HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-04-28 Planning Commission Regular Meeting MinutesMEETING MINUTES
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Jeff Carpenter, Julie Risser, Nancy Scherer, Kevin Staunton,
Michael Schroeder, Steve Brown, Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest and Karwehn Kata
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague, Kris Aaker and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the March 24, 2010, Planning Commission meeting were filed as
submitted.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
2010.0002.10b
Jeffrey Parell and Tony Giannakakis
5500 Halifax Lane
5504 Halifax Lane
Lot Division
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission that Jeffrey Parell and Tony Giannakakis are
proposing to shift the existing lot line that divides 5500 and 5504 Halifax Lane for the
purpose of adding more land area in the side and rear yard of 5504 Halifax Lane. The
existing home at 5500 Halifax would be torn down and a new home built. The home at
5504 Halifax Lane was recently built, and would remain. The new home at 5500 Halifax
would be required to meet all applicable zoning ordinance standards as part of the
building permit process. The proposal does not create a new lot.
Planner Tegue asked the Committion to recall that the applicant's recently made a
similar request to shift the existing lot line, which was approved by the City. However,
they have revised their plan for the purpose of adding additional land in the side and
rear yard to the south lot at 5504. The result of this new alignment would mean that the
new home at 5500 Halifax would have to be smaller.
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Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the City Council approve the Lot
Division of 5504 and 5500 Halifax lane subject to the following findings:
1. The lot width of 5504 Halifax Lane currently does not meet the median lot width
requirement. The resulting lot division would result in both lots meeting the
median lot width requirement.
2. The resulting lots comply with all minimum lot size standards of Section 850.11 of
the zoning ordinance.
Approval is also subject to the following Conditions:
1. Prior to the City of Edina filing the approving resolution shifting the lot line, the
existing home at 5500 Halifax Lane must be removed from the site.
2. All building activity on either lot must comply with all minimum zoning ordinance
standards.
3. Any new curb cuts would be subject to review and approval of the engineering
department.
Appearing for the Applicant
Scott Massey, 1055 Wayzata Boulevard, Wayzata, MN
Discussion
A discussion ensued with Commissioners expressing concern with the lot division,
particularly the notch in the lot line that in their opinion creates an irregular lot
configuration for this area. Commissioners said their concern centers on the potential
for owners of the vacant lot (5500 Halifax Lane) to request a variance (because of the
notch) when a new home is constructed on the vacant lot. Commissioners asked for an
explanation behind the irregular lot line readjustment.
Planner Teague explained that the owners of 5504 want to take advantage of the
beautiful creek views and construct a permanent gazebo with cooking area. The
property owner of 5500 has no objection to this reconfiguration. Planner Teague noted
that after the division both lots continue to meet ordinance requirements.
Chair Fischer commented that in his opinion the notch would be hard to manage,
especially in maintaining the grass, etc. Commissioners agreed. Commissioner
Fischer noted that he also understands there are no rules preventing this division; both
lots would continue to comply with the ordinance. Planner Teague responded that is
correct, adding that throughout Edina there are numerous irregular lot configurations;
albeit not in this neighborhood.
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Public Comment
Scott Massey said he is appearing on behalf of his client and explained that the
proposed reconfiguration allows his client the opportunity to construct a gazebo and
cooking area in his rear yard that would not require a variance and take advantage of
creek views. Mr. Massey said his client has no intention of expanding the home,
pointing out it's a relatively new home. Regarding the adjoining property (5500) that lot
is now vacant as per staff's request.
Further Discussion
Commissioner Forrest said she understands that the two lots continue to meet
ordinance requirements; however, she wondered if this rearrangement meets the spirit
of the ordinance. She pointed out this reconfiguration creates unusual lots
configurations in an area of traditional lot configurations.
Commissioner Grabiel noted as previously mentioned that a new house will be
constructed on the vacant lot, adding he doesn't want the owner of the vacant lot to
come in and request a variance for the new house because of the notch. Commissioner
Grabiel asked Planner Teague if there is any way this concern could be attached to the
vacant lot. Planner Teague responded that he could have the building department "flag"
the address so staff is aware of the variance concern when a building permit for new
construction is submitted.
Commission Action
Commissioner Carpenter moved to recommend lot division approval based on
staff findings and subject to staff conditions:
1. The existing home on 5500 Halifax Lane must be removed (in compliance)
2. All building activity on either lot must comply with all minimum zoning
ordinance standards.
3. Any new curb cuts would be subject to review and approval of the
engineering department.
And including the condition that 5500 Halifax Lane is flagged referencing
variance concern.
Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. Ayes; Carpenter, Staunton,
Schroeder, Brown, Grabiel Fischer. Nays, Scherer,
Forrest. Motion carried 6-2.
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2010.0003.10.a Gary Suomela
5200 and 5202 Grandview Lane
Lot Division
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission Mr. Gary Suomela is proposing to split his
existing lot into two lots to create a lot line separation of the existing double-dwelling at
5200 and 5202 Grandview Lane. There is an existing swimming pool in the rear yard
that would extend onto the south lot after the subdivision.
Planner Teague noted there was one duplex in this neighborhood that was divided in a
similar manner. In addition, in 1979, this same lot was approved for this same lot
division; however, the approving resolution was never filed at the County to officially
separate the units. Conditions of approval at that time were that the swimming pool
must be entirely fenced and be assigned to the north lot, and the separate sewer and
water connections be installed.The utility connections were separated, however, the
pool was not fenced to the north lot.
Planner Teague pointed out most of these duplexes in this area were constructed with a
fire-rated wall separating the two units. It is assumed that this structure was similarly
constructed. However, if it was not, the applicant has agreed to construct the necessary
fire-wall between the two units. This would provide protection for each unit, should there
be a fire on the other side.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the city council approve the lot
division as requested, subject to the following conditions:
1. The two units must be separated by a fire-wall as approved by the building
official. The approving resolution dividing the two lots will not be filed at Hennepin
County prior to the building official's review and approval of a wall separating the
two units.
2. A fence must be constructed around the swimming pool to separate it from the
south lot. An easement must also be established over the portion of the
swimming pool that encroaches onto the south lot. The approving resolution will
not be filed until both of these items have been completed.
Discussion
A discussion ensued about the requirement of the easement pointing out that the
easement is outside of the City's prevue and there is the possibility that the swimming
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pool could be removed It was also noted that it appears from the survey that fencing
on the subject property is on City right-of-way. Planner Teague said he would have
Wayne Houle, City Engineer, review the survey and if Mr. Houle wants the fence
removed from the right-of-way it would have to be removed. Continuing, Planner
Teague suggested that if the lot division is approved the fence/right-of-way issue should
be added as a condition of approval. Planner Teague said the City Attorney will review
all conditions and file the Resolution only when all conditions are met.
Action
Commissioner Grabiel moved to recommend lot division approval based on staff
findings and subject to the following conditions:
1. The two units must be separated by a fire-wall
2. A fence must be constructed around the swimming pool to separate if from
the south lot;
With the following condition:
3. That the City Engineer reviews the fence encroachment on City right- of-
way and if the Engineer deems that the fence needs to be removed removal
of the fence is required before the Resolution is filed.
Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion for approval
carried.
- Planning Commissioner Update on the Public Works Site Small Area Guide Plan
Process-
Introduction
Chair Fischer introduced Commissioners Staunton and Schroeder informing the
Commission and public that the two would be briefing the Commission on what
occurred during the very fast-paced 21-day public works site small area guide process.
Chair Fischer stated that although the process was fast-paced; everyone involved found
it to be a very successful.
Commissioner Staunton introduced to Commissioners members of the Community
Advisory Team (CAT) present this evening: Kim Montgomery, Nancy Grazzini-Olson,
Andy Brown, Mike Platteter, Sue Davison, and Peter Sussman member of the Design
Team.
Commissioner's Staunton and Schroeder delivered their presentation and recapped the
following meetings:
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• April 8, 2010 - Kick-Off Meeting at the Edina City Hall. At this meeting members
of the CAT and the Design Team were chosen and introduced.
• April 10, 2010 - Coordination Meeting — brief meeting before a tour of the site.
Debrief after the tour. Grange Hall/public works site.
• April 12, 2010 - Developers Roundtable meeting/Edina City Hall.
• April 14, 2010 — Focus Group meeting with property and business owners/Edina
City Hall.
• April 21, 2010 - Community Meeting/Edina City Hall
• April 22, 2010 - CAT Summary Meeting/Edina City Hall
• April 23 & 24, 2010 - Design Charrette. Two days of design at the Edina Senior
Center.
• April 26, 2010 - Open House — the open house presented documentation of the
process and the schematics incorporating input from residents, CAT members and
the Design Team
• April 27, 2010 - Refinement Meeting/City Hall
• April 28, 2010 - Planning Commission briefing.
Public Comments
Mr. Brown addressed the Commission and said for him being involved in a pro-active
process, not a reactive process, was a great experience.
Ms. Grazzini-Olson said she is the property owner of the office building on Arcadia/Eden
(on stilts) and agreed with Mr. Brown that the process was awesome to be part of. She
said she was especially impressed with the information supplied by Jack Broze,
specialist on transportation issues.
