HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-03-07 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 2002, 7:30 PM
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Acting Chair Helen McClelland, John Lonsbury, Steve Brown, Geof
Workinger and Ann Swenson
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Gordon Johnson, Lorelei Bergman, David Byron and David Runyan
STAFF PRESENT:
Craig Larsen and Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
The minutes of the January 30, 2002, meeting was filed as submitted.
II. OLD BUSINESS:
Z-01-4 Final Rezoning
Steven Scott Development Company and The Craig Co.
4015 West 65th Street
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the City Council at their December
18, 2001, meeting approved preliminary rezoning for 4015 West 65th Street.
The proponents have met all City requirements and staff recommends
Final Rezoning approval and Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Dennis Sutliff and Mr. Scott Bauder were present to respond to
questions
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Larsen if West 65th Street will continue
it's no parking status. Mr. Larsen responded that is correct. Vehicles will not be
permitted to park on West 65th Street.
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Commissioner Lonsbury observed the subject property has a gentle slope
and asked Mr. Sutliff if the proposed building will be taller than the existing
building. Mr. Sutliff said the proposed first floor would be approximately 5 feet
higher then the existing structure. Continuing, Mr. Sutliff explained the reason
the proposed building will be taller is due to the high water table on the site.
Watershed District requires floor elevation at the same elevation or higher.
Mr. Scott Bauder interjected and told the Commission two levels of
underground parking and the water level are driving building height.
Chair McClelland asked if the proposed building will be taller then the
Point of France building. Mr. Sutliff responded the Point of France building is
taller. Mr. Sutliff added he believes Point of France is around 10 stories.
Chair McClelland asked Mr. Sutliff if he knows if the present Edina Reality
Building suffered any water damage in the past because of the high water table.
Mr. Sutliff said to the best of his knowledge the existing building has not incurred
water damage. Mr. Sutliff pointed out to the Commission after the proposed
building is constructed the site will actually contain less hard surface.
Commissioner Workinger commented he is concerned with the height and
mass of the proposed building. He stated it appears to him the building lunges
toward Valley View Road, adding it will be a large presence along that expanse
of roadway.
Commissioner Lonsbury said he also has a problem with the mass of the
proposed building. He said in his opinion the view of the proposed building from
both Valley View Road and West 65th Street needs to be softened. Continuing,
Commissioner Lonsbury said to him it appears the structure will tower over the
surrounding area, reiterating in his opinion the views from Valley View Road and
West 65th Street will be impacted in a negative way by this development.
Concluding, Commissioner Lonsbury suggested lowering the building, reducing
the number of units by 8, and buffering the proposed building with plantings, etc.
Commissioner Swenson asked if the proposed curb cuts correspond with
the curb cuts across the street. Mr. Larsen said the curb cuts for this proposal
have been approved by the City Engineer and will be moved farther east. Staff
finds no conflict between curb cuts.
Commissioner Lonsbury inquired if all units will be similar. Mr. Sutliff said
the proposed building offers different living options. First floor units will have
patios with some units having their own "outside" front door. Mr. Sutliff said the
4th floor would be stepped back providing penthouse units with terraces.
Mr. Larsen interjected and explained the developers have met all the
conditions required by the City for Final Rezoning and Amendment to the
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Comprehensive Plan, and if the Commission feels changes should be made to
the plans that should be addressed at the preliminary stage not final.
Chair McClelland said while the height of the proposed building is driven
by the requirements of the Watershed District there is an expressed concern
regarding its height from the Commission. Chair McClelland suggested that the
Watershed District be informed of Commission concerns regarding building
height and consider allowing the construction of the building to be at the lowest
elevation possible. Continuing, Chair McClelland stated the proponents should
also do everything possible to provide more landscaping, especially on the
southwest side of the building.
Commissioner Lonsbury said he does not have a problem with the
proposed land use. He added he believes a residential use on this site better
suits the site than office, but reiterated he has a concern with the proposed
building height and general mass of the building. Commissioner Lonsbury
concluded its mass is more than I thought it would be at the first hearing.
A discussion ensued between Commission Members acknowledging the
presence of the high water table drives the elevation of the proposed building,
with the Commissioners expressing their desire to have the building constructed
at the lowest elevation possible and that additional landscaping be provided
along Valley View Road.
