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Home My WebLink About1971 10-06 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regularnil IQUTO chi UZ �A?502 100 vztA CC JAR IWINA WAYIN9 V0110" WI Nambers Wsenn W. T. O&S, cjairmnr, X A. Huclacer, S. F. Hughes, C. Xhnsm T T., Tik",nYan, L, Li-tdblom;! Staff Meant: G- Loco, R, Duqn, End L. Nye, Co �V-- X4� Mr, T Jchnsmi nmus! thaz che jeptumber A an! September 15, 1971, Planning CummissiOn MOW= be approvad, prcvided paragraph 2, page 3, of Che Seprembar 1 minu= is corrected Co read au kollaws: t"Following furcher discussion, Mr, Hghe us sated that thn people shosiA hnve the cTporrwniy to rcview nhe plans for the Pr0j"; "0 the :n€4.,:, _.'`0n V Cho Zoad silwation nuon be connilie re& Mr, hunjonn%. Ven moved that 0, requeoc barcntivuei to a jacs� duse� Mr, V johnson 8econdad th, motion, All Votai Ayw YLOW WOKed4 Xr� Trnyza swcandcd the motiork nppro7ing nhe septlywer minutes, aud all voted aye, Motion Carried, ZO Rescgnitica If W Maurice 4 LindUps. School Board Rarresentany Now Lace ""Occd DO, Maurl= Undbi0m, who is zeplac&g Dn john So Hoyt K -i as schOW bOarl on the PlavAQ3 Nx.- Le-toiis read a letter from No Anyt indiaaziag his resignztion and cmpressing his appreciation, lr� Hughws rhan moved OW a reso!"Kno be drawn np cG;Tlinentiug Dr. Hoyt Zor his service an nha planniog QW000ion to be adopted by ohn pinnniag Commission and Qunciln Kr� Runinter cenandni the woriu% All Vat2d hyaj locKn Carrie& 110 REZONXJGS: Z-71--4 Nor W71-9 1,00 cam rnnvr NowbWas"-111 Cquan Road 18 and mv Luce staN that save:ai of neighborhood orga&%ations apponred at 0heVY0.4041 1971, village COU001 mentirg on6 Yr"PCS0G Zo form an "'Scry VOUP " r"OW the vOricus d0valoPosan POnG and ma�w reccmnendazicas us the Wouning Commission and Council, He indicand chat chn OnacK encouraged owns''t Pye&Ont W statc chair Position te the Commissloa ani njil ccnsider the proposal at a Eunure pacning" Kz. Luua ounzed that cLe Erickran and 0,00, Comprny rczaniug requests will. ocz be heard at this uncting, as thny requwa.gid concinuance panding che resuics of Planning commiasion and Wunnil acKen on Uwe plepyand _•c c:.. srsup'' Hrm Wthuz Neloon, Vics Fres!Oamt Of thn WNW! Amscu.ti ation, scated Chat WhOugh a Wasennetion wao planned in opposition ro the QUO= rezoning, they hava nc Objection to Cho continuance cl zhe re,nat in view at the advisory group being formed, j lb_ State--, A.- z[. ..i.:. erd U cJ 0 F, S r mu" ic a last SAI Kreim�� r y� S S C'u !I-, Eeina -Plan Uc I LI - 1- and tsRi c.-,, ova Z�! u Z..� t S lie 1-A" i� UU ok nc. the 1970 cenuuand t.:hc univ;,4 n, rs X-": L,',�isbcjhr..f '.h,_ll`dina 1_-hc for a ;m-, for ;-ha r,-,.).ai_r�-V.9 P- C. rzquirz Clh.-It ncopropn;and trausitional t_ -f aas bz-Lvc;7'D. dwCILlin-i.':,' and rcial avIll lanrl s.cinu, tnal� vu."!x-ivun n0j.,ze abatlemc-a)t Tnz_135: mmst be 4:e *u •Sirij;le h naif,hDo,._, ood,_ and 'Lie st._Led that Ose F' a".`' �I:cs vae t dc_.1�7: ity- "Till nct ;7.z'Cnrc. 'cco g -_.raf fic wiiI 3.i w" be zo'o urksaf*o or dhe not be r- 4 " - "I . - sl a cri choract-el, neign! In ad the Village nc;z7.P tai -- la-, .1d une :advis-,)�C:,- zc,:'in the ng ea ) -..�hich c—zelvdInd ttint the eT".d nccepp,-�-�:-nc,,��, 8 - of joiar sl_-udy to :sIlzziv. 0n) S7 r,.-'Fclr%Velop tll�-, wh_,;h :•till. mncz th'R addc,6 -1-hat --he pri�;,pozal ha�_-; b"•„en a'trjncj bv nsveral. plavuv�:,_vo z-nd but lv-,'s --it as y( --k: Pir, stated J. -10-t "'Sp Some sort of O -z OfflIcial. m 1-,k nus - for tkli,;to Gpxo;:e::te",, Mn:,-, Plan lm ":ha nt" 'a I 'ka t"con to the p rc lri�rkabip., Hualss� - L"n'd os,_ecd tha_,bl -lei te-J, , . , . 'n V TTIC 2 ".3 n.ac-Uv-, cr"u7'.r1 IRlaclr 01"I ei3 �,7 zh_! t:l -_;vr� r bc con tinua for 5pvnr W Rvolutez WSM th= Che Lan5vark Dcve1v;ncnz WporaMan razaning request Ccutinuad to a Wev We. hr, Runyon zaccKY the mookun, All Vatod Aye, lotion Wried, ire. 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NOW C9 vern.:?"; i*l.-'Yoyo"'."