HomeMy WebLinkAbout2001-01-16 Council Regular MeetingMINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA CITY COUNCIL
HELD AT CITY HALL
JANUARY 16,2001 - 200 P.M.
ROLLCALL Answering rollcall were Members Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, and Chair
Maetzold.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS APPROVED Motion made by Member Masica and
seconded by Member Hovland approving the Council Consent Agenda with the exception
of Agenda Item 1V.A. Traffic Safety Report of January 9,2001, and Agenda Item W.D. Set
Board of Review Date for April 16,2001, at 5:OO P.M.
Rollcall:
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
RESOLUTION OF COMMENDATION - EDINA HIGH SCHOOL 2000 GIRLS SWIM
AND DIVE TEAM Mayor Maetzold commended the Edina High School 2000 Girls Swim
and Dive Team on their State, Classic Lake Conference, and Section Championships. Motion
made by Member Kelly introduced the following resolution and moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 2001-08
RESOLUTION OF COMMENDATION
EDINA HIGH SCHOOL
2000 GIRLS’ SWIMMING & DIVING TEAM
WHEREAS, the members of the Edina High School 2000 Girls’ Swimming and
Diving Team were Champions of the Classic Lake Conference, Section Champions and
State Champions; and
WHEREAS, success has come to the members of the Team because of their
extraordinary ability, hours of practice and the leadership of their coaches; and
WHEREAS, as representatives of the City of Edina, the members of the Team
exemplified the highest standards of athletic proficiency and good sportsmanship.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Edina City Council that
congratulations be extended to the members of the Team:
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Courtney Green Diane Cederberg Traci Bergo, Head Coach
Katherine Kolles Carly Miller Jeff Mace, Asst. Coach
Katie Massopust Abigail Ruess Mellanie Pusateri, JV Coach
Alicia McDonald Lindsay Somrock Karin Tellekson, Asst. Coach
Jamie Mitchell Laine Litman Katie Grinnell, Diving Coach
Amanda Weddle Nina Cole
Courtney Woodhull Carolyn Barer
Elizabeth Youngblood
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this resolution be recorded in the Minutes of the Edina
City Council and that copies be given to members of the Team.
Member Housh seconded the motion.
ADOPTED this 16th day of January, 2001.
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Rollcall:
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
PRELIMINARY PLAT DENIED FOR 5343 INTERLACHEN AND 5012 OXFORD AVENUE
Affidavits of Notice were presented, approved and ordered placed on file.
Staff Presentation
Planner Larsen explained the subject property comprises three single dwelling lots all zoned
R-1, Single Dwelling Unit district. There are two houses located on the properties. Total area
of the three lots is 0.61 acres or 26,572 feet. The Comprehensive Plan designates the
properties as Single Farnily.
Mr. Larsen reported the Planning Commission reviewed a five-lot, zero lot line development
of the subject property at their November 1,2000, meeting. The proposal was reviewed under
multi-family zoning standards, and would have required a rezoning of the property. After
the November 1,2000, hearing the request was withdrawn. The proponent then submitted a
revised four-lot conventional plat, for the November 20, 2000, meeting. The Planning
Commission recommended approval of the preliminary plat. However, after the meeting it
was discovered that errors were made in data representing the 500-foot neighborhood, which
required that the Planning Commission hear the request a second time.
Revised median numbers for lots within the 500 foot neighborhood surrounding the
proposed subdivision are as follows:
Lot Width
75 feet
Lot Depth -
136 feet
Lot Area
9,750 sq. ft.
Lots within the proposed subdivision have the following dimensions and areas.
Lot 1 - 48.69 feet*
Lot 2 - 50 feet:*
Lot 3 - 50 feet*
Lot 4 - 50 feet*
133 feet*
133 feet*
133 feet*
132 feet*
6,493 sq. ft.*
6,659 sq. ft.*
6,659 sq. ft.*
6,638 sq. ft.*
* requires a variance
Mr. Larsen added that although all of the lots require variances, in his opinion, the
development would fit the neighborhood. The most important measure, lot width, fits the
development pattern of the Brookside Heights neighborhood. The numbers are skewed
because the subject property is at the edge of the neighborhood causing the larger lots to the
north and west to become part of the formula. The best way to ensure that the new houses
are compatible in size and scale with the existing homes is to provide a similar lot width. The
one and a half story homes the developer intends to build would be compatible. Mr. Larsen
added that reducing the plat to three lots would not eliminate the variances completely, but
would most likely result in three homes larger than the typical home in Brookside Heights.
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The Planning Commission reconsidered the proposed subdivision at their January 3, 2001,
meeting. After receiving the revised data relating to the neighborhood median values for lot
width, lot depth, and lot area; and hearing testimony from staff and neighbors; the
Commission recommended denial of the proposed subdivision.
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Member Hovland asked what the existing setback was from 5343 Interlachen Boulevard and
whether drainage was an issue in that area. Mr. Larsen replied the setback is approximately
50 feet and that Interlachen is the dividing line between two watershed districts 9-Mile Creek
and Minnehaha Creek. He added that although the preliminary review was not completely
satisfactory, the City Engineer felt the drainage issues could be worked out.
