HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-09-28 Planning Commission Meeting MinutesMINUTES
CITY OF EDINA, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
SEPTEMBER 28, 2011
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Grabiel called the meeting of the Edina Planning Commission to order at 7:00 PM.
II. ROLL CALL
Answering the roll call were Commissioners Platteter, Potts, Carpenter, Forrest, Rock,
Grabiel
Absent from the roll call were Commissioners Schroeder, Fischer, Staunton, Scherer,
Cherkassky
III. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Commissioner Platteter moved approval of the September 28, 2011, meeting
agenda. Commissioner Carpenter seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried. Meeting Agenda was approved as submitted.
IV. APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS
Commissioner Potts moved approval of the September 14, 2011, meeting
minutes. Commissioner Forrest seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
None.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING
B-11-08
Front Yard Setback Variance
Scott Busyn/Great Neighborhood Homes
5413 Doncaster Way, Edina, MN.
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Planner Presentation
Planner Aaker informed the Commission property owner Scott Busyn is requesting a
front yard setback variance to build a two story home with a footprint of 2,473.4 square
feet on property located at 5413 Doncaster Way. The property backs up to Highlands
Elementary School and is currently occuped by a rambler with an attached two car
garage. The ordinance indicates that the setback from the street is determined by
averaging the front yard setbacks of the adjacent homes located at 6409 Doncaster
Way at 58.1feet and 5417 Doncaster Way at 29 feet. The required average front yard
setback for the subject property is 43.5 feet. The existing home provides a front yard
setback of 28.7 feet. The new home would be built with a front yard setback of 29.2
feet. The new home would be slightly farther back from the front lot line than the existing
home. The proposed home was designed to conform to all of the zoning ordinance
requirements with the exception of the setback required along Doncaster Way. The new
home would improve upon the setback of the existing home.
Aaker explained that the subject property is 16,791.7 square feet in area. The existing
home was built in 1954 and pre-dates the current front yard setback requirements and
is closer to Doncaster Way than the proposed house will be. Many of the homes along
Doncaster Way including the subject home were built years before the current minimum
front yard setback standard was established.
Aaker noted that the proposed home is a two story with an attached 3 stall garage. The
proposed first floor elevation of the home will be 912.5 which will be two feet lower than
the existing home that has a first floor elevation of 914.5. The finish materials include
shake siding with hardi-panel and trim.
Planner Aaker concluded that staff recommends approval based on the following
findings:
1) With the exception of the variance requested, the proposal would meet the
required standards and ordinances for the R-1, Single Dwelling Unit District.
2) The proposal would meet the required standards for a variance, because:
a. The proposed use of the property is reasonable; as it is consistent with
surrounding properties and matches the nonconforming setback that has
historically been provided by the existing home.
b. The imposed setback limits design opportunities by forcing the home more
towards the back of the lot. A conforming new home would locate the front of
the house half way behind the front wall of the home to the south, ultimately
affecting 5417 Doncaster's front yard setback average.
c. The intent of the ordinance is to maintain an even and consistent
streetscape given surrounding property improvements. The proposed home
location will be consistent with the location of the existing home on the
property.
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3) The unique circumstances are the original placement of the homes built along
the block.
Approval of the variance is also subject to the following conditions:
1) Subject to staff approval, the site must be developed and maintained in
substantial conformance with the following plans, unless modified by the
conditions below:
• Survey date stamped: August 31, 2011
• Building plans and elevations date stamped, August 17, 2011.
Appearing for the Applicant
Scott Busyn, applicant
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Busyn told the Commission he held a neighborhood meeting and presented his
plans for the new house. Busyn reported the neighbors that attended the meeting
indicated their support for the new house; however, one neighbor, the neighbor to the
south, asked him if the new house could be situated closer to the street. Moving the
house forward would help to retain their views. Busyn said he agreed with the request
from the neighbor to the south and revised his original plans to accommodate the
request.
