enough to give us
your time to discuss our concerns. As Spring approaches, discussions
about renovations at the park are popping up routinely around our
neighborhood.
While there will always be some differences about what is most
desirable for an area park, there is a consensus among neighbors on
one issue: We believe that we are entitled to a hearing on the proposed
design for the park before any commitments are made to contractors and
before any ground is broken. We don't feel confident that this is going to
happen.
In your letter (addressed to responding to our
neighborhood group's concerns, you expressed a desire to see
signatures from individuals in attendance at the meeting we held on park
development issues. We just didn't have the foresight to do that when we
met. But we are, I assure you, a large group of concerned neighbors. I
speak for many when I say that all we ask at this juncture is that you call a
meeting to share the options with us and consider our input.
We can be reached at our business phone number which is
Sincerely,
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Dear Mr. Keprios: -
! was very excited to get -the- information regarding the proposed improvements to Todd
Park. We live approximately -4 blocks to the west and have 4 children ages
16,13,10,and 6.
The proposecf improvements Sound appropriate and of the type that will be used by.
the neighborhood. From your Jetter, I could not tell if you are adding a regular ice rink,
as well as a hockey rink. If not, l would like to suggest that a regular ice rink be added
in addition to the hockey rink. It is not safe to skate on an ice rink while others are
playing hockey, the addition -of a regular rink would add minimal expense because the
warming shelter and flooding system would be in place, and I think it would be used
alot by the young children in the -area.
There is a fair amount- of street parking available around the park. The addition of the
proposed parking lot would detract from the limited "green" area in the southwest
corner of the park. If possible, I would suggest trying to do without the parking area.
am in favor of the pathway system I think this would be well utilized.
The improvements in the Edina_` Parks are excitingl Thank you for all your effort
April 24, 1997
Mr. John Keprios
Director, Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 West 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios,
My son and I visit Walnut Ridge Park at least one time a day in nice weather, so I read with
interest your letter about the proposed improvements. I am most concerned with the
improvements to the tot park, because that is the area that we use most often.
Since your letter indicates that no trees will be removed when improving the tot park, I assume
that you will keep the size of the existing play area the same. In so doing, your design will have
to efficiently utilize a rather small space compared to some of the larger parks in our area.
We frequent Browndale Park in St. Louis Park (at Browndale and Morningside) because we think
it is an exemplary play space for kids. The play area makes excellent use of a smaller space with
one single large play gym and a separate swingset. I would encourage the Board members who
are responsible for making the final decision on the play equipment for Walnut Ridge to visit
Browndale Park and look carefully at what it offers to children. Browndale has levels and slides
safe for pre -walkers. There are poles and climbing rings for big kids. There is a crawling tube, a
steering wheel, and two bridge -like areas to inspire imaginative play. There is a variety of
climbing pieces from easy to difficult to challenge different abilities. The largest slide is a "slide
winder" which all kids (and moms) love.
When selecting the toddler swing style, I would encourage your Board to choose the bucket style
swing that wraps the child completely in a rubber or plastic seat (like that currently used at
Walnut Ridge). This type of swing is safer for young toddlers and older infants, and seems more
secure than a chain style swing we have seen used at other parks.
Thank you for your consideration of my specific ideas. I will be interested to hear further details
of the improvements at the May 13 meeting.
Sincerely,
April 25, 1997 City Of Edith
Dear Resident Neighbor of Todd Park:
This is a follow-up letter to inform you of the results of the "Todd Park
Neighborhood Meeting," which was held at City Hall on Thursday, April 17, 1997,
and to explain the plan of action and process as to where we go from here.
There were approximately 30 residents who attended the April 17 meeting, which
was very beneficial. After approximately 90 minutes of discussion, it was the
consensus of the neighbors that with the finite amount of money available that the
Todd Park master plan for park improvements should be prioritized as follows:
• New 6' wide bituminous pathway around the park with park benches and trash
receptacles.
• Park shelter building with restroom facilities.
• New tot lot (replacement playground equipment).
• Softball field improvements (backstop repair, bleacher and irrigation).
It was the majority opinion that a parking lot not be added to the park at this time.
The majority opinion suggests that we observe the park's future use and, if
necessary, readdress the parking lot issue in the future.
The majority opinion also suggests that a hockey rink should not be constructed
until additional funds become available in the future. When funding provides, the
hockey rink should also include a hard surface area to accommodate in-line skating
in the summer. The current plan is to maintain a pleasure skating rink for family
skating, as well as, a separate area for children's hockey (with no side boards) this
coming winter season.
