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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-08-12 Park Board MinutesEdina Park Board August 12, 1986 7:30 p.m. Edina City Hall Members Present: Don Wineberg, Joan Lonsbury, George Warner, Mack Thayer, Andy Montgomery, Marilyn Wooldridge, Jim Fee, Jean Rydell Members Absent: Bill Lord Staff Present: Bob Kojetin, John Keprios, Ed MacHolda, Larry Thayer, John Valliere, Bill Bach, Madelyn Krinke Others Present: Dick Gaughran, Boyd Lester, Donna Hipps Meeting was called to order by Joan Lonsbury. I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JULY 8, 1986 MEETING Mack Thayer moved to approve the minutes of the July 8, 1986 meeting. Andy Montgomery seconded the motion. Motion carried. II. WRESTLING ASSOCIATION John Keprios introduced Dick Gaughran, the Edina High School wrestling coach and Boyd Lester to the Park Board. Mr. Lester explained that he represents a group of parents who organized as a club to support youth wrestling. He stated that the group of parents had met because they felt a need to provide opportunities for elementary age youth in wrestling because there has not been an organized program in Edina previously. Mr. Lester stated that the club requests the Park Board's recognition of their group as an athletic association under the Park and Recreation Department. It was further explained by Mr. Lester that the Wrestling Club had done a lot of preliminary work, after conferring with John Keprios, and much of the ground work has been laid for a Wrestling Association. The wrestling program has been run for the past few years by Dick Gaughran and a few parents who organized a wrestling club, but it has not been formally organized as an association under the Edina Park and Recreation Department. They expect about 100 to enroll in the wrestling program for the first year; arrangements have been made with the High School for use of gymnasium and wrestling mats, which will enable the program to begin with very minimal costs; schedules have been tentatively set; coaches have been secured; support has been given by Dick Gaughran and the Edina High School. Don Wineberg MADE A MOTION RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL THAT CITY OF EDINA ACCEPT THE EDINA WRESTLING CLUB AS AN ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE EDINA PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND ASSIST WITH INCORPORATION OF THE EDINA WRESTLING ASSOCIATION. Marilyn Wooldridge SECONDED THE MOTION. Discussion of motion: John Keprios stated that he would assist the group with the formalities of incorporating. Bob Kojetin endorsed the proposal of starting the Wrestling Association and said the main effect on the Park and Recreation office would be the additional clerical work in the park office and Bob feels we should proceed with accepting the club as one of our athletic associations. John Keprios will work with the Board as liaison person. Further discussion included the following comments: -other communities have large numbers involved in their programs and that there is a growing interest in wrestling in many neighboring communities, as well as state-wide; -there is a large percentage of youth who do not wish to be involved in other sport activities currently offered who may want to participate in this new program. MOTION CARRIED. III. GOOSE POPULATION Bob Kojetin reported the goose population in Edina has become a problem. Bob Kojetin, John Valliere, and Gordon Hughes met with Ron Way, a concerned citizen and James A. Cooper, Associate Professor at the University of Minnesota to discuss the problem of large numbers of geese in Edina at Braemar Park, Point of France, Interlachen area, and Edina Country Club. Mr. Cooper has been involved in goose control programs in several metro areas including Brookview Golf Course in Golden Valley, and a big study of the controlling of geese at the Metropolitan Airport. After conferring with Mr. Cooper and after receiving his proposal, Mr. Kojetin indicated he would like to recommend to the Edina Country Club and the Interlachen Country Club to join forces with the City of Edina and enter into a four year program as described by Mr. Cooper in his letter. The program would cost approximately $3,500 per organization. In the conversation with Mr. Cooper, it was learned that the most successful method of resolving the geese problem has been to relocate the young geese in Oklahoma. There would have to be hearings which the University of MN would conduct. There would probably be criticism from the public, but Bob Kojetin feels it is time to start controlling the population of geese now before the problem becomes worse. John Valliere commented that the geese have created a great problem at the golf course. Don Wineberg MADE A MOTION THAT THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDS GETTING INVOLVED IN THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA PROGRAM OF RELOCATION OF GEESE AS OUTLINED IN THEIR PROPOSAL LETTER. Jim Fee SECONDED THE MOTION. IV. PARK POLICE PATROL Bob Kojetin stated that he has met with Craig Swanson, Police Chief, and discussed park police patrol in the City of Edina. A small three wheel vehicle may be used to patrol such areas as the Golf Course, Bredesen, and various other parks. The program would be administered by the Police Department, but direction would be given by the Park Director. In the past few months there have been three incidents of major vandalism in the parks: Bredesen Park bathrooms were destroyed; Creek Valley - the electrical and control building was burned down; at Arneson Acres a riding lawn mower was stolen. Craig Swanson had recommended in his budget to be presented to the Council of a start of park patrol using CSO officers for approximately $23,000 for 1987. Comments were made by the Park Board supporting this program and recommending that the city proceed with the plan. Marilyn Wooldridge MADE A MOTION THAT THE PARK BOARD SUPPORTS THE IDEA OF PARK POLICE AND RECOMMENDS PROCEEDING WITH IT. Andy Montgomery SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. V. BUDGET