� ai'd we';it 0.1: prasidsat of Bu.._. £..wMc., statne M" .S. to for an anyansion of Cho zoning which Wow on ON aorchorn Panion oi: Us PrOPSYN, Ha zacallcd that 5r,salu for this propozy Mva Men presenned enveral Sman Once 2964, hwoover, each was defeated day to che vinanving aituaclon', . lie roquawad that considowation of the requ;.s,'-; bo. no the plan PZOP:30d is 0� with the WasKern Mina Fign, ani, incoca, pre3cEa2 a lower ens 201 On Oita (8 Unsto P"n nnra) Knn 7CUTO bn PSISTIM (13 nnow Por vvra)n also' Manain! mono W Wea inco azovoun, 12, Mwis Maced that the ZQUM MUM WK NOU M MUM WaSSMantion a:3 the prWoua requosw uY cLoncz he no%,& open nt ahju cor, -Mt was ngrcwd tha,� the pressatntion for the rezoninZ, hcwavor, could to main, Mr, Race MAN that in who past tha otaff Acz nontinunily encouraged joiw- dovohaymnnc K the two purcions of p1cp0ray NV. IXIA, MpaShly, in clunhouss U010 Or cunarship. Un statod ohn, Me pnrpoLal ban 07capowayed P. .c._. the request is gar ADD -3 2CM03 to pwv�K 8 units per cuts as Mr 12 A Ecre Siza-, Nn oddzd Maz K!3 Q the ULd is nanuo 1-2, which wooM permit 12 Undys par acyn. M7. Race Swoold "hac socks could yoncusuri oppyrUM OQ a vannopt =Oita car acto. on not UnIq zhzn W UPUS, PYOUIT! 00 SlYa sic kopt to xal an PIMWn Now So Cnovern proporcy Ms :"d uAc dxvlo� As 2we6 usbaTI t10 -Awl Mr, Lace "Mcnond On the Pralloy on un Ennv OQU Wrl Mv?, na-1 PUMP01 Got ro ZIA SO;& h nod rho PZOPOSS A ! Muznr Road nTKvnSQn ExWeSys; . P02a one emnaring tcpcgrayhy an-", OvAnsaw RUM nzounsion PznPcond, and Me Pyclarny Pra3ently MOMM., TO En njujinad On Y�vw�vw; jW:YnWAv 200 Emad Ohm ton zoxn- Lonna anournt �y ton nf�a. Fn 0�>�IAZIQ lh:nn 0 !�vfc AKWW� Sell inn Uzu WSM70yo mr QU Mtn so 90117c S; TV.,: 'an"ov: QVI NUMMOMP" LM valQMMATY. To InUran-t Ow onn .�On! IN llnr vAnva UQMA POCIMS vcvnw�." Van NO Nlyny Plov"O' L14 ?00 Lanaks 027 00 00 110>" nali anvon0jon will PVCW... ...... acases for On Mt— 14 Snonno 15nu � Is 70 FA Val IMOno x7en VEIL Y'; Edina Planning Commission m4-- October 6, 1971 provided along the eastern property line, bermed and landscaped, and the townhouses will surround a two story recreation building and outdoor pool. He reviewed the preliminary layout and elevation view of each unit type and indicated the materials will mainly be wood of a natural color and design. The proposal is for 100 units (48 two bedroom and 52 three bedroom units), with 2 enclosed and .5 exposed parking spaces to be provided per unit. Mr. Cooperman stated the units will sell for about $45,000. Mr. Frank Berman, 6152 Arctic Way, questioned the traffic generation and pattern proposed for the entire area, and stated that this property must be con- sidered onsidered with the additional multiple rezoning requests pending. Mr. Dunn reviewed the existing and proposed road patterns in the area, and indicated that there would probably be no better place in the Village to handle more automobiles, as Vernon Avenue is in a condition in that area to handle the traffic proposed and Olinger Road, which is part of the state -aid system, is proposed to be extended. Mr. Luce explained that Olinger Road and Vernon Avenue are state -aid roads which are designed to carry a great deal of traffic, in this case eventually to the Crosstown Highway.. In reply to Mr. Berman, Mr. Dunn stated that Olinger, Boulevard improved is 36 feet wide and Vernon Avenue as it is being improved will be 44 .feet wide. Air. Hughes stated that the plan proposed will preserve the hill more than if it were developed in apartments or single family homes, however., the density should perhaps be reduced further. Regarding the traffic, he stated that a professional traffic study should be conducted in this area to provide the answers necessary. Mr. Hughes moved that the rezoning request be continued and that the Counission request the Council hire a professional traffic firm to make a study incorporating the increased traffic according to the projections in the area. Mr. Lewis agreed but added that this should include all areas where proposals for multiple rezoning are pending in the Village. Mr, Robert Chance of 5804 Olinger goad, stated that a greater buffer should be provided between the dwellings proposed and the existing single family zone. He presented an alternative proposal