Member Masica asked why staff would support smaller homes on smaller lots. Mr. Larsen
explained that the subject property was more closely related to the Brookside Heights
neighborhood. He said the proposed houses would blend well with homes existing on
Bedford, adding that with smaller lots controlling the size of the houses would be possible.
Member Kelly asked if any specific hardship had been identified to justify the necessary
varinaces. Mr. Larsen replied that no specific hardship had been identified.
Member Hovland asked if the City could control whether the homes built were one or two
stories and what the setback would be for the corner lots. Mi. Larsen replied that normally
the number of stories cannot be controlled. However, because of the required variances
conditions could be imposed on the homes in this instance. The setback for corner lots would
be 15 feet each way.
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Proponent Presentation
Jeff Schoenwetter, JMS Development, 5232 Ridgewood Drive, said his company is looking for
approval of a four-lot subdivision for two properties currently improved with two single
family homes. He noted that originally their request was for a five-site PUD, but they have
since changed their request to something he believed would be quite consistent with the
neighborhood. Mi. Schoenwetter stated that he could raze the existing homes and apply for
three building permits, but he would rather go through with the plat because he believed it
would be a better fit for the neighborhood.
Mr. Schoenwetter graphically showed the existing homes on the property, several existing
setbacks on Interlachen, and renderings of the proposed homes for the site. He urged the
Council to approve his proposal stating that he had extensively worked with City staff and
the Planning Commission. He assured the Council that a drainage plan could be engineered
that would be acceptable by both watershed districts, the City and the neighbors. He
acknowledged the neighborhood’s concern, but re-iterated that his proposal was a thoughtful
solution to the needed renewal of the subject property. Mr. Schoenwetter urged the Council
to approve his preliminary plat as presented.
Member Housh asked what variances would be required for the proposed plat. Mr. Larsen
answered that each of the four lots would need variances for lot width, lot depth and lot area.
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I Member Hovland commented that he believed that less than four homes would still work in
the area. Mi. Schoenwetter adamantly disagreed stating that it would not be financially
feasible to build the homes if the lot cost would have to be increased by 33%.
Public Comment
Sharon Ming, 4110 Sunnyside Boulevard, stated she had served on the Edina Human
Relations Commission for over ten years and has lived in Edina for 20 years. Ms. Ming said
she believed Edina lacked affordable housing. One way to fulfill this need would be approval
of higher density housing.
Member Housh asked what the potential prices are planned for the proposal. Mi.
Schoenwetter replied the homes start at $100 per square foot and will be well under $300,000.
Robert Diehl, 4816 Vandervork Avenue questioned the prices of the proposed homes.
Member Hovland asked was side-lot setbacks are required. Mr. Larsen replied the side yard
setbacks start at five feet and then increase if there is a second story on a home, by */2 foot for
each foot over fifteen feet.
Member Masica commented that she thought the entire residential community needed
consideration when evaluating a proposed subdivision. She expressed concern that the
proposed subdivision did not meet the goals set forth in the City’s 20/20 Vision.
Member Kelly complimented Member Mascia for her quick understanding of Edina’s vision.
He added he could see no hardships or compelling reason to approve the plat as presented.
In addition, Member Kelly expressed his disappointment that the plat had been presented in
its present form.
Member Housh stated that as a new Council member he would be inclined to put his faith in
the Planning Commission’s recommendation. He complimented the developer for the
desi,- of the proposed homes, stating that while he could possibly approve a Mot
development, he did not believe four lots were appropriate to the site.
Member Hovland said he would like to see the property re-developed. He also commended
the developer, but agreed that the current proposal is not right. The neighbors are telling us
the density is too high. The site does not meet the standards for hardship. Four lots would be
too much for the site. The Council must look at the City‘s code when reviewing subdivisions
and those guidelines compel him to say no to four lots.
Mayor Maetzold agreed that he would not be in favor of the subdivision as proposed.
Member Hovland made a motion to close the public hearing, seconded by Member Kelly. I Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
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Member Kelly made a motion denying the Preliminary Plat Approval request for 5343
Interlachen and 5012 Oxford Avenue. Member Hovland seconded the motion.
Rollcall:
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
Mayor Maetzold acknowledged that persons in attendance wanted to speak. He noted the
hearing had been closed and the preliminary plat denied. He told the public they would be
allowed to speak briefly.
Richard Miller, 5340 Hollywood Road requested that his letter of January 2, 2001, to the
Edina Planning Commission be noted on file as well as his neighbor Mr. Peter Leenders of
5317 Hollywood Road. Mayor Maetzold acknowledged receipt of the letters and noted they
would be on file at City Hall.
Peter Leenders, 5317 Hollywood Road expressed his disappointment over the proposed
subdivision.
Linda Bofenkamp, 5332 Hollywood Road stated her concern over the proposed setback from
Interlachen Boulevard. She asked that the integrity of the boulevard be maintained no matter
what is proposed for the subject property.
