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CITY OF EDINA, MINNESOTA
PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
OCTOBER 12, 2011
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Grabiel called the meeting of the Edina Planning Commission to order at 7:00 PM.
II. ROLL CALL
Answering the roll call were Commissioners Platteter, Carpenter, Scherer, Staunton,
Fischer, Forrest, Rock, Cherkassky, Grabiel
Absent from the roll call were Commissioners Schroeder, Potts
Chair Grabiel noted that the agenda was revised. A lot division was added and an
agenda item was continued.
Chair Grabiel reported that later Karen Kurt; Assistant City Manager would introduce
herself to the Commission and tell "us" about the projects she was working on.
III. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Commissioner Staunton moved approval of the September 28, 2011, meeting
agenda. Commissioner Carpenter seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried. Meeting Agenda was approved as submitted.
IV. APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS
Commissioner Platteter moved approval of the September 14, 2011, meeting
minutes. Commissioner Carpenter seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
V. COMMUNITY COMMENT
None.
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VI. PUBLIC HEARING
B-11-09
Sign Area Variance
Fairview Southdale Hospital
6401 France Avenue South, Edina
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission Fairview Southdale Hospital, 6401 France
Avenue is requesting a 236.65 square foot sign area variance to provide for the
replacement of the existing wall sign on the north penthouse face of the building that
was permitted with a variance in 1970.
Planner Teague explained that Fairview Southdale Hospital is proposing to replace the
41 year old, 249.26 square foot wall sign on the penthouse level of the north face of the
building, with a 316.65 square foot sign affixed to the east face of the north elevation of
the building above the windows on the top of the 8th floor.
Planner Teague briefed the Commission on pointing out that Edina's sign ordinance No.
460.05, subd. 5 provides for one wall sign and one monument sign per street frontage in
the RMD, Regional Medical District. The first sign may not exceed 80 square feet in
area, and a maximum of 40 square feet is established for any additional signs, for a
total sign area not to exceed 120 square feet per frontage. Currently there is one
monument sign "University of Minnesota Physicians/Heart" on the west frontage; and
one wall sign on the east elevation, facing north measuring 249.26 square feet,
approved by a variance in 1970. There are also three monument directional signs and a
"Fairview Southdale Hospital" wall sign on the west elevation, all permitted through the
variance process in 2001
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends approval of the requested variance
based on the following findings:
1) The proposal meets the required standards for a variance, because:
a. The proposed variance is reasonable since the proposed wall sign will
provide much improved identification of the hospital for patients and
emergency vehicles on the Crosstown Highway.
b The existing wall sign is in need of replacement and it too received a variance
for sign area in 1970.
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2) The unique circumstances are derived from the emergency medical use of the
building requiring clearly legible and immediate building identification.
Approval of the variance is subject to the plans presented.
Appearing for the Applicant
Robb Gruman, Fairview Southdale Hospital and Rick Ferraro, Spectrum Sign
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Ferraro addressed the Commission and stated that the new sign and location was
essential for the operation of the hospital and emergency room. Ferraro said that the
proposed sign and its location was more visible to vehicles traveling east/west on
Crosstown 62. Continuing, Ferraro said that the sign would be internally illuminated
with a day/night diffuser.
Discussion/Comments
Commissioner Forrest commented that although she agrees with the importance of
visibility she questioned why the word hospital was smaller than the word Fairview.
Forrest said maybe the word hospital should be emphasized more. Mr. Ferraro
explained that the proposed sign as designed complies with the Fairview Southdale
Hospital branding guidelines.
Commissioner Fischer commented from his perspective the proposed sign was
proportionally right.
Mr. Robb Gruman addressed the Commission and explained that the hospital wants to
maintain its branding standards in identifying the hospital. Gruman informed
Commissioners that different locations were studied and the proposed sign, size and
location was found to be best, adding this location was visible for those traveling both
east and west along Hwy 62. Concluding, Gruman reported that the existing sign would
be removed and the wall would be painted.
