HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-08-09 Park Board PacketEDINA PARK BOARD MEETING
Tuesday, August 9, 1983
7:30 P.M.
Edina Citv Hall
AGENDA
I. Approval of Minutes of June 14, 1983
II. Art Center Report
III. Golf Course Report
IV. Preliminary Budget Ideas
V. Recreation Report
Braemar Golf Course Committee
June 20, 1983 Meeting
Committee Members
Present: Don Wineberg, Chairman, Tom Prin, Wayne Gensmer,
Kathy Hanson, George Wilbur, Mary Nessett
Staff Present: John Valliere, Golf Course Manager, Joe Greupner,
Head Pro, John Nylund, Course Superintendent, Merwyn
Walker, Assistant Manager and Carole Kulak and Bob Kojetin
Others Present: Leonard Gaer and Henry Broback of the Men's Club
Greens Committee, Alice McFadzean, member of the
Braemar Women's League
John Valliere opened the meeting by explaining the purpose of the Golf Course
Committee. This committee is appointed and approved by the Park Board for the
purpose of making suggestions and recommending policy to the Park Department and
the Park Board. Because the committee consists of people who play and participate
in golf activites at Braemar, the committee is well qualified to make suggestions
to the Park Department and the Park Board, and the Park Board is better able to
® make decisions on policy to recommend to the council, which is the final authority
on setting policy and fees and.charges.
I. Senior Rates
John Valliere reviewed present senior rates and times offered:
Patron 18 holes - $4.50
Patron 9 holes - $3.00
Monday: 8-12 Noon
Wednesday: 2 P.M. - Close
Thursday: All Day
Friday: Open -11 A.M.
non -patron 18 holes - $6.50
non -patron 9 holes - $4.00
Alice McFadzean voiced the complaint that the greatest consideration was given to
men's leagues; Golden Age and Men's Club leagues, without consideration for the
ladies leagues. Her league plays on Wednesday morning and senior rates are not in
effect that day until 2 P.M. She feels that senior rates should be in effect all
day on every week day to be fair to all.
Don Wineberg stated that perhaps there should be more consistency in the offering
of Senior rates.
Lennie Gaer made the motion that Senior rates be in effect all day each day,
Monday through Friday and that the rate be set at $1.00 reduction for 18 holes and
$.50 for 9 holes instead of the present reduction of $1.50 on 18 holes and $1.00
on 9 holes. The motion was seconded and carried, and will be forwarded to the
park board and council for final approval. A tentative date of August 1st was aimed
for.
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II. Building Program
John explained that preliminary drawings are now being prepared by an architect
and will be submitted soon for the clubhouse renovation.
Parks Director Bob Kojetin explained that the new maintenance building had been
delayed because of the need to connect the clubhouse to the city sewer last fall.
He explained that various methods of financing the building program (maintenance
building and clubhouse) are being considered.
III. Fees for 1984 (patron cards and greens fees)
Patron cards sales to date this year are over 1400 compared to 1360 in 1982.
It was clear that all present felt that golfing charges at Braemar are very reason-
able compared to other courses in the area and that in 1984 it will be in order to
increase both patron card fees as well as green fees.
Tom Prin voiced the opinion that now patron rates could be increased to $10.00
or $12.00 per round.
George Wilbur felt the same and recognized that all fees should possibly be increased
next year. Tom Prin brought up the matter of reduced rates for Junior golfers and
was informed by John Valliere that we now have such rates available for $35.00 --
$3.50 per round. Mr. Prin was pleased to know of this break being given to our Edina
Junior Golfers.
IV. Leaque Membershi
Mr. Valliere stated that 8 of the 12 ladies leagues had waiting lists from 5 to
100. The Golden Age Men's group has a short waiting list and the Men's Club has
approximately 100 waiting for membership, plus the couples league now has a waiting
list.
It was stated that some of the ladies and also men were playing in two leagues
plus the couples league -- and in doing so were delaying those on the waiting lists
from being accepted.
An idea presented by John was that starting next year, all leagues restrict new
memberships to persons who are not a member of another Braemar league, with the
exception of the Couples League. Present members of more than one league would be
allowed to maintain memberships until the end of the 1985 season. Starting in 1986
they would be restricted to one league not including the Couples League.
V. Citations for Golf Violations
John Valliere explained a new system of issuing citations to golfers who violate
good golf ethics including slow play. These citations would be in the form of warn-
ings issued by ranges on the course. Three warnings to one person would call for
follow-up by the management. It is hoped that this action will result in better
care of the course (repairing ball marks on greens, raking sand traps, etc.), and
in speedier play.
VI. Greens Committee
John explained that three persons present are members of the Braemar Men's Club
Greens Committee: Leonard Gaer, Henry Broback, and Wayne Gensmer.
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John Nylund, course superintendent, was complimented on the condition of the
course and continuing improvements being made.
A letter was read from the president of the Men's Club listing some suggestions
from members for improvement of the course; this list was discussed and turned over
to John Nylund. Some items, such as a new shelter near the 4th tee, have already
been built. A suggestion that lightning rods be installed on all shelters was made
-- John Nylund will look into the matter.
