HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-02-23 Planning Commission Regular Meeting MinutesMEETING MINUTES
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Jeff Carpenter, Ken Potts, Nancy Scherer, Michael Platteter,
Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest, Matt Rock and Melisa Stefani
MEMBERS AGSENT:
Kevin Staunton, Michael Schroeder
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the January 23, 2011 were held over.
IL NEW BUSINESS:
Introduction of new Planning Commission Members
Chair Fischer welcomed the new Planning Commissioners; Michael Platteter and Kevin
Potts.
Commissioners Platteter and Potts told the Commission they were looking forward to
working with them and serving the City.
Election of Officers and adoption of by-laws
Chair Fischer referred to the proposed Planning Commission by-laws noting that the by-
laws refer to the election of chair, co-chair and secretary. Fischer noted that currently
and in the past planning staff assumed the role of the secretary; however, if
Commissioners felt the need to elect a secretary that can be discussed.
Chair Fischer reported that according to City Ordinance the Boards/ Commission Chair
serves a two year term, adding this term limit requirement also includes the Planning
Commission. Continuing, Fischer stated that it came as a surprise to him that his two
years as PC Chair are up, adding it's time to elect another chair and other officers.
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The Commission stated that this was a surprise to them too; adding that at this time
they would like to "hold off on electing a new Chair allowing them time to consider their
options. The Commission also noted they are in the process of amending the zoning
ordinance and to maintain continuity it may be best to keep the current Chair in place.
The Commission pointed out that during the Comprehensive Plan re-write process John
Lonsbury retained the chair for a three year time period to ensure continuity. Chair
Fischer acknowledged the sentiment of the Commission, and pointed out that the
ordinance stipulates a two year term for the chair. Continuing, Fischer stated he was
very happy with the accomplishments of the last two years (by-laws, ordinance re-write,
PUD, sketch plan review), adding that at this time it's time to elect a new chair and have
the new chair bring their own ideas to the Commission. Fischer stated he would feel
comfortable continuing the annual meeting to the next PC meeting. The Commission
formally requested that the annual meeting adopting by-laws and electing new officer(s)
be continued to the next meeting of the Planning Commission, noting that two Planning
Commissioners were absent.
Motion
Commissioner Grabiel moved to continue the election of officers and adoption of
by-laws to the March 23, 2011, Planning Commission Meeting. Commissioner
Carpenter seconded the motion. Ayes; Potts, Scherer, Carpenter, Grabiel,
Forrest, Platteter, Fischer. Motion carried.
III. NEW BUSINESS:
Zoning Ordinance Update — Discussion
Rooftop Dining
Chair Fischer summarized the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee's (ZOUC) previous
discussion on rooftop dining, adding during that discussion three options were
formulated to address it; prohibit rooftop restaurants within the City, allow rooftop
restaurants to continue as a permitted use or allow rooftop restaurants as a
conditionally permitted use. Fischer added at the meeting the ZOUC asked staff to draft
an ordinance that would allow rooftop dining as a conditionally permitted use within the
PCD-2 zoning district. Fisher also added at that meeting the Committee invited City
Engineer, Wayne Houle to clarify ramp parking/merchant fees and circulation in the 50th
& France Avenue business area at the next meeting of the Planning Commission.
Fischer concluded that Mr. Houle is present to address the parking situation at 50th &
France.
Mr. Houle presented to the Commission a power point overview of the 50th & France
business commercial area and the cost reimbursement for work/maintenance of the
ramps, sidewalks and other public areas.
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Mr. Houle explained that the 50th & France Commercial Area is governed by City Code
1215, adding 1215 focuses on two areas; Grandview and 50th and France. Houle
outlined key areas of City responsibility for the 50th & France Avenue business area and
merchant cost assessment:
• Cost and assessment/ 2010 $276,552.76 @ $0.7826 (cost assessment is based
on square footage, not use).
• Types of Parking; Contract (permit), 2-hour parking, 5-hour parking and top level
parking — permit or 5-hour plus
• Total public parking spaces available = 1,053
• Total public and private parking available = 1,283
Mr. Houle summarized the public parking availability:
• South ramp = 409 spaces
• Middle ramp = 338 spaces
• North ramp = 255 spaces
• 36 surface public parking spaces at the 49 1/2 St. & Halifax ramp area
• 15 public parking spaces in front of the Liquor Store
Houle also noted that Lund's provides its own parking; however, patrons of Lund's can
also access the public parking areas. Continuing, Houle explained when Salute moved
into the area the City realized it would have to "get its arms" around the parking. Houle
reported that a valet service was also implemented in the area to accommodate parking
demands. Houle said a vehicle counting system is in place and the City uses the
Shared Parking Model. Houle acknowledged that during peak times and seasonally
parking was an issue, adding the City needs to determine how to address it.