The pathway was significantly more important to the neighbors than a hockey
rink. The new proposed asphalt surface pathway will be constructed six feet in
width to safely accommodate walkers, joggers, bicycles and skaters at the same
time.
There were many suggestions for additional park improvements that we will do our
best to attain when resources become available. The community's input is very
valuable in the process of determining a park improvement master plan.
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For example, suggestions were made to add the following park improvements:
• Picnic shelter gazebo.
• Park lighting around the new pathway.
• Updated park regulation signs.
• Picnic tables and cooking grills.
Residents also shared their concern about vandalism, gang activity and
irresponsible dog owners not picking up their dog's feces. For your information,
the City Ordinance concerning dogs in the park mandate that dogs must be on a
leash no longer than ten (10) feet and dog owners must pick up and properly
dispose of their dog's feces. This further means that the dog owner must have in
their possession a means of picking up after their pet. This is becoming a growing
problem and significant issue with residents throughout Edina. We ask that every
dog owner please obey these rules.
I wish to thank Andy Halper for serving on the Park Shelter Building , ask Force
Committee, which was instrumental in establishing a common design for all four
parks that will be getting a park shelter building. I believe that this attractive and
functional building will serve many needs of Todd Park area residents today and
well into the next century.
I also wish to take this opportunity to thank in advance those who are donating
towards the park bench to be installed at Todd Park in loving memory of Danny
Berg, a young resident neighbor of Todd Park who recently passed away after a
courageous battle with cancer.
I wish to thank everyone who took the time to send me correspondence on these
park improvement matters. For the record, the majority of the letters were
consistent with the majority opinion that prevailed at the Neighborhood Meeting.
Therefore, I intend to suggest all of the above recommendations to the Edina Park
Board for their next meeting on Tuesday, May 13, 1997, 7:30 p.m., Council
Room, City Hall.
The Edina Park Board will then discuss the issues and will make their
recommendations to the Edina City Council. The Edina City Council ultimately
makes the final decision on these matters. If you have any questions, feel free to
call me at 927-8861. Many thanks.
Sincerely,
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Jhn4KepriDirector
Edina Park and Recreation Department
RESULTS OF TODD PARK
NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT MEETING
APRIL 17, 1997, 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL
• The proposed parking lot was discussed at length. The majority of
those in attendance agreed that they do not want a parking lot,
especially on the Vandervork side. The reasons stated were that it
would be an invitation for more cars, more congestion, more kids
gathering and drinking, littering, vandalism and the fear of speeding
cars.
• The hockey rink vs. the walking path was discussed at length. The
majority stated that the walking path would be a greater benefit to
the community than would be the hockey rink at this time.
Residents requested that several benches be placed along the new
pathway.
• It was suggested that if and when a permanent hockey rink is
constructed, that it be built with a hard surface area for two main
reasons:
1 . The artesian soils make it difficult to maintain good outdoor ice for
skating.
2. The children should have a hard surface area to use their in-line
skates, roller-skates and skate boards. A comment was made that
children are currently ruining the tennis courts and basketball court
surface with their in-line skates.
• The majority seemed to approve of the proposed shelter building and
its design, as well as, the proposed new playground equipment.
• Residents stated that occasionally, there are people using the
basketball court as a parking lot. Police have been called on
occasion, however, signs are needed.
• Residents expressed their concerns about dogs in the park and the
numerous irresponsible dog owners. More signs were requested.
• There were requests for more trash receptacles and picnic tables.
April 20, 1997
John Kreprios, Director
Edina Park & Recration Dept.
4801 W. 50th St.
Edina, MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Kreprios:
RE: Walnut Ridge Park Improvements proposal
We have and thank you for your letter of April 15th with the proposed improvements for Walnut Ridge
Park. We moved here last year and have two young daughters who ice skate but who do not play
hockey. I have noticed when there is not separate facility for both hockey and free skating, that hockey
dominates the ice space. The proposal describes moving the hockey ice but does not clearly specify an
open skating area. In addition, the old open skating area did not include adequate lighting. I would hope
and expect that this plan includes an ample free skating area adequately lighted for evening enjoyment.
Thank you for your consideration of this concern.
Sincerely,
April 26, 1997
Mr. John Keprios, Director
Edina Park and Recreation Department
City Hall
4801 W. 50th Street
Edina. MN 55424-1394
Dear Mr. Keprios:
We are responding to the proposed master plan for improvements to Walnut Ridge Park.
PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED TRIS YEAR
• Park shelter building with restroom facilities:
- too large and too close to houses on Biscayne Blvd-
- will contribute to non -park activities
- may create hang-out when park is officially closed
• Relocating the outdoor hockey rink boards and fencing:
- would not be opposed to move but do not see great need to relocate
• New tot lot (replacement of all old playground equipment).
- strongly support replacement of old playground equipment and encourage use of park by families
with small children.
• Replacement of walking bridge - okay.
PROPOSED FOR FUTURE PARK IMPROVEMENTS
• Park identification sign - ok
• Future addition of a basketball court:
- strongly opposed
1. Will create noise throughout the day and night
2. Will bring people in from outside Edina
3. No ability to monitor behavior or language (present facilties are not well monitored)
• Asphalt surface within the hockey rink:
- strongly opposed
- will attract in-line skater playing hockey (dangerous to young children)
- will attract skateboarders from outside Edina
- no plans for monitoring these activities
- will impinge on present activities of park, i.e., walking jogging, etc., especially by older people.
• Proposals are aimed at activities for youg male adults at the exclusion of family activities.
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We live directly behind these facilities and experience first-hand the positives and negatives of the park.
We frequently remind young people that rollerblading, skateboarding, biking and dogs are not allowed on
the tennis court even though signs clearly prohibit these activities. Given the blatant disregard to posted
signs on the tennis courts, how can you guarantee that there will not be such abuse of proposed facilities?
A case in point - on Saturday, April 26th, the police were called at 10:05 p.m. to report 7 vehicles driving
on park pathways and grass - to the far end of the park. We feel that these proposed changes will increase
this type of illegal activity.
We feel that the existing facilities need greater maintenance (i.e. tennis court needs cracks repairs. net
replaced, debris cleaned out, etc., cracks repaired on pathways, etc.) and that this maintenance should take
precedence over the installation of new facilities. Should these proposed changes be implemented, can
you guarantee that all the facilities would be properly monitored and maintained in the future?
Due to the type of activity by young adults - drinking and partying - in the parking lot after the park is
officially closed, we strongly recommend the installation of motion -detector lights in the parking lot
area to discourage any congregating after-hours. The police have had to respond to this type of activity
many times during the last few years (calls will be on record).
We hope these comments will be helpful in your deliberations and that you will take our concerns very
seriouslv.
Sincerely
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Second Draft: May 15, 1996
Prepared for: Southdale YMCA
Prepared by: TSP/Eos Architects, Engineers, Interior Designers
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1.. Table -of Contents,
1. Table of Contents.....................................................................................................
2. Project Team.............................................................................................................
3. Introduction...............................................................................................................
4. Project Summary.......................................................................................................
5. Space Program..........................................................................................................
6. Project Budget...........................................................................................................
7. Project Timetable.......................................................................................................
8. Concept Plans............................................................................................................
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2. ProjeckTealnz
Southdale YMCA / Edina Senior Center Facilities Taskforce
• Sandy Stooke, Executive Director, Southdale YMCA
• Gordon Hughes, Assistant City Manager, City of Edina
• Julia Bertrand, Recreation Supervisor, City of Edina
• Jackie Evans Doncavage, Adaptive Recreation Supervisor, City of Edina
• Sue Weigle, Director, Edina Senior Center
• Laura Schenck, Office Assistant, Edina Senior Center
• Catherine Mulholland, Senior Advisory Council, Edina Senior Center
• Baba Honmyhr, Senior Advisory Council, Edina Senior Center
TSP/Eos Team
• Pete Sieger, Architect, Programmer, Project Manager
• Rick Wessling, Architect, Programmer
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3. Introductions
In July 1994, Southdale YMCA secured the services of TSP One, Inc. (dba TSP/Eos) to define the scope
and cost to expand and renovate its facilities at 7355 York Avenue South in Edina. TSP/Eos together
with the Southdale YMCA Facilities Taskforce developed a five year master plan for improvements
documented in a Predesign Study dated July 31, 1995.
Subsequently, TSP/Eos has been further engaged by Southdale YMCA to study a possible partnership
between The Southdale YMCA and The Edina Senior Center. The purpose of this study is to outline a
program, concept and budget for a new senior center which could be developed concurrently with
proposed improvements to the Southdale YMCA.