Commissioner Swenson moved to recommend approval of an
Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan from office to residential. Commissioner
Lonsbury seconded the motion. Ayes; Lonsbury, Swenson, Workinger,
McClelland. Nay, Brown. Motion approved.
Commissioner Swenson moved to recommend Final Rezoning approval
subject to Watershed District Approval, Developer's Agreement covering
responsibility for relocating utility lines, vacation of and rededication of utility
easements, and planting additional landscaping along Valley View Road. With
regard to Watershed District approval - the Commission encourages the
Watershed District to allow the 1st floor elevation of the proposed building to be
as low as possible or to maintain the present elevation. Commissioner
Workinger seconded the motion. Ayes, Lonsbury, Swenson, Workinger,
McClelland. Nay, Brown. Motion approved.
III. NEW BUSINESS:
P-02-1
Final Development Plan
Edward and Lisa Noonan
5400 France Avenue South
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Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the City Council approved a
rezoning of this property from PCD-4 to PCD-1 on June 19, 2001. At this time
The proponent is requesting a 750 square foot addition to the south side of the
building triggering the need for Final Development Plan approval.
Mr. Larsen concluded the proposed addition results in a significant loss of
green space and staff cannot support the request as submitted.
Mr. Edward Noonan was present to respond to questions.
Chair McClelland asked for clarification on what Mr. Noonan is requesting.
Mr. Larsen explained Mr. Noonan received rezoning approval on June 19, 2001.
Previously the site was zoned PCD-4 reflecting the Tires Plus automotive facility.
Mr. Noonan had the site rezoned to PCD-1 indicating he would remodel the
existing building and use it for his construction office. Renovations have already
occurred on the site and now Mr. Noonan is requesting a Final Development
Plan for additional square footage.
Mr. Noonan addressed the Commission and informed them he wants to
create something tasteful and the additional square footage he is requesting will
accommodate a "showroom". Continuing, Mr. Noonan told the Commission he
discussed his proposal with tenants of the apartment building to the south and he
believes what he is proposing will soften the impact of his building from the south
property line. Mr. Noonan said he believes there is enough green space along
the south line adding that area will be tastefully landscaped.
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Larsen if in the future because this site
is zoned for commercial could Mr. Noonan reconvert the garage space into retail
space. Mr. Larsen told the Commission any changes to the interior that add
more retail space would have to be heard and approved by the Commission and
Council. Commissioner Swenson said she has a concern that this site could
become "maxed" and parking will not be adequate.
Commissioner Workinger asked Mr. Larsen if in the future this site could
become a gas station again. Mr. Larsen reiterated any change to this site
requires a public hearing before both the Commission and Council.
A discussion ensued between Commission Members on the merits of
allowing additional square footage on an already "tight" site. A majority of the
Commission agreed with staff that a hardship does not exist to warrant the
reduction in green space. Commissioner McClelland added she usually cannot
support redevelopments that require variances, but in this case the roofline and
landscaping soften any impact.
Commissioner Swenson moved to recommend denial of the Final
Development Plan. Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion. Ayes;
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Lonsbury, Swenson, Brown. Nays, Workinger and McClelland. Motion to deny
carried 3-2.
P-02-2
Final Development Plan
Premier Storage LLC
7225 Bush Lake Road
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponents have acquired the
property and intend to convert the existing building to a climate-controlled mini-
warehouse and construct an additional two-story storage building.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the Final
Development Pan as proposed. The proposal requires no variance. Approval
should be conditioned on Watershed District approval and permits.
The proponent, Mr. Todd Jones was present to respond to questions.
Chair McClelland commented on the fencing around the site and asked
Mr. Jones if he feels the fencing is adequate. Mr. Jones said in his opinion the
fencing is adequate adding the storage buildings will be secured.
Mr. Larsen said in his opinion this is a good addition to the City. This
facility helps accommodate residents in our City that have recreational vehicles
by providing close storage options for them.
Commissioner Brown asked Mr. Jones what would be located on the
upper level of the proposed new building. Mr. Jones said that area would be
walk-in storage.