Public Comment
George Watson, 5417 Doncaster Way addressed the Commission and explained he
was the neighbor to the south who requested that Mr. Busyn move the new house
closer to the street so his views would not be comprised. Mr. Watson thanked Mr.
Busyn for this change. Concluding Mr. Watson mentioned that the new house would be
taller than his house.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners in agreement that the new house will be a
two-story house; not a one story house as was the original. The Commission
acknowledged that the new house would be a change; however noted that all
setbacks except for the front yard setback meet Code and pointing out that the subject
lot was rather shallow
Motion
Commissioner Carpenter moved variance approval based on staff findings and
noting that the subject lot was shallow. Approval was also subject to staff
conditions. Commissioner Potts seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
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carried.
2011.0009.11a Conditional Use Permit for Classroom Addition
Wold Architects/Edina Public Schools
4725 South View Lane, Edina, MN
Planner Presentation
Planner Aaker told the Commission the Edina Public Schools are proposing to build a
5,600 square foot, two-story addtion to to the South View Middle School located at 4725
Southview Lane. The additon would include a new kitchen for the cafeteria and various
claclassroom space. The building additon would be setback 117 feet from the front
property line along Concord Avenue, to match the exiting setback of the school. A
Conditional Use Permit is required for the expansion to the school. Aaker explained
that the existing 28 acre site contains South View Middle School; the Edina Community
Center; athletic facilities for Edina Schools including tennis courts, baseball and softball
field a football/soccer field with a track; and three large parking fields.
Planner Aaker concluded that staff recommends that the City Council approve the
Conditional Use Permit to build an addition to the South View Middle School at 4725
South View Lane for Edina Public Schools.
Approval is based on the following findings:
1. The proposal meets the Conditional Use Permit conditions per Section 850.04
Subd. 4. E, of the Edina Zoning Ordinance.
2. The proposal meets all applicable Zoning Ordinance requirements.
3. The addition addresses building space needs at the school.
Approval is also subject to the following conditions:
1. If necessary, approval of the site work from the Minnehaha Creek Watershed
District. Plans may be revised per conditions of the Watershed District.
2. A building permit must be obtained within two years of City Council approval.
Appearing for the Applicant
Barbara Nash
Applicant Presentation
Ms. Nash addressed the Commission and explained that the school district desires to
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enhance student learning by building additional classroom space and cafeteria area.
Nash said this request is immediate; however the district continues to study the schools
long term needs.
Discussion/Comments
Chair Grabiel commented that it appears to him that the proposed addition squares off a
corner of the existing building. Ms. Nash agreed.
Planner Aaker presented to the Commission the proposed materials board for the
addition.
Public Comment
Chair Grabiel asked if anyone from the public would like to speak to this issue; being
none Grabiel asked for a motion to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Carpenter moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner Potts
seconded the motion. All voted aye. Public hearing closed.
Motion
Commissioner Carpenter commented that in his opinion the plan is reasonable.
Commissioner Carpenter moved Conditional Use Permit approval based on staff
findings and subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Forrest seconded the
motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commissioner Platteter said his daughter attends South View and additional space
was needed.
VII. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
Sketch Plan Review/JMS for Bishops Walk — Indianola Avenue, Edina, MN.
Planner Presentation
Planner Aaker informed the Commission that they are asked to consider a sketch plan
proposal by JMS Homes to redevelop the properties at 5020 and 5024 Indianola
Avenue and properties owned by Edina Covenant Church at 5016 Indianola. The
proposal is to develop the properties in two phases.
Planner Aaker explained that the first phase would be to tear down the existing single-
family homes at 5020 and 5024 Indianola, and build six (6) detached homes over a four
lot, 26,730 square foot area. The new homes would stretch from Indianola to Jay Place.
There would be underground parking for each of the units, with access from Indianola
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Avenue. Aaker asked the Commission to recall that they reviewed a similar plan back in
June of 2011 for seven (7) detached homes.
