HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-01-28 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regular (2)MINUTE SUMMARY
Regular Meeting of the
Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
4801 West 50th Street
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Fischer, Risser, Scherer, Staunton, Schroeder, Brown Grabiel,
Forrest and Schnettler
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the December 30, 3009, meeting were filed with a
correction from Commissioner Schroeder.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
2008.0009.09A Conditional Use Permit
Edina School District
5701 Normandale Road, Edina
Construct New Maintenance Building
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission the Edina Public Schools are
proposing to build a 1,984 square foot maintenance and storage building on the
west side of the high school football field, near the entrance gate. Continuing,
Based on the comments of the Planning Commission, the shed has been
relocated from the originally requested location, which was adjacent to the
exisitng tennis courts on Concord Avenue. The School District had considered
locating the building off site, at Creek Valley Park, however, decided that it would
not be an efficient location. Equipment would have to be hauled greater
distances, at greater expense to the School District, than from the proposed site.
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Planner Teague further explained that this request requires a conditional use
permit. Concluding, Planner Teague stated staff recommends that the City
Council approve the Conditional Use Permit to build a metal accessory building
at 5701 Normandale Road for Edina Public Schools based on the following
findings:
1. The proposal meets the Conditional Use Permit conditions per Section
850.04 Subd. 4.E, of the Edina Zoning Ordinance.
2. The proposal meets all applicable Zoning Ordinance requirements.
Approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. The site must be developed and maintained in conformance with the
following plans and the conditions below:
• Site plan date stamped December 23, 2008.
• Grading plan date stamped December 23, 2008.
• Landscaping plan date stamped December 23, 2008.
• Building elevations date stamped December 23, 2008.
2. Record the approving resolution with the county.
3. The building must meet all applicable building permit requirements.
Appearing for the Applicant
Jay Willemssen and Peyton Robb, Edina Public Schools and Karen Sutherland.
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Willemssen addressed the Commission and explained the school district did
consider locating the maintenance building at the Creek Valley school site;
however, the primary utilization of the maintenance building would be to serve
the South View campus. Mr. Willemssen added with budget restraints this
location made the most sense. Continuing, Mr. Willemssen said the proposed
building would house small and large mowers, snow removal equipment, sand,
salt and vehicles. Mr. Willemssen said the building will be heated to facilitate
repair of machines, etc.
Comments and Questions from the Commission
Commissioners raised the following questions/concerns:
• Will the color of the new maintenance building match the other field
buildings —
• Is there a reason for the boxy shape of the building —
• Can the building be positioned to be more in line with the other buildings-
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• Can the maintenance building be pushed back to eliminate the gap
between the building wall and the fence — the rear of the proposed
building could create an attractive nuisance —
In response to their questions Commissioners were informed:
• The color of the new maintenance building will be green to match the
existing field buildings.
• The boxy shape of the new building best suits the square footage of the
building to accommodate the storage of equipment and vehicles.
• The location of the new building provides safer vehicle access off the
parking lot. It was pointed out if the proposed building was positioned to
line up with the other buildings it wouldn't easily fit.
• With regard to creating an attractive nuisance for kids to congregate
behind the building between the building and fence the district indicated
their willingness to add a light-pack in that area.
Commission Action
Commissioner Grabiel asked the school district to take another look at the
landscaping proposed to screen the maintenance building and suggested larger
plantings.
Commissioner Grabiel also noted that previously the school district appeared
before the Commission requesting a Conditional Use Permit to construct the
maintenance building on the east side of district property (Concord Avenue). At
that meeting Commissioners suggested that the district "re-locate" the
maintenance building near the football field. Commissioner Grabiel thanked the
district for complying with that suggestion.
Commissioner Grabiel moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit
approval based on staff findings and subject to staff conditions.
