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MINUTES OF THE
Edina Transportation Commission
Thursday, November 18, 2010
Edina City Hall
4801 West 50th Street
Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jennifer Janovy, Paul Nelson, Michael Schroeder, Tom Bonneville, Jean White, Geof
Workinger
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Nathan Franzen, Josh Sprague
STAFF PRESENT:
Jack Sullivan, Sharon Allison
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called order by chair Janovy.
II. Introduction of City Manager Scott Neal
New city manager Scott Neal introduced himself and gave a brief work history. He said he is
touring facilities and meeting co-workers. He was asked if there were any transportation issues
on his list of things to do. He said no but that he was involved with the TH-169 & TH-494
issues while at Eden Prairie. He was also asked how the Transportation Commission functions
at Eden Prairie and he said they did not have one.
III. Approval of Minutes
a. Regular Meeting of October 21, 2010
The first sentence of the last paragraph on page two was edited to read “…about the France
Avenue Bridge over crosstown…” Commissioner Bonneville motioned to approve the minutes
with the addition and the motion was seconded by Commissioner Nelson.
IV. Consent Agenda
a. Traffic Safety Report for October 6, 2010
b. Traffic Safety Report for November 3, 2010
No comment.
V. Community Business
Resident David Davison showed Mn/DOT’s 2030 rail map plan that has 10 corridors, including
the Twin Cities-Mankato corridor with one line running through Edina (formerly known as a the
Dan Patch line and now named MN&S line). He said the plan calls for building by the year
2030 with 5-6 long, fast, heavy trains per day, traveling at 80 mph with stations five miles
apart. He suggested the Cahill line as a cost-saving measure and as an option for relieving the
traffic along TH-169 and asked that the City respond to a current call for comment from
Mn/DOT to study the cost benefit and requested specifically that the City comment as follow:
“That Mn/DOT examine the cost and other benefits of including light rail as an alternative to
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commuter rail along the MN&S fork of the Twin Cities-Mankato Corridor.” He said they are
taking comment until December 23.
Assistant city engineer Sullivan said staff will be reporting to the Council and the ETC in late
December regarding this topic and will also include information on what is happening in St.
Louis Park with their rail line.
VI. New Business
a. Richfield Traffic Control Request
City of Richfield’s city engineer Jeff Pearson, said the city of Richfield is requesting permission
to install stop signs at 75th & Xerxes and York Terrace & Xerxes because of the new bike lanes
and also because of their new stop sign policy that calls for stop signs on north/south avenues.
Mr. Sullivan explained that the request was first presented to the Traffic Safety Committee but
was denied for lack of warrants and Council requested that the ETC review the request and
make a recommendation.
During discussion, staff was asked if this was a good idea and Mr. Sullivan said considering
the city of Richfield’s stop sign policy, the bike lanes and the trail system, that this would be a
positive measure. Commissioner Schroeder noted that Edina’s stop sign policy has no
accommodation for bicycles and pedestrians and said they should be adjusted to include them.
Commissioner Nelson motioned to approve the request as presented by the city of Richfield
and the motion was seconded by Commissioner White.
b. Whole Foods Transportation Study
Assistant city engineer Sullivan said developers are proposing to tear down the 35,000 sq. ft.
building at 7401 France Avenue and replace it with a 32,000 sq. ft. building with a similar foot
print to house Whole Foods, a grocery store.
Mr. Sullivan said the traffic study objectives were to 1) document traffic operations under
existing operating conditions; 2) assess future traffic conditions if the project does not proceed;
3) analyze future operations if the redevelopment proceeds as planned; and 4) assess the
impact of the redevelopment and recommend mitigation measures if needed; and they were
asked to look at the following intersections: France Avenue at Parklawn, Plaza Drive, and 76th
Street; Parklawn Avenue at Centennial Lakes; 76th Street at Centennial Lakes; and two Plaza
Drive internal intersections.
Mr. Sullivan said the study analysis shows the following: reconstruction will add 2100 daily trips
with 145 trips in the PM peak hour and 133 in the Saturday peak hour; intersections will
operate at acceptable level of service C or better; however, some measurements are at E;
access locations to remain the same; and no improvements to the local street network are
recommended. Additionally, he said a new sidewalk with a crosswalk and bike racks are
included in the project and that the store is along Metro Transit’s route 6 bus line.
Mr. Sullivan said staff recommends approval and asked that the ETC “adopt a motion
recommending that the traffic as demonstrated in the transportation study for Whole foods –
Centennial Lakes does not adversely affect the adjacent transportation system.”
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Discussion ensued and Commissioner Nelson asked if the construction to the north was taken
into consideration. Mr. Sullivan said yes, and that the developers’ traffic consultant was given a
computerized base model to do the traffic study.
Commissioner Bonneville noted that the access on Plaza Drive that connects the adjoining
parking lots is below grade and unsafe. He suggested stop signs to make it safer. Mr. Sullivan
said site circulation will be reviewed by City Engineer Houle and the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Bonneville also said he believes vehicles will stack on Parklawn Avenue.
Nick Erpelding with Westwood Professional Services, said majority of traffic is expected to
access from Parklawn Avenue and they reviewed cueing on Parklawn and found no adverse
effects from vehicles passing through the intersection.
