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Home My WebLink About2023-07-11 Heritage Preservation Meeting PacketAg enda Heritage Preservation Commission City Of E dina, Minnesota Com munity R oom, E dina City Hall Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:00 PM I.Ca ll To Ord er II.Roll Ca ll III.Approva l Of Meeting Agenda IV.Approva l Of Meeting Min u tes A.Ma y 9, 2023 Minutes V.Com m u n ity Com m ent During "Community Comment," the Board/Commission will invite residents to share relevant issues or concerns. Individuals must limit their comments to three minutes. The Chair may limit the number of speakers on the same issue in the interest of time and topic. G enerally speaking, items that are elsewhere on tonight's agenda may not be addressed during Community Comment. Individuals should not expect the Chair or Board/Commission Members to respond to their comments tonight. Instead, the Board/Commission might refer the matter to sta% for consideration at a future meeting. VI.Rep orts/Recom m en d ation s A.Consu ltant In trod u ction s: Hess, Roise & Com pa n y B.2024 W ork Pla n Bra instorm VII.Cha ir An d Mem ber Com m ents A.Hu m an Services Ta sk Force Prom otion B.Centu ry Hom es W ork Pla n Upda te VIII.Sta0 Com m ents IX.Adjournm en t The City of Edina wants all residents to be comfortable being part of the public process. If you need assistance in the way of hearing ampli5cation, an interpreter, large-print documents or something else, please call 952-927-8861 72 hours in advance of the meeting. Date: July 11, 2023 Agenda Item #: I V.A. To:Heritage P reservation C ommission Item Type: Minutes F rom:Emily Bodeker, As s is tant C ity P lanner Item Activity: Subject:May 9, 2023 Minutes Ac tion C ITY O F E D IN A 4801 West 50th Street Edina, MN 55424 www.edinamn.gov A C TI O N R EQ U ES TED: Approve the May 9, 2023 Heritage P reservation C ommission meeting minutes. I N TR O D U C TI O N: AT TAC HME N T S: Description May 9, 2023 HPC Minutes Draft Minutes☒ Approved Minutes☐ Approved Date: X/XX/23 Minutes City of Edina, Minnesota Heritage Preservation Commission Tuesday, May 9, 2023 I. Call to Order Chair Lonnquist called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. II. Roll Call Answering roll call were Chair Lonnquist, Commissioners Cundy, Pollock, Jarvinen, Farrell-Straus, and Varadhan. Commissioners Schilling and Everson walked in at 7:01pm. Staff present: HPC Staff Liaison Emily Bodeker, City Manager Scott Neal, and City Attorney David Kendall. III. Approval of Meeting Agenda Motion made by Varadhan, seconded by Farrell-Straus, to approve the meeting agenda as submitted. All voted aye. The motion carried. IV. Approval of Meeting Minutes Motion made by Pollock, seconded by Jarvinen, to approve the April 11, 2023, meeting minutes. All voted aye. The motion carried. V. Special Recognitions and Presentations A. Commission Member Review City Manager Neal refreshed the Commission on the Board and Commission structure and Member Handbook. He reviewed the importance of accountability and legitimacy, the process of handling conflicting opinions, the differences between sub-committees and working groups, work plans, and ethics and conduct. The Commission asked questions regarding the difference between Boards and Commissions, VI. Community Comment: None VII. Reports and Recommendations A. COA 4904 Arden Avenue Staff Liaison Bodeker updated on the background information of the existing home located at 4904 Arden Avenue. The COA is requesting an addition to the street-facing façade. The staff recommends Draft Minutes☒ Approved Minutes☐ Approved Date: X/XX/23 approval of the COA based on Consultant Vogel’s evaluation. The Commission asked questions regarding the window frames, roof, siding, doors without grids on north and west elevations. Motion made by Cundy, seconded by Pollock, to approve the COA as presented. All voted aye. The motion carried. VIII. Chair and Member Comments Commissioner Everson updated that he met with a member of the congregation at St. Peter’s Church and got information about the church. Commissioner Schilling asked about plans for some kind of recognition for Consultant Vogel to thank him for all he has done for the Commission. Commissioner Schilling updated on scheduling a gathering for former Vice-Chair Nymo. Commissioner Schilling also updated that Calvary Lutheran Church is under consideration to be acquired by Edina Public Schools. Chair Lonnquist reminded the Commission about Doors Open Minneapolis this weekend. IX. Staff Comments A. April 11, 2023 Meeting Follow Up City Attorney Kendall addressed concerns about if the Country Club’s plan of