Commissioner Comments:
Chair Fischer thanked Commissioners Brown and Staunton for their time, adding they
did an excellent job.
Commissioners expressed their wholehearted support for the project and well deserved
thanks on an unbelievable effort.
2009.0004.10b Building Height Overlay
Ordinance Amendment
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague reported that at last Tuesday night's City Council meeting, the Council
considered the building height ordinance that the Planning Commission recommended
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at last month's meeting. The Council did not take any action on the ordinance; and
delayed consideration until May 4, knowing that the Planning Commission was
scheduled to meet before May 4. The Council noted that the Commission may wish to
offer additional comments or information on the proposed amendment; in particular in
regard to the issue of podium height.
Planner Teague explained that the proposed ordinance does not specifically address
the podium height issue; rather it is addressed through the existing setback provisions
where the building height determines setback. Further, we have recommended to the
City Council that podium height would be further addressed through a PUD ordinance
which could encourage buildings to be pulled up closer to the street to achieve the
podium height principles within the Comprehensive Plan.
Planner Teague noted as the Planning Commission has discussed, the PUD would give
the City the most leverage, and enable us to look at sites individually to determine if
podium height is appropriate. The Commission concluded that pulling buildings up to
the street by a variance may be problematic in proving a hardship.
Discussion
Chair Fischer told the Commission it was very informative for him to watch last week's
City Council meeting. Chair Fischer said after watching that meeting he came to the
conclusion that the Council and the Planning Commission have similar goals and have
more in common than he originally thought. Commissioner Fischer said what he took
from watching the meeting was that podium height was challenging to correctly
understand and it meant different things to different people.
Commissioner Scherer asked Planner Teague what the Commission's assignment is on
this task. Planner Teague responded the Commission can again discuss the building
and podium height issue, offer comments, or stand by their previous action.
Chair Fischer suggested that the Commission meet jointly with the City Council to gain
a better understanding of what podium height means to each Council/Commission
member and how to achieve podium height if so desired. He acknowledged that either
the ordinance or the Comprehensive Plan may need to be amended to gain compliance
with Met Council. Commissioners expressed agreement that a joint meeting/work
session is important to better address the issue of building height.
Commissioner Schroeder said in his opinion it would be great to know what everyone's
definition of "podium" height is and how to achieve it. Commissioner Schroeder said if
one takes the Southdale campus as an example he believes there are those that think
podium height positions tall(er) buildings in the middle of the site; however, that isn't
necessarily the case
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Commissioner Grabiel commented that a good example of podium height would be the
Foshay Tower. Commissioners agreed that was a good example.
Commissioner Forrest suggested that podium height could be varied according to
density.
Planner Teague asked the Commission to recall they previously determined a way to
achieve podium height was through the PUD process (things can be done parcel by
parcel). He added one reason the City is struggling to define this tool is that parcels in
the same zoning district need to have the same requirements.
Commissioner Staunton said he recalls that aligning the Zoning Ordinance with the
Comprehensive Plan was a goal to achieve by July and asked Planner Teague how
important it was to meet Met Council's time line. Planner Teague responded that Met
Council is very aware the City is in the process of updating the Zoning Ordinance,
adding that it's more important to the Met Council that land uses are in compliance, not
the height of a building on a particular parcel.
Commissioner Forrest asked if there is any concern that an application may come in
during the re-write process. Planner Teague stated that the City Council would have to
make a decision at that time to either amend the Comprehensive Plan or the Zoning
Ordinance, so they would be consistent.
Commissioner Staunton said if he understands State Statue correctly that the
Comprehensive Plan supersedes the Zoning Ordinance. Planner Teague agreed.
Further discussion continued on the advantages of a joint meeting with the City
Council with all Commissioners in agreement that a joint meeting be scheduled to
discuss building and podium height. No formal action was taken.
Chair Fischer asked Planner Teague to convey this request to Council Members.
Continuing, Chair Fischer acknowledged that the City Council is extremely busy;
however, the Planning Commission would like to meet with them for an extended period
of time; not just before a Council Meeting (if at all possible).
III. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer acknowledged back of packet materials.
Commissioner Risser reported that the Green Steps Program is proceeding very well.
Planner Teague informed Commissioners the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee will
meet again on May 12th.
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Commissioner Carpenter reported that the By-Law Committee is finishing up the task of
writing By-Laws for the Commission and would be presenting them for consideration at
the next Planning Commission Meeting.
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
May 26, 2010
V. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved adjournment at 8:55 pm. Commissioner Risser
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Respectfully submitted:
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