HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-09-29 Council Special Meeting 3 Rivers MINUTES
OF THE JOINT WORK SESSION OF THE
EDINA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT COMMISSION
HELD AT SOUTH VIEW MIDDLE SCHOOL
SEPTEMBER 29, 2010
7:04 P.M.
ROLLCALL Answering rollcall were Members Bennett, Brindle, Housh, Swenson and Mayor
Hovland. Members of the Three Rivers Park District Commission in attendance were: Chair Larry
Blackstad, and Commissioners Marilynn Corcoran, Rosemary Franzese, Barbara Derus Kinsey,
Dale Woodbeck, and Sara Wyatt. Three Rivers Park District staff in attendance were: Kelly
Grissman, Senior Manager of Planning; Cris Gears, Superintendent; Boe Carlson, Associate
Superintendent; Don DeVeau, Director of Planning and Development; Jonathan Vlaming, Chief of
Planning, and Ciara Schlichting, Planner with Bonestroo. Attending from Edina's staff was John
Keprios, Park and Recreation Director.
PRESENTATION MADE— NINE MILE REGIONAL TRAIL
Park and Recreation Director Keprios welcomed all to the joint work session and explained the
purpose of tonight's meeting was to formally present study results on the Nine Mile Creek regional
trail and provide an opportunity for the Edina City Council to ask questions of the Three Rivers
Park District Commissioners and staff. He advised that a public hearing would be scheduled at a
future date and encouraged residents to submit questions in writing for response by staff. Mr.
Keprios thanked all who had participated in this process and acknowledged the attendance of
Edina Park Board Members in the audience. Mr. Keprios recapped the ten-year process under
which this trail had been considered and support of the Edina City Council for the Three Rivers
Park District to implement a regional trail corridor and complete an environmental assessment
worksheet (EAW) for potential segments within the City of Edina.
Three Rivers Park District Senior Manager of Planning Grissman welcomed all to the meeting and
provided a presentation detailing the project background; maps depicting the District's regional
trail system, creek-based and road-based routes for review and consideration; and, next steps to
take. She stated the intent was to develop one preferred route through Edina. Ms. Grissman
displayed graphs that summarized resident survey results that identified 86% of respondents
indicated a need for walking and bike trails; 66% indicated a need for natural areas and wildlife
habitat; 64% ranked park and recreational facilities as being the most important; and, 66%
indicated a willingness to fund walking and biking trails with additional tax dollars.
Following a presentation of the City's 2007 Comprehensive Bicycle Transportation Plan and Plan
maps, Ms. Grissman advised of the composition and role of the Community Assessment Team
(CAT), which was established by the City to review all routes under consideration. The CAT also
gathered and prioritized information related to social, technical and economic factors, and
conducted a voluntary environmental assessment. The voluntary environmental assessment
concluded that potential environmental impacts were addressable in design, permitting,
construction, and operation phases so an environmental impact statement (EIS) was not
warranted. She explained wetland impacts identified in the environmental assessment and how
the impacts would be mitigated within the immediate area. With regard to wildlife, it was
determined the only impacted regulated species was the Blandings Turtle and that potential affect
would be addressed, if needed.
Ms. Grissman reviewed the opportunities available for public input and indicated that all public
comments had been compiled and summarized. Of the 118 comments received indicating
support for the trail, only one preferred the road-based route. Comments expressing objections
were based on the costs being too high, environmental concerns, the trail being unsafe for non-
trail users, and that priority should not be given to recreational trails.
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Ms. Grissman described the alignment for each segment of a creek-based route and displayed
pictures depicting different types of trail construction including boardwalks. She then described
the alignment of each segment of a road-based route and displayed examples of road-based
trails. Ms. Grissman stated the third alternative was no trail within Edina, creating a gap in the
regional trail system.
Ms. Grissman presented the considerations determined by the CAT that the most important items
to be considered were the number of adjacent homes, distance of the home to the trail,
driveway/roadway crossings, availability of right-of-way, and what the trail would cost. A chart was
displayed that detailed each of CAT's findings including pros and cons for a creek-based route
and a road-based route. Ms. Grissman advised that if a route was not found in Edina, the
District's funds would be directed to other park projects and access to the Edina High School
complex north of Highway 62 would continue to be on sidewalks along Gleason and Tracy
Avenues.
With regard to project costs, Ms. Grissman stated that a creek-based route was estimated at $20
million and a road-based route was estimated at $17 million. Operations and maintenance costs
for the entire regional trail was $185,000 annually regardless of type of route. She noted that
about 20-25% of the project cost was for the two bridges over Highways 62 and 100. Ms.