Mr. Jones told the Commission he proposes to convert the existing
building into a 100% climate controlled drive through storage facility. Mr. Jones
explained you could either drive your vehicle up to your storage door or to a
loading area. Mr. Jones said the existing building will be remodeled to improve
curb appeal and the new building will match. Landscaping for the entire site will
also be enhanced. Mr. Jones pointed out a facility of this nature is low intensity,
generates minimal traffic and is quiet. Concluding, Mr. Jones pointed out the
facility does not pollute and places minimal demand on City services.
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Jones if on this site traffic would be
directed in one direction. Mr. Jones responded the site would be a one-way
environment.
Chair McClelland asked Mr. Jones if he has met with the 9-Mile Creek
Watershed District. Mr. Jones said he met with the Watershed District and they
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informed him they found no problems with the proposal, concluding the
Watershed District will not act on his proposal until the City acts.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend Final Development Plan
approval subject to approval from the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District.
Commissioner Workinger seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
C-02-3
Conditional Use Permit
City of Edina/South Metro Public Safety Training Facility
7525 Braemar Boulevard
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission South Metro Public Safety Training
Facility Association is seeking Conditional Use Permit approval to allow the
construction of a police and fire training facility in Braemar Park.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the Conditional Use
Permit. The facility is ideally located to minimize impact on other properties. All
firearms activity will occur within the building and parking should be adequate
even when the building is fully occupied.
Mr. Tom Schmitz, Edina Fire Department and Mr. Roger Erickson, facility
architect, were present to respond to questions from the Commission.
Mr. Schmitz told the Commission the proposed Police/Fire training facility
will be shared between the cities of Edina, Bloomington and Eden Prairie. Mr.
Schmitz introduced Mr. Erickson, architect for the joint project to explain more
about the proposed training facility.
Mr. Erickson addressed the Commission informing them he has been
working with representatives from the three cities since 1996 to locate the right
site and design a state of the art training facility. Mr. Erickson explained in the
beginning two locations were considered, one in Bloomington and one in Edina,
with the end result the location and design before you this evening. Mr. Erickson
pointed out the present location better serves all cities because it is located in an
unpopulated area in the corner of Edina where the three cities meet.
Mr. Erickson explained the facility is divided into a number of different
areas. Classrooms, defensive and simulated training areas and a weapons firing
range. In addition to the 20,000 square foot facility a 7-story tower will be located
on site. This tower will be used for fire simulations. Continuing, Mr. Erickson told
the Commission the firing range would be completely soundproof so a classroom
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session could occur concurrently with the firing range. The windows of the
facility will be glass block to provide maximum security.
Commissioner Workinger asked Mr. Erickson if the facility will be secure at
all times from the public. Mr. Erickson said it is of the utmost importance that this
building is secure at all times from the public because of the nature of the
activities that occur on site and the storage of ammunition. Mr. Erickson stated
the building will be open to the public only during certain monitored times.
Commissioner Workinger asked Mr. Erickson if the facility will be "manned" at all
times. Mr. Erickson said at this time it is believed the facility will have a full time
site manager with the possibility of a part-time person.
Chair McClelland inquired about outdoor security. Mr. Erickson said the
site would be secured with an 8-foot high fence. Continuing, Mr. Erickson said
he understands the security concern expressed by the Commission and informed
them all ammunition will be stored in a locked bulletproof room in the rear of the
facility.
Commissioner Brown stated while he supports the proposal before him
this evening he has a concern regarding traffic circulation. Commissioner Brown
asked Mr. Larsen if he would review the proposed roadway configuration as it
relates to the activities that occur at the ice arena and possible distractions from
the training facility to ensure that traffic flows smoothly and safely between the
ice arena and the proposed training facility. Commissioner Brown pointed out
the road used by both facilities is curved which may create blind spots. Mr.
Larsen agreed with Commissioner Brown's observation and stated he would
inform the City Engineer, Wayne Houle of the concern.
A discussion ensued with Members of the Commission expressing support
and interest for the state of the art training facility.
Commissioner Lonsbury moved to recommend Conditional Use Permit
approval subject to staff conditions. Commissioner Swenson seconded the
motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
IV. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Jackie Hoogenakker