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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2005
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Michael Schroeder, Michael Fischer, John Lonsbury, Floyd Grabiel and
Basima Tewfik
STAFF PRESENT:
Craig Larsen Joyce Repya and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the September 28, 2005, meeting were filed as submitted.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
Edina Heritage Landmark Designation for Edina Theater Sign
3911 West 50th Street
Ms. Repya informed the Commission tonight, the Edina Heritage
Preservation Board is proposing designating the Edina Theater Sign as an Edina
Heritage Landmark.
Ms. Repya explained the Edina Theater was not originally planned for the
50th and France area. In 1934, the developer had his sites set on the 50th and
Xerxes neighborhood. However, due to the pressures from neighborhood
groups, the new theater moved west to the delight of Edinans both past and
present.
Ms. Repya told the Commission Liebenberg and Kaplan, the architectural
firm that designed some of the historic Country Club District homes, planned for
an Art Deco style motion picture theater that featured a brick faced, ziggurat
stepped facade with a tower, metal canopy and lighted sign. Ms. Repya noted
the theater opened on August 31, 1934 and has served the community well,
providing an anchor for the 50th and France commercial district.
Ms. Repya pointed out over time, the theater has undergone extensive
renovations to include replacement of the original canopy and marquee,
modifications to the entrance, lobby, lounge, box office and retail spaces. The
original single screen auditorium was reconstructed in 1984 to accommodate 4
smaller auditoriums.
Ms. Repya reported the vertical "Edina" sign that exists today is a
reconstruction of the original 1934 electric lighted sign that was destroyed by a
tornado in 1981. The sign is made of steel and covered with sheet metal.
"Edina" is spelled out with fluorescent tubing, surrounded by flashing
incandescent light bulbs that are illuminated in sequence to simulate movement.
Variances for sign height, sign area, and light motion were approved to continue
the non -conforming status of the reconstructed sign.
Since the 1981 reconstruction, the sign had fallen into a state of
considerable disrepair both structurally and electrically. The theater owner, Gene
Haugland and Landmark Theaters worked together to research the original
details of the 1934 sign and restore it to its former glory. In recognition of their
preservation efforts, the Edina Theater Sign was awarded the 2004 Edina
Heritage Award.
Ms. Repya concluded although the Edina Theater is one of the last
remaining prewar movie houses in the Twin Cities, the building has lost much of
its historic significance as a result of alterations which have removed or obscured
many of its Art Deco details. More than seventy years after it was first
illuminated, the sign continues to produce a dramatic transformation of the
nighttime streetscape along West 50th Street.
Ms. Repya told the Commission Mr. Gene Haugland, theater owner is
present this evening and will respond to questions if the Commission has any.
Commissioner Fischer asked Ms. Repya if it is "normal procedure" to
come before the Planning Commission instead of going directly to the City
Council for this type of designation.
Ms. Repya explained designating a landmark is treated the same as a
rezoning. Code requires that both the Commission and City Council review the
request and act.
A brief discussion ensued with Commission Members in agreement on the
importance of preserving the Edina Theater Sign.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend that the Edina Theater
Sign be designated as a Heritage Landmark. Commissioner McClelland
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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P-06-1 Final Development Plan
C-06-1 Conditional Use Permit and
Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance
Gabbert & Beck/Ryan Companies
3510 Galleria, Edina, MN
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the development team is present
this evening to present an informational overview of a proposal to construct a 225
unit hotel building with 79 condo units above in the northeast corner of the
Galleria Shopping Center tract.
Mr. Larsen introduced to the Planning Commission Mr. Warren Beck,
Galleria property owner.
Chair Byron asked Mr. Larsen if this request triggers an amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Larsen responded this request does not trigger an
amendment to the Comprehensive Plan; however, it would trigger an amendment
to the Zoning Ordinance to allow a reduction in building setback due to building
height and increase in Floor Area Ratio (FAR).
Mr. Warren Beck, Greenwood, Minnesota introduced the development
team to include Mark Swenson, Tracey Jacques, of esg Architects, Mike Farmer,
of Ryan Companies, and Vern Swing, of RLK.
Mr. Beck addressed the Commission informing them the Galleria opened
in 1959 and since that time the Galleria has undergone a number of
redevelopment scenarios, in 1973, 1980, 1991 and the present. Mr. Beck said
the focus of the Galleria continues to be on family and community, and it is their
hope this project will meet the needs of a certain group and be of benefit to the
entire community. Mr. Gabbert said in his opinion a full service hotel would be a
plus for the City of Edina.