Carolyne Bisson, 5340 Hollywood Road, presented a petition signed by property owners on
Oxford Avenue, Hollywood Road, Interlachen Boulevard, Blossom Court, Bedford Avenue,
Vandervork Avenue, Orchard Lane, and Mirror Lakes Drive, objecting to the proposed
subdivision. Ms. Bisson added she had requested an environmental assessment worksheet
from the Environmental Quality Board on behalf of the Interlachen Neighborhood
Homeowners Association.
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"BID AWARDED FOR 3/4 TON CARGO VAN FOR THE EDINA LIOUOR STORES
Motion made by Member Masica and seconded by Member Hovland for award of bid for
a 3/4 ton van for the Liquor Stores to Falls Automotive under Hennepin County Contract
#0543AO at $15,756.00.
Motion carried on rollcall vote - five ayes.
*BID AWARDED FOR FAIRWAY GRASS MOWER FOR THE BRAEMAR GOLF
COURSE Motion made by Member Masica and seconded by Member Housh approving
the award of bid for a fairway grassmower for Braemar Golf Course to MTI Distributing,
Inc., under State of Minnesota Contract #425965 at $17,311.58.
Motion carried on rollcall vote - five ayes.
TRAFFIC SAFETY STAFF REVIEW OF JANUARY 9,2001, APPROVED Member Masica
asked that the Traffic Safety Staff Review of January 9, 2001, be removed from the consent I agenda and commented that cut-through traffic issues are a top priority in her estimation.
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Member Kelly made a motion approving the Traffic Safety Staff Review of January 9,
2001, Section A, B, and C. Member Housh seconded the motion. I Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
ON-SALE LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP APPROVED FOR BIG
BOWL RESTAURANT Manager Hughes explained that Big Bowl, Inc., dba/Big Bowl Cafe
in the Galleria was one of the original on-sale intoxicating liquor licensees and was under
corporate ownership of Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises, LLC and Brinker International,
with each having a 50% ownership. City Code requires a new application be filed when
changes of more than 10% occur in the corporate ownership. Appropriate applications have
been submitted and all applicable fees paid from Brinker International.
The Planning Department reviewed the application and finds it in compliance with code
requirements. The Health Department is satisfied with the applicants' plan for storage and
service and the Police Department, upon investigation, found no negative findings.
Staff recommends approving an on-sale intoxicating liquor license and on-sale Sunday
license to Big Bowl, Inc., under the corporate ownership of Brinker Restaurant Corporation
dba/Big Bowl Cafe beginning January 17,2001 to March 31,2001.
I Member Kelly made a motion approving an on-sale intoxicating liquor license and an on-
sale Sunday license to Big Bowl, Inc., under the corporate ownership of Brinker Restaurant
Corporation, dba/Big Bowl Caf6 beginning January 17, 2001 to March 31,2001. Member
Hovland seconded the motion.
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE UPDATE PRESENTED; HEARING DATE SET OF
FEBRUARY 15,2001 Bob Christianson, Chair of the Blue Ribbon Committee, commended the
Committee for their diligent efforts. He explained the Committee could not have
accomplished what they did without the skill expended from Director Keprios and Assistant
Director MacHolda.
Director Keprios explained that TSP One, Inc., Architects as well as Anderson Johnson
Engineers were in attendance and prepared to answer questions, but had not prepared a
formal presentation. He added they were prepared to show site plans if the Council desired.
Director Keprios described the process that has been ongoing since late 1999. The City and
School District determined they should work together to provide public faciIities for
community use. Decision Resources conducted a telephone survey to determine if support
existed for such a project. The survey determined there would be community support for the
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The Council formed the Blue Ribbon Committee consisting of following eleven citizen
members:
Bob Christianson - Chair
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Jeff Bohlig - Member at Large
Mary Brindle - Member at Large
Ted Brinkman - Athletic Booster Club
Kris Hayes - Normandale French Immersion
Doug Johnson - Edina Public School District
Chuck Mooty - Edina Park Board
Linda Presthus - Edina Park Board
Dan Rectenwald - Edina Community Center - Neighborhood Resident
Ann Swenson - Edina Planning Commission
Jim VanValkenburg - Senior Citizen Advisory Committee
The Blue Ribbon Committee's mission was as follows:
1. What is the need for additional gymnasiums, soccer fields and auditoriums in the
City?
2. What other needs should be addressed?
3. Is there an opportunity to work with Edina Public Schools to meet the City's
recreational needs? If so, how should such an arrangement be structured?
4. Are there other partnerships that should be made to provide recreational facilities?
5. Is it appropriate for some or all of the facilities to be located on school district
property ?
6. Will the recommended package of facilities and improvements be acceptable to the
community?
