HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-10-29 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularAGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2003, 7:30 PM
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
October 1, 2003
II. OLD BUSINESS:
S-03-7 Preliminary Plat Approval
Eric Lind/TC Builders, Inc.
Griffit Street/Arthur Street
Preliminary Rezoning and Preliminary Plat
Wallingford Partnership
5101 West 70 th Street
III. NEW BUSINESS:
Z-03-8 & S-03-8
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
December 3, 2003
V. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2003, 7:30 PM
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Johnson, John Lonsbury, Helen McClelland, David Runyan and
William Skallerud
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Ann Swenson, David Byron, Geof Workinger and Stephen Brown
STAFF PRESENT:
Craig Larsen
Jackie Hoogenakker
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The minutes of the August 27, 2003, meeting were filed as submitted.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
S-03-7
Preliminary Plat Approval
Eric Lind/'TC Builders, Inc.
Griffit Street/Arthur Street
Mr. Larsen reminded the Commission the proponents were before them
earlier this month seeking preliminary approval of a previously approved plat. At
that time neighbors indicated they did not feel they received adequate notice of
the planning commission meeting. Commissioner's felt to avoid conflict they
tabled the meeting for one month requesting that the proponents re-notify
neighbors of the planning commission meeting and to re-erect a subdivision sign
(on Griffit Street) that had toppled over. Concluding, Mr. Larsen explained the
plat presented this evening is the same plat that received commission and
council approval in 2002. Staff supports the subdivision request subject: to
parkland dedication and watershed district permits if needed.
The proponent Mr. Eric Lind along with interested neighbors was present.
Commissioner McClelland asked Mr. Larsen if he would point out to her
the path proposed to "hook up" with the regional pathway system. With graphics
Mr. Larsen indicated the proposed 10-foot path running parallel to Arthur Street
connecting to the regional pathway system.
Mr. Eric Lind, proponent addressed the Commission and apologized to
them for having to hear this subdivision request once again. Mr. Lind explained
working with the neighbors and other events caused him to exceed the one-year
time requirement for final plat.
Chairman Johnson asked Mr. Lind if there is anything different in this plat
from the plat that received preliminary approval. Mr. Lind responded this plat is
exactly the same plat that received preliminary approval from both the Planning
Commission and City Council.
Commissioner Runyan asked Mr. Lind when grading of the site would
begin. Mr. Lind said the majority of grading is proposed to be done in the Spring.
Continuing, Mr. Lind explained it is his belief the site will be developed in two
phases with the grading and utility prep being done on the Griffit Street lots first.
Commissioner Runyan asked if the proposed houses are going to be spec
or custom. Mr. Lind said at this time he has a list of potential property owners
who are excited about this location because their children attend or will attend
the Blake School. Continuing, Mr. Lind added his intent is to construct one "spec
model " home for the Parade of Homes with the other four sites custom homes.
Commissioner Runyan commented it appears some areas of the site will require
fill. Mr. Lind responded that is correct and it is hoped there is enough material on
this site to accomplish any fill needs.
Commissioner McClelland questioned if a site has been chosen for the
"model home". Mr. Lind said he believes at this time the model home will be
constructed on the north most Griffit Street lot. Continuing, Mr. Lind pointed out
this lot is the most challenging of the five and he wants to ensure that
development and construction of the home on this lot is done to the highest
standards.
Commissioner McClelland asked if the regional path will be screened. Mr.
Lind said his intent is to retain as much vegetation as possible along that
pathway system.
Commissioner McClelland referred to a letter from a Mr. Gene Villeneuve,
313 Griffit Street that indicated concern with drainage. She asked Mr. Larsen if
drainage was looked at. Mr. Larsen responded the city engineering department
reviews all plats for drainage and this plat is no exception to that rule.
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Commissioner Skallerud asked Mr. Lind if he believes houses can be
constructed on these lots without variances. Mr. Lind said he believes the lots
are of adequate size eliminating the need for variances.
Chairman Johnson asked Mr. Larsen if the vacation of Spruce needs to be
readdressed. Mr. Larsen explained the City Council hears requests for vacations
and the vacation of Spruce was heard and approved over a year ago. At this
time the vacation has not been filed. Filing a vacation is not done until after the
plat is finalized.
Ms. Karen Lundholm, 309 Arthur Street said in her opinion since Mr. Lind
did not file a final plat in one year's time this should be heard as a fresh request,
starting from the beginning. Ms. Lundholm stated she takes this redevelopment
proposal very seriously. With graphics Ms. Lundholm pointed out vegetation on
the subject site that has been enjoyed by everyone in the area for many years.
