HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-04-08 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regular (2)MINUTE SUMMARY
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
4801 West 50th Street
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Julie Risser, Nancy Scherer, Kevin Staunton, Michael
Schroeder, Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest, Jeff Carpenter and Patrick
Schnettler
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Steve Brown
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague, Jackie Hoogenakker and Kris Aaker
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTE SUMMARY:
The minutes of the January 28, 2009, Planning Commission meeting were
filed as submitted.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
2009.0001. Lot Division
A. James Bailey Jr.
7340 Cornelia Drive, Edina
Presentatin by Planner
Planner Teague addressed the Commission and explained the applicant is
proposing to split the existing lot into two lots to create a lot line separation of the
existing double-dwelling at 7338 and 7340 Cornelia Drive. There are several
duplexes in this neighborhood that have been divided in a similar manner. Most
of these duplexes were constructed with a fire-rated wall separating the two
units. It is assumed that this structure was similarly constructed. However, if it
was not, the applicant has agreed to construct the necessary fire-wall between
the two units. This would provide protection for each unit, should there be a fire
on the other side.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the city council approve
the lot division as requested, subject to the following condition:
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1. The two units must be separated by a fire-wall as approved by the building
official. The approving resolution dividing the two lots will not be filed at
Hennepin County prior to the building official's review and approval of a
wall separating the two units.
Comments and Questions from the Commission
Commissioner Risser asked Planner Teague if it's found that there isn't a firewall
between the two units would a firewall need to be retro fitted. Planner Teague
responded in the affirmative, adding the lot division resolution would not be filed
unless/until the firewall is in place.
Chair Fischer asked who determines compliance. Planner Teague responded
the building official determines compliance. The property owner is required to
provide the building official with documentation verifying the structure was
constructed with a firewall, or if it wasn't that a firewall would be "fitted" and
verified. Planner Teague explained the building official will inform him when the
building code requirement is met and the city attorney will file the resolution.
Commission Action
Commissioner Staunton moved to recommend lot division approval based
on staff findings and subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Grabiel
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commissioner Risser suggested that having or not having a firewall should be
known before a lot division application is made.
2009. Conditional Use Permit
Edina Public Schools
5701 Benton Avenue, Edina
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague told the Commission Edina Public Schools are proposing to
expand their parking lot and reconfigure their bus pick-up and drop-off area at
Countryside School located at 5701 Benton Avenue.
Specifically the number of parking spaces would increase from 77 to 90 stalls by
expanding and restriping the lot on the east side of the building. The bus pick-up
and drop-off area would be reconfigured on the north side of the building by
eliminating the drive-aisland, and creating diagonal spaces for the buses. The
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east lot improvements would be done in 2009, and the north lot reconfiguration
would be done in 2010.
The request requires a conditional use permit for the expansion of parking
spaces on the east side of the building.
Planner Teague concluded that staff recommends that the City Council approve
the Conditional Use Permit to expand the parking area for Countryside School at
5701 Benton Avenue.
Approval is based on the following findings:
1. The proposal meets the Conditional Use Permit conditions per Section
850.04 Subd. 4.E, of the Edina Zoning Ordinance.
2. The proposal meets all applicable Zoning Ordinance requirements.
Approval is also subject to the following conditions:
1. The site must be developed and maintained in conformance with the
following plans:
• Site plan date stamped February 27, 2009.
• Grading plan date stamped February 27, 2009.
• Landscaping plan date stamped February 27, 2009.
• Finishing plans date stamped February 27, 2009.
2. A grading permit is required for the improvements.
3. A lighting plan must be submitted with the grading plan, and must meet all
minimum zoning ordinance requirements.
4. All conditions required by the City Engineer in his review memo dated
April 2, 2009.
Appearing for the Applicant:
Jonathan Duesman, Anderson-Johnson Associates
Commission Comments and Questions
Commissioner Grabiel asked why this request requires a CUP. Planner Teague
responded that increasing the parking by 13 stalls triggers a CUP.
Commissioner Schroeder asked if a landscaping plan is required for the CUP.
Planner Teague responded that current landscaping meets code, no further
landscaping is required; however, the school district is proposing additional
plantings around the maintenance building and rain garden.
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Commissioners also asked for clarification on the following:
• Redesign of bus area
• Rain Garden
• Phasing
Applicant Presentation:
Mr. Duesman addressed the Commission and explained the intent of the school
district is to improve traffic flow, circulation and parking for Countryside School.