4. Project Summary --
The Proposed Southdale YMCA / Edina Senior Center partnership will support and further the respective
missions of both organizations: "to develop the total person to strengthen families and to improve
human communities - both local and globaP'; and "to provide needed services to all Edina residents SS
gars or older, with major emphasis on recreational health social service and educational programs."
Through synergy and interdependence, this model for collaboration would deliver services to the senior
community more effectively than could be accomplished by either organization individually.
It is intended that the existing 72,788 square foot Southdale YMCA facility will be updated and expanded
through phased remodeling and new construction. In addition to the newly renovated and expanded
YMCA facilities outlined in the July 31, 1995 Predesign Study, a new 9,600 square foot senior center
would be constructed contiguous with existing and new YMCA facilities, while maintaining separate
access and identity for the senior center. Wherever possible, facilities would be shared to maximize cost
effectiveness of the project. Since the existing site places finite limits on the YMCA expansion, additional
land will be required to accommodate the senior center. This would be accomplished through City
contribution. A portion of the existing park land contiguous with the YMCA site to the north would be
added to achieve the necessary site size.
Construction of the senior center as defined herein is budgeted at 51.28 to 51.31 million.
Background
The Edina Senior Center dates to 1974, the same year Southdale YMCA opened its doors at 7355 York
Avenue South. The senior center originally occupied facilities at 7151 York Avenue South, just north of
the Southdale YMCA. In 1989, it moved to the Edina Community Center where it now occupies 7,000
square feet of space, and serves approximately 1,500 members.
Although the senior center has no lease, it does have an agreement to occupy space in the Edina
Community Center until the year 2000. In addition to its own premises, the senior center has access to
the auditorium and a variety of classrooms within the community center. Community education and other
services located within the community center are considered a plus for the senior center users. Access and
visibility, however, considering the third floor location, could be better.
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Organization_/ Operation / Programs
The Edina Senior Center is sponsored by the City of Edina Park and Recreation Department. Sue
Weigle, Recreation Supervisor and Senior Center Director, reports to the City Park and Recreation
Director. Laura Schenck, Office Assistant, provides administrative support at 30 to 40 hours per week.
Volunteers from the senior community assist Sue and Laura, and staff the reception desk part-time.
The City appropriates approximately $80,000 per year to fund senior center staffing and operations.
Nominal membership fees of $6 annually, in addition to occasional matching grants provide additional
operating moneys. Currently the space in the community center is provided rent free, however this is
expected to change after the year 2006.
Although membership is not a requirement for use of the senior center's facilities, 90% of the users are
members. Use of the facilities tends to average about 200 persons per day, with fall being the busiest
season and summer the slowest. Programs have included:
• Trips and Tours
• Swingin' Singin' Seniors
• Rhinestone Rockettes
• Card Parties
• Book Club
• Golf League
• Bowling League
• Men's Softball league
• Men's Volleyball League
• Slide Presentations
• Computer Interest Group
• Grandmothers for Peace
• Spelling Interest Group
• Gems Tap Group
• Caregiving Group
• Advisory Council
• Special Events
A variety of these activities, including golf, bowling and arts, occur off-site at facilities such as Braemar,
Edinborough Park and the Edina Arts Center.
Vision for the Future
It is the collective vision of the City, The Senior Center, and The Southdale YMCA that this studv could
be the first in a series of steps leading to a "freestanding" facility -- a senior center that maintains its own
unique identity, is autonomous. and easily accessible to the senior community. This partnership would be
a model for collaboration, one which builds on and maintains relationships already established at the
Edina Community Center. Considering that 30% of the Edina community is age 62 plus, and considering
the general trend towards "the graying of America", this partnership would provide greater capability for
outreach to the senior community, resulting in a membership of 2,000 or more by the year 2000.
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Proposed_ Facilities - The Site
Site conditions and improvements as part of the Southdale YMCA facilities master plan are outlined in
the July 31, 1995 Predesign Study. In general, these improvements will be driven by the needs for
adequate off-street parking, improved building accessibility, and "curb appeal'. These considerations will
further apply to a facilities program expanded to include the senior center. However, in addition, site size
will need to be increased to support the additional building square footage. 0_8 acres of city park land to
the north, at minimum, will need to be added to accommodate the inclusion of the new 9,600 square foot
senior center. 48 additional parking spaces (1 per 200 square feet of building area) will be required for
exclusive use of senior center patrons. 8 of these spaces will need to be dedicated for use by the physically
handicapped.
