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MINUTES OF
CITY OF EDINA, MINNESOTA
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
APRIL 17, 2014
6:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL Answering roll call were members Bass, Boettge, Iyer, Janovy, LaForce, Nelson, Olson, and Van Dyke.
ABSENT Members Sierks, Spanhake, and Whited.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
Transportation planner Nolan called for nominations for chair. Member LaForce nominated member Bass and the
nomination was seconded by member Nelson. Member Bass accepted the nomination. There being no other
nominations, the nomination was closed. All voted aye. Motion carried.
Member Janovy nominated member LaForce for vice chair and the nomination was seconded by member Nelson.
Member LaForce accepted the nomination. There being no other nominations, the nomination was closed. All voted
aye. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Motion was made by member Nelson and seconded by member LaForce to approve the meeting agenda. All voted
aye. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 20, 2014 – Approved as corrected.
Motion was made by member Nelson and seconded by member Iyer to approve the amended minutes of March
20, 2014. All voted aye. Motion carried.
COMMUNITY COMMENT – None
REPORTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
Nine Mile Creek Regional Trail Update
Mr. Eric Nelson from Three Rivers Park District gave an update on Edina’s segment of the trail. Mr. Nelson said the
trail, which run from Hopkins to Bloomington is 15 miles and only the Edina segment is not built yet (7.5 miles). The
trail starts at TH-169 and was originally planned to go under TH-169 but will now go over instead and then down
along the creek for the most part. New bridges will be added for the trail to cross TH-62 and TH-100. Property
owners along the creek will be offered fence or vegetation as screening options which will be installed as part of the
project on owners’ side of the property line with the expectation that they assume ownership and responsibility.
Mr. Nelson said in June they will come back to the ETC with the final trail layout and to the City Council on July 1 for
final approval. Construction, which is contingent on funding, is scheduled for 2015-16 (funds are already allocated for
the east side but not the west side).
The following is a summary of the discussion: the trail will be approximately 60/40 on-road/off-road; boardwalk
railings are typically 4 ½ ft. tall; crossings at Vernon & Tracy are not designed yet; 70-75 property owners will be
allowed to pick their screening option (i.e, plantings, fence, nothing); screening do not need to be uniform but it is
hoped that neighbors might gather to discuss a consistent treatment; outreach to property owners may include
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mailings, surveys, person-to-person meetings, or group meetings; crossing at France & Gallagher will be at grade
level and the intersection will be modified to look like the other three intersections that are currently being
improved.
W. 54th Street Draft Striping and Signage Plan
Planner Nolan said the plan was submitted to the ETC for review and comment. Member Janovy commented on the
color of the bike signs. Planner Nolan will check to see why the plan includes green and white bike signs that are
different from the standard that was adopted last year.
Draft Citywide Pedestrian Facilities Maps
Planner Nolan said the maps were submitted to the ETC for review and comment. He said the maps shows existing
sidewalks and most of the sidewalks listed in the Comprehensive Plan, Living Streets required sidewalks, and the
Active Routes to School (ARTS) sidewalks were called out to show priority. He said these maps could replace the
Sidewalk Plan in the Comp Plan.
Discussion included the following: understanding how the sidewalks that are in the Comp Plan were selected
because some areas will have sidewalks while others will not; knowing where the business districts are would be
helpful because it would probably help to explain why some areas have more sidewalks than others; this is a 20-year
plan that would be broken down into 2-5 year implementation and residents would be informed about the 2-5 year
plan; and posting the completed map online.
Continuing the discussion, it was noted that the sidewalk on Valley View Rd near Normandale Church was not
approved by City Council recently and it is still on the map. The conclusion was that it should remain on the map
because although some were not in favor of the sidewalk, it is needed and staff should add justification for the need.
Some justification for sidewalks are streets with high volume traffic and speed, connecting to an area adjacent to
school, parks for safety, etc. It was noted some areas have more sidewalks because the street network varies so
much – areas where the street network are on a grid have more sidewalks.
Member Nelson asked about a sidewalk along 66th and the park at Normandale and planner Nolan explained that the
idea is to fund less expensive sidewalks now and plan for more expensive ones later on. Member Olson asked about
sidewalk in the ARTS plan in the Cornelia area where there is a large student population and planner Nolan said the
City has an easement for a sidewalk and is working with Three Rivers on funding and construction as part of the trail
that was talked about earlier. Member Iyer suggested creating a matrix to rank each sidewalk based on certain
criteria to identify priority of installation and also look for other opportunities like adding a sidewalk with street
reconstruction. Planner Nolan said staff is already doing this to some degree. Member Bass asked if staff is still
looking at identifying easements that could be used to create walkways to shorten distance for students and
constructing sidewalks next to transit stops and planner Nolan said both have been discussed in the past but not to
the level that they would be listed on the map.
Advisory Communication: Ordinance Change Allowing Bicycling on Sidewalks
The advisory communication was drafted by member Janovy and reviewed by members Boettge and LaForce.
Attachments to the advisory includes City of Madison biking on sidewalks educational handouts, City of Edina
sidewalks page from Understanding Bicycle Facilities in Edina handout, and Transit for Livable Communities article on
sidewalk riding.
Member Nelson said there was continued push back from the Police that riding on sidewalks is an unsafe practice
and that the advisory communication contained inaccuracies. Member Janovy said the Police declined to meet with
her and therefore she was not able to find out what the inaccuracies are or their concerns. Member LaForce said it
seemed like the Police and ETC is looking for the same thing but they can’t agree on what goes into law. He said it
seemed the Police want to maintain the illegality of riding on sidewalks but they don’t actively enforce the law, while
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the ETC wants to remove the illegality but continue to ride on the street. He said in general, all would probably agree
that biking on the street is safer but it is not for everyone, especially for children.
Member Boettge said if it is illegal they cannot educate and this is important. She also said adjoining cities allow
biking on sidewalks and they do not seem to be having issues. Member Bass suggested including in the advisory the
adjoining cities that allow biking on sidewalks pursuant to state statute. She noted that during a discussion with the
high school student council regarding ARTS, they brought up the issue of not being able to ride on sidewalks because
it was illegal but this is the only place that their parents would allow them ride which leaves them with the choice of
disobeying their parents or breaking the law. She said it will be difficult to do outreach and talk about the risks and
responsibilities if the action is illegal and furthermore, certain ages should not ride in the street. She said they agree
with the Police that there are risks for riding on sidewalks but they cannot talk about it if there is a ban in place.
Member Iyer said some ordinances are in place to stop all activities while some try to prevent extreme activities and
the police want to be able to enforce nuisance behaviors. He said it is inconsistent to want bikers to use bike lanes
and then educate them to use sidewalks. He said they are trying to solve a problem that does not exist and taking
away enforcement from the police; the data attached to the advisory shows issues biking on sidewalks; and most
people do fine riding on sidewalk. Member Boettge said the police can enforce nuisance behavior under state statute
and bike lanes are still necessary because bikers going too fast should not be on the sidewalk. Member Bass asked
why Edina is so different when state statute will do. Member Janovy said speed is the main reason why riding on
sidewalk is dangerous and while state statute does not address speeding, the proposed ordinance addresses it. She
said people will ride on sidewalk and it is critical that they are educated.
Motion was made by member Nelson and seconded by member LaForce to forward the amended advisory
communication to the City Council.
Aye: Bass, Boettge, Janovy, Laforce, Nelson, Olson
Nay: Iyer
Motion carried.
Traffic Safety Committee Report of April 2, 2014
A-1: Planner Nolan was asked if there were data to support using dynamic speed signs and he said there are none
that he is aware of but he could probably find some. Member Janovy said the dynamic speed sign modifies behavior
but not regular speed sign. She would like to see speed limit enforced at a lower level (manager Neal’s Friday report
recently noted that average speeding ticket was 15 mph over the speed limit). Member Nelson said the road is wide
and asked if they considered narrowing it to slow the speed or any other options and planner Nolan said they
discussed this and the road is scheduled for reconstruction soon and they will look at options then.