Planner Aaker reported that the second phase of development would be the church
property, where eleven (11) detached homes are proposed. Access would again be off
of Indianola. Overall the proposed density would be 11 units per acre, which would
require a Comprehensive Plan Amendment from LDR, Low Density Residential to MDR,
Medium Density Residential. Additionally, a rezoning of these sites from R-1, Single
Dwelling Unit District to PRD, Planned Residential District would be required.
Staff has the following concerns with the proposed project:
• The proposed phasing & site plan. The phasing of the project would propose six
units to be built where the seven units where previously proposed. It is
essentially the same proposal that was not supported by the City Council last
June. If the Church property is available for redevelopment, it would seem that
the density of the development should occur close to 50th street, and the area
that is proposed for the first six units, should be used as a landscape buffer area
between the medium density use and the low density use to the south.
• Lack of surface parking. As proposed, the only available on-site parking spaces
would be the two spaces underground. Visitor parking would have to occur on
Indianola. It would be appropriate to provide on-site visitor parking within the
site, and not rely on Indianola.
• Density and the number of variances requested. It appears the density is too
much for the site given the number of variances required, and the lack of on-site
parking.:
Planner Aaker noted that the following concerns were raised by the Commission that
have not been addressed:
1. Lack of area to control drainage. Concern was raised in regard to building
coverage and drainage. This plan has more building coverage than the first
plan.
2. Lack of individual storage space including bikes.
3. Garage entrance coming off Indianola. A suggestion was made to come off
Jay Place.
4. Lack of depth and separation of uses. Setbacks remain the same to the
single family homes to the south.
5. Concern over the increase in density. The density has not been reduced.
The first plan proposed 11 units per acres. This plan proposes 11 units per
acre.
Planner Aaker concluded that if this type of development is desirable for the City of
Edina, it would be appropriate to have the ability to rezone to a PUD, Planned Unit
Development. Currently PUD zoning is not available in the R-1 District. By utilizing PUD
zoning, the City would have greater authority to regulate development, such as requiring
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affordable housing, sustainable building, and a more walkable development. Conditions
required in a PUD are much easier to enforce then conditions placed on standard
rezoning projects. As with any rezoning, the authority to rezone would still rest with the
City Council. Staff would recommend that the Planning Commission and City Council
rethink the prohibition on allowing PUD rezoning in the R-1 Zoning District.
Chair Grabiel addressed the Commission and public and briefly explained to them the
recently adopted Sketch Plan Review process. Grabiel explained the intent of a sketch
plan review was to allow an applicant the ability to appear before the Commission/
Council with an idea to gage if their development idea "has legs". This process saves
the applicant money because the plans submitted are "sketches", minimal in detail and
not set in stone. Grabiel noted that the Planning Commission reviewed a similar sketch
plan for Bishops Walk adding he never thought the Commission would have serial
sketch plan reviews. Grabiel cautioned everyone not to read into what they have to say.
Concluding Grabiel acknowledged receipt of materials from neighbors; adding that in his
opinion there would be no public discussion on the submitted sketch plan. Expanding
on his comment Grabiel said he would feel uncomfortable listening to input from
neighbors without notification.
Applicant Presentation
Jeff Schoenwetter addressed the Commission and informed them he just returned from
a workshop on "pocket neighborhoods" that he found very exciting. Schoenwetter said
that "Bishops Walk" is an example of a "pocket neighborhood" and in his opinion
prohibiting a PUD classification in an R-1 zoning district was unfortunate for Edina.
Schoenwetter acknowledged there are neighbors that don't support this proposal;
however, he wants to know if Edina has an appetite for this type of housing. He added
if Phase I was approved for rezoning he would proceed with developing Phase II; if both
Phase I & II are successful he would proceed with a Phase III.
Continuing, Schoenwetter delivered a power point presentation outlining the changes
between submittals, noting the unit count for Phase I was reduced from 7-units to 6-
units and all units continue to be detached. Schoenwetter said if Phase I was well
received the unit count of Phase II would be higher. Schoenwetter stated he believes
this type of housing was transitional and incorporates the best of urban living. Pocket
Neighborhoods can be considered a community within a community. Concluding,
Schoenwetter reported there was unprecedented pre-sale interest for this type of
community and it's something the market wants.