Commissioner Staunton seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
2008.0013.09a Conditional Use Permit
Interlachen Country Club
6200 Interlachen Boulevard, Edina
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission the Interlachen Country Club is
proposing to build two new maintenance buildings on property adjacent to and
owned by the Country Club, and in the current Belmore Lane right-of-way. The
site exists today with two single-family homes and the cul-de-sac for Belmore
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Lane. The two homes would be removed, and Belmore Lane would be
shortened, and reconstructed. The main building would be 20,000 square feet in
size, and the second building would be 2,600 square feet in size.
Planner Teague explained that access to the maintenance building would be
from an existing interior road off Interlachen Boulevard and Waterman Avenue.
An emergency vehicle access and gate is proposed at the end of Belmore Lane.
The applicant originally proposed a public access to the new facilities off of
Belmore Lane. However, revised the plans after concern was raised by the
neighbors who did not want additional traffic brought through their neighborhood.
Planner Teague clarified that the request requires the following:
1. Conditional Use Permit. A Conditional Use Permit is required to expand
the golf course and parking area.
2. Lot Division. A Lot Division is requested to shift the lot line that separates
6200 and 6204 Belmore Lane. The Lot Division does not create a new lot.
Land would be given to the adjacent lot, north of the proposed
maintenance builidng, in exchange for land west of the maintenance
building.
3. Roadway Vacation. As mentioned Belmore Lane is requested to be
shortened, which requires a Vacation. This would be considered by the
City Council when it considers the Conditional Use Permit and Lot
Division.
Continuing, Planner Teague told the Commission this application is essentially
the same as the previous request reviewed by the Planning Commission in
October of 2008, with the exception of a Lot Division.
Planner Teague recommended that the City Council approve the Conditional Use
Permit to build new maintenance facilities at 6200 Interlachen Boulevard for the
Interlachen Country Club based on the following findings.
1. The proposal meets the Conditional Use Permit conditions per Section
850.04 Subd. 4.E, of the Edina Zoning Ordinance.
2. The proposal meets all applicable Zoning Ordinance requirements.
Approval is also subject to the following conditions:
1. The site must be developed and maintained in substantial compliance with
the following plans, unless modified by the conditions below:
• Site plan date stamped December 30, 2008.
• Building elevations date stamped December 30, 2008.
• Grading plan date stamped December 30, 2008.
• Landscape plan date stamped December 30, 2008.
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• Cul-de-sac reconstruction plan date stamped December 30, 2008.
• Lighting plan date stamped December 30, 2008.
2. The City Council must approve the Vacation of the end of Belmore Lane.
3. Submit a copy of the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District Permit. The
City will require revisions to the approved plans to meet the District's
requirements.
4. The Belmore Lane cul-de-sac must be re-designed and reconstructed by
the applicant per city standards. Final re-construction plans shall be
subject to review and approval of the city engineer.
5. Access from Belmore Lane shall be used by emergency vehicles only.
The gate located at the entrance to the site shall remain locked, and not
be used by members or employees of the club.
6. Belmore Lane may not be used by construction vehicles accessing the
site, or for parking.
7. The buildings must meet all applicable building permit requirements.
8. All conditions required by the city engineer in his memo dated January 20,
2009.
9. Record the approving resolution with the county.
Concluding Planner Teague stated staff also recommends that the City Council
approve the Lot Division to shift lot lines with the adjacent property.
Appearing for the Applicant
Lyle Ward, Craig Christianson, Gary Zumberg, Donald Ross
Applicant Presentation
Mr. Ward addressed the Commission informing them interlachen Country Club
(ICC) was founded in 1909 and is having its 100 year anniversary. Mr. Ward
explained that presently Interlachen Country Club serves 750 families and of
those 750 families 450 live in Edina. Mr. Ward said Interlachen is an old city
course and is considered one of the top 100 courses in the country. Mr. Ward
reported in 1930 ICC hosted the US Open and in 2008 hosted the US Women's
Open. Continuing, Mr. Ward said ICC and the City of Edina have a great history
of working well together. Mr. Ward explained that the current project is
necessary. He pointed out the maintenance facility is 50 years old and in very
poor condition. The building also presents safety issues for employees.
Concluding, Mr. Ward stated the goal of ICC is to construct a safe, modern and
efficient maintenance facility.