Ms. Lundholm said she believes this is one of the few "pristine" pieces of land left
in Edina. Ms. Lundholm pointed out with graphics the large Oak and Maple trees
found on this site. Ms. Lundholm told the Commission her family has lived in the
area since the 1940's and have not considered redeveloping their property for
monetary gain. She said she understands redevelopment will occur but wants
assurances that the redevelopment of this land is accomplished with good
planning.
Ms. Lundholm told the Commission she has some points she wants to
make with regard to this proposal. They are as follows: She would like an
easement allowing her property to connect to a sewer on Griffit Street. She
explained her property currently has a septic system and is not connected to the
city sanitary sewer system. She said because of topography it is possible her
property will require a lift station, which is expensive, reiterating she wants the
connection to the sewer accomplished off Griffit Street. Ms. Lundhom said
another point is on what the Lundholms will do with their property in the future,
they also own a number of lots (off Arthur) so do they sell their lots for
redevelopment, sell their lots to Blake School or gift their lots to the City for open
park space. Ms. Lundholm said she is also worried about grading and fill on the
subject site and that her home will become isolated because their access is from
the alley and they need a large turn around area for trucks that service their
needs. She stated she would also like to see the proposed bike path moved
from Arthur Street to Griffit Street. Ms. Lundholm referred to code language with
regard to redevelopment and stated in her opinion the proposal is too dense and
does not meet the "undue hardship" language contained in the code with regard
to the requested lot width variances. She pointed out the lots on Griffit needed
the vacation of Spruce Street to apply to width, which in a sense was a "gift".
Concluding, Ms. Lundholm recapped things important to her, easement allowing
sewer hookup, and adequate alley space, address drainage, no ditch, revise
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draining plan and construct retaining wall, move bike path from Arthur Street to
Griffit Street, and identify all trees that will be removed.
Commissioner McClelland said that while she understands concerns just
expressed she said she thinks the word "gift" does not apply to the vacation of
Spruce Road. She added as she understands it that strip of land running along
the Blake School property line has always belonged to the property owners
abutting it with the city retaining an "easement' over it to develop a road if the
need were to arise. So in reality that strip of land does belong to the property
owners that abut it, it is not city property, and the City has indicated they do not
intend to use it. Ms. Lundholm acknowledged that is correct.
Commissioner Lonsbury asked Mr. Larsen if the engineering department
reviewed this proposal for drainage. Mr. Larsen reiterated the engineering and
building departments review all plats for grading, fill and drainage. He stated the
engineering department and building department have reviewed the proposed
grading plans. Mr. Larsen reiterated the same plat received preliminary approval
with grading and drainage questions usually occurring at the final plat stage. In
this instance this plat at its preliminary stages meets final plat requirements.
Commissioner Lonsbury commented on concerns raised by Ms. Lundholm
with regard to sewer hookup and asked if this is an issue the commission needs
to address. Mr. Larsen explained the easement requested by Ms. Lundholm is a
private easement arrangement between her and the proponent. The city is not
involved; those choices are private choices, not public. Commissioner
McClelland questioned if Mr. Larsen is saying an easement for hookup to the city
sewer is between Ms. Lundholm and Mr. Lind. Mr. Larsen responded that is
correct.
Chairman Johnson asked Mr. Larsen if preliminary plat approval would
include variances. Mr. Larsen responded preliminary plat approval includes the
lot width variances.
Mr. Lind told the board the need for lot width variances was a result of
equally dividing the lots on Griffit Street to 98 feet instead of the original lot sizes.
Originally the Griffit lots contained two larger lots and one lot with a lot width of
55 feet. This reconfiguration resulted in a more uniform plat.
Commissioner Runyan commented that while the Commission hopes a
proponent retains as many trees as possible the neighbors should be aware tree
loss will occur. Commissioner Runyan said it is our hope the developer will
minimize tree loss.
Commissioner McClelland moved to recommend accepting the plat
(preliminary plat approval) to include lot width variances for three (3) lots with a
lot width of 98 feet. This reconfiguration creates a better division and two feet is
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not perceptible from the street and as noted in the Council Minutes smaller
uniform lots do create a more uniform plat with houses more in scale with the
neighborhood. Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion. Chairman
Johnson said he wants the motion to reflect the commission didn't avoid the
variance issue. Commissioner Skallerud thanked Ms. Lundholm for her insight
adding he is persuaded by past action and his colleagues and can support the
motion as recommended. All voted aye; motion carried.
Commissioner McClelland questioned if the city has a tree ordinance. Mr.