Commissioner Janovy said she is concerned that the north entrance will be used by delivery
trucks and customers and asked if there will be a conflict. Mr. Bruce Carlson, development
director with Mid-America Real Estate, said they have gone over truck movements many times
and feel that they have a good design. He said most deliveries will be in the mornings and will
be minimal at 4-5 per day.
Commissioner Bonneville said the nose of the center median on Parklawn Avenue will need to
be cut back for trucks to make left turns. Mr. Sullivan said staff questioned this earlier on but all
of the templates that they’ve looked at shows trucks will be able to maneuver around the
median and the issue can be revisited if needed.
Commissioner Schroeder asked if they took into account the number of drivers going south
who may leave to the north thereby creating more traffic on Parklawn Avenue instead of W.
76th Street. Mr. Erpelding said they did take this into account and they did factor in most of the
traffic exiting via Parklawn Avenue.
Commissioner Bonneville inquired about parking ratio and Mr. Sullivan said parking review will
be looked at by the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Schroeder motioned “that the traffic as demonstrated in the [traffic impact
analysis] for Whole Foods – Cenntenial Lakes does not adversely affect the adjacent
transportation system.” The motion was seconded by Commissioner Nelson.
Aye: Schroeder, White, Janovy, Nelson, Workinger
Nay: Bonneville
Motion carried.
c. Complete Street – Jack Broz
Mr. Sullivan introduced Jack Broz with Howard R. Green. He said Mr. Broz represents one of
many companies that have been working on developing Complete Streets which is now state
statute and that after the City Engineers Association of Minnesota winter conference in
January, staff will have something more defined to present.
Mr. Broz said he is a transportation engineer and most recently he has been participating in
the MN Complete Streets Coalition, an advisory group formed by Mn/DOT. Mr. Broz showed a
video that was taped on Market Street, San Francisco, in 1906, showing cars, trains, bikers,
pedestrians and horse and buggies all using the same street and no traffic jam. He said traffic
is about travel, circulation and access and also about mobility, not speed.
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Mr. Broz talked about the historical perspective of the interstate system and how it has shaped
the future. He said the mission of the interstate system was to move faster and most design
standards have followed this pattern of wider, faster, flatter, straighter, and cost was not an
issue. He said studies show that the faster you are driving, the likelihood that an accident will
result in a fatality. For design purposes, he said engineers generally forecast out 20 years and
vehicle level of service is typically designed for a small percentage of traffic when you
eliminate things like rush hour and mid-week traffic. He said this leads to intersections like the
one at Best Buy in Richfield with wide open streets. He said this design required a lot of
money, right-of-way had to be acquired and pedestrian crossing is difficult. In a photo
illustration, he pointed to a car making a right turn, coming upon the crosswalk and asked if the
driver is paying attention to the crosswalk or oncoming traffic as he attempts his turn. He said
the only consideration given in this design was to get vehicles more efficiently to Best Buy
while other modes of transportation are secondary.
Continuing, Mr. Broz said with Complete Streets, they are looking to put back what was there
such as the ability to walk and chose your mode of transportation and doing so at a time when
funds are no longer unlimited. The definition of Complete Streets, he said, is safe access for
all users of all ages and abilities…motorists, transit users, pedestrians and bicyclists can move
safely along and across complete streets. An example of a complete street, he said, would be
to redesign a 4-lane road that has a sidewalk into a 4-lane road with sidewalk, bike lanes and
green space. To accommodate all modes he said all users should receive attention in the
design process for all projects. He said many decisions must be made early in the planning
and design process with an understanding of mobility and speed (travel, circulation and
access); however, many detailed design issues arise later in the design process.
Mr. Broz said there are indications that things are changing as illustrated in the 2010 Highway
Capacity Manual, which, for the first time in 50 years will include a multi-level mode of service.
He said design must be done with all of the varied characteristics in mind – transit, bicyclists
(commuters, recreational riders, etc), pedestrians (older, children, persons with disability, etc).
He also said understanding maintenance for all modes of transportation is important, example,
more frequent sweeping of streets to accommodate bicyclists, removal of snow, etc.
During discussion Mr. Broz was asked about similar cities to Edina that would be good models
to follow. He referred the ETC to the MN Complete Streets Coalition website as a good
resource.
VII. Planning Commission Update (Commissioner Schroeder)
Commissioner Schroeder said they continue to work on the same issues as last month.
VIII. Bike Edina Task Force Update (Commissioner Janovy)
a. October 14, 3010 Meeting Minutes
Chair Janovy said they had a visit from Mr. Bill Dossett, executive director of Nice Ride (the
green bikes in downtown Minneapolis) and they are looking to expand to either 44th & France
or 50th & France.
IX. Commission Comments
Commissioner Bonneville said he would like to keep the conversation going regarding Xerxes
Avenue and doing a traffic study with the city of Bloomington. Chair Janovy noted from an
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earlier conversation that Commissioner Bonneville had mentioned discussing restriping of 76th
Street at a future meeting.
Commissioner Nelson said he attended a tour of the station locations for the Southwest LRT
and brought back informational handouts which he gave to Mr. Sullivan. He said public
meetings are scheduled for station area planning. For more information go to
www.southwesttransitway.org.
Commissioner Workinger noted that the City has an email subscription service that anyone
can sign up for and receive notice on a variety of topics, including the W. 70th Street: France to
TH-100 project.
X. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned.