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MINUTES
OF THE WORK SESSION OF THE
EDINA CITY COUNCIL I
HELD AT WARREN HYDE CLUBHOUSE
AT THE BRAEMAR GOLF COURSE
JANUARY 13,1998 - 6:OO P.M.
ROLLCALL Answering rollcall were Members Faust, Hovland, Kelly, Maetzold and Mayor Smith.
Mayor Smith stated the Council Work Session will include a summary review of the development
proposals received for the Kunz Lewis site as well as a variety of community issues.
Manager Rosland explained he planned to propose a list of issues and questions for review and
discussion:
Should the City pursue the construction of a ”community center” or a ”community
activities building” which incorporates, gyms, an aquatic center and/or a senior center? If
so, is the Kunz Lewis site the location for such a facility.
Is there need for additional gym space for community sponsored athletics? If so, how
should the gyms be provided? Do any of development proposals received for the Kunz
Lewis site provide an opportunity to provide such gyms?
Should the City provide an indoor aquatics center, possibly with 50 meter competitive
swimming pool? Is such a concept included in any of the development proposals?
Should the City relocate and upgrade its Senior Center by 1) constructing a facility
adjacent to the Southdale YMCA, 2) constructing a facility adjacent to the existing
Community Center, or 3) purchasing and upgrading a free standing building?
Should the City construct or purchase a new City Hall and/or Police Station? If so, is the
Kunz Lewis property a desirable site for such a facility?
If the Kunz Lewis property is not used for a community/activity center or for a City Hall
facility, should it be developed with the WMEP school?
Manager Rosland informed the Council that various staff members had researched certain issues and
would present their findings during the work session.
Park Director Keprios presented results of a survey taken of City owned indoor facilities, and
contrasted these with facilities currently available in Edina. He added that he and Ed MacHolda
visited facilities in the following communities: Brooklyn Center, Brooklyn Park, Chanhassen, Chaska,
Crystal, Eden Prairie, Maple Grove, Maplewood, New Brighton, Rosemount, and Shoreview; and
summarized the amenities available at each facilities. The amenities surveyed included: Community
/Banquet Room, Meeting Rooms, Theater, Arts/Crafts Room, Kitchen, Exercise/Fitness Room, Teen
Center, Senior Center, Child Care/Day Care Center, Gymnasiums, Indoor Child’s Playground
Center, Ice Arenas, Leisure Pool, and Competition or Lap Pool. While Edina does not offer all these
amenities at one facility, it offers most except for the Teen Center and Child Care/Daycare.
Ed MacHolda presented results of a gymnasium study showing the total current weekly usage at 209
hours. The total desired weekly usage is for 304 hours leaving a shortage of 95 hours per week. Mr.
MacHolda explained that if the City does not add gymnasium space the options available are to:
enlarge teams - increase team size
double up traveling team practices
play on weekends (Friday, Saturday and Sunday - staff avdability/overtime costs)
cut back or eliminate adult programs.
He added that in his opinion the City should ask the School District if they are addressing the need
€or additional gym space.
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Assistant City Manager Hughes reviewed the Senior Center Alternatives:
Construct new Senior Center adjacent to Southdale YMCA - Cost $1.4 to $1.7 million,
Construct new Senior Center adjacent to the existing Community Center - Cost $1.4 to $1.7
million,
Construct or acquire freestanding Senior Center - Costs unknown, or
Maintain current location in the Community Center.
Manager Rosland reviewed the potential options for a City Hall Police Department:
City Hall remodeled, new Police facility constructed off-site - $5,792,000,
City Hall and Police Department expanded on current site - $3,842,000, or
New City Hall and Police Department at different location - $6,691,000.
Assistant Manager Hughes reviewed briefly the thirteen development proposals received for the
Kunz Lewis site:
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Common Bond/CSM Corporation/Rottland Homes
0
0 Purchase Price: not defined
0 NewTaxes: unknown
Duke Realty Investments
0
0 Purchase Price: $1,835,000
0 New Taxes: $645,000 annually
Edina Schools/WMEP
0
0 Purchase Price: $2,795,000
0
Edina Schools/Wh4EP/ Jerry's Enterprises
0
0
0 New Taxes: $385,000 annually
Frauenshuh Companies
0 Concept: 128,200 square feet office, 22,000 square feet retail, 90 condominium
apartments, 24 townhouse units and 36 single level condominium apartments, 1 acre
park, comunity building and wading pool. Project includes several parcels in
addition to RFP Site.
Purchase Price: $6,241,427 includes RFP site. Price for RFP site not specified.
Concept: Office, 120 Unit Hotel, Retail and 40-60 units of senior housing, medium and
high density residential. Project includes several parcels in addition to RFP site.