Mr. Duesman clarified the following points previously raised by Commissioners:
• The bus area has been redesigned to allow the buses to stop four feet shy
of the curb. This creates the exact turning radius to allow buses to drive
straight out, eliminating the need for a bus to back up.
• Originally the rain garden was proposed at 18" inches; however, in
working with the Watershed District that depth was increased to between
24 and 26 inches. Excavating will also be implemented to increase
infiltration rates.
• Budgetary restraints created the need to do the improvements in phases.
Commissioner Carpenter asked Mr. Duesman if he knows the "drainage time" for
the rain garden. Mr. Duesman said it is his understanding that the rain garden
has a 48 hour drainage period. Commissioner Carpenter asked Mr. Duesman if
the "rain garden" could poise a safety concern for the children. Mr. Duesman
responded that is a good question, adding children should be watched and
monitored when they are outdoors. Commissioner Carpenter suggested fencing.
Mr. Duesman responded that could be discussed.
Commissioner Risser asked Mr. Duesman if a bike path was ever considered.
Mr. Duesman said that was not addressed.
Chair Fischer opened the public hearing for comment.
Public Comment
Molly Urbanski, 5800 Stuart Avenue, told the Commission that in her opinion
Countryside doesn't have enough parking. She informed the Commission there
are times the teachers' park in the Good Samaritan parking lot and walk to
school. Ms. Urbanski said she is also worried about the safety of the school
children informing Commissioners that times have changed, more and more
children are dropped off by a parent. Ms. Urbanski pointed out that a number of
Countryside students live in Edina; but their homes are located in the Hopkins
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School District, adding Edina doesn't provide those students bus service. This
creates more traffic and children "running" from their vehicles into school. Ms.
Urbanski stated in her opinion the school district is only putting a Band-Aid on the
problem, reiterating the school district needs to develop a long term parking,
circulation and drop-off plan to safely control and funnel traffic, adding a traffic
study would be a good place to start. Ms. Urbanski submitted photos depicting
the traffic and parking in the area.
Concluding, Ms. Urbanski referred to an area of asphalt to the west that is slated
to be seeded and suggested that the asphalt remain as is. Ms. Urbanski said
during elections the teachers' park on that asphalt and it appears to work well.
Robert Bredt, 5704 Benton Avenue stated that in his opinion parking has become
a nuisance. Mr. Bredt asked if there is a city code requiring dumpsters to be
screened, and if there is, something needs to be done to screen the schools
dumpsters from the nearby residential homes. Continuing, Mr. Bredt told the
Commission during heavy rains a large water puddle already forms in the area
marked for a water-garden questioning if the water-garden is even needed.
Concluding, Mr. Bredt reiterated parking and drop off is a problem, adding he
requested no-parking signs on his street, but was voted down.
Mary Bredt, 5704 Benton Avenue told the Commission parking occurs in front of
her house on a daily basis. Mrs. Bredt stated in her opinion this is a safety issue,
pointing out children are continually darting across Benton Avenue to get to
school, adding it's hard to believe no one has been hurt. Mrs. Bredt asked that
no parking signs be erected.
Commissioner Risser moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Scherer seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commission Questions and Comments:
Commissioner Scherer asked Planner Teague if a traffic study was done.
Planner Teague responded this request did not require a traffic study, pointing
out this request does not generate additional traffic. Planner Teague reiterated
the school district is requesting the CUP to increase parking and aid in
circulation. The expansion of the parking lot to 90 spaces brings the parking lot
into compliance with Code. Code requires 83 stalls and presently 77 stalls are
provided. Concluding, Planner Teague noted the requested CUP, albeit
completed in two phases is an improvement.
Chair Fischer asked Planner Teague if a traffic study was done who would do it.
Planner Teague responded the School District could volunteer to do a traffic
study or the Commission could direct the Traffic Safety Board to review the traffic
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patterns at the school. Planner Teague reported the City of Edina has a part-
time Traffic Safety Coordinator (Boyd Tate) who responds to traffic issues.
Commissioner Schroeder asked Mr. Duesman if he ever considered putting the
rain garden where the island is in the parking lot where the storm water is being
generated. Mr. Duesman responded that was considered; however, because of
the size of the rain garden it would need to be shifted to the south which would
create some difficulties due to the hill.
