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Home My WebLink About1964-04-13 Park Board MinutesC" VjL';-V30 EDINA PARK WRD MINUTE$ APRIL 13, 1964 MEMBERS 1RESENT2 Ma5srs. Stevens, VAQW, Lewis, jOr", R"I"Ovd, Giabink, jackson and Adems. 'TP „F F&SENT3 Messrs. x0je1in: R0310ndv coopand Miss Voss. messrs, Mack Thayar, Menry Dornsaif, jim Otness, Don Knutson,, Bud Sornmy jAm Qwkns and Mrs. Johnson. pcl.zmw moved and Mr. Lewis seconded that Sectian H!aNNYreiJ 0i the Match 9, i954 Park Doard 'irlkn-uteF, be zomendedl to read as fojjows: mr. uyde pxasentod to the Park Board fox their information and study a report on the clubhouse nnd golf courze operation. The, repoxt included the anticipated expenses fox July 4 Wough October 159 064 and for the entire operating season Ar 1965. The grand total operating expanse fow 190 is anticipatod at $91,939.00 and $123,960.75 for 1915. It w;s pointed out, howsver, that these figures did includa the zuppiiss for the grill, pxo shop and niving range, but did not include the Vs agar margin from the sale of this merchandise- It was pointed out that ha enpanse c;1cuiations should include the debt sexvice charges which could be WzOOO - $60,000 annually. it was also pointed out that the total facilities have been constructed with re erne bonds. Payments are to ba madefrom Village Xevenue sources coming first from tha golf course itself, then from liquor store revenue and then as taxes. It w4$ pointed out the expenses as presented are higher than originally pxasented to the Council due to the followingt A. Pojicy to employ by the Villzge a Managex and staff -vs- Commission operation. B. Includes a full seasons supplies ior store and g011 resole. G. There are greater maintenance supplies than previously knorn, such as Artilizer, top drassin% etc* Some members of the pzrk Board expressed a view that the proposal appeared to be realistic and not Vnderestimated based upon their observations of other operations. No formal action was taken upon the proposed operating expense schedule since the associated revenue schedule should be considered at the same time. W. Hyde advised that formal action was not needed at this time, and that he will submit estimated revenues for the April 13 York Ward meeting. Mr. Stevens asked that this data be made availoble to the sub -committee pxjox to April 13, if possible. No. Hyde agreed. e a PO -9- April 1Zj VS4 Ed. -In . !Tk :aoc,5�d i,,,UnU,,nn g,*,4,7,SrA Peas, "e x- s. S 0 1 V e El v,,XTY GOOF1 'to meat Twul"Itinq ne-,eds, t -v publicize t1he faCHIt aub'11.1-1 questions. Sdin. to secure raa-ilmkna and aevena..,,P to VIC? COSts- 11,61r. Hyde p.coposed using the hiflay a�s an J.nf_'Q-=,atiOTI me'dium. S1,111PRIJ11UNG R':)01. I Ro5land �ilolth Ithe Park Boaxd 0 TePoTt Ps=Ored bY ti -le vJ.',_Iagz, Finance Direci-LC' x. 116-1". ;Rt oalend stated that in ru., -2 . IIS . 5 0 the 1963 season we sold 3,452 scason it.-Icke".'s foz a r,-!vIrUG. of $35, f.w. Roslzad polXnl.-ed out that although tile IL'QvOrMl fl'OMI S045011 ticket -s was $5:779.50 highez thafil I-vo2� �,Jlq puL7_.I,:),':r sc)ld wa-s 47 less than !962. This , as due to the ral-tai in pxice o:F the seaso,.i tickelts. The e -cor -he yeai: was S42,538.59. Thi* i4?-_3uded income from, tti,1cl :,entzl 4.�roam instruct -ion progrem., `2$83,6.-34 tknth thie inte--rest- totaling inc The tot,.;I o I'ZI r=s tion total S7.,249.13 leaving $7;444.1,50 and' the de -- -ciat the poc-I wil' a Ei't losr. -�oj- tije opaTating yez*c of 1963 -it ,9 .8: 6 !- I d ua A discussion as to lvfiethv:-�- the e '0 5 v- 5 jnc'tuded in t-hir, repn,!�-,G. Rosland repo,,I-tod that he f-elt "Chat -'ed as such ul,. Wen had this in his zePort-, hOIWOVex-, tvas not llsc and lJr. Rosh nd twas not posit-lvie 5.-F .tt ij-,-as inc-Iuded. Tine' Pa_�.,k Board zapo.rt on `aha conr,!Dssion i!las &!so -in-Iten.-e'strad i T) a aperQation. SOI -Ile Of the -zmmmlsrs I c, should, be fiald vAth N,Ir. Delon in attendance to explain the pa.-O_culza�s of the rePOIt I - j,,efdxe a decision could be reached on the prices for the 115454 season tickets. Mir. Rosland hgid xecovinnandded that the season ,Ucket prices renn�An the same this yeax as they -waxe for the yea -r 1963. These fad il$6.00 IvIorningside IV D ovjs, $1,.00 feinily; $5.00 Ind4 idual - and'75m�: general admissionns. This special mooting -vAll be field �Alonday, ADM 20th at 7--30 P.14. The Eoaxd Qo asked ulw. ROSIOnd to P:;'CqpaTe a budget of lithe lestimated ope-z-a-Aing expenses -for 19641 to beP_esent-cd at this special rzieelkling. Tko. Rosland stated t -hat the Edilno Swlm Club has requested t-ae use of the pool zgoain th-is year to host the Statc� AAU Swing f-ileett ,,,,igust, 81-11h and 9th. TAT. Adwns moved ghat, ,-he St-iiin Club be -Mio-wited that they . say host the S -tate PAU SlTin jijeet A..,,Igust StIn zrid 9th. Mw. Glebink secondee and the motion carried. A group of: Edina ,,:esidents composed oil 114ck Thnver,. 1-11onry Do.rnsei,f, Jim Otnescz� Dun Kn-u`I,-,,-c.I,,,j, :-:ut, So�_;t,w znd Jini of WHU.,�jest PIcnnint,-,4 g to prop-osel a. v,mare pxe?sent at the Paxic Boa- r� d .e,An Fjlina Park .