A-4: Planner Nolan was asked what the principle for the no parking signs was because there are other areas where
this could also be applied and he said issues like mail not being delivered because vehicles are parked in front of the
mail box and the request was from Park and Recreation. Member Nelson said he would like to see equal treatment
for all the parks because the same request for Creek Valley was denied not too long ago.
B-1: Planner Nolan was asked what the principle was and did the Fire Dept. comment. He said the Fire Dept. did not
comment and it was based on the draft Living Streets Plan that minimum width is 24 ft. wide on local streets with
parking on one side, plus staff and the requestor agreed that excess snow played a role in narrowing the roadway.
D-3: Change Valley View Elementary to Creek Valley Elementary.
In reference to speeding, Chair Bass said they are scheduled to meet with the Police next month so they can talk with
them about speeding and also about school zone enforcement which was brought up often during ARTS discussions.
Motion was made by member Janovy and seconded by member Nelson to forward the April 2, 2014 report to the
City Council. All voted aye. Motion carried.
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New Bike Edina Transportation Commission Working Group
Member Janovy gave a brief history of Bike Edina and she explained that to make Bike Edina a working group of the
ETC, they need to modify the bylaws. She said Bike Edina would become a standing working group and City Council
would nominate all current members; future members would be selected by Bike Edina and be approved by ETC.
Member Olson, a member of Bike Edina, said liability was a big issue and is the main reason for reorganization as a
working group.
Motion was made by member Nelson and seconded by member Boettge to approve changes to the ETC and Bike
Edina bylaws, recommend that Bike Edina become a working group of the ETC and that appointing existing Bike
Edina members and chair. All voted aye. Motion carried.
Updates
Student Members - None
Bike Edina
See ‘New Bike Edina Transportation Commission Working Group’ discussion above.
Living Streets Working Group
Planner Nolan said a joint work session with City Council and the working group is scheduled for July 1, and on April 1
a joint work session with City Council and staff is scheduled to discuss the 2015 Arden Park D Neighborhood
Reconstruction project which will incorporate principles of Living Streets.
Communications Committee
Member LaForce said they met recently and provided feedback on the Living Streets branding. Secondly, he said
there is a lot of communication regarding the project on France Ave and the benefits to pedestrians and cyclists and
their suggestion is to tap into the benefits for cars and include them also. Thirdly, he said they talked about the
language they use to describe what they are doing, like referring to bike lanes and sidewalks as amenities and
alternative transportation. He said they are providing transportation options and safe facilities for everyone, not
amenities. And, alternative transportation mode sounds like it is an alternative to the normal, presumed to be
automobiles. He said they forwarded their suggestions to Planner Nolan. Planner Nolan said it was forwarded to the
Communications Dept. for review and comment.
CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS - None
CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBER COMMENTS
Member Olson said Bike Edina is looking for new members and those interested can apply online at BikeEdina.org.
Member Iyer gave a presentation called SE Edina: Routes to School. He said the southeast quadrant does not have
good access to get across TH-62. He said the pedestrian bridge that is there now is not sufficient for cyclists and is
not ADA compliant. He noted that there are at least 3-5 access points in other quadrants of the city but only one in
the southeast. He said there are no short or long-term plans for an ADA pedestrian bridge and the current bridge
only seem to serve as access for those in the northeast to get to shopping.
Member Iyer suggested eliminating the Valley View Road approach in the ARTS plan and instead construct a new
under/overpass bridge across TH-62 near Concord Avenue and West Shore Drive to create a direct route for all of the
southeast residents to South View Middle School and the rest of NE Edina. He said over 1,200 properties would be
served by this route. He said the ARTS plan should include the best possible options and the SE Edina: Routes to
School plan should be included because it is the right thing to do.
