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Cot, -,mission Tiinvute
'tr. Hughes moved that the `Iovembe :? 70, and the Oec;_:�naer j, ?.`)7U.
Planning; Commission minutes be approved as Mtr„ iiaaelster
seconded the mot'ionm All Voted Aye. Ttc,tior Carried,
II Southwest Edina Plan - official Publ'c Hearing
`4r.. Lewis indicated that under the law, ttac Village has !:e a> advised tha
the Planning Commission. must transmit any comprullens vc. p1�1n tr) the Lz)tancil before
the Commission can hold a public hearinn
Mr. West indicated that there is a s fight L <.n1, in tine �mre�aader� i�v=:?
involving a higher density (from 0-6 units to 6-17 units i)er acre) in a small four
acre tract located approximately half --way batween less_ 701:11 Street ,aacl the present
Dewey hill Road and bounded on the east by Cahi .l 1toad,tie st.rited hos.ever that ti
Staff would recommend that the entire area betwctln the i.lyoposed i_au,us!Zrial dev lc:pi<!Ya__
and the proposed Dewey hill Road extensions, whicia Inas boen rFcdc;ced Pram rA rc�com;ai:c, _
617 units per acre to 0--6 units per acre, b` tE:stcxe< to it: ,riyiially 'rnf>csed
density of 6-17 units per acre, Ile added ° hat. v'e 'a^ Je 'beerf `�_—ou pact cd by several
property owners in the area who have expressed an i1 gest in �a hig"er c:e'llyity irl t
area due basically to soil conditions, f'inancin€;, etc .
Mr., Frank Dean was present and r'eporLed On a rc:cer.t-meetin; of the psi
dents committee with the Olson-nllan.sen people (Dou ias g.a Olson, pc; y Olso-a, Carl 1-n e a
acre t.r� c�.
and Harvey Hansen) , who are requesting the aighez deas=' ty on tine four
south of the proposed notth.�ra extension of Dewey Hill Roc t i and just *est of 0', -,- I
Road;; He indicated that tile residents are opposed tc, tl.is request .a:: trhis Would
represent a precedent to increase the density for all of t:liat a -ea to t;lae south
the proposed industrial development and the proposed -wey Hiil Road extensions.
In reply to a question, Mr. Lewis stated than a planned de,isity of 0-6 sirr',,:s
in the area in question is econcrnically unrealistic, adding that the `pillage Inas
already been confronted with several law suits relgardi--lg this land,
Mr. Dean stated that the Mayor is alcc questioning the proposed ine.ustrial
development west of Cahill Road. lie added that the rcgident:s are firin in their
'aT. irj cFter, -Ansi continue to oppose the
that the entire plan area remain reside:'t
encroachment of any industrial developmenL ,rest oL G<tail_1 Roach
I1r,; Lewis again reiterated that if aR ar -iiont (rpsidentiaj.) development ire,:^
permitted along the vest side of Cahill Run.cl.; 1 *ra; fl -c ex5-= will have to be provid(!d
into Edina, as the resulting rasiden',iai 4:rGaff.ic: could hardly be denied direct access
into the Village. He added that, the .-esie eatial traffic could not be `ed down an
industrial road, out of t': iril ;�e, as aaGi >=o�`.sd r'atL ser'L�a.s ra:�fic problems An
this area. h1r,:, Lewis arc d�=ci ti at an-, r res dent ia�. +. c�.reaop r zit �.?.oce n ?hill Road would
not create a goad living, envi..~otmmant for �i resi_vesa =>.
"dina Planuing Cortm-i.srJor,. 6, J91il
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"fr. 11arvey hanoe-i-i brie*ly c,-ITn j,�j z; e - 4
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zoning, at "7200 Cahill Ro,-Jj" �) yrp p c, �.; i ,, ze iLh-
easterly portion of the site with the conF.truc,,,:_.'.o)j oli- j 141 unit ap<.r-,ent
Ile further indicated that they wozild propose: tiif2 of fuj'r
acres of land on the west side of the nor�:h J trey lill Road extenslor),
111r, Dean stated that the residents comniit,::ce generally agreed_ that the -
dedication of the westerly four acres as parkInnd was au acceptable co-mj,'.Comise to
increase the density on the easterly four acres, across the norrh ext!:n,-Jon of Dewey
Hill Road,
Mr. Hughes stated that lie would rather the Village have some dete)r'mina-.!:iorl
in what is going to be developed in this area instead v;' being Jforced _')y the �.ourLs
to accept something the Village does not want. lie stated that he feals 0-6 units per
acre is insufficient and would not stand up in (,,ou&. Ile pro'serl thn
in the area west of the proposed industrial deve1.opi,,.,en,.. and of i:ae Dewey Hill
Road extensions be increased in order that the '41illage could recain 3(y..va control.
over the development in the area.