treatment being adopted by resolution is improper or in conflict with the ordinance. He also addressed the concern of individual liabilities for members of the Commission. City Attorney Kendall updated that generally, any violation of the City Code or Historic Preservation Ordinance can be a misdemeanor. Commissioner Cundy asked questions regarding why some policies are not being followed, contributing vs. noncontributing properties, clarity on terms, and levels of changes. Staff Liasion and City Attorney updated on city policies and provisions made to the plan of treatment. B. Human Services Task Force Volunteer Staff Liaison updated that the HPC is allowed only one volunteer. Both Commissioners Farrell-Straus and Jarvinen volunteered and gave a brief overview of why they are interested in the position. The Commission decided to choose Commissioner Jarvinen as the volunteer from the HPC. X. Adjournment Motion made by Schilling, seconded by Pollock, to adjourn the meeting at 8:07 pm. All voted aye. The motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Emily Bodeker Date: July 11, 2023 Agenda Item #: VI.A. To:Heritage P reservation C ommission Item Type: O ther F rom:Emily Bodeker, As s is tant C ity P lanner Item Activity: Subject:C onsultant Introductions: Hes s , R ois e & C ompany Dis cus s ion, Information C ITY O F E D IN A 4801 West 50th Street Edina, MN 55424 www.edinamn.gov A C TI O N R EQ U ES TED: I ntroductions with the C ity's new preservation consultant, Hess, R oise and Company. I N TR O D U C TI O N: Date: July 11, 2023 Agenda Item #: VI.B. To:Heritage P reservation C ommission Item Type: F rom: Item Activity: Subject:2024 Work P lan Brains torm C ITY O F E D IN A 4801 West 50th Street Edina, MN 55424 www.edinamn.gov A C TI O N R EQ U ES TED: I N TR O D U C TI O N: Date: July 11, 2023 Agenda Item #: VI I.A. To:Heritage P reservation C ommission Item Type: O ther F rom:T heres a F arrell-S trauss Item Activity: Subject:Human S ervices Task F orc e P romotion Information C ITY O F E D IN A 4801 West 50th Street Edina, MN 55424 www.edinamn.gov A C TI O N R EQ U ES TED: None. I N TR O D U C TI O N: T heresa F arrell-Strauss will provide an update on the Commission on the Human Services Task Force funding opportunities. Date: July 11, 2023 Agenda Item #: VI I.B. To:Heritage P reservation C ommission Item Type: F rom:Emily Bodeker, As s is tant C ity P lanner Item Activity: Subject:C entury Homes Work P lan Update Information C ITY O F E D IN A 4801 West 50th Street Edina, MN 55424 www.edinamn.gov A C TI O N R EQ U ES TED: T he members of the Century H omes work plan subcommittee will update the commission on the century homes work plan item and results of the survey sent out. I N TR O D U C TI O N: AT TAC HME N T S: Description Century Home Survey Res ults Plaque Projections Plaque Mock Up Century Homes Survey 1 / 10 63.79%37 24.14%14 5.17%3 0.00%0 6.90%4 Q1 How likely are you to participate in the Century Homes Program? Answered: 58 Sk pped: 0 TOTAL 58 0%10%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100% Very Likely Somewhat Likely Undecided Somewhat Unlikely Very Unlikely ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES Ve y L ke y Somewhat L ke y Undec ded Somewhat Un ke y Ve y Un ke y Century Homes Survey 2 / 10 Q2 If you are unlikely to participate, will you briefly explain why not? Answered: 6 Skipped: 52 #RESPONSES DATE 1 I'd want more information about what the plaque looks like, where / how it would be posted. For Q3, we would rather spend more to have it look age and material appropriate. If it looks cheap, we would skip 5/16/2023 10:12 AM 2 The brief description says the home needs to be at least 100 years old. Our home was built in 1936 so it doesn't qualify. 5/1/2023 1:17 PM 3 With the new contemporary houses being built in the neighborhood after the original homes are torn down, what's the point? It means nothing anymore. I hope we don't live in Edina anymore when our house turns 100 years! 4/28/2023 7:08 AM 4 My home is already on the National Historic Register and I have a plaque and I was on your worthless historic preservation board. 4/25/2023 5:18 PM 5 Busy family, not a priority to submit an application. If someone else would take the photo and take an oral history of what we know, we would be more inclined. 4/23/2023 5:02 PM 6 Is costs were too high 4/15/2023 1:37 PM Century Homes Survey 3 / 10 63.79%37 37.93%22 13.79%8 12.07%7 Q3 We are exploring materials, designs and costs for a plaque similar to the model below. In other cities, homeowners pay $150-$420, but we will keep the cost modest by avoiding brass and seeking a community partnership to ensure that participation is accessible to all interested owners of 100-year-old houses. Please check all that apply to you: Answered: 58 Sk pped: 0 Tota Respondents: 58 0%10%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100% The $150-$420 range is fin... I’d think twice about... If the cost is $250, I woul... If the cost is $250, I woul... ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES The $150-$420 ange s f ne, a though a owe cost s p efe ed I d th nk twice about pa t c pat ng f the cost exceeds $300 If the cost s $250, I wou d ke y app y fo a pa t a subs dy f om you pa tne o gan zat on If the cost s $250, I wou d ke y app y fo a fu subs dy f om you pa tne o gan zat on Century Homes Survey 4 / 10 90.74%49 9.26%5 Q4 Which display option would you be likely to choose if you participated? Answered: 54 Sk pped: 4 TOTAL 54 0%10%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100% Mount the plaque on th... Hang the plaque in a... ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES Mount the p aque on the exte o of my home nea the ent y Hang the p aque n a fi st-f oo window v s b e from the st eet Century Homes Survey 5 / 10 20.69%12 34.48%20 34.48%20 3.45%2 6.90%4 Q5 There is a new website, HouseNovel.com, designed to discover and share house history nationally. How likely would you be to choose to share your Century Home application photos and report on this site? This would be an optional extension, not a program requirement. Answered: 58 Sk pped: 0 TOTAL 58 0%10%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100% Very likely Somewhat Likely Undecided Somewhat Unlikely Very unlikely ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES Ve y ke y Somewhat L ke y Undec ded Somewhat Un ke y Ve y un kely Century Homes Survey 6 / 10 Q6 Do you have any other suggestions or questions you want to share for the Century Homes Program? Answered: 21 Skipped: 37 #RESPONSES DATE 1 Thank you for making this Program available. I do plan to participate. (While I believe my homies noteworthy, I am pretty sure it's pretty darn modest & not so very worthy of a lot of attention.) 6/1/2023 4:55 PM 2 I’d love to be able to find out more information on my house. I went to the assessors office when we moved in and got copies of a few pictures—but would love more info that I’m sure the city has in their files. 5/24/2023 4:28 PM 3 I think it is a great idea to recognize and honor these historical homes, particularly since they seem increasingly threatened by development and teardowns. 5/1/2023 11:27 AM 4 Is the oval marker pictured actually what you have in mind? Just wondering if something more historic/old looking (vs this one, which candidly looks pretty modern) would suit these older homes better. I’d be more interested if they were square/rectangular and more in the style of the homes. 4/30/2023 9:42 PM 5 I would prefer to post the sign at the edge of our property where people can see it.4/29/2023 10:37 AM 6 Great idea! I think this a is a fantastic way to honor the neighborhood and recognize its historic status. 4/28/2023 3:52 PM 7 Security issues are always a concern when sharing addresses and details of a home. My decision is based on how much personal information is needed on a network that may not be totally secure. I like the idea of having recognition of the history of this neighborhood. Our home is not 100 years old yet. So my response is forth future. Also I did not know there was a membership possibility for EHS 4/28/2023 11:11 AM 8 I would request that the plaque is somewhat small in size, please, and understated in design. The provided example looks fine. 4/28/2023 9:33 AM 9 I think it would be super cool to process all for the century homes through Just Deeds at the same time- remove the racial covenants when we celebrate the history. 4/28/2023 12:59 AM 10 Would love to learn about the history of my house...previous owners, the builder etc.4/27/2023 3:11 PM 11 Where can we access old photos of our homes?4/27/2023 2:53 PM 12 Suggestion: rewrite question #3. None of those options applied to me and it's a required question. One option should be something like, "$150-$450 is fine." Anyhow, I just think it's a terrific idea and the program has my full support. 4/27/2023 2:21 PM 13 Edina magazine or some other citywide publication should begin showcasing homes as they turn 100. Obviously those with the most photos and verifiable history of builders, changes tot he homes and previous occupants might be most interesting. 4/27/2023 2:17 PM 14 Find a new way to make some money!4/25/2023 5:18 PM 15 It feels like the cost of the plaques should be subsidized with a fee on teardowns for any teardown older than 75 years. 