Larsen said the city does not have a specific "tree ordinance". He noted at one
time a tree ordinance was considered but it was found it would not be in the best
interest of the city to adopt one. He pointed out the subdivision ordinance
establishes certain criteria with regard to tree removal.
Mr. Andrew Berenberg, working with the proponent, Mr. Lind told the
Commission he has worked closely with city staff to ensure proper development
of this site with minimal disruption. With graphics Mr. Berenberg pointed out the
grading and drainage issues present on this site. Continuing, Mr. Berenberg told
the Commission the development team also worked side by side with the city
with regard to the regional path hook up from Arthur Street, noting it is very
important to the city that this pathway is constructed as depicted. Mr. Berenberg
assured the Commission and neighbors tree loss will be kept to the minimum.
The lots will be marketed, as "treed" so retaining trees is a very important feature.
Concluding, Mr. Berenberg said the goal is to provide excellent building sites for
custom homes.
Commissioner McClelland moved to recommend preliminary plat approval
incorporating the variances subject to final plat approval, subdivision dedication
for one new lot; developers agreement and watershed district permits.
Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Z-03-8 &
S-03-8 Preliminary Rezoning and Preliminary Plat
Wallingford Partnership
5101 West 70th Street
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the property is currently developed
with a 60 unit, three-story apartment building. On October 31, 2002, the
southerly portion of the building was destroyed by fire and the owners have
elected to raze the entire building and rebuild a four-story, 119 unit building. Mr.
Larsen explained the current zoning is PRD-3, Planned Residence District and
the proponents are requesting a change in zoning from PRD-3 to PRD-4,
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Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends preliminary rezoning and
preliminary plat approval. The proposed zoning is appropriate for this site. The
site is bounded on three sides by non-residential uses, and is close to a freeway
interchange. Reusing the existing parking garage somewhat limits the number of
stalls that can be added. Total parking on-site should adequately serve the
building. The owners feel, based on their experience with the current building,
that that number of spaces provided would meet the demand.
The proponents, Vasco and Tony Bernardi were present to respond to
questions.
Commissioner McClelland questioned the parking shortages if the building
is constructed as depicted. Mr. Larsen responded City Ordinance requires two
parking spaces per unit, of which 1.25 must be enclosed or under building. In
this instance the proponents are short of under building parking spaces but over
on surface parking resulting in the need for a total parking space variance. Mr.
Larsen said staff is relying on input from the property owners with regard to
parking needs, and the proponents have indicated the amount of parking (under
building and surface) they will have on this site after redevelopment will be
sufficient.
Mr. Vasco Bernardi, 5346 Poplar Circle (residence), 7301 Ohms Lane
(office), told the Commission in his experience the proposed parking will be
adequate and the renovation of the site a plus for the City.
Commissioner Lonsbury asked for clarification from Mr. Larsen on the
number of spaces the site would be short after redevelopment. Mr. Larsen said
the site would be short a total of two (2) parking spaces.
Commissioner McClelland asked Mr. Larsen if the City has experienced
any parking problems with our multi-residential sites such as Edinborough. Mr.
Larsen said in his experience parking has not been a problem at our multi-
residential sites including Edinborough. Commissioner McClelland said she has
a concern with the underground parking ratio not being met. Commissioner
Lonsbury said in this instance he is not overly concerned about the underground
parking shortage and questioned why two more parking stalls couldn't be found
somewhere on this site. He pointed out if two parking stalls were added no
variance would be required. Mr. Larsen said to a degree that is correct but
adding those two stalls would eliminate surface green space and wouldn't
change the under building ratio where the shortage exists. Mr. Larsen explained
the real problem is with the under building parking stalls and that fact can't really
be eliminated since they are incorporating the existing under building parking
garage with new construction.
Chairman Johnson said he would like to retain as much green space on a
site as possible adding in this instance a Proof of Parking agreement may be
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warranted. Commissioner McClelland agreed with Chairman Johnson's
comment. Mr. Larsen responded since this request is in the preliminary stages
the City can look into a Proof of Parking option and return to you with the
outcome at final rezoning and final plat.
Chairman Johnson noted the plat line depicted on the preliminary plat and
asked Mr. Larsen if that line creates a situation where each building can "stand
alone". Mr. Larsen responded that is correct it has been designed to "stand
alone".
Commissioner McClelland moved to recommend preliminary rezoning and
preliminary plat approval subject to accepting the shortage of 2 parking spaces
(parking variance) and to recommend that staff work with the proponents to
create more greenspace on site through the development of a Proof of Parking
Agreement. Commissioner Lonsbury seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried.
III. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 PM
Jackie Hoogenakker
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