With graphics Mr. Beck pointed out the proposal is for 225 upscale hotel
rooms (to include 6 luxury suites) and 79 condominium units. Condo units will
range in size from 1,040 — 3,200 square feet. Mr. Beck explained the hotel public
functions (restaurant, meeting space, recreation area to include pool, spa and
workout area) are at street level with hotel rooms on floors 2-7. The
condominiums will be located on floors 8-18. A new four -level ramp will be
constructed with 751 parking stalls, in addition to 74 surface stalls. The ramp will
also have the potential in the future to accommodate a 5th level for an additional
count of 197 spaces. Mr. Beck said he believes the hotel/residential concept of
this proposal would generate Tess traffic than a straight retail or office use. Mr.
Beck acknowledged building height may pose an issue, adding tall buildings are
not new to the greater Southdale area. He pointed out Point of France is 17
stories, Edina Park Plaza is 18 stories, Durham Apartments, 13 stories, and 7500
York Avenue is 14 stories. Mr. Beck introduced Mr. Tracey Jacques, architect.
Mr. Jacques told the Commission he is very excited to be working on this
project, with graphics and video animation he presented to the Commission the
hotel/condominium building project in visual form. Mr. Jacques told the
Commission the expression of this project is "Modern Classic". The base of the
hotel is dark brown brick to blend with the exterior materials of the existing
Galleria building located directly east. On the hotel portion (floors 2-7) exterior
materials will be polished pre -cast panels with glass and metal window sill
extensions. The condo element of the building is proposed to be curtain wall and
metal. Mr. Jacques said the proposed building facade is facetted to break up
building mass, with the Westin hotel sign located at the top of the building tower.
Concluding his presentation Mr. Jacques informed the Commission an
underground Zink is also proposed between the hotel and existing Galleria
shopping center.
Mr. Mayo, 6041 Kellogg Avenue addressed the Commission and
explained he represents faith based groups that are interested in maintaining and
providing affordable housing for Edina's work force (teachers, nurses, police, fire
fighters, etc.). Mr. Mayo said he believes the City and faith based groups should
become partners to provide more affordable housing and to ensure that
affordable housing units remain available in Edina. Chair Byron thanked Mr.
Mayo for his attendance, adding he believes this is an appropriate time for the
faith based groups to introduce themselves to the City. Chair Byron concluded
this is a good opportunity to open up discussions between the City
Mr. Steven Helgeson, 3609 55th St. W., told the Commission he believes
this is a good opportunity to create a more urban center type of environment in
Edina. He added in his opinion this proposal presents an exiting opportunity and
asked the developers and City to not forget the potential of the streetscape. Mr.
Helgeson said he believes the greater Southdale area will continue to go through
a "conversion" process, adding he wants the City to keep in mind the pedestrian
experience and streetscape.
Commissioner Grabiel, commented that while the height of the proposed
building, at least in his opinion, seems more appropriate in this location (vs. the
one at the old theatre site), he wonders if a market still exists in Edina for more
condominiums. He pointed out over the past year the City has approved a
number of new residential condominium developments to include 22 units at the
corner of 50th/ France, 88 units at Gallagher Drive/France Avenue and 123 senior
units 70thi Metro. Mr. Beck responded he believes the market study indicates
support for the proposed project. He said in Edina there continues to be a need
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for alternative housing styles for residents who sell their single family homes and
want to stay in the community.
Commissioner Fischer pointed out the public realm works very well south
of this site; however, it becomes difficult to navigate once it approaches the
Galleria site. Commissioner Fischer stated he has no problem with the proposed
building height and believes it is appropriate in this location, adding this site also
appears to be a good location for a hotel. Continuing, Commissioner Fischer
pointed out, at least in his opinion, the proposal seems to internalize amenities.
The outdoor plaza area is clearly for the use of the condo residents and hotel
folks, but what the public appears to get is a ramped parking lot. Commissioner
Fischer said at least in his opinion the Southdale area is more about the public
realm, and improving the public realm, pointing out the proposed this evening
includes permanent housing. He added steps should be taken to improve the
public realm, and incorporate the proposal into that realm for the condominium
residents and Edina residents in general. Mr. Beck acknowledged the focus of
the development team centered on the eastern portion of the site, acknowledging
the team didn't really consider the long term aspect of the residents of the
condominium Continuing, Mr. Beck said the linear roadway easement running
through the greater Southdale area was planned in 1972, before the
reconfiguration of the Galleria. H pointed out the last expansion of the Galleria
occurred at the time Centennial Lakes was developed, with more attention given
to vehicle transportation (tram) to "join" the sites. Mr. Beck stated if he
understands correctly Commissioner Fischer's comments appear to be more
about pedestrian traffic, acknowledging that is an important aspect that the team
will need to take another look at. Mr. Beck added he believes that interaction can
be enhanced. Concluding, Mr. Beck said their goal is to be sensitive to the long
term residents who will reside on this site.