Discussion/Comments
Commissioner Carpenter asked Mr. Schoenwetter if he had purchase agreements for
Phase II & Ill. Schoenwetter responded that he had an understanding.
A brief discussion ensued on who "controls" Phase II & Ill properties. Schoenwetter
responded that Phase I was settled and Phase II had no "date certain". Schoenwetter
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added that at this time he would rather not have his Company's business transactions
become part of this evening's public record.
Commissioner Rock inquired where the courtyard(s) would be located. Commissioner
Forrest said she thought that having common spaces was a large part of the pocket
neighborhood concept. Schoenwetter agreed and pointed out in "pocket neighborhood"
developments there are a number of different "common spaces" other than the
traditional courtyard. Schoenwetter noted rear and side yards could also be designed
as green space and houses could have front porches with walkways. Schoenwetter
said the development of common area would depend on the final architecture of the
project.
Commissioner Potts said that while he had no comments he likes the idea of pocket
neighborhoods and he believes that the proposed location is good; however, he said he
wasn't convinced that Phase I could be "pulled off'. Potts reiterated he supports the
concept of a pocket neighborhood but can't see Phase I in execution.
Commissioner Forrest also stated she likes the concept of pocket neighborhoods,
however doesn't believe this is the best location for a pocket neighborhood. Forrest
acknowledged Schoenwetters comment on transition and that this development could
be viewed as transitional but pointed out this area already transitions from the
commercial shops along 50th/France, to condo buildings and a sprinkle of doubles to
single family along West 50th Street. Continuing, Forrest also indicated she was
uncomfortable with amending the Comprehensive Guide Plan and that this "type" of
residential neighborhood concept hadn't been studied enough.
Chair Grabiel informed the Commission he also attended the workshop on pocket
neighborhoods, reiterating he likes the idea of this type of development. Grabiel said
that smaller quality homes probably do meet a market niche. Grabiel said if anyone
was interested in learning more about this type of housing concept they can visit the
website at www.pocket-neighborhoods.net. Continuing, Grabiel commented that in his
opinion to make this concept work Mr. Schoenwetter would need to develop at minimum
Phase II & Ill after Phase I. Grabiel said without those other phases Phase I would
become a concern. Grabiel said at the workshop he viewed examples of pocket
neighborhoods that worked and some that didn't. Concluding, Grabiel said that in his
opinion this concept was worthy of continued discussion and the City needs to be
responsive to changes/trends in the market; however, one needs to be mindful that any
development if permitted is done the right way and in the right location.
The discussion continued with Commissioners expressing they liked the concept of
pocket neighborhoods; however, as previously mentioned it must be done correctly and
in the right place. The Commission agreed that this concept was something the City
should consider.
Chair Grabiel thanked Mr. Schoenwetter for his presentation.
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Zoning Ordinance Amendment — Revisions to Approved Site Plans
Planner Aaker informed the Commission the City Council had directed staff to draft an
ordinance amendment to clearly define when changes may be made to an approved
site plan. Aaker explained that currently the Edina ordinance wasn't clear on this.
Continuing, Aaker said that the draft ordinance would permit City staff the ability to
approve minor changes. Changes which affect the overall design of the property shall
be reviewed and processed by the Commission and Council in the same manner as
they reviewed and processed them.
Commissioner Carpenter said with respect to administratively approved changes to a
site plan up to a 5% increase or a total of 10,000 square feet (similar to Bloomington)
the 5% should be clearly identified. Carpenter said he doesn't want an applicant to
become serial and come in for an original 5%, and at another time come in for another
5%, and so on. Carpenter said in his opinion there should only be "one bite off the
apple".
Chair Grabiel questioned if reduction in size needs review. Grabiel added that
Carpenters comment on serial changes was a good one and agrees that
administratively or otherwise one time should be it.
Commissioner Platteter said in his opinion the changes make sense.
