HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-04-30 Planning Commission Regular Meeting MinutesMINUTE SUMMARY
Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
4801 West 50th Street
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair John Lonsbury, Julie Risser, Nancy Scherer, Kevin Staunton,
Steve Brown, Floyd Grabiel and Arlene Forrest
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Michael Schroeder, Mike Fischer and Katie Sierks
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTE SUMMARY:
The minutes of the March 26, 2008, meeting were filed as submitted.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
Discussion on Massing/Zoning Ordinance Amendment —
Cary Teague, Planning Director
Staff Presentation
Planner Teague addressed the Commission and gave a power point presentation
on "Massing". Planner Teague focused his presentation on establishing a Floor
Area Ratio (FAR) and maximum height to the ridge line or top of a roof.
Continuing, Planner Teague explained staff proposes FAR to be calculated on a
sliding scale on only the front 150 feet of lot depth and FAR shall include only
finished floor area above the basement, including garage space. Planner
Teague said staff also proposes maximum building height of 35 feet to be
measured to the highest point on a roof of a single or double dwelling. The
maximum height may be increased by one inch for each foot that the lot exceeds
75 feet in width, and in no event shall the maximum height exceed 40 feet.
Planner Teague further explained that any lot 135 feet or wider could have a
house 40 feet tall to the top of the roof. Continuing with his presentation Planner
Teague highlighted newly constructed houses within the City and how the
proposed FAR and height requirement would impact their construction.
Concluding, Planner Teague at the direction of the Commission depicted
examples of "neighborhoods/districts" as another tool to use to control massing.
Comments and Questions from the Commission
Commissioner Brown asked Planner Teague to clarify how FAR would be
handled if the City were to establish individual "neighborhoods/districts" as an
approach to control "massing". Planner Teague responded that each
"neighborhood/district" could have its own FAR; adding if the City identifies "19
neighborhoods or districts" there could possibly be a different FAR for each.
Planner Teague pointed out at this time City Code designates all residential lots
as R-1 and all R-1 lots are guided by the same requirements except for variations
for lot width and lot coverage. Concluding, Planner Teague further explained if
the Commission supports establishing neighborhoods/districts each identified
neighborhood/district would need to be rezoned.
Chair Lonsbury asked Planner Teague if the City were to identify and rezone
individual neighborhoods or follows the character districts established in the
Comprehensive Plan would the City need to reestablish standards for each
neighborhood/district. Planner Teague responded in the affirmative.
Commissioner Grabiel observed with regard to massing there is the possibility
that residents/neighbors the Commission has heard from may be wrong.
Commissioner Grabiel stated in his opinion the Commission needs to be careful
in restricting redevelopment and new development. Property owners reinvesting
in their neighborhoods increase property values, and for the most part that is a
good thing. Concluding Commissioner Grabiel noted if changes to Code are too
restrictive residents may find difficulty in selling their homes when the time
comes.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners focusing on height as an important tool
in controlling massing, and agreeing the suggested change in height is a good
tool to implement immediately. Commissioners also noted how the loss of
sunlight as a result of construction of overly tall homes can impact neighborhood
character and enjoyment.
Chair Lonsbury suggested when voting that the proposed Code changes be
separated.
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Chair Lonsbury opened the hearing for public comment.
Public Comment
Mr. Bill Grist, Minneapolis Area Association of Realtors, 5750 Lincoln Drive,
addressed the Commission and explained what is important to realtors is to have
the correct information available for clients. Mr. Grist pointed out it's been
difficult to keep up with current and proposed changes to Edina's Code. He
noted someone can purchase a home under one set of rules, only to have them
change by closing. Mr. Grist asked the Commission to give the current Code
changes time to work before changing them again, reiterating it's been very
difficult for the public to keep up with the changes.
Commissioner Brown moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Scherer seconded the motion. All voted aye.
Commission Action
Commissioner Scherer moved to recommend an amendment to City Code
850 regarding building height. The maximum height to the highest point on
a roof of a single or double dwelling unit shall be 35 feet. The maximum
height may be increased by one inch for each foot that the lots exceeds 75
feet in with. In no event shall the maximum height exceed 40 feet.
Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commission Comment
Further discussion ensued with Commissioners stating they truly believe a one-
size-fit all approach doesn't work. Commissioners also stressed they have no
desire to prevent growth in the City, and acknowledged the difficulty in
developing and implementing new guidelines. Commissioners however stated
that something needs to be done, and new technology could be used as an aid in
development and implementation of new rules. Commissioners reiterated that in
their opinion developing neighborhood districts is the approach that should be
implemented to control massing and maintain neighborhood character.
Commissioners also acknowledged that reconstruction and new construction will
occur during this review process, questioning if FAR should be immediately
established; however, Commissioners reiterated their opinion that if FAR is
established it should be calculated based on individual neighborhood standards.
Continuing, Commissioners further indicated FAR should either be tied to a
"vicinity or neighborhood character districts" as laid out in the Comprehensive
Plan or separate districts should be established and designated. Concluding,
Commissioners stated they believe the recommended Code change this evening
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regarding building height and other recent Code changes will help control
massing until separate neighborhoods are defined and/or rezoned.
Commission Action
Commissioner Staunton moved that the Commission recommend to
Council that they not adopt the proposed Code change on FAR as laid out
in the staff report and that the Commission further study the use of FAR in
a vicinity manner and/or the use of FAR as part of character districts in a
future rezoning of Code. Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. AH
voted aye; motion carried.
III. NEW BUSINESS:
Discussion on Tree Ordinance — Cary Teague, City Planner
Chair Lonsbury suggested that the discussion scheduled on developing a tree
ordinance be held over for the benefit of absent Commissioners. Continuing,
Chair Lonsbury said he would like to receive input on the "potential" tree
ordinance from Commissioner Schroeder who is very knowledgeable on this
subject. Commissioners agreed with the suggestion from the Chair.
Commissioner Scherer moved to table the discussion on a tree ordinance.
Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
IV. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Lonsbury told the Commission Nancy Scherer will no longer serve as
Commission liaison to the Heritage Preservation Board, adding Arlene Forrest
has graciously volunteered to serve as HPB liaison. Chair Lonsbury moved to
elect Arlene Forrest as Commission Liaison to the Heritage Preservation Board.
All voted aye; motion carried. Chair Lonsbury congratulated Commissioner
Forrest.
Chair Lonsbury acknowledged back of packet materials, especially the training
materials prepared by Campbell Knutson.
Commissioner Grabiel told the Commission he experienced a fascinating zoning
board meeting last Thursday and suggested if zoning items are appealed to
Council that the Commission is kept abreast of what occurs at the Council level.
Commissioner Grabiel suggested that the monthly zoning board summary
indicate if an item was appealed. Planner Teague said to date the City has not
received any variance appeals in the month of April; stating Commissioner
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Grabiels suggestion is good, adding if a variance decision is appealed the appeal
will be noted in the monthly summary.
Commissioner Risser invited the Commission and public to attend an Energy Fair
to be held at Centennial Lakes on May 3rd and 4th.
Commissioner Forrest told the Commission she recently attended an excellent
workshop on sustainability and encouraged Commissioners to attend other
workshops offered if they have the opportunity to do so.
V. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Risser moved adjournment at 8:10 pm. Commissioner
Scherer seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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