A. ARENA FEES Larry Thayer presented the proposed fees for ice rentals, raising the fees from $67.50 per hour to $75.00 per hour for Edina Hockey Association and Figure Skating Club hours and raising non -prime hours from $70 to $80 and increasing late night hour rate from $50 to $60 (copy attached). Larry stated that there has been confusion with the past system of requiring all Edina Hockey Association hockey players to have a season ticket and billing the hockey association for ice, then giving back credits for season ticket holders. Larry Thayer said it may be better to go back to not requiring season tickets for hockey registrants and just charging the hockey association for all ice used. In the past a formula has been used whereby approximately $13,000 worth of ice time was credited back to the Hockey Association which was based on the number of participants in the hockey program. This formula through the years has been changed since the requirement for the rental fees for ice has risen in the past years. Larry stated that many families will still want to buy arena tickets and the revenue should remain approximately the same if the new method is adopted. John Keprios stated that he had proposed this change to the Edina Hockey Association and they voted to accept the change of not requiring hockey registrants to have an arena ticket and will pay for the additional ice time. The Hockey Association will have to charge more for registration to compensate for the additional ice fees. The registration .fees will be raised to cover the ice costs which will now be billed to the hockey association. Jim Fee MADE A MOTION RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE FEES AS PROPOSED BY LARRY THAYER AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDATION TO NOT REQUIRE EDINA HOCKEY ASSOCIATION PLAYERS TO PURCHASE AN ARENA TICKET. Don Wineberg SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. B. GOLF COURSE John Valliere stated that he was not recommending a large increase in any one area as Braemar continues to be in the high range in comparison with other local public courses. He reported there are 1700 patron card holders this year. Mr. Valliere indicated that he would like to have the policy changed regarding additional rounds of play after nine holes. The present policy is to charge the full price for an additional 9 holes of play (which brings a lot of complaints because of the extra cost to complete 18 holes). There have also been problems by allowing the additional 9 holes of play because it creates a scheduling conflict for 18 holes and also people can easily play through 18 holes without paying for the second 9 holes. John Valliere recommended that we charge only $4.00 for an additional 9 hole round on the 18 hole course and $3.50 for a reround on the new executive course. Discussion followed and the Park Board recommended not to accept John Valliere's recommendation. The Park Board recommended no 9 hole rounds be allowed between the hours of 7 a.m. and 3 p.m. except for leagues, anyone wanting to play between those hours must play the full 18 holes. The Park Board recommended that after 3:00 anyone playing an additional 9 holes should pay the full 9 hole fee. Mr. Valliere presented his fee schedule with recommended increases for 1987 (copy attached), with recommendations for increasing the green fees approximately 50 cents in all categories. Don Wineberg questioned the fees for the new executive course, if they were set that low to encourage growth. John Valliere answered that was the reason to a large extent. Don Wineberg stated that he thought the patron fees could be increased to $50 for individuals and $85 for husband and wife. John Valliere stated that he did not want to increase patron prices until 1988 because of the increase of green fees. After further discussion it was decided that there should be an increase of $10 on husband and wife patron cards and a $5 increase for the individual patron card. Jim Fee MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED FEES AS ADJUSTED (see attached schedule) Andy Montgomery SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. Don Wineberg reported on a Golf Course Committee meeting he had attended. It was discussed at the meeting that groups will be able to use the lower level of the club house for meetings and they will be able to take food down there. The new upstairs dining room will only be used for larger groups as appropriate. The Golf Committee and others are starting a fund for furniture in lower level. Their goal is $30,000 - $10,000 for each room. John Valliere reported that $7,000 has already been received. Bob Kojetin mentioned that the reason that the club house has not been available to individuals wanting to use various areas in the new section is because the building is not yet completed. VI. OTHER Bob Kojetin introduced Bill Bach, the new Park Manager of Edinborough Park. It was reported that construction is going very fast and the completion date is expected to be in March. Bill Bach is working with his staff: Pat Greer, Visual Arts; Mary Lou Gerebi, Skating; Tom & Carolyn Prin, Music. Bob Kojetin showed the Park Board a copy of 1978 Edina City Council minutes containing a resolution which was passed by the Council that the Braemar Club House be named Warren Hyde Club House. Bob? -will have a fitting plaque made to be displayed in the Clubhouse by September. VII. ANNUAL BILLING FOR DOG LICENSES Andy Montgomery stated that he feels that annual licensing of dogs should be billed to bring in additional revenue to the city. After discussion of this issue, Andy Montgomery made a motion that THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY INVESTIGATE ANNUAL LICENSE RENEWALS FOR DOG LICENSES TO BE SENT TO DOG OWNERS, AND INCLUDED WITH IT SHOULD BE A REMINDER OF THE DOG ORDINANCE. Mack Thayer SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION PASSED. Don Wineberg MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. Marilyn Wooldridge SECONDED. Meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.