The Committee began meeting in September. The information-gathering process included:
Thirteen committee meetings and one park and school tour of
East Campus (ECC, South View and Concord)
West Campus (High School and Valley View)
Arneson Acres Park
Braemar Park
Cornelia School Park
Countryside Park
Garden Park
Meetings began on Thursday - September 14,2000
Committee met over seventeen weeks for a total of 60 hours
Committee heard 30 presentations
Last meeting held January 4,2001
Letters of invitation were mailed to community groups and individuals asking for input in
writing and attendance at a Blue Ribbon Committee meeting to present program needs and
desires. Community groups and individuals that were invited included:
Performing - Arts - Diana LeLand/School District Music & Performing Arts; Jan
Michaletz, Schools Booster Club for Music & Performing Arts; Doug Johnson, Director of
Community Education Services
Edina Senior Citizen Activities Center - Leon Lander and Kay Bach/Senior Center
Advisory Committee; Pat Mackey, Architect
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Enterprise - Facilities - Diana Hedges/ Art Center; Larry Thayer/ Arena; Ed
Gymnasium and Athletic Field Shortage - Assistant Park Director MacHolda
General Park Infrastructure - Park Director Keprios
Athletic Field Turf Maintenance - Vince Cockriel/Park Maintenance; John Hopko/
New and Renovated Athletic Fields - Anderson/ Johnson, Inc., Landscape Architects
I MacHolda/ Aquatic Center
Agronomist & Turf Specialist; Jim Knazek - Artificial Turf Specialist
TSP ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, INC.:
Studied scenarios for new and renovated ,oymnasiums at various locations
0 Previously studied and validated the need for renovation of the South View
Middle School competition pool
Presented concept drawings for replacement of the Valley View Middle School
competition pool
Presented concept drawings for renovation of ECC auditorium
YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS:
0 Junior Olympic Volleyball Association
Basketball Association (in-house)
Basketball Association (traveling)
Girls Basketball (traveling)
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Soccer Association (in-house)
Soccer Club (traveling)
Football Association
Baseball Association
Youth Softball Association
Girls Fastpitch Softball
0 Braemar City of Lakes Figure Skating Club
EdinaSwimClub
OTHERYOUTH AND ADULT ATHLETIC GROUPS
0 Donna Hanbery - Adult Soccer
Ed MacFadden - Girls and Boys Lacrosse
0 Marvin Goldstein - Edina Athletic Boosters Club
0 Mike Madden - Girls and Boys Rugby
Ed MacHolda, Assistant Director - Adult Basketball and Adult Soccer
0 Donna Tilsner, Recreation Supervisor - Adult Softball and Adult Volleyball
0 Steve Dove - Edina High School Athletic Director
Girls Athletic Association (basketball, volleyball, flag football, team tennis)
SUPERINTENDENT DRAGSETH FIRST PRESENTED SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS AS
School District facility needs and setting a timehe
New law mandates for Kuhlman Stadium bleachers
0 School district trends (enrollment growth, increased use of facilities and aging
infrastructure)
Second presentation addressed priori@ locations of new mans and identified needs:
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On-going capital improvement plan
Compliance with City/State fire code regarding fire suppression and compliance
with the Americans with Disabilities Act
Kuhlman bleachers must meet mandated code by January 1,2002
Renovation of certain fields and facilities for health and safety of participants
Renovation of some aging fields, gymnasiums and pools
New additional fields and gymnasiums to accommodate current and future
athletic programs
Increase the number of competition pool lanes/ times (school and community)
Need for program registration and scheduling computer software
Need for indoor multi-purpose athletic field (bubble) for a variety of uses (physical
education classes, baseball, football, walking/ jogging, flag football, rugby)
If a bubble is deemed unacceptable, the gymnasium number would increase
Numerous residents rent indoor athletic field time in other communities (need for a
bubble in Edina)
Need for new furnishings for Senior Center
Improve access to existing park shelter building facilities
Increase parking at Edina Community Center campus
Need for more non-traditional recreation opportunities for youth (skate park)
Increase number of track lanes for school use and community expansion of programs
Renovation of existing work general park infrastructure
Need for additional pottery classroom space
Need to provide more indoor performing arts facilities and renovate existing worn ECC
auditorium
Need to provide heating and dehuddification for Braemar East Arena
PROTECTS RECOMMENDED BY BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE: (not in order of priority)
Performing and Visual Arts
Provide separate entrance for community to auditorium
Reduce seating to accommodate 630 people
Upgrade lighting and sound system
New Black Box Theater (west campus)
Intimate performing arts theater for smaller audiences of 10 to 250 people
Replace Worn Infrastructure:
General Park Facilities:
Replace playground equipment at seven parks
Replace Bredesen Park perimeter fencing
Replace concessions building/maintenance garage at Courtney Fields
Replace roofs at Arneson and Bredesen Parks
Rebuild tennis court at Walnut Ridge
Upgrade pump house building at Sherwood Park
Repair pathways (Arneson, Rosland, Cornelia, Walnut Ridge Parks)
Replace windows and siding on Arneson Acres Park building
Replace Showmobile
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New General Park Infrastructure
Provide indoor furnishings at Senior Center
Repair parking lots in three parks
Develop tri-city skate park
Complete Van Valkenburg neighborhood park
Purchase registration system for athletic/community programs
Add safety fencing at Rosland Park playground
