HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-10-28 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regular (2)MINUTE SUMMARY
Regular Meeting of the Edina Planning Commission
Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:30 PM
Edina City Hall Council Chambers
4801 50th Street West, Edina
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chair Mike Fischer, Jeff Carpenter, Nancy Scherer, Kevin Staunton, Michael
Schroder, Steve Brown, Floyd Grabiel, Arlene Forrest and Karwehn Kata
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Julie Risser
STAFF PRESENT:
Cary Teague, Jackie Hoogenakker
I. New Business:
Continued discussion on the updating of Edina's Zoning Ordinance
Introduction/Chair Fischer
Chair Fischer began the discussion on the Zoning Ordinance update by reporting
that on October 14, 2009, the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee held a
community input session to explain what has transpired to date and to receive
community input. Chair Fischer reported that six Edina residents attended the
session, adding what he found interesting was that for various reasons the six
attending residents were very passionate about a specific topic. Concluding,
Chair Fischer said one of the things he took away from the meeting was that
everything the Commission decides affects people to differing degrees.
Chair Fischer delivered a power point presentation to the Commission explaining
the original goal of the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee and a brief overview
of past meetings. Included in the overview Chair Fischer asked Commissioners
(who were unable to attend the Oct. 14th work session) to note two "exercise"
forms. These forms were used Oct. 14th to guide "round table" discussions,
adding in his opinion it worked very well. Continuing, Chair Fischer explained
exercise one was titled "shaping an understandable and responsive
process " and exercise two was titled "adjustments, modification, new
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elements, additions " Chair Fischer reported that blank copies of the exercise
forms and data collected from the forms and discussion from the Oct 14th work
session can be found on the City's website. Previous work session materials and
summaries can also be found on the City website.
Further Commission Discussion on Updating the Zoninq Ordinance
Commissioners raised the following topics/issues gathered from previous
sessions that need to be incorporated into the Zoning Ordinance Work Plan.
They are as follows:
• The ordinance (as it relates to development) should have an established
list of conditions, goals and intent. Should one of the conditions require
that developers meet with residents? Intent, conditions and goals should
be clearly written not only for developers but residents.
• Close loopholes. Presently side yard setbacks for garages are less than
what's required for living space. It was pointed out that side yard
setbacks for garages could become an issue in certain circumstances.
• How is the Zoning Ordinance structured? Should the City consider an
outside consultant? (It was acknowledged there are budget restraints to
consider).
• Try to develop a more user friendly way to navigate the City's website not
only to find the "rules" but other items as well.
• Again, pay attention to not only the organization of 850 but its continued
maintenance.
• Again, as the ordinance is revisited remember how difficult the "one rule
fits all" requirement is to work with and enforce. Edina consists of many
different neighborhoods.
• Stress the importance of establishing "Character Districts". As previously
mentioned one size doesn't fit all and certain areas (smaller lot
neighborhoods) are better suited for single stall garages, not two as
required by ordinance. Acknowledge when an ordinance is changed
unforeseen obstacles could occur.
• Who should hear variances — Planning Commission vs. Zoning Board?
• Variance review. What's the proper order for large developments?
Planning Commission first followed by Zoning Board of Appeals or visa
versa.
• Acknowledge there is a difference in variances. There are large
development projects that require variances and single family projects
that may be adding an additional garage stall...technically both are
variances but should they be handled the same way? Would a PUD
create a better way to hear variances (if needed) for the larger
development projects?
• Community - better educate the public. At meetings the public can
assume the Zoning Board of Appeals or the Planning Commission can
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remedy certain problems, and act on certain issues. They can't, and may
even have no business commenting on certain issues.
• House placement. On a lot with subdivision potential can the City dictate
house placement to ensure no future subdivision?
• Property owner rights. On both sides of an issue.
• Public input. There are a number of issues to consider in this arena. Is it
confusing to the public for both the Planning Commission and the City
Council to conduct public hearings. How are the expectations of the
public managed. At the meeting should the public be allowed a rebuttal
period? Differentiate between a State statute, ordinance requirement and
policy on how public meetings and hearings are conducted.
• Sustainability
Chair Fischer reported that he, along with Commissioner Staunton, will appear
before the City Council sometime next month to present findings gathered from
previous Zoning Ordinance Update work sessions and explain to the Council
where the Commission is going. Chair Fischer stated he wants to make sure the
City Council is comfortable with the direction the Commission has outlined.
Commissioner Grabiel asked Chair Fisher if the presentation before the Council
is "informational only" and if he has any expectations. Chair Fischer responded
that his goal is to keep the Council apprised of the work that is being done by the
Commission on updating the Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Staunton stated
his hope is that the Council would indicate if they felt the Commission is "missing
anything" during this process and if the Commission is "on the right track".
II. COMMUNITY COMMENT:
John Bohan, 800 Coventry Place, Edina, MN
III. INTERGOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS:
Chair Fischer acknowledged receipt of the back of packet materials.
Chair Fischer reported that the Zoning Ordinance Update Committee will not
meet on November 11, 2009.
IV. ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Carpenter moved meeting adjournment at 8:53 PM.
Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye; meeting adjourned.
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