The discussion ensued and Commissioners requested that Planner Teague revisit the
proposed amendment and focus particularly on the impact of decreases, notification of
changes (yes-no), and the 10,000 square foot allowance (seems too much).
Zoning Ordinance Amendment — Real Estate Sign Ordinance
Planner Aaker noted that recently the City received a complaint in regard to the size of
real estate signs in the R-1 and R-2 zoning districts. Aaker clarified that at this time the
City of Edina sign ordinance allows a traditional "for-sale" sign of six square feet.
However, over time it has become standard real estate practice to add signs to the
original sign, including open house information, web site information and real estate
agent names. Aaker said the City has researched "for-sale" signs and found the
industry standard had changed and the intent of the proposed ordinance amendment
was to respond to this change. Real estate signs are now commonly larger than the six
square feet presently allowed per ordinance.
Commissioner Potts said he agrees, adding that most real estate signs he sees had
"ad-ons" and he can support the amendment as proposed.
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Commissioner Platteter said he wasn't a fan of this amendment, adding that it's only his
opinion that real estate signs are large enough. Commissioner Forrest stated she
agrees with Platteter, adding just because industry standards change that doesn't mean
the Sign Code needs to change.
Commissioner Carpenter said that staffs research confirmed that industry standards
had changed due to a number of things (web) and if the ordinance wasn't amended to
recognize this change Edina would have a lot of non-conforming real estate signs.
Continuing, Carpenter said he is in favor of the proposed amendment, adding if
amended the ordinance would match what is occurring in the industry. Carpenter said
he wasn't in the real estate business and can't comment on what the reality business
believes was the appropriate size for signs.
Commissioner Forrest stated that the City shouldn't have to meet industry standards.
Commissioner Potts pointed out if the ordinance wasn't changed this could become an
enforcement issue. Planner Aaker agreed; she stated that the industry standard has
changed and enforcement would be difficult.
Commissioner Grabiel said he supports the amendment as proposed.
Commissioner Rock questioned what would happen if the ordinance standard changes
again.
Motion
Commissioner Carpenter moved to recommend adoption of the proposed
amendment to Edina's Sign Ordinance No. 460. Commissioner Potts seconded
the motion. Ayes; Carpenter, Potts, Grabiel. Nay; Platteter, Forrest. Motion
carried.
Zoning Ordinance Amendment — Utility and Mechanical Equipment
Planner Presentation
Planner Aaker told the Commission when York Gardens was constructed the
mechanical equipment became an issue. Aaker said that Edina and the majority of
cities do not require mechanical equipment to meet setbacks. At this time staff would
like to know if the City should require setbacks for utility equipment. Should the
requirement remain as it is today, and enforce setback regulations for all utility
equipment or should the City amend the zoning ordinance to exempt small utility
equipment and require setbacks for large equipment.
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Discussion
Commissioner Forrest questioned how the City would clarify small vs. large. Forrest
also questioned if churches and schools would be exempt Planner Aaker agreed that a
clarification in size may need to be determined. Commissioner Carpenter said another
thing to consider would be how to measure the size of the utility equipment.
Commissioner Forrest said in her opinion utility boxes/structures isn't attractive, adding
other issues to consider would be screening and noise. Commissioner Platteter added
clarification needs to be made on what requires screening and what doesn't. Would that
be made by equipment size?
A discussion ensued with Commissioners in agreement that more study needs to be
done on the proposed amendment. Size, setback, exempt/non-exempt, noise all need
to be addressed including the issue of screening.
Chair Grabiel asked Planner Aaker to have Planner Teague take another look at this.
Grabiel commented that amending the ordinance in this instance wasn't as easy as it
appeared at first glance.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
Chair Grabiel acknowledged receipt of Council Connection.
IX. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS
Commissioner Forrest said that a committee was formed to study transportation issues
for Edina's seniors.
Chair Grabiel reminded everyone if they were interested in the pocket neighborhood
concept to visit the website at www.pocket-neighborhood.net
X. STAFF COMMENTS
None.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Potts moved adjournment at 9:10 PM. Commissioner Platteter
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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Respectfully submitted
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