Concluding, Houle pointed out that the public ramps and surface parking spaces
provide parking for not only the general public but for employees as well.
The Commission asked how the City of Minneapolis works with Edina on parking. Mr.
Houle acknowledged that the 50th and France Avenue Business Association includes
both Edina and Minneapolis merchants; however, Minneapolis' philosophy on parking
and parking ramps is different from Edina's. Minneapolis isn't fond of ramps at least for
this area. The Commission commented that it appears Edina's ramps support
Minneapolis. Mr. Houle responded that he can't argue with that statement.
The Commission expressed surprise on the number of employees that park in the
ramps. Mr. Houle said the City established a parking permit process and fee for
employee parking, adding only Edina merchant employees can park in the ramp;
Minneapolis side employees are "on their own". The Commission asked if business
owners had expressed concern over employee parking. Houle responded that business
owners had expressed concern over employee parking and are considering the option
of shuttling employees to and from the area. The Commission asked Mr. Houle if it was
determined that more parking was needed would the cost of providing the additional
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parking spaces/ramp level be assessed back to the merchants. Mr. Houle responded in
the affirmative.
Chair Fischer thanked Mr. Houle for his presentation.
Discussion
The Commission acknowledged that the success of 50th & France was a good problem;
however, at this time the charge of the Commission was to comment on rooftop dining.
The Commission discussed the difference in commercial uses; especially with parking
demands pointing out that traditionally restaurant parking demands are greater than
those for general retail use. Planner Teague agreed with that comment.
Commissioners also noted that merchant assessments are based on square footage;
not use. Planner Teague informed Commissioners that they are correct in their
comments on parking demands for restaurant establishments and acknowledged that
parking ratios differentiate between commercial uses.
Planner Teague briefed the Commission on the proposed rooftop dining ordinance
highlighting the following points:
1. Rooftop dining must be subordinate to the principal restaurant
building.
2. Rooftop dining areas that are larger than 20% in area of the square
footage of the principal restaurant building must provide additional
parking as required for restaurants per Section 850.08 of the City
Code.
3. Hours of operation shall be limited to no later than 10:00 pm. The
City Council may further restrict the hours of operation based upon
the proximity of the area to residential dwelling units and upon
considerations relating to the safety and welfare of residents,
businesses, and other uses near the establishment.
4. The lot line of a rooftop dining establishment shall be at least 50
feet from any residential parcel and shall be separated from
residential parcels by the principal structure or other method of
screening acceptable to the city.
5. There shall be no outside speakers or audio equipment which is
audible from adjacent parcels.
6. The rooftop dining area shall be handicap accessible and not
restrict accessibility in other areas inside or outside the restaurant
or food establishment.
7. The rooftop dining area must conform to all Fire and Building
Codes.
8. The rooftop dining area shall be kept in a clean and orderly
manner. No food or beverages may be stored outdoors, unless a
suitable means for such storage has been reviewed and approved
by the City as part of the CUP.
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The Commission acknowledged the rooftop dining ordinance drafted by Planner Teague
and noted that rooftop dining was seasonal; similar to sidewalk dining and questioned
the reasoning sidewalk dining wasn't included in the ordinance draft. Continuing, the
Commission also observed that there is a difference between sidewalk and rooftop
dining. The Commission added that in their opinion Edina should encourage sidewalk
dining because it enhances the quality of life and is part of the streetscape. They also
acknowledged that rooftop dining by its very nature wasn't part of the streetscape.
Planner Teague responded that during his study on the topic of rooftop and sidewalk
dining that he found that sidewalk dining usually doesn't exceed the 20% in area of the
square footage of the principal indoor restaurant area, adding a cut-off mark needed to
be established. Continuing, Teague said the draft ordinance also recommends a 50-
foot setback from residential properties, limited hours, amplified sound standards,
rooftop bar and kitchen are prohibited, storage of materials is prohibited and the rooftop
dining was limited to the PCD-2 zoning district.
