HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-09-30 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regular (2)MINUTE SUMMARY
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:00 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
4801 50th Street West
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Jeff Carpenter, Kevin Staunton, Michael Schroeder,
Steve Brown, Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest and Karwehn Kata
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Nancy Scherer and Julie Risser
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the September 2, 2009, meeting were filed as submitted.
Chair Fischer welcomed Karwehn Kata, new student member to the
Commission. Mr. Kata is a junior at Edina High School.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
2009.0004.09d David Werner
6875 Washington Avenue, Edina
Request: Amend Zoning Ordinance 850
Planner Presentation
Planner Teague informed the Commission that David Werner has requested that
the City of Edina amend its Zoning Ordinance to allow automobile service
centers in the Planned Industrial District (PID). Planner Teague explained that
currently the Zoning Ordinance only allows automobile service centers in the
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Planned Commercial District-4 (PCD-4). Automobile service centers are not
allowed in the PID.
The applicant would like to locate an automobile service center business at 6875
Washington Avenue, which is a property zoned PID. The PCD-4 Zoning District
was created as an area specifically to allow automotive service centers.
However, when the PID was created it did not include automobile service center
as a use that would be allowed.
Planner Teague explained that after considering the request staff believes the
Planning Commission has the following four options to consider while proceeding
with the proposed Ordinance amendment:
1. Deny the proposal as requested, as auto repair would not be consistent
with the uses within the PID, Planned Industrial District.
2. Recommend approval of the attached ordinance that would make auto
repair a permitted use within the PID, Planned Industrial District.
If approved, this alternative would require Planning Commission,
Transportation Commission and City Council review if a building on a site
is torn down and replaced, or if there would be a 10% expansion to an
existing building. If a building is simply remodeled for the use, staff review
would be required. An example would be the recent review for Murphy
Automotive at 70th and Cahill, where the existing building was torn down
and rebuilt, and the project received full Commission and Council review.
3. Recommend approval of the attached ordinance that would make auto
repair a conditionally permitted use. Planning Commission, Transportation
Commission and City Council review would be required for any
introduction of this use on a site.
4. Table the request for additional information.
Concluding Planner Teague sated staff would recommend allowing auto repair in
the PID, as a permitted use similar to the PCD-4 District, with the added
conditions that would be required for all auto repair uses, and not establishing
minimum or maximum lot sizes in the industrial district. Planner Teague added
that should the Planning Commission recommend that a Conditional Use Permit
be required, staff would recommend that a Conditional Use Permit also be
required for these uses within the PCD-4 District.
Commission Discussion
Commissioner Grabiel asked Planner Teague his reasoning for supporting option
three vs. option four. Planner Teague responded that automobile service centers
are permitted uses in the PCD-4 zoning district and allowing them as a permitted
use in the PID zoning district would make sense because the intensity of an
automobile service center matches the intensity of many other permitted
industrial uses. Planner Teague concluded he would have no problem
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supporting the amendment as a conditional use if the Commission deems that
more appropriate.
The discussion continued with Commissioners clarifying and raising the
following:
• It was acknowledged that within the City there is limited opportunity to add
additional PCD-4 zoning districts.
• Permitted Principle and Accessory use vs. Conditional Use:
Commissioners discussed the merits of amending the ordinance to allow
automobile service centers as a permitted use, either as principle or
accessory. Commissioners expressed unease at "going this route".
Commissioners pointed out that if automobile service centers were a
permitted use the entire PID zoning district would be impacted, and there
would be no Commission or Council review unless the building were razed
or expanded as previously mentioned by staff. If it were permitted as a
Conditional Use every request would be reviewed.
A number of Commissioners indicated they could support an amendment
to the code that would allow automobile repair as a conditionally permitted
use. This change would be more site specific and require review at both
Commission and Council levels.
• Rezone the site:
It was mentioned since the City already has a zoning classification for this
type of land use that industrial sites (where appropriate) could be rezoned
to PCD-4. It was also observed that there are differences within the
PCD-4 zoning designation itself — straight automobile services or gas
stations with services, pointing out that these differences could impact
internal traffic flow especially if the rezoning was for gas and services.
Commissioners also acknowledged if a site were rezoned to PCD-4 on a
multi-tenant site difficulties could arise. Commissioners indicated rezoning
an industrial site to PCD-4 would not be an option they would readily
consider.
The discussion continued with Commissioners expressing the opinion that it
appears that once again the Commission is reacting to a specific request from a
property owner to amend the code. Amending the code during the zoning
ordinance update process may not be in the best interest of the City.
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Commission Action
Commissioner Brown moved denial of the requested ordinance
amendment based on the broad sweeping impact the request would have
on the PID zoning district. Commissioner Grabiel seconded the motion.