As defined in the Southdale YMCA master plan, site access will be by means of the two existing curb cuts
at York Avenue. Considering the disposition of YMCA facilities on the site, and the availability of
additional land, the senior center will be sited north of the YMCA facilities. The senior center should be
located prominently at the circular entrance drive so that its identity is clear and its access direct and
unmistakable. The entrance drive will be configured to permit bus traffic to a pick-up and drop-off area
serving entrances to both facilities.
Exterior lighting and signage should be used appropriately to support senior center access and identity.
Walks to the entrance of the building should have attractive'!and railings to facilitate travel from the
parking areas to the building. Landscaping should include evergreens, flowering shrubs and trees,
annuals and perennials, and a hedge screen along the north edge of the site. Site improvements should
also include a paved terrace with tables, chairs and umbrellas for cook -outs and informal gatherings. The
terrace should be oriented for optimal outdoor comfort.
Proposed Facilities - The Building
The space program for the proposed Southdale YMCA / Edina Senior Center has been definr..d by the
senior center. TSP/Eos has advised to establish or verifv necessary room sizes based on intended use. To
a large extent, the existing space program has been used as a pattern or prototype for th;- proposed facility.
While space definitions have been idealized, an effort has been made to distinguish between "wants" and
"needs" so that the proposed facility is both functional and achievable. Fundamental components of the
space program are as follows.
Entrance / Reception Area: The building entrance doors should be equipped with automatic operators
for ease of building access. The entrance / reception area will function as the arrival point within the
senior center. It should be a warm and pleasant space which will welcome patrons and visitors. A
reception desk should be located prominently for information and orientation purposes. Design of the
reception desk should include a window and counter similar to the desk in the existing senior center. The
reception area should include an arts and crafts display case, and a small sales area with a boutique
display case for merchandise. A comfortable waiting area should accommodate groups of up to 50
persons waiting for transportation for trips or tours. The waiting area could be smaller if located directly
adjacent to a comfortable gathering area with a direct view of the bus pick-up area. Wardrobe type coat
storage, restrooms including a family restroom, and a public telephone should all be accessible directly
from the entrance area. The entrance area, exclusive of the toilet rooms, should be carpeted.
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Staff Offices: Two offices should be provided -- one for use by the senior center director, and one for the
office assistant and the program volunteers. The director's office should accommodate a small in -office
conference area. Both offices should have windows to the exterior of the building and should be directly
accessible to the reception desk. Existing office furniture systems are new and should be reused in the
new facility. Floors should be carpeted. A copy / workroom to be located within the Southdale YMCA
administrative office area will be shared by both programs.
Large Gathering Room: The large gathering room should be similar to the existing "Platinum Room",
but not as long and narrow in configuration. This space will be used for large classes, general meetings,
performing groups, newsletter assembly and the annual flu shot clinic. Large windows to the exterior of
the building are desirable for daylighting. The room should be furnished with round tables on wheels and
chairs, comfortably seating up to 60 persons. A counter, sink and lockable storage cabinets should be
provided to accommodate the needs of individual groups. A portion of the room should be designed for
dance activities and should include a dance floor, sound system, and mirrored wall -- all built-in. The
floor should be carpeted except for the dance floor area. An adequate storage room should be immediately
available for tables and chairs, a piano, music stands, etc.
Card Room / Media Room: The card / media room will be used for card games, classes, small meetings,
and slide or video presentations. This room should comfortably accommodate 8 conventional card tables
(seating for 32) to be set-up semi -permanently. Sound control is important, and should include provisions
for both noise reduction within the space, and sound isolation from adjacent spaces. The floor should be
carpeted. Control of room lighting and daylighting should facilitate slide or video presentations.
Windows though not essential, should have black -out shades if provided. Lockable storage cabinets
should be provided to store cards, scoresheets and other materials for individual groups. Equipment
should include a large retractable screen, a whiteboard, an overhead projector, slide projector, and
TVNCR-
Classroom 1: Classroom 1 will be used for classes, small meetings, tax preparation, support group
meetings, and soft crafts, including quilting, knitting, and paper crafts. The room should be suitable for
an occupancy of up to 25 persons. The room should be furnished in part with long work tables and chairs.
A portion of the space should remain open for quilting. A counter, sink and lockable storage cabinets
should be provided to accommodate the needs of individual groups. Large windows to the exterior of the
building are desirable for daylighting. Flooring should be resilient and washable. This space will be a
joint use space to be provided by the Southdale YMCA program.
Classroom 2: Classroom 2 will be used for a variety of activities, including gardening projects / lessons,
woodcarving, painting, sculpture, pottery, and paper macho. The room should be suitable for an
occupancy of up to 20 persons. The room should be furnished and equipped with long, counter height
work benches and stools, a large / deep stainless steel sink, and a kiln. A small storage room should be
provided in conjunction with the kiln for "green ware". Large windows to the exterior of the building are
desirable for daylighting. Flooring should be resilient and washable.
Southdale YNICA / Edina Senior Center - Facilities Study - Page 7
Classroom 3: Classroom 3 will be used for a variety of activities, including small meetings, blood
pressure checks, hearing screenings, and podiatrist visits. The room should be furnished with work tables,
and office equipment including a copy machine, paper cutter, hole punch, etc. The room should
comfortably accommodate small groups of 12 to 16 persons. A counter, sink and lockable storage cabinets
should be provided to accommodate user needs. Windows are preferred for daylighting. The floor should
be carpeted.
Pool / Game Room: The pool / game room will be used for tournaments, games and socializing. The
room should be furnished with the two existing pool tables, and 2 to 3 square tables with chairs for board
games. Windows are not necessary, and the room could be an irregular shape. Equipment should include
a whiteboard and lockable storage cabinets. The floor should be carpeted.
Kitchenette / Commons / Library: The kitchenette / commons / library should be located near the large
gathering room. Collective use of this space will include preparation of snacks, storage for bag lunches,
socializing and reading. A shared kitchen area, equipped with deep basin sinks, a convection oven, and a
refrigerator / freezer (all commercial grade) will be located within the Southdale YMCA facility,
convenient to both programs. The kitchen area will include an alcove for pop and vending machines.
VOA express lunches may be served occasionally using paper or plastic goods. The commons area should
be furnished with 2 - 4 foot round tables and chairs seating up to 12 persons. The library should be
furnished with book shelving, magazine racks, a TV/VCR, and soft seating for up to 8 persons. The
library should also include 2 networked computer workstations and a printer. Windows are desirable for
daylighting. Flooring for the kitchenette and commons should be resilient and washable; The library floor
should be carpeted.
Circulation Spaces: Corridor / circulation spaces within the senior center should be warm, pleasant, user
friendly and easily maintainable. They should be carefully designed to maximize safety, security and
accessibility throughout the facility. Although the project design should promote a separate and unique
identity for the senior center, circulation systems for both the YMCA and senior center should be fully
integrated to facilitate shared use of common facilities where appropriate.
Mechanical / Electrical / Utility Spaces and Systems: Custodial / storage space should be provided as
necessary to support easy cleaning, maintenance and upkeep of the facility. Mechanical / electrical
systems for the senior center will be an extension of Southdale YMCA systems as outlined in the July 31,
1995 Predesign Report. Provisions should be made to submeter senior center utilities to isolate operating
expenses.
Building Code Considerations: Since YMCA facilities as planned approach the limits of allowable area
for the classified construction type (refer to the July 31, 1995 Predesign Study), an area separation will be
required between the new senior center and the YMCA facilities. Openings in the area separation will be
limited as dictated by the building code and must be protected with rated fire assemblies.
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5. Space Program,
Data presented in the following Table I summarizes senior center space, by use, in two categories:
• Column 1 - "Existint=" - existing space in the Edina Community Center.
• Column 2 - "Program" - proposed space to be provided in the master plan.
Table 1: Space ProLram (* designates joint use space to be contributed by SDYMCA program)
Use Code Net Assignable Area (Sq.Ft.)
Existing
Program
1.0 Entrance / Reception Area
1.1 Vestibule
0
1.2 Lobby
195
1.3 Reception Desk
100
135
1.4 Sales Area
0
60
1.5 Display
20
25
1.6 Coats
50
60
1.7 Toilets
0
400
1.8 Waiting
0
400
2.0 Staff Offices
2.1 Director
120
225
2.2 Office Assistant
85
120
2.3 Copy / Workroom
0
3.0 Large Gathering Room
3.1 Large Gathering Room
1,805
1,800
3.2 Storage
345
500
4.0 Card Room / Media Room
675
900
5.0 Classroom 1
630
*
6.0 Classroom 2
0
700
7.0 Classroom 3
0
480
8.0 Pool / Game Room
520
600
9.0 Kitchen / Commons / Library
9.1 Kitchen
80
9.2 Storage
205
100
9.3 Commons
385
250
9.4 Library
0
150
10.0 Maintenance / Custodial
0
25
Subtotal Assignable
5,215
6,930
Non -Assignable Area
12.0 Mechanical / Electrical
0
13.0 Walls
635
832
14.0 Circulation
1,435
1,559
Subtotal Non -Assignable
2,070
2,391
Total Gross Building Area
7,285
9,321
Efficiency % (Net SF/Gross SF)
72%
74%
Southdale Yh1CA / Edina Senior Center - Facilities Study - Page 9
6.- Project Budget -
Data presented in the following Table 2 constitutes a budget for project cost and construction cost,
expressed in 1996 dollars.
