HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-10-09 Park Board MinutesEDINA PARK BOARD
October 9, 1984
7:30 p.m.
Edina City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Marilyn Wooldridge, Jean Rydell, Andy
Montgomery, Jim Fee, Mack Thayer, Don
Wineberg, Bob Christianson, George
Warner, Joan Lonsbury
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bill Lord, Virginia Shaw
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Kojetin, Rick Jacobson, Ken Rosland,
John Valliere, Carole Kulak, Madelyn
Krinke
OTHERS PRESENT: Roger Harrold, Tass von Schmidt -Pauli,
Bob Hultgren, Stephen Sinykin, Kathy
Hanson, Lynn Hanson, Frank Garrison, Gary
Sampson, John Lundahl
DEDICATION OF STRACHAUER PARK
At 5:30 P.M., a dedication of Strachauer Park was held at 62nd
and Beard Place. Members of the City Council, the Park Board,
the mayor, members of Herman Strachauer's family and several
other individuals were in attendance for the dedication. Cliff
French, the first Park Director for Edina who worked many years
with Herm, was also in attendance and made a few comments
regarding Herm's participation in the early park history.
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 11, 1984 MEETING
Bob Christianson moved for approval of minutes of
September 11, 1984 meeting. Seconded by Mack Thayer.
Motion carried.
II. DISCUSSION OF SALE OF LAND
Bob Kojetin reported that they have been doing some
investigation of selling of property on West Shore Drive
and 66th St., which is across the street from Cornelia
Park. The land has possibly three buildable lots. The
homeowner adjacent to the lot approached the city about
buying it. Bob Kojetin and Gordy Hughes, City Planner,
thought it would be a good idea to check on this lot and
others in the city which appear to be nonusable land for
the city. Proceeds could be put in escrow and the
interest could be used for operating funds for the park
department. The property on West Shore Drive is valued
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at about $60,000, raw value of about $30,000. It would
cost about $30,000 to put in sewer and water. Don
Wineberg supported the idea of checking out land which
can't be used and pursuing the sale of some of these
small parcels.
Bob Christianson stated that he would be against selling
the Parbury Estate if that land was ever considered for
sale.
Bob Christianson MOVED TO INVESTIGATE AND PURSUE THE SALE
OF THE PROPERTY AT WEST 66TH STREET AND WEST SHORE DRIVE.
Mack Thayer SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
III. SPEED SKATING RINK
Bob Kojetin is still working on putting together the
proposal for the speed skating rink. Bob Kojetin handed
out several excerpts from the proposal which he will be
submitting to the Metro Council.
Mr. Kojetin explained that the proposal recommends three
phases of construction; the first phase would be to build
the basic speed skating facility, phase two would put a
cover over the rink and phase three would enclose the
sides with walls. The proposal will be brought before
the City Council Monday, October 9 for their approval.
Mr. Rosland, City Manager, stated his concern that the
proposal not be submitted until after the City Council
meeting, and that approval would have to be given by the
Council before Edina could actually be considered for a
site for the facility being proposed.
IV. RECREATION REPORT
Rick Jacobson indicated that Adult Social Dance
Instruction was beginning tonight and that Dean
Constantine is the instructor. Registrations are being
taken for Karate and Racquetball for 8 year olds -
adults.
Rick reported that E.G.A.A. (girl's) basketball will have
five traveling basketball teams this year in 6th, 7th,
8th and 9th grades. The girls flag football program had
a good registration this year. Edina Basketball
Association held registration and about 300 registered,
which is down about 40 from last year, however they will
probably pick up quite a few in late registrants. Hockey
registration is October 10 and 13.
V. OTHER
Joan Lonsbury stated that the Nine Mile Watershed
District sponsored a walk around Bredesen Park and she
and a number of the Edina Garden Council members, League
of Women Voters and other individuals participated in the
walk and were able to see first hand what has been done
in the park. It was noted that July, 1985 is the target
date for completion. Bob Kojetin noted that one of the
ski trails will be groomed for cross country skiing.
VI. REPORT ON TENNIS COURT INSPECTION
Andy Montgomery and Marilyn Wooldridge reported that they
had done an inspection of most of the tennis courts and
found 2 to be in excellent condition - Braemar and
Yorktown, and 3 to be in very bad condition - Highlands,
Creek Valley and Pamela. Rick Jacobson would like to
repair five courts per year, that way every three years
the courts would be brought up to par. Creek Valley was
redone in 1981, so there apparently is a problem with the
soil base settling, causing cracks in the surface of the
courts.