Mr. Christianson with the aid of graphics began his presentation by pointing out
ICC is surrounded by a number of residential neighborhoods that "grew up"
around the golf course. Mr. Christianson explained that the current maintenance
building sits at the edge of the parking lot and was constructed in 1964. Mr.
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Christian said the present building is inadequate for the clubs maintenance
needs and housing ICC's ground employees. Mr. Christianson said during the
summer months ICC has roughly 30 employees that have to share a 300 square
foot locker room with one toilet. Mr. Christianson said this is difficult when the
employees are both male and female. Continuing, Mr. Christianson pointed out
the changes that were made to the larger maintenance building. The garage
doors now face the golf course, not the residential neighborhood and the wash
area has also been shifted away from the residential area. Landscaping has also
been increased to screen the buildings and parking area from the residential
neighborhood.
Mr. Christianson noted questions have been raised on where the "best place" is
to construct the maintenance facilities. With the aid of graphics (developed by Mr.
Farber) Mr. Christianson pointed out that the majority of the alternative sites
wouldn't work. Two of the five sites (Option "C" and "D") are located in an area of
steep slopes, have limited access, with no parking or emergency vehicle access.
One site (Option "B") is immediately adjacent to Interlachen Boulevard and a
residential home with no parking or emergency vehicle access. Mr. Christianson
said two other sites (Proposed and Option "A") would work. One is in the
location presented this evening and the other site is between two ponds. Mr.
Christianson stated he believes the proposed location is best. Concluding, Mr.
Christianson informed the Commission ICC held a number of neighborhood
meetings and after receiving input developed the plan before the Commission
this evening.
Mr. Zumberg said his primary concern was to assess the proposed lot division
and how it would impact the Hogan property and ICC. Mr. Zumberg noted ICC
has worked closely with the Hogan family, developing a plan acceptable to the
Hogan's. Mr. Zumberg stated he believes the division as proposed enhances the
Hogan property by providing better views of the golf course. Concluding, Mr.
Zumberg said he has found in his assessments that properties in close proximity
to golf courses have higher values as a result of their proximity to the course.
Comments and Questions from the Commission
Commissioners raised the following questions:
• Who is responsible for the gate and its maintenance
• Does this proposal require a Environmental Impact Study
• How will the removal of the residential homes and reconfiguration of the
cul de sac occur.
• Will a variance be required for the fence and what will the landscaping and
fence materials be.
In response to issues raised Commissioners were informed:
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• A gate would be provided at the entrance off the reconstructed cul-de-sac
and it will remain locked. Only emergency vehicles access is permitted.
The gate will be controlled by the City. Employees and Country Club
members would not be allowed to gain access to the course off Belmore
Lane. (This is a condition of approval)
• An Environment Impact Study is not required for this project; however, a
Minnehaha Watershed District Permit would be required.
• Two single family homes will be removed (owned by ICC) and Belmore
Lane would be shortened and reconfigured.
• Planner Teague indicated he would review the proposed fence and City
Code to determine if a variance is needed. Arborvitae, Honeysuckle and
Dogwood would also be planted along the lot line to screen the parking lot
and maintenance buildings. Overstory trees (Lindens) would also be
planted. Oaks and Spruce are proposed at the edge of the wetland.
Chair Fischer opened the public hearing.
Public Comment
Stuart Elger, attorney representing Ms. McDonald and neighbors stated his
clients are opposed to the City granting a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to
construct maintenance buildings at the end of Belmore Lane. Mr. Elger said the
placement of the proposed maintenance buildings only benefit ICC. Mr. Elger
said there is no evidence that the construction of these maintenance buildings
will promote and enhance the general public welfare and will not be detrimental
to the public health, safety, and welfare of the residents. Continuing, Mr. Elger
noted that the views presently enjoyed by residents will now be obstructed by a
parking lot and industrial buildings. Concluding, Mr. Elger stated the proposed
maintenance buildings will reduce the property values of the homes along
Belmore Lane, and asked the Commission to deny the requested CUP.