Commissioner Schroeder said his biggest problem with the proposal is it
appears the "best" part of the building addresses the parking lot, not the street.
Commissioner Schroeder suggested "dressing up" the building as it addresses
the street. Commissioner Schroeder asked what is there really for the pedestrian
and vehicle traffic to view if the best part of the building is hidden from public
view. Commissioner Schroeder acknowledged the ramp aspect of the proposal
as it reaches out to West 70th Street is difficult; however, in his opinion, reaching
out to the street would be a real advantage in revitalizing public activity in the
public realm of Southdale. Mr. Beck explained their position is difficult because
in a sense this is going from suburban to urban, adding the City ordinances relate
to suburban developments, not urban. Concluding, Mr. Beck said the team
would entertain that idea.
Commissioner Lonsbury noted he has some comments on traffic but
would save those for the formal presentation.
Chair Byron said this is the Commissions first read on the project, adding
he would like to see a more detailed description of how they are pulling together
the proposed new building with the existing Galleria shopping center, especially
as it relates to the ramp and pedestrian connection. Continuing, Chair Byron
said he has a number of issues he would like addressed at the formal
presentation to include; internal traffic flow, mid -block uncontrolled intersection
may not be appropriate if this proposal proceeds, impact of proposal on existing
infrastructure, will parking be adequate, hotel tax district, and the importance of
the transit spine and greenway. Chair Byron questioned the hotel tax and what
the tax would be used for. Chair Byron said it would be a benefit if the hotel tax
could be used for the transit spine and greenway area Continuing, Chair Byron
noted to the best of his knowledge Target is also on the verge of remodeling. He
pointed out there appears to be a lot going on in the greater Southdale area and
the challenge is how do we (City and merchants) come together and figure out
the answer to the shuttle and the greening. Chair Byron said he hates to see
these forward looking proposals while "we" the City is failing to deal with the
greenway and transit spine. Chair Byron stated there should be a long term
solution formulated by the City for the future condo owners wishing to go to
Southdale. Chair Byron suggested that the areas business leaders also help the
City. Mr. Beck acknowledged the Southdale study is an important first step to
change or solve the issues; however, an important step is identifying the issues.
Chair Byron pointed out the Corridor study puts forward the issues that face the
City, adding this project has a role to play. Mr. Beck said he appreciates all the
comments, and the City should continue an ongoing dialogue with all property
owners in the area.
Commissioner Grabiel said this is the chicken egg question. Gabbert &
Beck is the position to possibly help redevelop this area. Commissioner Grabiel
suggested that all area merchants get together and "jump on the bandwagon."
He added this project is in a unique position to influence the direction of area
redevelopment. Concluding, Commissioner Grabiel said this is a great
opportunity for Gabbert & Beck to help themselves, the City and community,
adding at first glance he likes the project and thinks it is appropriate.
Commissioner Fischer commented in his opinion this line of discussion is
exactly right -on. He said at this time the City has a unique opportunity, pointing
out many communities develop long range plans for their cities and wait for those
plans to materlize. Edina, however, has the luxury that at this time there are
three or four major redevelopment proposals in the process and/or near future
coming to us. Continuing, Commissioner Fischer noted individually the
proposals are great, but looking at them in a complete way would be better.
Commissioner Fischer said it would be great if the developers would get together
to brainstorm with regard to the bigger picture; however, how can the City make
that happen. Concluding, Commissioner Fischer stated Edina has a unique
opportunity to consider these projects.
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Mr. Beck acknowledged the process is difficult and in an ideal world area
merchants could get together to formulate a united redevelopment scenario, but
in the real world it is hard to do.
Chair Byron thanked Mr. Beck for his presentation, adding the
Commission looks forward to their formal presentation.
LD-05-8
Gassedelen and McLenighan
5509 and 5513 Highland Road
Lot Division
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proposed lot division would
transfer a triangular piece of property from 5513 Highland Road to 5509 Highland
Road. The division is requested to make an existing hedge part of the 5509
Highland Road property. It appears the property owner at 5509 Highland Road
planted and has maintained the hedge.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the lot division. Both
Tots continue to conform following the division.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend lot division approval.
Commissioner Schroeder seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
III. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 PM