Ayes, Schroeder, Brown, Grabiel, Forrest. Nay; Carpenter, Staunton,
Fischer. Request denied 4-3.
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
Small Area Plans
Planner Presentation
Chair Fischer asked the Commission to recall a previous ordinance amendment
request (located in the Valley View/Wooddale neighborhood) that would allow the
continued use of an existing pharmacy drive-thru for a proposed
restaurant/coffee shop use. Chair Fischer noted at that time concern was
expressed that in "real time" it was very difficult to act on a request in a
neighborhood that has been identified as needing a small area plan. Continuing,
Chair Fischer said he approached Commissioner Schroeder and asked him to
formulate a draft on a process for a small area plan that would be community-
based. Concluding, Chair Fischer said he and Commissioner Schroeder felt that
a good project to initiate this "process" would be the new public works facility.
Commissioner Schroder addressed the Commission and explained that as a
direct result of past meetings it was found that residents had indicated that they
want more involvement in the development of small area plans. Commissioner
Schroeder said the purpose of this outline/guide would be to align people around
an idea and quickly (4+ weeks) formulate a plan to follow when reviewing a small
area plan. This "plan" would be created by a citizen committee as a guide,
adding it could be considered the start of the formal plan. Commissioner
Schroeder outlined 12 activities for the process; 1) "kick-off" meeting
2) Coordination meeting 3) Site investigation 4) Developer roundtable
5) Site tour 6) Focus group session 7) Community meeting 8) Design charrette
9) Open house 10) Refinement charrette 11) Planning Commission 12) City
Council. The process also contains an involvement process with four
components: 1) Technical Advisory Group/TAC which consists of City staff and
other agency representatives. 2) Community Advisory Team/CAT which would
consist of a team leader, and members of the planning and transportation
commissions, representative from the Emergency and Environment Commission
and community representatives (property owners, business owners, etc). 3)
Design Team consisting of a team leader, architects, landscape architects,
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planners, transportation experts, market/real estate specialists etc. and lastly, 4)
Public.
Chair Fischer said he envisions the need for this "process" to be tested out;
reiterating in his opinion a good "project" to test this process may be with the new
public works facility. Chair Fischer stated he has had discussions with the
Mayor, Mr. Hughes and Ms. Worthington on this concept and the"testing "of this
plan on the public works facility could conceptually happen in February
A discussion ensued regarding the small area plan process and outline with the
following comments from the Commission:
• The quick process can be envisioned for the Morningside/44th,
WooddaleA/alley View, and 70th & Cahill areas - but with larger areas such
as 50th & France and the greater Southdale area it may take much longer
to develop the right plan
• The proposed plan is being proactive and gives both the developers and
residents guidance
• An important detail would be the composition of the "community advisory
team" — the makeup of the "team" lends credibility to the process
• The Planning Commission should have more involvement (right from the
start) with the development of small area plans, not at the end
• How does one select residents for the community advisory team (?) — the
team should be non-political — It is also important when a small area plan
is being reviewed to keep the entire community in mind, not only those
that live in close proximity to the "small area" under consideration — while
their input is very important care must be given to the process and how
residents that don't attend the meetings are represented. The City doesn't
want those residents disenfranchised. It was acknowledged that this was
a good point and when choosing a "team" make sure there are
geographical representatives from the entire City, north, south, east, and
west.
• Flexibility — could this be the bridge between the Comp Plan and Zoning
Ordinance
• Understand that while small area plans are being studied an application to
develop/redevelop in one of the areas could be submitted to the City
• Acknowledge that if a small area plan isn't finalized or adopted the City
would have little standing in preventing development/redevelopment
unless the plan has been formally recognized as conceptual; however, if
the redevelopment proposal meets code there still may be little the City
could do to prevent development/redevelopment
Concluding, Chair Fischer said in his opinion it is important to test ideas and
bring those small area plan ideas to the development community when and if a
proposal comes forward in one of the small areas identified in the Comp Plan.
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Chair Fischer added it also gives the City an opportunity to use the talents of its
residents. Chair Fischer said if this Community-based planning process for a
Small Area Plan is given the "green light" on the new public works facility the
process would begin in February. Chair Fischer thanked everyone for their input,
adding no action needs to be taken.
IV. COMMUNITY COMMENT:
None
V. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer informed the Commission the Zoning Ordinance Update
Committee will meet with the public on Wednesday, October 14, 2009, at 7:00
pm in the Fireside Room at the Edina Senior Center.
Chair Fischer acknowledged receipt of the "back of packet" materials.
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 28, 2009
VII. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved adjournment at 8:05 pm. Commissioner Brown
seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion to adjourn carried.
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