Damon Farber gave a presentation on alternative locations to construct the
maintenance buildings. Mr. Faber said in his opinion the best location is Option
A. Concluding, Mr. Farber pointed out Option A is located between the two water
bodies off of Kresse Drive where a maintenance building already exists. Mr.
Farber stated at least to him Option A makes the most sense.
Bill Weides, appraiser told the Commission he has appraised many properties
near golf courses and believes if constructed as proposed the 28 foot high,
metal, low class maintenance building will significantly impact the properties on
Belmore Lane.
JoAnne Smaby, realtor, explained as a realtor she determines home value,
adding she believes the property values in this neighborhood would be harmed if
this proposal is approved and the maintenance buildings are constructed as
submitted.
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Mr. Windham, 6233 Belmore Lane, told the Commission he's still concerned that
traffic will increase on Belmore Lane as a result of this proposal. Mr. Windham
acknowledged that ICC has indicated that the proposed gate is only for
emergency vehicle access; however, he is still concerned that others will choose
to use this as an access point.
Paul Hedblom, 6205 Spruce Road, told the Commission his concern is with
property values. Mr. Hedblom questioned why the new maintenance buildings
couldn't be built in the area known as the "chicken farm", adding this location was
also recommended by Mr. Farber (Option A) as the location that makes the most
sense. Mr. Hedblom reiterated he believes if constructed as presented his
property value would be negatively impacted.
Ms. Donovan, 317 John Street, told the Commission she lives in a sleepy
neighborhood, adding that she agrees with Mr. Hedbloms suggestion that the
new maintenance buildings should be constructed in the "chicken shack/farm"
area. Concluding, Ms. Donovan stated her concern is with property values and
the potential for noise, asking the Commission to vote "No" on ICC's request for a
Conditional Use Permit.
Ms. Marshall, 305 John Street, explained she moved into this neighborhood for
the quiet. Ms. Marshall stated now she is very concerned that "quiet" will be
broken by the noise emitted from industrial use buildings. Ms. Marshall added
another concern she has is the potential for caddy's (walking or dropped off) to
use the "gate" to gain access to the course. Concluding, Ms. Marshall said she
also believes Belmore Lane shouldn't be the only street burdened by emergency
vehicles.
Mr. Bennett, 6229 Belmore Lane asked the Commission to consider the opinions
of the individual property owners and deny the request as submitted.
Mr. Thomas Meehan, 315 Grove Place informed Commissioners he is very
opposed to this project. Mr. Meehan stated he is entitled to a quiet peaceful
existence, pointing out the general public doesn't belong to ICC. Mr. Meehan
asked the Commission to preserve his enjoyment of the neighborhood by
denying the CUP.
Robert Schweitzer, 305 Grove Place, asked the Commission to deny the request,
adding if constructed the buildings would lower his property value.
Stuart Lind, 301 Grove Place, stated he believes this proposal will generate noise
in a very quiet neighborhood. Concluding, Mr. Lind said the noise from the
buildings would be a nuisance and the proposed landscaping will not stop the
noise.
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Jill Rivard, 6224 Belmore Lane, stated her monetary worth is in her property
value and this proposal will lower that value. Ms. Rivard said she is also very
concerned with the storage of chemicals proposed for the second maintenance
building.
Barb Swanson, 308 Grove Place, stated her concern is with the storage of
industrial chemicals in the smaller of the two proposed buildings.
Ted Volk, 6301 Belmore Lane suggested that the Commission deny the CUP.
Mr. Volk stated that the majority of residents in the immediate area object to the
proposal.
Monica McDonald, 6216 Belmore Lane referred to research she did on golf
courses in the metropolitan area, suggesting that construction of industrial
buildings so close to residential properties is not the norm. Ms. McDonald stated
in her opinion the proposed buildings will be an eyesore.
Cheryl Bristol, 6208 Belmore Lane, pointed out if ICC constructs the
maintenance building as proposed her view will be of tin buildings (one overly
large), adding in her opinion nothing would adequately screen them.