Grissman reviewed financing options for capital costs and partnership opportunities and indicated
it was not anticipated to raise local property taxes to fund these costs. Operation and
maintenance costs were funded from the District's general operating fund that included property
taxes and funds from the Metropolitan Council.
Ms. Grissman explained the approval process through the Edina Park Board, Edina City Council,
Nine Mile Creek Watershed District, School District, and finally the Three Rivers Park District. She
stated that if the project moved forward implementation steps would include: completion of a
master plan, cooperative trail agreement, securing of trail easements, grant applications, and once
funding was in place construction would commence. The federal grant application for funding in
2015 and 2016 was due June of 2011 so a project decision would be needed from the Edina City
Council by March of 2011. If the project were not approved by that point, the trail segment would
be delayed by an additional two years.
ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION HELD
Mayor Hovland commented that the regional trail was one of the most important issues to face
Edina and that the Council was committed to analyze all of the data, gather comments, and
analyze the facts before reaching a conclusion. He indicated this topic would be on the Council's
October 5, 2010, meeting agenda for discussion of the process and to consider whether the
matter should be referred to the Park Board and other entities for analysis and recommendation.
Mayor Hovland recognized the attendance of CAT members and expressed the City's
appreciation for their contribution. He described the steps that would be followed and emphasized
that the Council was mindful and sensitive to the resident's interests and would continue to be so
throughout the process. He indicated that when the matter was finished, he would like the City to
say they had worked on it as a community and regardless of the outcome would remain a
community.
The Council raised the issue of a 35 mph speed limit for bicycles on the trail. Associate
Superintendent Carlson advised that the Three Rivers Park District does not have an ordinance to
set an arbitrary speed limit. Rather, it was based on utilizing trails under a manner of control for
existing conditions. He indicated that all trails were multi-use.
The Council asked if the Three Rivers Park District would fund the preferred route whether it was
creek-based or road-based. Superintendent Gears stated the Three Rivers Park District Board
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does fund different types of trails, both on- and off-road. In this case, the Board would review
whatever route the City preferred, the cost in relationship to other District projects, and make a
decision on funding. Three Rivers Park District Board Chair Blackstad explained that regardless
of trail location, the intended funding was a federal grant covering 80% of the cost and requiring a
20% match from other entities, some of which could come from the District's Capital Improvement
Plan (CIP) budget. Mr. Carlson advised that a creek-based trail may score better with a federal
grant and whether road- or creek-based, funding may include federal, state, and other entity
funding.
With regard to maintenance of trails, Mr. Carlson indicated the Three Rivers Park District was
responsible for the trail improvements and maintenance. Mr. Gears advised that in addition to
regional rail corridors, the Three Rivers Park District also had more than 200 miles of paved trails,
many built under conditions similar to Edina's alignments. Both operations and maintenance costs
were paid through a separate capital fund, and the District maintained a pavement condition data
base to assure all trails were in a safe condition for users.
The Council asked whether the EAW addressed potential impacts to nearby homes from heaving
construction equipment during boardwalk installation. Ciara Schlichting, Bonestroo Planner,
stated they recommend that construction in wetland areas occur during the winter when the
ground is frozen and potential for impact was greatly minimized. Director of Planning and
Development DeVeau stated the District had no information that led them to believe construction
of boardwalks in summer or winter would impart any construction impacts to residential or
adjoining properties. He advised that boardwalks do not use extremely deep footings.
The Council discussed the timing of construction and asked if 2015 would be the earliest date for
project commencement. Ms. Grissman stated there might be some immediate opportunities in
some locations if the trail project was done concurrently with road reconstruction projects
contained in the City's CIP. With regard to financing, Mr. Gears stated the District may borrow
money to construct earlier than receipt of federal grant funds in 2015 or 2016.
It was indicated that during summer sporting events, the parking lots at Edina City Parks along the
proposed routes were oftentimes full. The need for parking was discussed by the Council, and the
question arose whether additional parking lots would be constructed. Ms. Grissman stated the
District believed existing parking lots in City parks, on-street parking, and other parking
infrastructure could be capitalized so they would not anticipate constructing new parking lots
Chief of Planning Vlaming indicated that over one-half of regional trail users lived within three-
fourths of a mile from the trail. Thus, they would not expect most trail users to drive a vehicle to
and from the trail system. In addition, the District's maps identify locations of parking lots and
designated trailheads, as preferred by local authorities. Mr. Vlaming assured the Council that the
creek-based trail would have sufficient points of access. Three Rivers would work with Edina as to
which parking lots, parks and bathrooms would be named on their map if any.