Add keyless entry access system to fourteen park buildings
Sanitary sewer lift station for Arneson Acres Greenhouse restrooms
Shade covers for baseball/softball field dugouts (sun protection)
Outdoor lighting for three Pamela Park softball fields
Aquatic Center:
Accomplish master plan
Replace worn slide with two new flumes (separate plunge pool)
Replace a one meter diving board with cable ride
Raise the depth of lap pool to five feet
Provide better user access to main pool
New deck showers and deck expansion
Provide fire suppression for Braemar West
Relocate ice resurfacing room
Heating and dehumidification upgrade
Pottery room expansion
Fire suppression system
Clark gLft shop expansion
Renovation of existing gyms:
Braemar Arena:
Artcenter:
Gymnasiums:
ECC large gym and lobby
ECC small gym
South View Middle School gym bleachers and wood floors
One new gym at Concord Elementary
One new gym at South View Middle School
Two new gyms at Valley View Middle School, locker room/
concession stand
Addition of four new gyrns:
Athletic Fields:
Additional new athletic fields:
Artificial turf installed at Kuhlman Field
Artificial turf installed at South View Middle Fields
Two new multi-purpose athletic fields (football/lacrosse/
rugby/soccer/ultimate frisbee) lower level high school
One new multi-purpose athletic field - Creek Valley School
Two new softball fields - lower level high school
Convert adult softball field to intermediate baseball field -
Cornelia School Park
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Renovate worn athletic fields (regrade, seed, irrigation and drainage)
Six baseball fields
Nine multi-purpose athletic fields
Two softball fields
0 Upgrade/ Improvement of Existing Stadium:
State law mandates replacement of Kuhlman Stadium home and
visitor bleachers
Upgrade/replace lighting at stadium
New storage space under permanent bleachers
New plaza to include new entrance gate, concessions area,
restrooms and press box
0 UpgradelNew Athletic Facilities at Kuhlman:
Increase track lanes from six to eight lanes
Tennis court spectator seating
Install artificial turf to encourage multiple users of multi-purpose
athletic field
Kuhlman Stadium:
0 Competition Swimming - Pools:
Renovate South View Middle School Pool
Improve ventilation and filtration systems
Meet current pool health and safety codes
New 25m x 25yd pool with L shaped diving area
New locker rooms
New concession stand
Replace Valley View Middle School Pool
Indoor Athletic Field (Bubble):
Air-supported white colored fabric that covers the artificial turf field
inside new expanded track at Kuhlman Stadium
Bubble goes up in November - down in March
Potential revenue generating facility
Reduces need for additional gyms (need only 4 versus 5-6 new gyms)
WHY LOCATE INDOOR ATHLETIC FIELD AT KUHLMAN STADIUM?
0 Kuhlman must have artificial turf to allow community access
0 Adjacent to schools would maximize use
Storage available under bleachers for fabric
0 Security fencing already in place
0 210 feet wide, 380 feet long and 65 feet high
Least expensive site versus alternative site
0 Lewis Park (would need security fencing, artificial turf but not close to
school)
0 ECC Middle Field (too close to residents, field too small, needs higher
fencing)
0 Valley View Middle School Baseball Field (needs road and parking lot,
artificial turf, security fencing, field is too small)
OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR BUBBLE:
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Braemar Park at Former Gun Range site (needs extensive grading, artificial
turf, additional parking, security fencing, not close to school, site currently
planned for Police/Fire Training Facility)
Mr. Keprios asked if the Blue Ribbon Committee accomplished its mission:
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0 What is the need for additional gymnasiums, soccer fields and an auditorium in
City?
Committee Recommendations:
4 new gymnasiums
Access to five new multi-purpose athletic fields
New Black Box Theater
Renovate or replace worn infrastructure
Provide new additional facilities based on demonstrated needs.
What other needs should be addressed?
0 Is there an opportunity to work with Edina Public Schools to meet the City's
recreational needs? (YFS) If so, how should such an arrangement be structured?
Committee Recommendations:
Recreational facilities on School District property should be operated/
maintained by School District
Recreational facilities on City property should be operated/maintained by City
Southdale YMCA (Skate Park, Gymnasiums)
Northwest Health Club (Midwest Health Club, Braemar Park Site)
0 Are there other partnerships that should be made to provide recreation facilities? I 0 Is it appropriate for some or all of the facilities to be located on school district
property?
All additional facilities, performing arts theater, gymnasiums, competition pool,
bubble and athletic fields should be located on school property because:
No additional costs
Additional costs to operate and maintain new gyms, theater and pool are
incremental additions,
0 Will the recornended package of facilities and improvements be acceptable to the
community?
Blue Ribbon Committee recommendations are responsive to groups and
individuals who provided input.
Mi. Keprios explained the Committee found it too difficult to determine the overall
cornunity support at this time. He added Decision Resources suggested the majority of the
community will support the proposal if there were no controversial projects.
Mr. Keprios explained several projects require further study to determine more accurate
construction costs, i.e.; gyms, pools, Black Box Theater, Coutney Fields building, etc. Based
on information received from various groups, the Blue Ribbon Committee has determined
their recommended projects to improve parks, programs and recreational facilities. The
estimated total cost of the recommended projects is approximately $37,121,600.00.