4/23/2023 5:46 PM 16 I need help in determining the age of my house.4/21/2023 8:25 PM 17 No, we don't have anything further to add.4/20/2023 2:23 PM 18 I would like to make it easier to find the history of the home...photos of what it has looked like through the ages and who/how many families have lived here. 4/17/2023 10:23 AM 19 It might be interesting to rank the homes by age. Our home is 123 years old. I do not think 4/16/2023 3:37 PM Century Homes Survey 7 / 10 there are many homes older than that. 20 Morningside has a unique history, as it's own village then becoming part of other cities,then part of Edina. It had no "red lines" laws, the houses were all unique, and owners who established Morningside were different trades/backgrounds many seeking to be on the street car line once it was built (Grimes had it's own stop even in 1909). Much of the "Village of Edina - Morningside" has changed, as things do, so it would be nice for any century + Morningside homes left to highlight them, or the importance in the making of Edina. 4/15/2023 1:37 PM 21 Very cool initiative, would be excited to participate. Is the design of the plaque something we can have an opinion on at a future time? 4/14/2023 3:27 PM Century Homes Survey 8 / 10 100.00%38 97.37%37 Q7 Optional: As of 2022, how many homes in Edina do you think were already 100 or more years old? If you want to enter the drawing for a free EHS membership, please complete your survey and add your email address here so that we can let you know if you won! Answe ed: 38 Sk pped: 20 #ANSWER:DATE 1 100 6/1/2023 4:55 PM 2 1 6/1/2023 8:13 AM 3 227 5/24/2023 4:28 PM 4 19 5/8/2023 4:42 PM 5 670 5/5/2023 5:06 PM 6 200 5/1/2023 11:27 AM 7 37 4/29/2023 11:42 AM 8 100 4/29/2023 10:37 AM 9 70 4/28/2023 3:52 PM 10 102 4/28/2023 2:12 PM 11 75 4/28/2023 11:11 AM 12 50 4/28/2023 9:33 AM 13 1,000 4/27/2023 11:46 PM 14 300 4/27/2023 4:42 PM 15 200 4/27/2023 3:11 PM 16 27 4/27/2023 2:53 PM 17 227 4/27/2023 2:21 PM 18 4 4/27/2023 2:17 PM 19 100 4/27/2023 1:48 PM 20 52 4/27/2023 1:47 PM 21 I don t know and I don t ca e!4/25/2023 5:18 PM 22 350 4/23/2023 5:46 PM 23 30 4/21/2023 8:25 PM 24 183 4/20/2023 2:23 PM 25 250 4/19/2023 4:40 PM 26 237 4/18/2023 2:31 PM ANSWER CHOICES RESPONSES Answer: Ema Add ess: Century Homes Survey 9 / 10 27 434 4/18/2023 12:56 PM 28 50 4/17/2023 2:39 PM 29 200 4/17/2023 10:23 AM 30 100 4/16/2023 6:54 PM 31 50 4/16/2023 3:37 PM 32 200 4/16/2023 9:53 AM 33 1999 4/15/2023 1:37 PM 34 23 4/15/2023 11:24 AM 35 210 4/15/2023 10:00 AM 36 42 4/15/2023 9:35 AM 37 300 4/14/2023 3:27 PM 38 350 4/14/2023 11:40 AM #EMAIL ADDRESS:DATE Century Homes Survey 10 / 10 Century Homes Program - Estimated Participation and Expenses Survey Scope Projected Participation Mailed Total - Non Country Club Built Before 192 304 "How likely are you to participate i Blank Owner Names 73 Very Likely 64% Mailed Estimated to Valid Addresses 231 Somewhat Likely 24% Emailed Estimate Country Club 333 88% Total Survey Invitations (Estimate)564 Potential Participation by Year Survey Responses 58 100 years old in 2023 237 Survey Participation Rate (Est.)10.3%Turning 100 in 2024 35 Turning 100 in 2025 77 * Note Assessor's Count of these Properties was 281, but mailing list yielded additional addresses. Plaque Expenses Opinions on Cost 1 The $150-$420 range is fine, although a lower cost is preferred.64%Bronze Casting $260 I’d think twice about participating if the cost exceeds $300.38%Tax $23 If the cost is $250, I would likely apply for a partial subsidy.14%Shipping $25 If the cost is $250, I would likely apply for a full subsidy.12%Total $308 Potential Over/Under If Price Fixed at $300 $8 Potential Subsidies Needed If 50 annually If 25 annually Partial Subsidy ($100 off $300 fee)$700 $350 Full Subsidy ($300)$1,800 $900 n a Century Homes Program?" 88%75%50% 209 156 78 31 23 12 68 51 25 Per Unit Expenses if Bulk Ordered 3 5 10 $230 $225 $220 $21 $20 $19 $17 $14 $11 $268 $259 $250 -$32 -$41 -$50 PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING: Screws will be painted background color Artist: Jana Lein | Ext: 1973 6423267 36130 CENTURY HOME Vicki J. @ ext.1817 2267195 1/1 BRONZE 7"W X 5"H 1 Painted Edges-5/16"thick Cast Oval Raised/Recessed-Horiz. Stroke Leatherette-w/Brushed Surface Single Line Border 2025 Black SATIN Painted Per Artfile Supplied Satin (2) #6 CS Toggle w/ 1/2” Spacers loc per file No Rosettes Required No 4/11/2023 RAISED RECESSED DATE:SALESPERSON:ORDER #:CUSTOMER PO #:Page: CAST PLAQUE MATERIAL SIZE QTY DEPTH SHAPE COPY FINISH BORDER COLOR STYLE CLEAR MOUNT ROSETTES PATTERN - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VERSION: 1 RTF: Bronze Black