The Council asked how much boardwalk was being contemplated with a creek-based route,
especially in segments 9 and 11, and whether that information would be available in advance of
the Council's decision. Ms. Grissman advised of the off-road trail segments that would incorporate
a boardwalk and explained that the exact percentage would be determined during the design and
development stage. Mr. Vlaming provided a detailed description of locations where boardwalk
was proposed. With regard to the height of the boardwalk above the surface and vertical
dimension including railing, Ms. Grissman explained that level of detail would be determined
during the design and development stage and would depend on the regulatory agency since
requirements vary. She stated in general, boardwalks were constructed two to three feet above
the ordinary high water mark with 42 inches from the decking to the railing. Mr. Vlaming
suggested a good example of boardwalks would be the Luce Line Regional Trail where the
boardwalk could not be seen from the road and vice versa. Ms. Grissman explained that
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boardwalk would only be constructed in designated wetlands. The trail would be built at grade if
located in a floodplain. Mr. Gears stated the District would prepare a map that identified areas
where boardwalks were anticipated at designated wetlands.
The Council next addressed screening between the trail and private property and asked if it was
the responsibility of the District or homeowner. Mr. Carlson stated the Dakota Trail was an
existing railroad corridor, adding in many cases the private property had encroached on the
railroad easement. In some areas, the railroad sold property to the private property owner so they
could improve their property. Mr. Carlson explained with the Dakota Trail project District staff had
met with each resident who had concerns relative to privacy or limited easement areas.
Cooperatively, District staff and property owners identified vegetative or fencing solutions. The
District paid for all pediments, fencing, and improvements made within the right-of-way. In some
instances the property owner chose to do something (plantings or fences) on their own property
and in that case the property owner paid for the improvement. Mr. Carlson reviewed the
screening options available that included berming, a variety of vegetation, and wooden board-on-
board or split rail fencing.
Mr. Carlson explained that Three Rivers Park District was responsible for downed tree removal
and would work cooperatively with City staff if they became aware of a maintenance issue. He
noted that trail signage included guidelines, courtesy messages, and contact telephone numbers.
The Council asked the District to address how it handled its current debt and additional debt for
this segment of trail. Mr. Gears stated the District had a ten-year project forecast and within that
ten-year window, was anticipating a major expenditure for trails within first-tier suburbs. Each
year, the District borrowed money for capital projects, but the District had also been able to retire
bonds each year so it balanced with bonds being sold. In this case, the District would not borrow
$20 million, since a federal grant would cover 80% of the costs, phased construction would be
used, and other funding sources were available to lower the District's contribution.
A discussion ensued regarding drafting a competitive federal grant application. Mr. Carlson
advised that grant applications receive a higher score if the project was within a first-tier suburb
with a high density. Other features that score well were tying in key elements to increase
pedestrian flow such as pedestrian crossings over roadways and creating connectivity to schools
and churches in areas with limiting freeway system boundaries.
Mr. Gears stated funding agencies also looked at the number of street crossings managed or
mitigated, usability and safety for the user, and whether the project was park/trail oriented or
transportation oriented. Mr. Carlson commented that another component that scored well was the
organization's ability to bring "money to the table" and sufficiently match money. He indicated the
Three Rivers Park District was well positioned to receive a grant for this project because of its
broad tax base.
The Council noted bicycling was a popular activity in Edina. They asked if directness of the
proposed route was a consideration. Chair Blackstad stated that was a consideration because if a
route was not typically bicyclists would use the streets. He explained if this trail was not federally
funded, the Three Rivers Park District would consider how this segment fit its priorities. It was
noted that if the Edina segment was not constructed that would create a missing link for the entire
region, not just the Three Rivers Park District.
Three Rivers Park District staff was asked to provide the City with additional information on the
percentage of boardwalk being contemplated, elevation and height of the boardwalk, sight lines
from abutting properties, and building material that would mitigate noise impacts.
Potential impact to butting residential property values was discussed. Mr. Carlson clarified that
the issue was the proximity of the home to the trail, not the proximity of the property line to the
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trail. He advised the District had found that abutting property owners had no issues regarding
safety or trash, and that was evident because there were no instances of police reports. Mr.