After further discussion, Mr, Hughes clarified that the plan is a
for development in the southwest EdLia area, however tli+e possibility of higher
densities must be recognize6 as appropriate densities nxe preserited fc)� consideratio,.1,-
th
e Cop agreed wi J_
de noted that each request must b considered on its The real,
this and indicated that although they un&arstand tiie possibility of -increased densities
in the area mainly in question, they would prefer that the plan shoe a proposed 0-0
units per acre rather than 6-17 units per acre. They indicated that t1 --is would fcrck>
the proponents to develop a better overall plan proposal and would also force any
requests for a higher density to be considered more critically.
Mr,, Hughes moved that the Planning; Commission .1pprove f -he n0co-mmended
Southwest Edina Plan (as originally propoised bai- with z, density of 6- 1" ullitS P(-_ t'
acre in the four acre tract located just west of Cahill Roacl, and Just south OT
proposed northern extension of Dewey Hill Read, -,Lrlcj wi a &_,.:sity ol ;)-6 units pe.z.
acre in the remainder of the area locarled bevuei!n thr! proposed Dewey .sill Road
extensions and the industr'Lal development west of Gzahlil Road"n.nd revised text, tha
text being subsect to any necessary revisions,, Mr. C, Johnson seconda,l the motion,
All Voted Aye, Motion Carried.
111 11 REZONINGS:
z-70-1) Olson -Hansen, 7200 Cahill 1'oad, R-1 read TZ -2 ;'-c R-4
Mr. Harvey Hansen had previousiy stated that the property invol"e6
is 1,340 feet wide and 300 feet deep, totalling,, appy oxiriiatel.,7 10 acres. lie indicated
that they are proposing, to construct a 141 unit, apaztnient building on the eastern
portion of the property to take advant-age ^f 1,:e.rra1_n and better soils. The
westerly portion of the parcel, west of t"hely
j)oSeci in,,-ircherl c_x.ten,tor, of Dewey Hill
L u' possib'le developmant of recreational
Road, is proposed to remain a. ; lrh 1'h'W-
facilitles. Mr. Ilansan irndicatef! C"Li.. would C(
the ded`catl.on of this iaad
Oossiblyin the developed form} to th,! 'Jill ire for MUCI)OS'es"
Edinn Planning Comuisaiwi januar, 6, 1971
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Mr, H. 1' user indicated that he h= �nlked with Ken i; s' the Villago,
of Edina Directut of Parks ond Recreation, who indicateu to him that the westerly W17
acre tract considered alcue and Weveloped mQU noc be economical for the Village,
but that in the developed form the Village wculd certalWy consider the proposaj, a3
it would be a nice addition to the community, paucicularly for the adults. My. Doug
Olson added that the land they are proposing to dedicate to the Village is not
undesirable, as it has exceLlert drninage, trees, etc,
Mr. West indicated that he is concerned with several things; namely, the
proposal tc dedicate the open space to the Village as a park raises a question of land
locking the westerly portion of tha lot directly to the north, Lho FeasiOtlity of
development of the very nairow parcel directly to the nur0 between the proposed Dewey
hill Road extension and the lot in question, and the questionable proposed shape of
the apartment building.
Mr, Roger Findell, owner of the narrow piece of property directly north
between the Dewey Hill Road extension and the Olson -Hansen property, indicated that he
land would be buildable, as it is approximately 130 feet wide,
W. Huelster mu4ed that the request be accepted for study, and "r. Hughes
seconded the motion All Voted Aye. Motion Carried.
Z-70-20 Karl Krahl. South of Veraor We= and north pf .11 Crygtawn.
R-4
Mr Wen indionted thn the property in question is locaied on the
large hill south of Vernon Avenue and north of Lbe Wsstown Highway Nere they join.
in western Edina, Ec added that the site is directly 5Duth of the recently rezoned
?,C -H. property.
He stated Wat the request is for rezoning !rum R -I to R-4, with the density
limited to 12 units per acte (7-3 density, a total of 93 units an the site). He StaW.1
that the proposal would require the removal of a portion of the top of the hill and the
looping of a road from the west side of the property "p and across the north slope of
the hill to the east end of the proposed building. Underground parking would be
provided for lln cars with the remainder of the requirea parking on the surface immudiately
south of the building.,
Mr. Cooperman, Ne architect, stated tbac Koey want all of the nnits in one
building to preserve as many of tho trees as possible; but idded that it will be
necessary to slice off about 20 Fect from the top of the hill. He stated that a fully
landscaped buffer will surround the property.