In conclusion the Commission stated they understood the rationale behind the draft
ordinance and its stipulated conditions; however, were troubled over the possible
perceived unfairness of singling out this establishment and rooftop dining The
Commission pointed out that the current ordinance governing the PCD-2 district was
amended to accommodate housing; and now that amendment has created an issue
where before the amendment there was none..
Continuing, the Commission stated they felt that the 50-foot distance requirement made
sense; however, suggested that the amendment should be written that "rooftop dining
must maintain a 50-foot setback from all residentially zoned properties." The
Commission stated to the best of their knowledge the 50th and France area is zoned
PCD-2. The Commission also reiterated as previously mentioned, that the City of Edina
has no degree of control over what happens on the Minneapolis side of the street;
pointing out there are ample opportunities for rooftop dining directly across the street,
adding that it seems odd to legislate for this one corner.
In summary the Commission asked Planner Teague to review the following:
• Amend the proposed ordinance language stipulating that rooftop dining maintain
a 50-foot setback from all residentially zoned properties. It was acknowledged
that the proposed language established a setback between uses within a
similarly zoned district; not zones.
• Introduce screening requirements; noting flexibility; case by case.
• Revisit the noise standards and it's reference to speakers/amplified sounds —
maybe include amplified sound not audible to adjacent properties
• Revisit the 20% -
Planner Teague invited all Commissioners to call or e-mail him if they had other ideas
on this topic.
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An Ordinance Amending the Zoning Ordinance concerning Notification
Requirements for Conditional Use Permits
Planner Teague said the City Council directed staff to draft an ordinance that reduces
notification distance requirements for Conditional Use Permits required for first floor
elevations that exceed existing structures by more than 1-foot in the R-1 and R-2 zoning
districts. The notification reduction would be from 1,000-feet to 350-feet.
The Commission asked where the 350-foot distance came from. Planner Teague
responded that the 350-feet originate from the state statute distance requirements for
Conditional Use Permits. Teague pointed out that Edina's 1000-foot distance
notification requirement for Conditional Use Permits far exceeds the minimum distance
requirements stipulated by state statute.
The Commission asked if the proposed ordinance was written only for single and double
family homes. Planner Teague responded that is correct. The 350-foot notification area
keeps the notification area in line with other residential requests such as variances.
Teague further clarified that this ordinance does not include R-1 zoned properties such
as churches, schools and public buildings, reiterating its jurisdiction was only for single
and double family homes.
Motion
Commissioner Carpenter moved to recommend ordinance adoption.
Commissioner Potts seconded the motion. Ayes; Potts, Carpenter, Scherer,
Grabiel, Forrest, Platteter, Fischer. Motion carried on roll call vote — seven ayes.
The Commission asked, as a point of clarification, if the 1-foot ordinance only pertains
to water related issues. Planner Teague responded in the affirmative.
Ordinance Amendment Concerning Boards & Commissions
Chair Fischer commented that he believes the ordinance amendment on boards and
commissions was already adopted and asked Planner Teague if the Council was
looking for comments. Planner Teague responded that is correct. The Council would
like the Commission to share their ideas on this topic or suggest changes. Teague said
this topic could also be discussed at the joint work session with the Council in May.
Chair Fischer said the Planning Commission hasn't had any issues with attendance;
however, paragraph B page 5 talks about attendance criteria, adding in his opinion
Council work sessions could present a problem. Continuing, Fischer noted that
Commission and ZBA meetings are predetermined, and Commissioners are provided
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with a yearly meeting calendar. Council work sessions are not included in that
calendar, reiterating that could present a problem. The Commission agreed.
The Commission also noted that depending on what happens with the ZBA that
attendance; especially the joint work session(s) needs to be discussed at the joint work
session in May.
IV. COMMUNITY COMMENT:
None.
V. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer acknowledged back of packet materials.
Chair Fischer reminded the Commission that the next ZOUC meeting is scheduled for
March 9th, followed by the Planning Commission meeting on March 23rd . Fischer noted
that the PC meeting on the 23rd was changed from the originally scheduled meeting on
March 30th. Fischer explained this change was made to accommodate spring break.
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
.Commissioner Staunton moved adjournment at 8:38. Commissioner Platteter
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Jackie Mactgettalifteit
Respectfully submitted
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