Public Comment
None
Commissioner Staunton moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Scherer seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Discussion/Comment
Commissioner Staunton asked Planner Teague if the sign area standards are unique to
the RMD zoning district. Planner Teague responded in the affirmative. Continuing,
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Staunton said he has no objection to the sign; however, medical office buildings
and hospitals are usually large buildings and the ordinance limits signage to 80 square
feet and maybe that standard doesn't make sense on such large building walls.
Commissioner Fischer said he agreed with the comments from Commissioner Staunton.
Fischer said hospitals; especially their emergency rooms are life and death situations
and signage should be visible. Fischer suggested developing different sign
standards for a hospital.
Commissioner Scherer stated that she supports the sign as presented, pointing out the
new orthopedic building down the street had the same identification problem and was
granted sign variances. Commissioner Scherer pointed out that the existing hospital
sign wasn't easily visible because of the buildings curvature. Mr. Gruman agreed
adding from certain vantage points the word hospital can't even be seen. The new
location would change that.
Motion
Commissioner Fischer moved variance approval based on staff findings and
subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Carpenter seconded the motion.
Commissioner Forrest asked if two findings could be added as an amendment to
the motion as practical difficulties; location and curvature of the building.
Commissioners Fischer and Carpenter accepted Commissioner Forrest's
amendment.
All voted aye; motion carried.
B-11-10 Side Yard Setback Variance
Koren & Andy Nelson
4809 Rutledge Avenue, Edina
An 8.1 foot side yard setback variance to raise the roof
on an existing one and one half story home to a full two
story home located at 4809 Rutledge Ave.
Planner Presentation
Planner Aaker informed the Commission property owners Koren and Andy Nelson are
requesting a side yard setback variance to increase the height of their one and one half
story home with a footprint of 1,867 square feet on property located at 4809 Rutledge
Ave. The property is currently occuped by a one and one half story home with a
detached two car garage. The survey indicates that the setback from the home to the
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north property line is 4.8 feet. The minimum side yard setback required by ordinance is
10 feet plus 6 inches must be added to the side yard setback for each 12 inches the
side wall height exceeds 15 feet. The existing home is a one and one half story home
that requires additional setback for height. The home is nonconforming regarding
location and height. The propery owners are hoping to expand the living spaces on the
second floor without expanding the building footprint. The one and one half story home
will be increased to be a full two story home. Setbacks of the home will remain the
same. Spacing between properties and structures will also remain the same.
The subject property is 10,704 square feet in area. The existing home was built in 1947
and pre-dates the current side yard setback requirements and is closer to the side yard
than currently allowed.
Planner Aaker concluded that staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve
the variance based on the following findings
1) With the exception of the variance requested, the proposal would meet the
required standards for a variance, because:
a. The proposed use of the property is reasonable; as it is consistent with
surrounding properties and matches the nonconforming setback that has
historically been provided by the existing home.
b. The imposed setback limits design opportunity on the second floor.
The intent of the ordinance is to provide adequate spacing between
properties and structures. Spacing on both sides of the home is generous
given that there are detached garages between the north and south side
walls.
2) The unique circumstance is the original nonconforming placement of the home.
Approval of the variance is also subject to the following conditions:
1) Subject to staff approval, the site must be developed and maintained in
substantial conformance with the following plans, unless modified by the
conditions below:
• Survey date stamped: September 26, 2011.
• Building plans and elevations date stamped August 8, 2011
Appearing for the Applicant
Andy & Koran Nelson, property owners.
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Applicant Presentation
Mr. Nelson addressed the Commission and explained they studied conforming
locations; however, found they wouldn't work within the existing building footprint.
Nelson said they have issues with water run-off and ice dams, adding that the
requested variance would alleviate those issues. Nelson said he also informed his
neighbors of the proposed renovations and they indicated their support.
Discussion/Comments
A brief discussion ensued with Commissioners in agreement that the variance as
requested made sense. Commissioners also thanked the applicants for their thorough
application and speaking with their neighbors.