Member Nelson said they’ve talked about improving the pedestrian bridge and asked if was planned for
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improvements and planner Nolan said there are no plans at this time. Member Janovy said member Iyer suggested
this before and asked why it did not make into the plan. Chair Bass said she is not sure why it was not included but
the ARTS plan is not approved yet so it can still be added and she would contact the consultant. Member Janovy
suggested including pedestrian bridges on the Citywide Pedestrian Facilities Map.
Member Janovy thanked member Nelson for his service as chair. She said she was in Los Angeles recently and
attended their version of open streets where they closed down Wilshire Blvd for six miles and she brought back
some handouts that included a brochure that had safety tips for all modes of transportation. She said if they decided
to do an open street, they’ll need to be very intentional and have a clear vision for why they are doing it.
Chair Bass said she presented the ARTS plan to the Edina School District Community Services Education Board and
they were supportive. She attended a presentation at South View Middle School by 7th graders around the lack of
sidewalks and icy sidewalks. She said it was a great opportunity to hear from youth. She noted the condition of the
street in front of Trader Joe’s (W. 78th) and wondered what Bloomington’s plans were for this stretch of roadway;
planner Nolan will reach out to Bloomington.
STAFF COMMENTS
France Avenue Intersection Improvements started this week and 7,900 postcards were mailed to the southeast
quadrant of the city announcing the start of the project and 10,000 brochures will be distributed by the project
manager.
Hazelton Road intersection will be improved the same as the other intersections.
Promenade Phase 4 is postponed to 2015 because of delayed construction in the area.
Bids were opened for the Birchcrest B Neighborhood Roadway Reconstruction project. Bids were submitted
separately to replace the concrete street with bituminous or repair the concrete streets. Staff is recommending
replacing the concrete with bituminous.
A small section of sidewalk at 70th and Xerxes will be filled in as part of a watermain project on Xerxes Avenue this
summer. This completes the sidewalk segment.
Xerxes Avenue Bridge over TH-62 will be closed for three months. Centerpoint is replacing a gas main near this
project area. Hennepin County will host two meetings for the mill and overlay that is planned for this summer; the
first meeting is April 23 for residents south of 60th and five days later for residents north of 60th.
Staff is still waiting to hear from Hennepin County about striping the bike lane on Vernon Avenue.
City of Hopkins is working with Hennepin County on the Blake Road Corridor Study and planner Nolan is on the
technical advisory committee. The total cost of the study is $150,000; Edina is funding $10,000 and the County
$100,000. The study area is Blake Road north of Interlachen Blvd to 36th and is for the Southwest LRT station and
Edina is included because the geographical area extends into Edina. He said he’s shared with them the desire to
maintain bike lanes and the Living Streets criteria.
Member Janovy asked if there was a link on our website for the Xerxes Avenue project and if it was time to talk to
the County about lowering the speed limit on Vernon and chair Bass asked if they’ve done a speed study. Planner
Nolan said there isn’t a link on our website and he is not aware that there is anything to link to. The consensus was to
discuss the speed limit on Vernon at a future meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned.
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ATTENDANCE
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION ATTENDANCE - 2014
NAME TERM J F* M A M J J A S O N D SM
2/27
SM
3/1
0 WS
3/18
# of
Mtgs
Attendance
%
Meetings/Work
Sessions 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 5
Bass, Katherine 2/1/2014 1 1 1 1 4 80%
Boettge, Emily 2/1/2014 1 1 1 1 1 5 100%
Iyer, Surya 2/1/2015 1 1 1 1 1 5 100%
Janovy, Jennifer 2/1/2014 1 1 1 1 1 5 100%
LaForce, Tom 2/1/2015 1 1 1 1 1 5 100%
Nelson, Paul 2/1/2016 1 1 1 1 1 5 100%
Olson, Larry 2/1/2016 1 1 1 3 100%
Sierks, Caroline student 1 1 2 40%
Spanhake, Dawn 2/1/2016 1 1 2 67%
Van Dyke, Jackson student 1 1 2 40%
Whited, Courtney 2/1/2015 1 1 1 3 60%
*Cancelled due to weather
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Allison, Secretary