indicating the pattern of development he would prefer and stated that although it allows the development of a large portion of the site in medium density dwellings, it would retain a lower density buffer immediately adjacent to the single family area and preserve: the topography of the site. He expressed concern that multiple rezoning would eventually be extended to the south and east and surround his property on three sides. Mro Luce stated that the Western Edina Plan does exist and should be appreciated in that multiple development will not spread outside those areas presently designated as such. Also, the developer has included the staff's suggestions that the site be developed as one property and the units be designed for indiv:';dual ownership. Fie stated that although the proposal presented by Mr, Chance could be considered an appropriate use of the land, is would not lend itself to ownership on the entire property. Mr. Tom Lang, 5816 Olinger Road, requested that the minutes reflect the concern expressed by the residents regarding the eventual increase of multiple zoning beyond those areas presently proposed as such in the Western. is-dina Plan. Mr. Huelster .veconded the motion made by Mr,. Hughes to continue the request until such time as action is taken on the proposal made by the Edina Homeowners Coalition and to recommend a professional village -wide traffic: study be conducted. All Voted Ayes; Motion Carried. Edina Planning Comnissios.2 -5- October 6, 1971 III. IAT DIVISIONS: LD=71 14 Lots 2 and -3. Onear Roberts First Addition„ Mr., Lure stated that the property is located in the Oscar Roberts area, west of France Avenue, and is zoned OBD office Building District., tie stated the request is to divide 41 feet from Lot 3 and add it to Lot 2, as the proposed building for Lot 3 does not require the amount of property provi.red4, lie indicated that several questions should be considered; namely, Hennepin Cour:ty will not permit additional curb cuts on France Avenue and does not approve of jointly owned curb cuts, an agreement was reached with the residentsthat two office buildings only would be constructed on France Avenue, and the proposed division could permit a further division of the northerly parcel, thereby creating three: lots zoned OBD on France. Mr. Luce recommended that the division be approved as requested, however, the Planning Commission should indicate that the parcel remaining to the north cannot be further divided unless the access for all future office parcels is to Gallagher Drive, Mr. Fluelster moved that the requested division be approved with the under- standing that the northern parcel remaining will not be further divided nor granted additional curb cuts onto France Avenue. fir. C. Johnson seconded tree motion. All Voted Aye. Motion Carried,, LD -71.15 Lot 3 Gunnar Johnson's Second Reart;ara�ement� Rp11tn�Green„ Mr. Luce stated that the property in question is located south of the north Village limits at the end of the Ann&jay Drive cul-de-sac;, He. indicated that the proposed division would not create an additional buildable lots, but would divide the easterly 21 feet of Lot 3 and add it to Lot 4, thus providi.rg better placement for the new construction on Lot 4. Mr. Ruelster moved that the requested division be approvcd,, -Aad Mr. C. Johnson seconded the motion. All Voted Aye. Motion Carried. IV, SUBDIVISIONS: SF -71®9 Griffith Replat. (Griffith Addition.) Mr. Luce stated that the property is located at the end of Wexford Road, and indicated that the final plat is in accordance with the prelinir.:,ary plat approved by the Commission and Council, He stated that Staz:f would recommend final plat approval and also that fees in lieu of parkland dedication be accepted to .fulfill the subdivision requirements. Mr,. Huelster moved that the "Griffith Repla?