Projected Cost Breakdown
(not listed in order of priority)
Gymnasiums $8,120,600
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Athletic Fields 6,074,000
Indoor Athletic Facility (bubble) 969,000
Kuhlman Stadium 5,946,000
Competition Swimming Pool Needs 6,077,000
General Park Infrastructure 4,534,000
Performing/Visual Arts 2,985,000
Enterprise Facilities 2,416,000
TOTAL COST OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS $37,121,600
Director Keprios gave two tax impact scenarios for a referendum at $35,000,000 and at
$40,000,000. He suggested a timeline as follows:
February 6,2001
February 20,2001
February 20,2001 Public Hearing
March 6,2001
April 23,2001
May 16,2001 (WEDNESDAY) Referendum Date
Approve Joint Powers Agreement and Facilities Use Agreement
Joint Council/School Board Meeting
Council Approves Date, Amount and Scope of Referendum
Public Information Mailed to All Residents
Council comments
Mayor Maetzold suggested that discussion focus on two things, 1) general findings of the
panel and 2) the proposed timeline.
Member Kelly asked whether the Capital Improvement Plan could be funded through the
referendum. Attorney Gilligan noted the referendum would fund specified capital projects,
but not a reserve or capital improvement fund. Manager Hughes noted that a Capital
Improvement Plan for the entire City, was being developed. Member Kelly reminded the
Council that when this proposal was first discussed, it was purported there would be a
utility/maintenance savings. He asked if we are still operating under this understanding,
Director Keprios said yes, but the bubble may be an issue. Member Kelly said since most of
the project is on school property, when the use agreement is finalized, a clear case is made
that persons not enrolled in the Edina school system will have use of the facilities. He stated
the registration system should be a web-based design shared between the School District and
the City. Director Keprios said how this would work has yet to be determined. Member Kelly
voiced concern that the same problem would exist with the lower fields flooding with either
a bubble or regular fields. Director Keprios explained the natural turf fields would be 90%
sand and are purported to be ready for play within 20 minutes after a three inch rain.
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Member Hovland voiced concern with security, safety, parking and access issues to the
Community Center site. Director Keprios commented that the majority of people support the
auditorium design and concept. Parking concerns would be addressed by compromising the
existing field. Member Hovland inquired about the operating costs for the perfoming art
center. Director Keprios said that has not been discussed. Member Hovland asked if
discussions have been held about the Edina Swim Club being involved and in the sharing of
expenses on the proposed new pool. Director Keprios said they are aware their rents will
increase and were supportive. He added the school district would run the facilities and
maintain them. Any increase in fees would be their decision. Manager Hughes said
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historically that is the manner the City has operated under. Member Hovland asked if there
are any resources in the referendum not shared with the school district. Director Keprios
indicated if it is part of the referendum it would, by law, have to have community access.
Member Hovland asked specifically about the Black Box Theater. Director Keprios explained
some discussion has ensued with the difference of access during the school year and summer.
Member Hovland asked which proposed projects would generate a positive cash flow.
Director Keprios indicated the bubble and Aquatic Center would have the potential to be the
primary sources. Member Hovland asked if the bubble were profitable where would the
profit go. Director Keprios said that has not been discussed. Member Hovland asked if
decentralization of the gymnasiums effect the ability to raise funds for operating expenses.
Director Keprios said that has not been discussed. Bob Christianson said the Committee did
not detail operating costs, etc. They did not feel it was their charge and did not have time.
Member Hovland asked if a track is proposed in the bubble. Director Keprios said no but
nothing prohibits walkers/runners from using the bubble. Member Hovland inquired why
locker rooms were not included in Braemar Arena. Bob Christianson said the identified need
for locker rooms was for the Edina High School hockey program. The Committee felt the
public would not benefit from locker rooms.
Mayor Maetzold asked if the locker rooms could be used by figure skaters. Director Keprios
said is was unlikely the public would use the locker rooms.
Member Masica asked if it would add to the cost to add to the athletic campus at Braemar.
Director Keprios said it is possible but not preferred. Member Masica inquired when will' we
know if the Braemar area will be used for a fire/police training facility. Manager Hughes said
a decision should be forthcoming within the next few months. Member Masica asked if
establishing an athletic campus at Braemar is 'do-able'. Director Keprios answered yes.
Member Masica said currently parking is a concern at the Community Center. If activities
were going on at Kuhlman Field, the auditorium and Community Center, what parking
needs would be necessary. Director Keprios stated a parking and traffic study has not been
completed. He has in the past deferred questions about parking at the schools to the school.
Doug Johnson commented that like facilities, the bubble, has mostly pick-up/drop-off
pabons. The need for additional parking would be minimal. Parking studies show parking to
be inconvenient not inadequate during the day. At night with athletic activities parking is a
problem.