Notes:
1. Project costs do NOT contain many of the "soft" administrative or equipment costs that could be
expected. The scope of this study addresses primarily the "hard" construction costs, while
identifying those "soft" costs that could make up total project cost. Further input from the City of
Edina, the Edina Senior Center, and Southdale YMCA will be required to adequately define total
project cost.
2. Site improvement costs are expected to be high (-16% of total construction). Budgets account
for fill and retaining wall construction necessary to accommodate significant site grade changes
in the area available for the senior center building and parking improvements.
3. Table 2 below is based on the smaller of the two site plans (Site `A') illustrated in this report.
Add $36,000 to construction cost, and $40,000 to project cost for Site `B'.
Refer to the July 31, 1995 Predesign Study for cost estimating assumptions, definitions, and methods.
Table 2: Proiect Budget
Site/Building Construction Cost per Sq. Ft. (Note 2): 136.90
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2
Item Scope
$Cost
% of Total
1 Site/Building Acquisition
0
0%
2 Predesign Fees
5,200
0%
3 A/E Design Fees (1996 Means not incl site design)
75,521
5%
4 Other Fees (site design, engineering, survey, testing)
21,085
2%
5 Owners Administrative Costs
0
0%
6 Site/Building Construction
1,276,040
93%
7 Hazardous Abatement
0
0%
8 Technology (voice, video, data, cabling)
0
010/0
9 Securitv Sv_ stem
0
0%
10 Furniture, Fixtures & Equipment
0
0%
11 Other Equipment
0
0%
12 OccupancyiMoving
0
0%
13 Financing
0
0%
14 Other
0
0%
Total Project Cost - 1996 - S
1,377,8.16
100%
Site/Building Construction Cost per Sq. Ft. (Note 2): 136.90
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7. Project Timetable-
Time frame for design and construction of the senior center will depend largely on the availability of
funding for its completion. Under ideal circumstances, the senior center would proceed as part of the
Southdale YMCA expansion and renovation, phase I. The senior center could be completed with phase II,
or altogether independently, while sacrificing the economies of scale and introducing design and
construction redundancies. On average, construction of the senior center as defined could be completed in
8 to 10 months. Depending on funding and decision-making, design time could equal 50% to 100% of
construction time. A more aggressive schedule could be pursued at some further cost for design and
construction.
Southdale YNICA / Edina Senior Center - Facilities Study - Page l 1
Following are diagrammatic site and floor plans which illustrate a conceptual response to the senior center
space program as defined in this study. Concept plans illustrate the senior center in the context of the
completed Southdale YMCA master plan. The following Table 3 compares floor area illustrated in the
concept plan with area defined in the space program.
Table 3: Design vs. ProEram (* designates joint use space to be contributed by SDYMCA program)
Use Code Net Assignable Area (Sq.Ft.)
Program
Design
1.0 Entrance / Reception Area
1.1 Vestibule
*
64
1.2 Lobbv
*
384
1.3 Reception Desk
135
108
1.4 Sales Area
60
81
1.5 Display
25
25
1.6 Coats
60
91
1.7 Toilets
400
390
1.8 Waiting
400
421
2.0 Staff Offices
2.1 Director
225
200
2.2 Office Assistant
120
118
2.3 Copy / Workroom
3.0 Large Gathering Room
3.1 Large Gathering Room
1,800
1,902
3.2 Storage
500
505
4.0 Card Room / Media Room
900
905
5.0 Classroom 1
6.0 Classroom 2
700
716
7.0 Classroom 3
480
496
8.0 Pool / Game Room
600
603
9.0 Kitchen / Commons / Library
9.1. Kitchen
9.2 Storage
100
100
9.3 Commons
250
250
9.4 Library
150
162
10.0 Maintenance / Custodial
25
50
Subtotal Assignable
6,930
7,571
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Non -Assignable Area
12.0 Mechanical / Electrical
13.0 Walls
14.0 Circulation
832 729
1,559 1,285
Subtotal Non -Assignable 2,391 2,014
Total Gross Building Area 9,321 9,585
Efficiency % (Net SF/Gross SF) 74% 79%
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EDINA PUBLIC SCHOOLS
MEMORANDUM
DATE: November 22, 1995
TO: Ken Dragseth
FROM: Doug Johnson
SUBJECT: Extended Lease for the Edina Senior Citizen Center
As you are aware, the City of Edina has requested an extension of the lease for the Edina Senior Citizen
Center. The Community Education Services Board Facility Committee has reviewed the current lease and
recommends that we continue the lease for an additional period of five years. The identify the following
components to be included in a new agreement:
*Extend the current lease term from December 31, 2000 to December 31, 2005.