Mary McDonald, 6216 Belmore Lane, respectfully requested that the
Commission deny the Conditional Use Permit. Ms. McDonald pointed out if
approved nearby residents would be subjected to light standards and noise from
the lawn mowers, and other maintenance machinery. Concluding, Ms. McDonald
said in her opinion the scale of the largest building is overpowering.
Greg Wilson, 6320 Belmore Lane, said the Belmore neighborhood is a tight knit
community and if this CUP is approved the neighborhood won't be the same. Mr.
Wilson suggested that if approved no pedestrian, car or truck traffic should be
allowed on Belmore Lane to access the golf course. Mr. Wilson also asked that if
approved special attention is paid to the type of lighting installed. Concluding,
Mr. Wilson pointed out ICC doesn't keep the current maintenance areas free of
clutter, adding what would make this maintenance area any different.
Mr. Tim Schields, attorney representing Dr. and Mrs. Hogan said originally the
Hogan's objected to the proposal, but since that time the Hogan's and ICC have
come to a mutual agreement. Mr. Schields acknowledged that ICC has been a
good neighbor allowing the neighborhood access to the course during different
times. Mr. Schields concluded that he doesn't know why the cul de sac is even
needed, pointing out Belmore Lane will end and the gate will be setback even
farther.
Commissioner Grabiel moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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Comments and questions from the Commission
Chair Fischer said one issue that was raised was about the proposed gate.
Chair Fischer asked Planner Teague if this type of gate has ever been used
before. Planner Teague responded that to the best of his knowledge this type of
gate hasn't been used in Edina; however, both the police and fire departments
are familiar with this type of gate and believe this is the best approach to gain
access to the course.
Commissioner Forrest said she is concerned that if an emergency were to occur
in the proposed maintenance area that the City's emergency responders are the
only ones able to open the gate. Chair Fischer interjected noting a resident
questioned why emergency vehicles are even allowed to access the course via
Belmore Lane. Planner Teague explained it is very important to be able to
provide an adequate timed response to emergencies that could arise at this end
of the course. Planner Teague explained the fire department in particular doesn't
want to weave through the Clubs parking lot if an emergency would occur in this
area.
Commissioner Risser asked Planner Teague if any research was given to the
alternative locations referred to this evening. Planner Teague responded that
City Staff recently received the alternative locations and to date hasn't assessed
their merit.
Chair Fischer noted the Planning Commission heard a similar request from the
Club in October. Fewer residents attended that meeting, and the focus was on
ICC working with the Hogan's to develop a plan that would be acceptable to
them. Continuing, Chair Fischer reported after three votes the Commission did
approve the requested CUP. Chair Fischer asked Planner Teague if that
approval still stands. Planner Teague responded that ICC withdrew that
application, adding this proposal is a completely new application.
Commissioner Brown commented that clarification needs to be made on the term
being used "whole/entire neighborhood", pointing out the Belmore neighborhood
is only one of the neighborhoods situated around the golf course. Commissioner
Brown said he is uncomfortable with the dialogue thus far, noting the presence of
attorneys, appraisers, etc. creates adversarial positions.
Chair Fischer told the Commission when he walked the area he observed that
the area known as the "chicken farm" appears to be naturally screened by a
berm. Chair Fischer commented if the CUP is approved as recommended could
the height of the larger building be lowered or the entire building lowered to
reduce the impact from Belmore Lane.
Commissioner Grabiel said he doesn't question the need for a new maintenance
building, one is needed; however, there seems to be other sites available that are
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less intrusive. Continuing, Commissioner Grabiel said he walked the site and
believes property values are tied to the views and the views for the residents on
Belmore Lane would change if this CUP is approved as presented. Concluding,
Commissioner Grabiel said in his opinion this proposal has no public benefit,
adding he believes the suggested location would create a nuisance for the
neighborhood. Commissioner Grabiel stated he cannot support the proposal as
submitted.
Commissioner Brown commented that if the proposed location can't be
supported how could an alternative location be supported.
Commissioner Schroeder pointed out this Conditional Use Permit request is
different from others because what actually is happening is that R-1 residential
lots are being changed from a residential use to a non-residential use.