Mr. Huelster movad that the request be accepted for study, adding that a
comprehensive site analysis inciading detailed graiinq and lan0scaping plans will be
required before approval is grantev. PW C."ohnnas venanded the motion, All Voted
Aye. Motion Carried
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Z--70-21 Edina Ka�sonie Lodge, NO -r -t—' and v7,?s-- -)F
-1-cason Road, R-1 to 1-1
—re Li 2 1 -i , na a _:p_- � n' U
Mr. WeEl't indicated "--1hat Zile proper-ri,�Y !G located d.t-ectly souzil of
the Karl. Krahl property,. and noted that it iL
s a diffju';i,--sjte s1*
a it is overlooking the
Crosstown Highway and presently does noc. have ai-'CeSt�, L4-,3 uogo,-iationc Nave not beets
completed as of yet for the propo.,,ed frontage road on the riot side os" the Crosstown,
Mr, West indicated that the request is for rezoning :prom R-1 to 0-1 O£ ice Building
District, which has been ameneed to permit priv,�te club: or except
lodkre halls,
those providing food or beverage service or, a rcgular basis - t' I
Mr. Stahl, the archiLect, indicated that extensive landscaping will be
necessary to check the erosion of the hill at G!',e rear c -f tile site, az-'ch has al-L-eady
begun. lie added that they are proposing the cov.structioyL of one buiidlng which will
house the lodge facilities anc will also providc a small Vulount of offtee rental spat --a,
necessary to support the lodge facility. He noted �.hat lot coveraj?,e will be approxi-
tuately 30% of the site,
In reply to a q,:estiva,, Mr. llegmaa, vhairi-iian o:F the lodge Board of Trustees,,
stated that as many as *200 people can be expected at a, 1,-,alge imetia-. Tile question
was raised about the availability of adequate space fo)c the require"di parking cera
site. Mr, Stahl indicated that Ule lodge andl U.e c4tice space would eech occi,%py 5().1
of the structure..
Ile added that development of the site could � hanqe, pending the pla,:-.ement
and location of the proposed frontage road and E;ewer and wa, er facj-ii4-es.
Mr. Runyan moved that the rezoning ri.quest be acceptcd for study, and mr.
Ituelster seconded the motion. All Voted Ave. Notion CjrriedL.
lv� LOT DIVISIONS:
23, Myrtle Luzzich,, 6517 Sherwcod
Avenue. Lot 3, Bloc� L7.,Noinar!L'a.-Le
AcLid. i t i qn.,
Alga. West indicated that -1herequest 13 to divide Lot 3 in half,
creating two lots each 121,,33 feet wide by .122,94 feet cicep,, lie stated ;:hat several
of the lots directly to the north ani west h-ive been di-'Oded J"n this manner,
Mr. West stated that the present Incluse, 13atcld 011 the Tvest side of the
lots and the division would crea,"e another butidablf. 1011-- . :o t!ie eact, facing on Ryan
Avenue. He indicated that the Staff would -i-.'econimene arjprova-3. of the requested lot
division.
After furtijer
'Er MkWed thrlt the division be
of, � I I, e 17f%.9�1 Carried.
approved, and Tfr,, C, Jchnscva ciaccndcd -,-rzotl ,, AJ- d A
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SP -7G-14 Cherc �c- ii!,11s 'Ll-: Addi K.5.on
Mr, West indx.cr f ed t{i. thrs reqs i-st ..s for appboval of a small
three lot plat located in thf:- Indian hills al:ee- he stated that: all three lots will
be buildable, and no drainage problems should bn encountered
Mr. Huelster mcved that Cherokee Hills 7th Addition be granted preliminary
approval„ and Mr. Hughes seconded the motion. All Voted Ay -e. Motion Carried.
VI . OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Nine Mile North Building -Plan,, Raaenhorst Corp.
Mr. West stated that the Planning Corunission had previously requested that
the parking for the Penney's =warehouse structure be reiocayed from the west side of
the building to the future expansion area to the north. He indicated that since
that time, Penny's has confirmed that they definitely need the future expansion area.
Mrs .west indicated that the Council has approved a revised plan, subject to
approval by the Planning Commission and the Board of Appeals and Adjustments, whist,
eliminates the second row of parking in tine tient:er arca bei:ween the two warahouses
on the site, moves the building to the north as far as possible, eliminates tine
northerly entrance road providing access to proposed Lincoln Drive, and provides the
future expansion arena to the south of the structure. He indicated that: this is a
much more favorable plan, but added that variances for `ot coverage and setbacks will
be required.
In reply to several. comments, Mr. West stated, �1.ha_t tike bui ling will be
18 feet high, and that the building will be ' iml ted to ?, arehouee use only
Mr. iluelster moved that the Perney's bu .ldinz? plan be approved, subject to
the approval of the Board of Appeals and Adjustments, Mr,, Sherman seconded the
motion, All Voted Aye. Motion Carried?.
vl l � Adjournment,
Rcsp ec: lfu'.ly submitted,
Lynnoe Day.:; z laiv , Secret:ar-