*For use of the space the City of Edina will pay rent based on actual cost per square
foot of operation of the Edina Community Center the previous year. Cost per square
foot will be determined as follows:
maintenance salaries
maintenance supplies
building repair
equipment repair
+utiliites
total cost of building
total cost of building/328,000 square feet = cost per square foot
Using this formula for 1994-95, the cost per square foot would be equal to $2.45/sq. ft.. The total cost of
Senior Citizen Center space (7,048 sq. ft.) would be $17,268.
Before proceeding further with the City of Edina, the C.E.S.B. asked that you review these numbers and
possibly share them with the Board of Education. I know that John Keprios is anxious to come to some
agreement as soon as possible.
Please feel free to contact me with questions or if you need more information.
1 I
e® February 18, 1997
John Keprios
Director, Edina Parks & Recreation
4801 W. 50th St.
5701 Edina, MN. 55424
NORMANDALE
ROAD Dear John,
EDINA Regarding the back ground on the request for an lease extension for the Edina Senior Citizens
MINNESOTA Center, please note the attached memos. As you can see, the district has expressed a desire to
55424 maintain the Senior Center as part of the Edina Community Center.
612/928-2500 When discussions began about the park & recreation referendum, there were discussions about
the possibility of constructing a free standing senior building. My understanding is that those
discussions are still continuing. For this reason, no formal action has taken place to extend the
FAX
612/928-2501 senior citizen lease beyond the year 2000.
If the City wishes to extend the lease, I will proceed with our Board of Education. They are
supportive of such an arrangement. Again, we are waiting for clear direction from the City.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish to pursue a formal lease agreement. Also, please
note that the terms and conditions stated in my November 22 memo to Ken Dragseth are flexible.
Specifically the length of the lease and the amount can be modified to fit the needs of the
program. For example, if the City wishes to have a longer term, I think the Board of Education
and City Council could certainly come to that type of arrangement. The bottom line is that I am
certain both of the elected groups will work to craft an acceptable agreement.
I look forward to hearing from you regarding this matter.
---- `_Sincerely,
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of Comm Education Services & Facilities
WE CARE V WE DARE V WE SHARE
an equal opportunity employer
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FOR ACTION INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT 273
Regular Meeting, February 25, 1991
Volume 62, Report 279
SUBJECT: LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF EDINA
(Recommended y the Community E ucation Services Board)
Be it Resolved, That
The Board of Education
1. Approve the lease of a portion of the Edina Community Center to
the City of Edina for use as a senior citizens' center.
2. Authorize the Board Chair to sign the lease document.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
The Edina Senior Citizens' Center, operated by the City of Edina, is currently
leasing the west community room of the Edina Community Center. Since relocat-
ing to the ECC in 1989, the senior program has continued to expand. They
have outgrown their current facility.
During the past year, several groups have worked together to create a proposal
for an expanded senior citizens' space.
The City is requesting to enter into an agreement with the School District
that would provide the seniors additional space and a much better overall
space arrangement. In exchange, the City will remodel and upgrade the space
at their cost (approximately $115,000 not including their labor which will
be donated) and approximately $50,000 in Community Development Block Grant
dollars to be used to make one or two sets of ECC restrooms handicapped acces-
sible. In addition, this new agreement will replace the existing one for
the west community room space. As soon as the new space is remodeled, the
senior center will vacate the west community room. In addition, the Board Room
will be relocated to Room 250/252, the west community room or the east community
room.
The current market value of the proposed space is approximately $39,840/year
(at $7.50/sq. ft.). The existing space is valued at $22,500/year.
The Edina Park Board, Edina Community Education Services Board, and the Edina
City Council have all approved the agreement. Demolition work will begin as
soon as possible after approval by the Board of Education.
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