Carlson stated their police department submits quarterly reports on every call received that
identified the location and type of call. Those quarterly reports were reviewed by staff and the
Board to determine if there were trends. Mr. Carlson advised that the largest complaint, system
wide, was trail-on-trail activities like conflicts between a bicyclist and dog walker and patrons not
obeying regulatory signage. In addition, there had been no serious accidents between bicyclist
and pedestrian. The Council asked Ms. Grissman to provide internet links with respect to impact
on property values as well as a study from Indiana on homes located near trails. Chair Blackstad
referenced a study conducted in Hennepin County that found a positive correlation in home values
if located along a trail that was equivalent to adding a fireplace or bedroom. With regard to public
access to this data, Ms. Grissman stated the assessment findings were posted to the District's
website, and they would research the study mentioned by Chair Blackstad because it may be
relevant.
The Council asked whether the police call data captured calls made to local police departments.
Mr. Carlson stated the District's calls were dispatched through Hennepin County and if identified
on a Hennepin County or Three Rivers Park District facility, the District took note of that call. The
District may not get the call information if a local police officer responded or the call was not routed
by the Hennepin County dispatch system, but the District police chief had a good working
relationship with municipal police chiefs.
Ms. Grissman and Mr. Keprios indicated that correspondence received from residents would be
posted to the District and City websites within the next week or two.
Three Rivers Park District Commissioner Corcoran advised of the District's "safety on wheels" that
patrolled trails, created a "presence," and could help if something happened. She reviewed
several areas in the metropolitan area where homes existed or had been constructed near
regional trails and that when listed for sale; the trail proximity was highly marketed.
Three Rivers Park District Commissioner Kinsey felt a key finding was that a road-based trail had
30 road crossings compared to 11 road crossings with a creek-based route. She stated she
understood that a creek-based route was not popular with a number of homeowners, but the
number of road crossings addressed a safety issue, which might also be a consideration to gain
funding.
The Council indicated it desired to have an effective voice in the final design process to assure
impacts were minimized, noting three homes would be within 25 feet of a creek-based trail. Mr.
DeVeau explained that every city had a different process so the District would ask for that
acknowledgement from Edina on final design was welcomed.
With regard to the City providing the trail easement to the Three Rivers Park District, Mr. Gears
advised an easement was not ownership of property but the right to use the property for an
exclusive use. He stated that having the easement would be directly tied to the District's ability to
gain funding. Mr. Gears stated the District wanted to assure an investment of this size had a long
life, and the term of the easement would have to be at least as long as the term for debt
payments, typically 20-25 years. The Council asked whether a conditional easement was an
option in case trail funding was not obtained. Mr. Carlson assured the Council that the Three
Rivers Park District would have no need to retain the easement if the trail was not constructed and
would turn it back to the City.
The Council asked about the contemplated width in segment 7 if a road-based route was selected.
Ms. Grissman explained that in segment 7 the shoulder width would be narrowed or parking
removed, and the design would have to still meet engineering and MSA standards. The Council
discussed the proposed trail location in Walnut Ridge Park near the hockey rink and impact to
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trees. Mr. Gears stated the District would work with Edina to minimize impact to natural
resources, trees, and close proximity to park amenities. Mr. Keprios stated at one point that trail
alignment went through the south end of Walnut Ridge Park but was moved to the north because
of water table and park use issues. He indicated the placement of this trail section might be worth
revisiting. Chair Blackstad noted there had been no police reports on conflict with children
crossing the trails.
Mr. Keprios questioned application deadlines of which the Council should be mindful. Mr. Gears
stated the District now had funding for first-tier trail construction in its ten-year plan, and the Edina
project was high on the list for funding in the near term. He referenced the aforementioned federal
grant application deadline of June of 2011, meaning a Council decision on a preferred route was
needed by late February or early March. If not determined by that time, the District would apply
for federal grant funds for another project and delay the Nine Mile Creek trail by two years.
Kevin Bigalke, Nine Mile Watershed District Administrator, advised that the creek bank
stabilization field assessment was funded in the Watershed District's 2011 budget. The
streambank reconstruction would occur over several winter seasons, 2013-2015, to minimize
impact to soils and vegetation. He stated the Watershed District wanted to coordinate its
streambank project with any trail construction to minimize disturbance.
The Council complimented the Three Rivers Park District staff on its informative presentation and
cooperative work with Edina's residents to gain their input.
Chair Blackstad stated the District Board appreciated the opportunity to meet with the City Council
and looked forward to working with Edina's Park Board and staff.
There being no further business on the Council Agenda, Mayor Hovland declared the joint work
session adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
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Minutes approved by Edina City Council, October 5, 2010
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Audio Copy of the September 29, 2010, Work Session available.
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