Concept: 150,000 square feet office (2 buildings)
Concept: Magnet School (K-6) - 80,000 to 90,000 square feet
New Taxes: <$106,745> property tax exempt
Concept: 119,000 square feet of magnet school and bus garage, 18,400 square feet
retail, 82,500 square feet office space
Purchase Price: HRA site: $2,250,000 (project includes purchase of school bus site by
HRA/JerrY's)
0
0 New Taxes: $1,767,864 annually
Jeanna L. French
0 Concept: 80,000 square feet including office, medical office, photo studio and health
club
0 Purchase Price: $1,425,000
0 New Taxes: $293,244 annually
Hartford Financial Services
0
0 Purchase Price: $2,796,000
0 New Taxes: $605,000 annually
LaNel Financial Group
0
e Purchase Price: $1,000,000
Concept: 240 unit "luxury" rental apartments, 22,500 square feet day care/office
Concept: 105 unit senior housing project
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e New Taxes: $155,755 annually
Laurent/ Parks Development
e Concept:
restaurant
6 office buildings (10,000 - 50,000 square feet each) 3,600 square foot
e New Taxes: $515,000 annually IO
Namron Company
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e New Taxes: $393,255 annually
Ron Clark Construction
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Concept: 200 units rental apartments (2 buildings)
Purchase Price: Pay based upon independent appraisal of property
Concept: 3 alternatives 1) 92 active senior apartment and 30 for-sale townhomes, 2) 70
for-sale townhomes/underground garages, 3) 46 for-sale townhomes/ on-grade
parking
Purchase Price: 1) $2,040,000,2) $1,540,000 or 3) $1,128,000
New Taxes: 1) 300,000,2) $305,000 or 3) $200,000 annually
Concept: 105 high end rental townhomes
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Stuart Companies
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e New Taxes: $155,000 annually
TOLD Development
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e Purchase Price: $1,500,000
e Purchase Price: $1,020,000
Concept: 126,000 to 162,000 square feet office (3 buildings)
e New Taxes: $525,000 to $700,000 annually
Manager Rosland shared his view of the issues .before the Council. He suggested not using the Kunz
Lewis site for a senior center, but to go with the Southdale YMCA. Make sure the center is named the
Edina Senior Center to retain the community identity. If the decision for the senior center is not to go
with the YMCA then perhaps use the Morningside Montessori property. Using the existing
Community Center would not solve the parking and accessibility issues. Building on the
Morningside property would mean the operating expenses would need to be born by the City instead
of the Y.
Manager Rosland suggested the current City Hall could be remodeled using reserves and a new
Police Station be proposed via a referendum for another location.
He added that any WMEP proposal should incorporate the bus garage and possibly Jerry's, but also
some partnership with the City for gymnasium space and perhaps even a theater, under the City's
control for programming. In conclusion, Manager Rosland pointed out that whatever proposal is
located on the Kunz Lewis property a partnership with the City be sought to meet some of the
community needs.
The Council asked questions of staff and discussed the advantages and disadvantages of the
proposals. Mayor Smith asked Council members for their opinions on the issues to see if any
consensus could be achieved.
Member Maetzold stated he thought the bus garage should be included as part of the overall
development plan and that a teen center is needed. Look at all the needs identified, and decide
which can be met using the Kunz Lewis property. Member Maetzold agreed that more information
regarding the potential WMEP proposal is needed, but he added he wants to know the Edina Schools
position also.
Member Kelly stated he believes the Council needs to review the list to see what are truly needs, then
prioritize the list. Member Kelly agreed with the Mayor that more information is needed and that one
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or more public components may be able to be satisfied on the Kunz Lewis property. Member Kelly
stated he would find most attractive a comprehensive proposal involving more than the Kunz Lewis
property. If necessary public acquisition could be pursued.
Member Paust agreed with Manager Rosland's summarization of issues and potential responses.
Member Faust noted the Grandview area already has a large amount of senior and rental housing.
She also would like more information from the schools.
Member Hovland stated the Council must decide what is the best use of the Kunz Lewis property for
the City of Edina. He believes more information is needed especially from the School District before
any decision is made.
Mayor Smith stated he does not think the Kunz Lewis property is the best site for a community center
or a senior center. He suggested creativity with developers could help meet our needs. The
development of this property must meet global needs of the community. More information is needed
especially from the schools specifically WMEP before making a judgment. He sees a need to look at a
broader picture than just the Kunz Lewis site.
Council directed staff to approach the schools and set up a joint work session to gather more
information about the WMEP proposal and the School District's position.
There being no further business on the Council Agenda, Mayor Smith declared the meeting
adjourned at 9:35 P.M.
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