HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010-10-27 Planning Commission Regular Meeting MinutesMEETING MINUTES
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 7:00 P.M.
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Fischer, Carpenter, Risser, Scherer, Staunton, Schroeder, Brown, Grabiel,
Forrest, Rock, Stefanik
STAFF PRESENT:
Teague, Aaker, Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the September 29, 2010, meeting was filed as submitted.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
2009.0004.10 Zoning Ordinance Amendments
1. Non-Conforming Use/Alternate Setback Standard Ordinance
2. Driveway Width
3. PUD
Introduction
Planner Teague addressed the Commission and explained since their last meeting
planning staff and Roger Knutson's staff reviewed the three ordinances and made
grammatical changes and ensured consistency. Teague noted the majority of changes
to the text occurred in the Non-Conforming Use/Alternate Setback Standard Ordinance;
specifically the Conditional Use Permit addressing additions, repairs, etc.
Three "conditions" were incorporated into the Conditional Use Permit process when the
first floor is raised by more than one foot; 1) FEMA, 2) Groundwater, and 3) Building
Code. Teague said all or one of these conditions must also meet a fourth condition:
ensuring that the new structure or addition fits the character of the neighborhood.
Continuing, Teague noted changes from Chair Fischer and informed the Commission
that Connie Carrino had also submitted language pertaining to the Non-Conforming
Use/Alternate Setback Ordinance as it relates to the first floor elevation for their review.
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Concluding Planner Teague said the discussion would continue in three parts; 1) PUD,
2) Driveway width, and 3) Non-Conforming Use/Alternate Setback Standard.
1. PUD
Planner Teague explained a change was made to the Ordinance Amending the Zoning
Ordinance Concerning Administration and Procedures and Establishing a PUD District
by creating a mechanism that allows "text amendments" by ordinance. The proposed
change would allow a text amendment process (pg. 33).
Chair Fischer asked for an example of a text amendment. Attorney Knutson said a
zoning ordinance text amendment could be requested when a specific "use" is not
addressed by ordinance; the current ordinance is silent. Commissioner Scherer asked
if a text amendment would apply to the entire zoning district. Knutson responded in the
affirmative. Commissioner Grabiel questioned the reason for establishing a text
amendment process pointing out a zoning ordinance amendment process was already
in place. Knutson agreed; however, the current way a "change" was processed would
be through two hearings; preliminary and final. The proposed text amendment is a one
step process.
Chair Fischer said as previously mentioned at the last meeting on pg. 8 1. eliminate the
word strongly ..."applicants are strongly encouraged". Eliminate strongly in this context
throughout the ordinance (possibly two other places).
Commissioner Staunton said at the last Commission meeting he brought up the point
that in its present form the Zoning Board of Appeals is a "place holder". The discussion
on the status of the Zoning Board of Appeals and who would make-up the "Board of
Appeals" continues.
Commissioner Carpenter noted on page 7 - B.1. Close parenthesis after 10% —
Motion
Commissioner Brown moved to recommend adoption of the proposed Zoning
Ordinance Amendment establishing a Planned Unit Development (PUD) with the
noted changes. Commissioner Carpenter seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried.
Chair Fischer acknowledged members of the public; and explained that last month the
Planning Commission conducted a public hearing and took testimony on the three
ordinance amendments. Fischer said at this time he would welcome further comments
on the proposed amendments presented.
Chair Fisher directed the discussion to the Driveway Width Ordinance.
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2. Driveway Width Ordinance
Jared Anderson, 4004 Monterey Avenue addressed the Commission and explained that
he lives in a 1938 home with a one-stall garage. Mr. Anderson said he would like to add
a detached garage to the rear of his home but because of the 12-foot driveway width
requirement he can't do that. Chair Fischer said the proposed ordinance eliminates a
minimum driveway width. Mr. Anderson thanked the Commission for their work on this
issue.
Motion
Commissioner Grabiel moved to recommend adoption of the Ordinance
Amending the Zoning Ordinance Concerning Driveways. Commissioner Risser
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
3. Nonconforming Buildings and Uses
Chair Fischer addressed the Commission and said at the last Commission meeting
changes were accepted and made to the proposed ordinance, adding the majority of the
discussion and changes focused on the Conditional Use element of the ordinance and
three conditions relating to the first floor elevation of more than one (1) foot above the
existing first floor elevation of the existing dwelling unit. Fischer noted in the text
presented that additional language was added to address State Building Code, City of
Edina Code, and other relevant agency requirements. Fischer stated he thought this
was an important addition to the ordinance to minimize conflict between ordinances,
state and building codes, etc. Fischer gave brief examples of Code conflicts.