Commissioner Risser referred to the asphalt area that's proposed to be seeded.
She noted Ms. Urbanski indicated that this area is used for parking during
elections, adding maybe it should remain that way. Mr. Duesman explained that
the school district has indicated this area isn't used and the district made the
decision to seed it.
A discussion ensued with Commissioners acknowledging that congestion does
occur at this school and that there clearly is a drop off issue; however, when
focusing on the plan presented Commissioners acknowledged it would be an
improvement. Continuing the discussion it was noted that the requirements for
granting a CUP have been met and there is no reason not to support the
proposal as presented. Concluding Commissioners suggested if the CUP is
granted that two conditions of approval should be added to the motion that
address the dumpsters and direct the Traffic Safety Coordinator to review the
traffic patterns, circulation and parking at Countryside to ensure the safety of
Edina's children.
Commissioner Scherer stated she can't support the CUP, adding in her opinion
there is a "bigger" picture that needs to be addressed.
Commission Action
Commissioner Staunton moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit
approval based on staff findings; and subject to staff conditions; including
the following further conditions:
1. The dumpster area is to be screened from view by
the residential properties;
2. The Traffic Safety Coordinator is to review the
traffic patterns and parking around the school
Commissioner Schroeder seconded the motion. Ayes; Risser, Staunton,
Schroeder, Grabiel, Forrest, Carpenter, Fischer. Nay, Scherer. Motion
carried.
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III. PUBLIC COMMENT:
No additional public comment.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
Attendance Requirements — Cary Teague
Planner Presentation
With graphics Planner Teague explained to Commissioners the attendance
requirements for Edina's Boards and Commissions.
Commissioner Grabiel posed a question to Planner Teague — How do you know
you have a meeting? Clarifying Commissioner Grabiel pointed out the Planning
Commission expects to hold several additional meetings in 2009 to discuss
changes to the Zoning Ordinance, adding it's possible some of those meetings
would occur during summer months when people are on vacation. Continuing,
Commissioner Grabiel said if a work session (of the whole) was called to order
and the meeting wasn't adjourned, but continued, would a member be in good
standing if (s)he attended the first meeting but not the second. Planner Teague
responded that he would consider that scenario two separate meetings.
Chair Fischer said the comments from Commissioner Gabriel should be
considered. Chair Fischer stated he is concerned with attendance policies. He
noted changes made to Edina's Comprehensive Plan are required to be reflected
in the Zoning Ordinance. Amending the ordinance will require "extra" monthly
work sessions for Commissioners. "Special" meetings could also be called which
require Commission attendance. All these "regular/special" meetings could place
a Commissioner in jeopardy.
Continuing, Chair Fischer asked Ms. Hoogenakker to send Commissioners a
2009 calendar indicating Planning Commission and work session meeting dates,
adding if any Commissioner has a conflict in attending a work session that
session could be rescheduled. Chair Fischer stated his intent is to prevent
dismissal if a Commissioner misses three meetings in a row, adding a balance
needs to be established. Concluding, Chair Fischer told the Commission he will
address the Council on attendance concerns.
Zoning-Ordinance Re-write
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Chair Fischer referred to the "outline/Table of Contents" contained in the packet
and told the Commission on April 21, 2009, he will address the Council on
developing a work plan to re-write/amend Edina's zoning ordinance.
Planner Teague presented to the Commission the outline/Table of Contents.
V. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer reminded the Commission that on April 28, 2009, at 6:00 PM at the
Edina Senior Center (Sherwood Room) the Edina Planning Commission will host
a joint meeting between Edina, Bloomington and Richfield. Chair Fischer said
this event will coincide with Minnesota hosting the annual Planning Conference.
Chair Fischer said the guest speaker will be Gregory Dale.
Chair Fischer acknowledged receipt of the Council Connection and asked
Commission liaisons if they have any updates they would like to share.
Commissioner Forrest said the Heritage Preservation Board is still taking
nominations for the Heritage Award.
Commissioner Risser informed the Commission the Environment and Energy
Commission is forming a water-quality work group.
Commissioner Scherer noted that it appears that the City of Edina has been
removed from any "rail talk", adding the Commission may want to discus this
sometime in the future.
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved meeting adjournment at 9:00 PM.
Commissioner Staunton seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.