Commissioner Schroeder acknowledged that the Club is also zoned R-1;
however, it can be argued that by approving this CUP the Commission would be
changing the character of the neighborhood by allowing the removal of single
family homes and replacing them with industrial buildings.
Commissioner Forrest commented that in her opinion this location would have
had more merit if access to the golf course would come from Belmore Lane, but
when that access was eliminated other locations should have been pursued.
Commissioner Forrest stated she agrees with Commissioner Grabiel, new
maintenance buildings are needed; however, the one proposed is overly large
and impacts the Belmore neighborhood.
Commissioner Staunton said what he understood from the presentations by both
Mr. Christianson and Mr. Faber was that three of the suggested locations for the
maintenance buildings wouldn't work and two would. One is in the location
before the Commission this evening and the other is Option A near/in the
"chicken farm" area. Continuing, Commissioner Staunton said he was also
struck by the size of the larger maintenance building, reiterating it's big.
Commissioner Staunton commented if ICC would entertain the suggestion of
locating the maintenance buildings in the "chicken farm" area (Option A) how
would that impact the neighbors on Kresse Circle, pointing out the Commission
may hear the same type of opposition from that neighborhood. Concluding,
Commissioner Staunton suggested that the size of the larger building be
reduced, noting there is merit in locating the maintenance buildings in an area
where one already exists.
Commissioner Scherer commented that regardless of the need for new
maintenance facilities in her opinion the size of the larger building is just too
much. Commissioner Scherer said she is also disappointed with the façade and
exterior building materials used on the proposed maintenance buildings, adding
they need to be "dressed up".
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The discussion continued with Commissioners acknowledging that ICC did
respond to their suggestions from the October meeting; however, in the opinion
of the majority of Commissioners the proposed maintenance buildings could be
situated in a different location, pointing out the area between the ponds already
house a maintenance building and that may be the logical location for these
buildings.
It was noted by representatives of ICC that the size of the larger building is the
result of consolidating all other maintenance buildings.
The discussion continued with representatives requesting that the Commission
table their request to allow them time to review their options.
Commission Action
Commissioner Schroeder (at the request of the applicant Interlachen
Country Club) moved to table 2008.0018.09a to an unspecified date with the
requirement that the applicant provide the City with a letter waiving the 120
day requirement. Commissioner Staunton seconded the motion.
Commissioner Brown suggested that the neighbors and applicant work together
to find some common ground.
All voted aye; motion to table 2008.0018.09a approved.
III. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Election of Vice Chair:
Commissioner Brown moved to nominate Kevin Staunton as Vice-Chair.
Commissioner Schroeder seconded the motion.
Chair Fischer asked Commissioners if there are any other nominations. Being
none Chair Fischer called for the vote.
All voted aye to approve the nomination and elect Commissioner Staunton
as Vice-Chair.
Chair Fischer told Commissioners he would like to set as a goal for 2009 that the
Commission re-evaluate the Zoning Ordinance and amend the Ordinance where
appropriate.
Commissioner Scherer told Commissioners that in looking back over the past
three years she found she is very proud of some projects and not so proud of
others. Commissioner Scherer opined that as the Commission moves forward it
may be appropriate to also look backward, focusing on past projects, good and
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bad. Commissioner Scherer suggested scheduling a work session on "re-
visiting" past actions. Chair Fischer stated he thinks that's a good idea which
could include a bus tour.
Advisory Board Updates:
Commissioner Risser liaison to the Energy and Environment Commission (EEC)
informed the Commission the EEC has submitted two Senior May-Term projects
to the Edina High School.
Commissioner Brown liaison to the Transportation Commission reported that
SAC has completed their report on the West 70th Street project(s), adding the
City Council will hear the SAC report at their February 3, meeting.
Planner Teague reminded Commissioners of their upcoming work session with
the Council on February 3rd.
IV. PUBLIC COMMENT:
No public comment
V. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Risser moved adjournment at 10:30 PM. Commissioner
Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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