VII. EDINBOROUGH PARK UPDATE
Bob Kojetin stated that it has been suggested that the
park should be built and then turned over to the city in
a turn key type operation. It has been suggested that
there should be an indoor lap pool in the new park. Ken
Rosland indicated that the Planning Commission will be
meeting on Oct. 31 regarding the project and on November
19 it will be brought to the council for approval of the
total concept. Mr. Rosland stated that the park has to
be totally self sustaining, and that $335,000 of the
developer's $800,000 fund should be put into escrow fund
and then have $100,000 be used for maintenance.
Residents of the building will put in so much each month
to raise about $80,000 - $90,000. An operating budget of
$200,000 is expected for the park. There will be parking
spaces for about 450 vehicles and another 300 spaces
outside the park for public parking.
Mr. Rosland mentioned that November 19 will be the second
reading of a rezoning ordinance and that it is hoped that
the council will approve the developers agreement.
VIII. GOLF COURSE REPORT
Don Wineberg introduced a group of individuals known as
"Friends of Braemar" Committee. The committee has worked
for two months to prepare a comprehensive report. Tass
vonSchmidt-Pauli and Roger Harrold presented an overview
of the report and findings of the committee.(Copy
attached).
Regarding the Par 3 - the committee feels that an
Executive Par 3 course is necessary since Braemar Golf
Course has been operating at full capacity and has had to
turn away propsective players. The Pat 3 presently has
about 25,000 rounds and it is projected that this number
could easily increase to 40,000 by 1986 if the course is
upgraded.
Two plans were shown by Roger Harrold for proposed
expansion and upgrading of the Clubhouse. Plan A had
been prepared by Milo Architects. Rationales for
expansion - the building is not presently insulated, the
building is not up to code for handicap access and
handicap restrooms, the building is overcrowded. Plan B
which was shown was submitted as a possible alternative
to Plan A, but is not recommended because it does not
include enough storage area for golf carts.
Included in the presentation were projected estimates
showing that in 12 - 13 years the revenue raised by the
two improvements could pay off the indebtedness incurred.
The recommendation of the committee would be to build the
Par 3 executive course in the first year, put some of the
revenue into CD's and draw interest until 1988 when
construction would be completed. It was stated that
there has been an annual growth rate of 9.2% over the
last 12 years. The net income has been enough to retire
the bond in 15 years. No significant increase in 18 hole
course or cart fees. The committee would recommend that.
the executive course fees start at $6.
Joan Lonsbury polled the Park Board Members for their
response and the following comments were made:
George Warner - Questioned whether the Edinborough Park
would duplicate the Par 3 in anyway and asked if its
would be priced out. John Valliere indicated that fees
would be set up as they are now, giving the juniors a
price break.
Mack Thayer - thinks it's time to take action on it.
Jim Fee - thinks it is conservative. Braemer is
recognized around the country, just received publicity in
Golf magazine.
Jean Rydell - well done.
Marilyn Wooldridge - we have an exceptional course now,
this would just make it better.
Bob Christianson - would like to see the report given to
the city council at the appropriate time.
Bob Kojetin - Appreciated the efforts of the committee
- the only change he would recommend would be to start
construction on the clubhouse in fall of 1986 so the
clubhouse could be used during the summer and not have
tvthe loss of revenue.
Rick Jacobson - it is a convincing report.
Ken Rosland - Great report - thinks it is a positive time
to start.
John Valliere - appreciates all the people who have
worked on report.
Bob Halgren - spoke in favor of an executive Par 3 on
behalf of a senior group with whom he plays golf. They
have been playing on other courses because Braemar does
not have the executive Par 3.
Joan Lonsbury - Park Board has already sent a
recommendation to the council.
Bob Christianson MOVED THAT THE PRESENTATION MADE BY THE
GOLF COURSE COMMITTEE BE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH
THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDATION THAT PLAN A BE IMPLEMENTED,
WITH THE ADDITION THAT THE CLUB HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS BE
DELAYED UNTIL THE FALL OF 1986. Don Wineberg SECONDED
THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
Ken Rosland suggested that the presentation be made the
first Monday in November or the first Monday in December.
Bob Kojetin prefers the first week in November. Don
Wineberg and Mack Thayer will work with the Committee to
present it to the council.
Bob Christianson MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. Don Wineberg
SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
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