�,". zrd WuW. r.3 - '-%k'zci.A 13, indoor ice !Wlity in Win, yhe preliminary plan that the man presented to the Board has the ice arena located in Cornelia Park, north oE the swimming pool site. The building the man presented would be round with a scalloped roof. The Ice rink itself would be the standard 85' x 200' rink ulth an 1/8 We speed skating track around it. Tha coating capacity in the building of this size would be 2,500 to 3,000 peoplo� it was ziso pointed out that a building of this size could be used As soveral purposes oth= than skating such as gra&patjon ceremonies in inclement wwnOex, theatez-A-00- xoundv and Wo se as ateenage centezThq question Ms WsOd as to how wich o bujiding & this natune tDuld cost., The men stated Wt they do not have an vccuzate estimated cost Aguse at this time S,5%000 1x) S 2`5,000. These but they would Tonghly guess 0PTOOKWO z� 4 son pxasentej their ideas pyimari1y to jet the Pzxk Board know of their plans and to feel out the Park P01rd IG Q theil intcteat in luch a facility. My. Stevens told the men of the committee that they certainly would A interestod in heaving ocne Acts and Agures on this p;oposed facility. Don .:nuts n, Gpezhing for the committee, weported that they could continue their study and 4W0 =0 facts and Mures Q0 tO the i0asibility of this jaclWy in Edina and raport back to the Park QaTd- xv, GOLF 0101"'WE 1SCUSS 10m, Va. Wovens called vn Mr. cooper to review with tha Weld the 14 -page pzcklga on W%Gstcd ticket and Wen W0 P"ces Ond Xlic". Mr. CoopeT yeviswed with the Bwand the MIKE, ticket and gmean Ke prices: FAMILY (Husband W We Only) 0145 INDIVIDUAL - A and older $25 JUNIOR - Undo. 18 (Ii father end mother hold signature cod) -- J -UN! �OR - Under 13 (Father and mothQx do not hold signature czrd) The suggested green WeS fOT the 18-hoic couxse =e $2.00 on weekdays and $2.50 on wweRends ond holidays fox a signswe card holder-, $3.00 on waekdays and $35 0 w . on aKends znd holidays iox a nonr. r3 cord holdez. The suggasted gmeon izes fox the 9 -hole covTse were $1.00 on weekdays and $1.25 on weekends znd holidays fox a signatuTe czrd hol0r; $1.50 on weekdays end $1.75 on weVends and holiSys for a non-signstuxe card holdez. Lookers would be available to ccid hoidaro for $10 per lowkwr ztvrzge w,uld be avZ!jqhje at $15 per sets Golf r4nge balls would > availabje in the 502, and 20 huoketa- Cooper 4150 T Edina Pork Wald Minutes . A- April 13: 1964 briofAy his plan* Or golf lassons; both adult grDup Moons and junto:? lessons. Zt was pointed out that for the 1964 operation that these prices would be cut in half sicce the gaI2 cauxse will not open until in jykily. Mr, Cooper conkinuad his report by presenting the astimated xounds and memberships that uould be bought. This was laid out on a four year basis from 1964 to 1967. Mr. Cooper also correlated these number of rounds with the estimated xevanuosroe This alsowas on a four year basis Som 1964 to 1967. To sum up the four year study a fund vuy t;vlas pnesented showing the estimated revenue, expensesp and debt service. 1964 showed an o4..er4tinnal loss of $69,329.00; 1965 an oporation loss of $13;951.00; 1966 presented a profit of $72802.00; und 1967 showad a PXVIR of $25 , 429.00. A disnueNon 011ound on the cost of the signatune cards W the noopn ippn. War "ch Qncungion MT. Lewis nnved for the edoOtioil of the ebove mentioned signature card plan and green He schedule. No. Crink1ey seconded and the motion was lost. Discussion ensued on the signatuve cards and it was felt by several man of the PzTk NeW that a high cost of the signature cord could m,ke it difiicalt .to close the course or cut back play if needed for tho pronction A the cousse during the 1964 zerson. Mry Adams moved that ion thQ 1964 season only, a signature caTd bp cold Ar a nominvi ion (price to be left to the disczation A the Village Wicials, possibjy $2.00 - $5.001 and the green toes set for the at $2.00 on.vaekdays and $2.50 on weekends and holidays foz a signature chd Wider; $3.00 on weekdays znd $3.50 on weekends and holidays for a non-signatuTo caxd holder; at $1.00 on weekdays and $1.25 on weekends and hojidays foT a signatine card holder; $1.50 on weekdays and $1.75 on wcokends and holidays for a non -signature card holdex. Mr. OWN seconded and the motion carried. U0. Lewis and Mr. Crinkley voted no and asked to be on record as voting no. Do. jackson moved that No. Coopew's repoTt on the other feeq, charges, astimated rounds v-nd be approved. Mr. joKon aocondssd and the motion carried. No. CoopeT then continued with his report on the operating policies. Several commentswere made on these policlas and ofn a discussion Mr. Adams moved that these policies be approved in general and any minor cAnges that need to be mem e is to he left to the discretion of the Village olficical s. Mr. RobilliaN seconded and the motion carried. KER: skv maeting adjourned at 11:00 P.M. Respectful2y submltted� Ken NOW, Saciy Edina Park Board