Bob Christianson stated he has cost figures of the four gym complex at Braemar and it would
cost twice as much to build and would not be located near a school. The Committee
concluded the fit with Braemar was not good. Member Masica said she is most concerned
with the impact of a bubble on the surrounding community:Director Keprios added the
bubble would be used 90% of the time for a practice facility not for competitions. It is
primarily used to practice summer sports during the winter. Manager Hughes explained that
the cost of the dome would be the same in any location. The one difference would be at
Braemar, a third artificial turf field would be necessary at a cost of $700,000 - $800,000.
Member Housh asked in a City referendum, what is the acid test regarding usage of the
facilities. Attorney GiIligan added the facilities do not need to be City owned but the
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community would need access. Member Housh asked what the City's use of the Black Box
Theater would be. Director Keprios said the Theater was proposed by the School District but
was looked upon by the Blue Ribbon Committee as a 'field of dreams'. No one group came
before the Committee with a presentation yet they realized there is a need for that type of
facility. Member Housh read in the material presented that the School District would support
the bubble if it was self-sustaining. He asked what the scenario would be if other
communities also built bubbles and the demand would decline. Director Keprios said that the
facilities use agreement would be in place and would be the School District's problem. He
suggested further study could be done by the Committee on where the bubble would be
located.
Mayor Maetzold asked if the Committee felt that any other parts of the project other than the
locker rooms would not be appropriate. Director Keprios said the Committee felt the Jan
Apple Memorial Gardens at the Art Center could be funded by the Garden Council. A center
island at Arneson Park did not stay in the project. Bob Christianson said a dance studio was
suggested within the Black Box Theater, the Committee viewed it as more appropriate for the
School District to fund. Manager Hughes said an indoor running track was deemed not
appropriate in its design.
Member Kelly voiced concern if the bubble were constructed at Braemar, would the School
District still want Kuhlman field constructed of artificial turf. Director Keprios said yes.
Manager Hughes said if the community would be allowed to use Kuhlman, it would need to
be constructed with artificial turf. Member Kelly indicated that Kuhlman field is the premier
soccer field in Edina in his estimation. He stated he believes the use agreement could be
problematic and may need a school advocate and City advocate to insure that residents who
do not have connection with the school would be represented.
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Member Housh suggested an advisory board could be established to oversee operations.
Director Keprios stated to the City's advantage a preliminary use agreement has been set up.
Doug Johnson said discussions have focused on two things, 1) defined 'booking' and 2) usage
times. There are also two parts to setting this system up, a 1) Joint Powers Agreement and 2)
Facility Use Agreement. Manager Hughes said the next thing on February 6,2001, would be
to review the Agreements and give feedback. Member Kelly recommended the Blue Ribbon
Committee peruse the Agreements and give suggestions. Bob Christianson commented the
committee might look at the Agreements in a business context but he believed the City
Attorney should be involved. Member Kelly said he personally could not give any opinion
on the Agreement, not knowing the inner workings of the Park Department. Member
Hovland commented that many persons, both lawyers and staff have worked on the
Agreement.
Mayor Maetzold asked the Council for a decision on when to hold a public hearing and how
to notice the public. Following a brief Council discussion, a public hearing was set for
Thursday February 15, 2001. Member Masica suggested noticing residents in a 1,000 foot
radius of Kuhlman Field about the public hearing.
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Member Masica made a motion setting a public hearing date of February 15, 2001, EO0
P.M., location to be determined, for Blue Ribbon Committee recommendations, and to
notice residents in a 1000 foot radius of Kuhlman Field of the hearing. Member Kelly
seconded the motion. I
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
Public comment
Bob Krengel, 405 Blake Road, pointed out a date in the Edina Sun Current was incorrect,
regarding the Blue Ribbon Committee meeting.
Gary Dorrian, 4708 West 60" Street, thanked the Committee and asked that more data on
massing, traffic, and marketing be made available to the public. Member Kelly explained the
City does not have final support for the multi-million dollar cost yet. Information will be
made available in advance of the public hearing. Manager Hughes added what is incumbent
is that information must be provided to the voter so that on May 16th the voter can make an
informed decision. Member Kelly suggested information be made available to the public
previous to the public hearing. Mr. Dorrian voiced concern with comments made regarding
fire safety at Braemar West. Director Keprios said the West Arena was built in the 1960's and
fire codes were different. It needs to be brought up to code. Member Housh said what he
hears Mr. Dorrian requesting numbers proving the necessity of the proposals. I David Krasno, 5607 Dalrymple Road, voiced concern with traffic, parking and safety on his
street.
Sam Roman, 4709 School Road, stated a mistake is being made if a mailing to each
household is not done regarding the public hearing.
JoEllen Deever, 5101 West 70", attended the Committee meetings where presentations were
made by every athletic organization known to man. She stated there is nothing underhanded
or devisive about the group and she was very impressed with all their work.