Chair Fischer directed the Commissions attention to e-mails between Roger Knutson
and City Staff and Section 3. I. and the term "relevant agency requirements". Fischer
said Knutson suggested eliminating "other relevant agency requirements" and replacing
that with "other statutory requirements".
Chair Fischer said in going through the amended language another issue that was
brought up at the last meeting was requiring documentation of ground water by a
hydrologist; adding after reviewing the building and engineering code requirements it
was found that code already requires property owners to hire geotechnical engineers.
Fischer asked the Commission what language they are comfortable with to ensure
ground water issues are present; and if so, how are they addressed. Commissioner
Brown commented that the Commission needs to determine who is credible in
addressing ground water to ensure documentation if there is an issue, and if so, how to
correct it.
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After further discussion it was determined that reference to ground water documentation
should read: "shall be determined in accordance with accepted hydrologic and
hydraulic engineering practices.
A brief discussion ensued on the use of the term "registered design professional". All
references to this term are to be deleted and replaced with the term "licensed design
professional".
Connie Carrino said in reviewing building code and other state requirements she
thought she read or heard reference to an 8-foot ceiling height requirement. Ms.
Carrino asked if that was correct; and if that wasn't correct; should the ordinance allow
language indicating "standard building practice" or reference "8-foot ceilings". Bjorn
Freudendahl said every builder today builds new homes with 8-foot ceilings.
Chair Fischer said the building code requires a ceiling height of 7-feet, not 8.
A discussion ensued on whether 8-foot ceiling heights should be referenced in the
amended language. Commissioners said they felt there should be no reference to
ceiling height or adding standard building practices to the language. Those changes do
not fit what the Commission was trying to achieve with the Conditional Use process.
Further discussion ensued on Conditional Use relating to Section 3 with the following
changes to the proposed ordinance:
Section 3. I. Last line reads: Subject to the following conditions. It was determined that
this reference should be clearer and that: # 4 is constant requirement but 1, 2, or 3
could apply depending on the property in question. Maybe it could read: meet one of
the following 1, 2 or 3. 4 must be met at all times.
Sections 2.b. add from the "applicable lot line".
Section 3 make sure everything is uniform and that all references state "single dwelling
unit building".
Section 3. I. 1-4 add after "may be increased to the extent necessary" throughout.
Motion
Commissioner Risser moved to recommend adoption of the Ordinance Amending
the Zoning Ordinance Concerning Nonconforming Buildings and Uses. Approval
is subject to the changes suggested. Commissioner Grabiel seconded the
motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
III. COMMUNITY COMMENT:
None.
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IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
Planning Commission By-laws.
Chair Fischer said Commissioner Carpenter would speak to the proposed Commission
By-laws.
Commissioner Carpenter briefed the Commission on the changes to the By-laws since
their last meeting, noting the majority of changes "cleaned up" the text.
Chair Fischer noted under e. second line; there is an extra word. Continuing, Fischer
said he observed the term "presiding officer" and questioned if "presiding officer" was
the same as chairperson". After a brief discussion Commissioner Carpenter said he
would review the By-laws and use "Chairperson" and "Presiding Officer" where
applicable, acknowledging the "chairperson" has duties different from "presiding officer"
The discussion continued on when members of the public can give input during a
Planning Commission meeting. It was determined that public input at a Planning
Commission meeting was at the discretion of the Chair. It was noted when the
Commission holds a public hearing notice of the meeting must be published in the local
paper 10-days prior to the hearing.
A brief discussion ensued on how to supply the City Council with a "courtesy copy" of
the new By-laws. It was determined that the By-laws would be added as back of the
packet" materials in the Council packet that goes out the Friday before each Council
Meeting.
Motion
Commissioner Risser moved to recommend adoption of the three ordinances
discussed: 1) Non-Conforming Buildings and Uses and Addition 2)
Administration and Procedures and Establishing a Planned Unit District (PUD),
and 3) Driveway Width. Commissioner Grabiel seconded the motion. All voted
aye; motion carried.
V. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer acknowledged receipt of back of packet materials, and asked if
Board/Commission liaisons had anything to offer.
Commissioner Risser reported that on November 8th, in the Edina City Hall lobby and
Council Chambers a "NEMO" workshop will be conducted on air, water quality and
sustainability.
Reminder: Tuesday, November 2nd — Election Day.
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Chair Fischer reported the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee will not meet on
Wednesday, November 10th, noting the ordinances discussed tonight will be forwarded
to the Council for their review/approval on November 16th.
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved adjournment at 8:40 pm. Commissioner Risser
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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Respectfully submitted
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