Public Comment
No comments.
Motion
Commissioner Scherer moved variance approval based on staff findings and
subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Platteter seconded the motion.
Commissioner Forrest asked if she could amend the motion to include practical
difficulties that the current position of the house and the shape of the lot created
practical difficulties.
All voted aye; motion carried. Variance approved.
Commissioner Carpenter said one other fact relative to variance approval
was the proximity of the garage to the north from the property line. This distance
minimizes any impact the improvements may create.
VI. REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
Karen Kurt, Assistant City Manager introduced herself to the Commission; stated she
was happy to be in Edina and informed them of two issues she was working on in her
capacity as Assistant City Manager — developing standard by-laws for all boards/
commissions and developing a survey for all board/commissions members eliciting
their input and perspective as Edina boards and commissions members.
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2011.0012.11a Lot Division
Eva May
5023/5025 Nob Hill
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague reported that Ms. Eva May is requesting to shift the existing lot line that
divides 5023 and 5025 Nob Hill Drive by 32.5 feet for the purpose of moving the existing
lot line away from the existing house at 5023 Nob Hill Drive. The applicant owns both of
these properties. The existing lot line is located through a corner of the north end of the
existing home. The property at 5025 Nob Hill Drive is vacant. The applicant wishes to
sell the property, and would like to eliminate the encroachment of the house on to the
adjacent lot. Both lots combined are 73,463 square feet in size. The vacant lot at 5025
Nob Hill is 34,761 square feet in size. The lot at 5023 Nob Hill is 38,702 square feet in
size. The resulting lot line shift does not create an additional lot.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the City Council approve the Lot
Division of 5023 and 5025 Nob Hill Drive:
Approval is subject to the following findings:
1. The existing and proposed lots meet all minimum lot size requirements.
2. The lot line shift eliminates the encroachment of the home on to the adjacent lot.
Approval is also subject to the following Conditions:
1. All building activity on either lot must comply with all minimum zoning ordinance
standards.
2. Any new curb cuts would be subject to review and approval of the engineering
department.
Discussion/Comments
Commissioner Carpenter asked Planner Teague if the existing home would meet all
setback requirements after the lot line readjustment. Planner Teague responded in the
affirmative.
For clarification Commissioner Scherer asked Planner Teague if the parcels had always
been separate and taxed as two separate parcels. Planner Teague responded in the
affirmative.
Motion
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Commissioner Staunton moved lot division approval based on staff findings and
subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Fischer seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
VII. CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS
Chair Grabiel acknowledged receipt of Council Connection.
VIII. CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS
Chair Grabiel told the Commission last week he attended the annual meeting of
Planning Commissioners for the cities of Edina, Bloomington and Richfield. Grabiel
said he always enjoys these "get togethers" and last week was no exception. Grabiel
reported that next year the City of Edina will host the event.
Commissioner Staunton told the Commission they are all invited to attend the
Grandview Small Area Plan open house/design charrette. The open house will stretch
over three days beginning October 25 through the 27th. The first two days will be all
day events and the final day; the 27th will be an evening event.
Chair Grabiel thanked Staunton and asked the Commission and audience to note that
the Planning Commission will not meet on the 26th of October. The Commission will
meet next on November 9th. Chair Grabiel asked for a continuance vote.
Commissioner Staunton moved to continue the Planning Commission meeting to
November 9, 2011. Commissioner Fischer seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried.
X. STAFF COMMENTS
Planner Teague apprised the Commission on the status of the sketch plan review
proposal for 6996 France Avenue. Teague noted a PUD proposal for the site was
scheduled to be heard this evening; however, the increase in building size created
issues that were absent from the "sketch plan". Teague said he believes the proposal
will come before the Commission sometime in in November.
Xl. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Platteter moved meeting adjournment. Commission Carpenter
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion to adjourn meeting at
Carried.
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Respectfully submitted
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