Henry Broback from the Greens Committee of Braemar Men's Club, suggested removing
old sprinkler system heads and filling in low spots on fairways as a result of the
new watering system. John Nylund advised that this was being done in the normal
maintenance and improvements to the golf course.
There being no further items on the agenda, Mr. Valliere thanked all those in
attendance for their input and frank discussion on all matters before the committee.
Meeting adjourned.
BRAEMAR GOLF COURSE BUILDING PROGRAM
The success of the Braemar Golf Course operation has been close to over-
whelming. The participation by our residents is still on the increase. Patron
card sales have increased at the rate of about 100-150 per year for the last five
years. 1983 sales are 1450 in number. The profit picture is also coming along
nicely. The original bond issue will be retired by 1987. Improvements have been
made during the past years with the cost being born by the revenues of the course
itself. Examples are: a $300,000 irrigation system in 1979 complete with two new
wells; renovation of tees and greens; clubhouse kitchen equipment; upgrading and
replacement of equipment for maintenance; expansion of the pro shop; and installation
of a new sewer line.
MAINTENANCE BUILDING
The present maintenance building is a pole barn structure put up in 1963.
Only two minor changes have been made to this building. The east end was enclosed
to be able to store fertilizer and some renovation of the west end to insulate it
and add a small bathroom. The equipment, which is stored in the building, has
dramatically increased. When all golf course maintenance equipment is presently
in the building, there is virtually no room for a work area. Equipment must be
placed outside to do repair work on other maintenance equipment. In addition, other
city department equipment must presently be stored outside of the building in a
non -secure area. Also the building is poorly designed from a work -maintenance stand
point. It was only designed for six months usage. However, year-round maintenance
is performed in the building now. Some examples are: (1) The two Zambonis from the
arena (2) much of the park department mower grinding and repair is completed in the
small repair area (3) 100% of golf course equipment including engine, golf car and
mower grinding is all done within this repair area.
A new energy efficient building is needed for the above reasons. The work load
for the course, the arena, the ball diamond complex, the parks department and other
city maintenance, has increased so much that additional work area and storage space
is required. A new building should incorporate the following:
1) An energy-efficient, year-round building, approximately 40' x 75'
2) Equipment repair area
3) Additional equipment storage area
4) Chemical storage area
5) Employee lunch room for all types of city employes working in this area
of the city
6) Office
7) Combination rest room for maintenance peool'e and golfers on golf course
This new building would be in addition to the present building, which would con-
tinue to be a secured cold storage area and a heated painting and grinding area for
equipment.
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CLUBHOUSE ENLARGEMENT
The present clubhouse was built in 1964 and was built as a 9 -months facility.
It has not had any major changes with the structure or traffic pattern since that
time. The clubhouse will comfortably seat about 65 people. Its original inception
of normal traffic movement was adequate. However, with the advent of the golf
leagues and their large memberships, a need for additional seating space has been
created. League play for both ladies and men is very much an advantage for the golf
course as it provides a social atmosphere to meet fellow golfers and to compete on
a friendly level. These leagues now make up a very great deal of regular traffic.
The total number of golfers in League play at Braemar is about 1800 people per week
with many of them playing twice per week. That is very loyal and stable customer
traffic. These people, when they have a function, do not have an adequate meeting
area. Many times they are forced to retire to other locations after golf or just
schedule their meetings or whatever, at some other location. It would be nice to
offer a place where they could meet after they have finished their outing on the
course and conduct a meeting and business without interrupting the normal flow of
traffic. At present, this is next to impossible.
Such an addition would also provide a facility for other community meetings in
a very desirable atmosphere. At the same time, the clubhouse could be enlarged to
incorporate some very needed changes and upgrading including making it more energy-
efficient.
I believe that this addition could be rented out four of the seven nights per
week and this would be by outside groups and should be revenue-producing.
It is not our intent to provide a restaurant for sit-down dinners, but on cer-
tain occasions, this could be accomplished by building a hot table for catering
events through approved caterers.
PAR - 3
A normal length golf course is about 6500 to 7000 yards long. A typical nine
holes will be about 3000 to 3500 yards in length. An executive course ranges from
1800 to 2800 yards. The present Par -3 course is 1100 yards long. The small course
is very nice for beginners or very young people just getting into the game. However,
young people outgrow this course usually in about one year. Adults are disenchanted
with it because it does not afford an opportunity to use very many clubs in the bag.
Reason: too short. Efforts to keep golf leagues interested in this short of a course
is difficult as they do not see it as a challenge after they become proficient in the
game.
A longer course will accomplish the following:
1) Provide a facility which would appeal to a wider number of the golfing public.
2) Provide additional revenues over and above the additional cost of maintenance
and operation.
3) Provide a facility for many seniors and ladies who find the full-size course
too difficult.
4) Provide an outlet to move a couple of leagues from the large course to that
course and thus make more available tee times on the regulation course.
5) 1982 - 24,000 rounds with revenue of $75,010Project about 35,n�ods at
$5/round to produce revenue of about $175,000
There are some inherent problems with this endeavor, but they can be overcome, and
the end result will be more revenue and many of the customers who are turned away
from the regulation course would be inclined to play that size course.
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