Correspondence received in favor of the referendum going forward were Creek Valley
School Teachers, 6401 Gleason Road; L. Ann Sullivan, 5845 Brookview Avenue; Ann Sheely,
5905 Grove Street; Edina Senior High School Teachers, 6754 Valley View Road; Teena Hatch,
PTSO President - Valley View; Normandale Elementary French Immersion School, 5701
Normandale Road Principal Dr. Harold Benson and Chair John Heer; Marde Olson, Valley
View Middle School PTSO; Made and Mark Olson, 5717 Londonderry Road; Concord
Elementary School Staff, 5900 Concord Avenue; Concord Site Council and Concord PTO
Board; Deborah K. Beltrand; Bert Ledder, 6709 Cheyenne Trail; South View Middle School,
Trevor R. Johnson, 4725 South View Lane; ScharIott and Charlie Gross, 4612 Cascade Lane.
Against the referendum going forward were Bette Cornstock; Harold and Lila Larson.
Against the location of the bubble at Kuhlman Field were James and Virginia Anderson, 4721
School Road; Janeva G. McCulloch, 4801 West 59th Street.
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BOARD OF REVIEW DATE FOR APRIL 16, 2001, AT 5:OO P.M. Manager Hughes asked
that the setting of the Board of Review date be removed from the Consent Agenda because
Member Housh will not be able to be in attendance at the proposed April 16, 2001, date.
Manager Hughes explained that on or before February 15 of each year the County Assessor is
required to give written notice to the City Clerk of the day and time the Board of Review will
meet.
Mayor Maetzold exited the Council Chambers. Mayor pro tem Kelly conducted the meeting.
Following a brief Council discussion, Member Masica made a motion setting April 16,2001,
at 5:OO P.M. as the date for Board of Review. Member Housh seconded the motion.
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
DATES SET FOR ANNUAL MEETING OF MARCH 27, 2001, AND VOLUNTEER
RECOGNITION DINNER OF APRIL 24,2001 Manager Hughes reported that dates for the
Annual Meeting and Volunteer Recognition Reception for 2001 need to be chosen.
Following a brief Council discussion, Member Kelly made a motion setting March 27,2001,
for the Annual Meeting date at Centennial Lakes Park Centrum at 5:OO P.M., and April 24,
2001, for the Volunteer Recognition Reception at Edinborough Park at 5:OO P.M.
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
APPOINTMENTS/RE-APPOINTMENTS MADE TO BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND
COMMITTEES Mayor Maetzold requested endorsement of his recommendations for
appointments and re-appointments to various boards, commissions and committees as
follows:
RE-APPOINTMENTS 1 NAME BOARD/COMMITTE~COMMISSION TERM TO
Linda Kieffer Art Center Committee 2/1/04
DeLores Paul 2/1/04
Kathy Frey (consumer) Community Health Committee 2/1/03
Quentin A. Collins Construction Board of Appeals 2/1/04
Edward Noonan 2/1/04
John McCauley Heritage Preservation Board 2/1/03
Herman Ratelle 2/1/03
Lois Wilder 2/1/03
Donald W. Wrav 2/1/03
Carol Carmichiel (Council) Human Relations Commission 2/1/04
David Fredlund Park Board 2/1/04
Thomas White 2/1/04
David Byron Planning Commission 2/1/04
Gordon V. Johnson 2/1/04
Geoffrey Workinger 2/1/04
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Anne Cronin Recycling and Solid Waste Commission 2/1/03
Kathryn Frey
Inna Hays
Donald W. Patton I Kathryn Frey 2jljO3
Inna Hays 2/1/03
Donald W. Patton Zoning Board of Appeals 2/1/04 Zoning Board of Ameals I 2jljO3
2/1/03
2/1/04
Mayor Maetzold further recommended the following persons to fill the
Board/Commission/Committee vacancies as noted:
APPOINTMENTS I NAME BOARD/COMMISSION/COMMITTEE TERMTO: I
William Crawford Heritage Preservation Board 2/1/02
John Hobday Human Relations Commission 2/1/04
Michael Damman Park Board (unexpired 2 year term) 2/1/03
Ardis Wexler Park Board 2/1/04
Member Masica made a motion endorsing the re-appointments and appointments to the
various boards, commissions and committees as previously noted. Member Housh
seconded the motion.
Ayes: Housh, Hovland, Kelly, Masica, Maetzold
Motion carried.
TONFIRMATION OF CLAIMS PAID Member Masica made a motion, seconded by
Member Hovland approving payment of the following claims as shown in detail on the
Check Register dated January 5, 2001, and consisting of 27 pages: General Fund
$157,005.03; Communications Fund $5,931.84; Working Capital Fund $15,580.40;
Construction Fund $260.00; Art Center Fund $8,668.59; Golf Dome Fund $11,591.94; Aquatic
Center Fund $1,426.75; Golf Course Fund $3,120.82; Ice Arena Fund $1,866.32;
Edinborough/Centennial Lakes Fund $7,812.21; Liquor Fund $114,361.43; Utility Fund
$288,124.79; Storm Sewer Fund $1,166.87; Recycling Fund $37,935.20 ; TOTAL $654,852.19.
Motion carried on rollcall vote - five ayes.
There being no further business on the Council Agenda, Mayor Maetzold declared the
meeting adjourned at 10:33 P.M.
I b’ Cityclerk
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