-�" be granted final plat approval, in accordance with the staff recommendation, and Mr. C. Jahnsan seconded the motion„ All Voted Aye,, Motion Carried,, SF -71=10 Metro US. Coristructi.on Subdivision. SF -»71-11 Atwood Statien Sub.iiviston, Mro Luce stated that both plats are located in the Edina Interchange Center area; the Atwood Station Subdivision is located west of the MinYrespolis, Northfield', il Edina Planning Commission -6- October 6, 1971 and Southern Railroad, east of Cahill Road, and north of West 78th Street, and the Metro U. S. Construction Subdivision is located east of the railroad, north of Dewey Hill Road, and west of hush Lake Road. Regarding the Atwood Station Subdivision, Mro Luce stated that the question, of access has been resolved and is provided on the plat, as requested by the Commission. He added that both final plats proposed are in conformance with the preliminary plats approved. Mro Hughes moved that the plats entitled "Atwood Station Subdivision" and "Metro U. S. Construction Subdivision" be granted final approval, and Mr. Huelster seconded the motion, All Voted Aye. Motion Carried. SP -71-14 Londonderry. Mr, Luce recalled that the proposed plat is for the Kremer townhouse proposal located north of Fabri-Tek and east of Nine Mile Creek. He stated that the staff would recommend final plat approval provided the dedication of Londonderry and Lincoln Drives is received and indicated on the plat, and also that the Village receive Lots B and D, and that which we need of Lot C. In response to Mr. Frank Berman, 6152 Arctic Way, Mr. Luce explained that the Londonderry Drive as proposed in this plat will not connect to the existing London- derry Drive located to the east, and the creek will be bridged. Ile clarified that PRD zoning has been approved for the site, and the owner is now requesting final plat approval to implement the zoning. Mr, C. Johnson moved that "Londonderry" be ;ranted fir..al plat approval, subject to the necessary engineering specifications and the dedications required, Mr, Iiuelster seconded the motion, All Voted Aye. Motion Carried, SP ->71-15 Southdale York %Addition. Mr. Luce stated that the property is generally at the southeast corner of West 66th Street and York Avenue, and is the result of further development and sale of Outlot A, Southdale York Addition for a McDonalds Restaurant and a Firestone T.B.A. Mr. Huelster moved that the proposed replat receive preliminary approval, and Mr. C. Johnson seconded the motion. All Voted Aye, Motion Carried. V, OTHER BUSINESS: 1. Windwood artments Lipihtine Plan, Mr. Luce recalled that overall development plan approval for the Windwood Apartments was granted, subject to receipt and approval of an exterior lighting plan, Ile stated that a reasonable plan for overhead and walkway lights has been received, and top lighting is being proposed in the center of the development to accentuate certain trees. Mr. Hughes stated that the lighting of the project could make: a great deal of difference and he would like to see further detail of the lighting fixtures, etc. Following further discussion, he moved that the matter be continued until further detailed plans are provided. Mr. C. Johnson seconded the motion.. All Voted Aye. Motion Carried, Edina. Planning Con=is ;ion w7m October 6, 1371 2. Petition foby;ress Itoaei Pram Western. Pa;rkwocd Y.rxol3s Mr,, Lewis stated that this also should be continued until the advisory committee is established and the proposes[ traffic study is completed. Mr. Luce recommended that the matte_ by tabled to permit furt4er .study at the staff level and Council action at a later date. Mro Luce stated that 42 signatures have beea received on a petition requesting additional egress -be provided from northern Paarkwood Knolls, as the traffic is excessive on View Land and Schaeffer road and will become worse when the area is developed to the north. IIe stated that several proposals are prere-,.tlq being considered by the staff, and added that any coauaection of roads would be serving the neighborhood only, as people will use the area for access and egress only and there would be no through traffic. He noted that there are no collector streets in the area presently, and this should be considered,, Dr„ Lloyd Pearson of 5700 View Lane stated. that the traffic has greatly increased over the last eight yearn, as basically, the reside-ntial streeta are being used for collectors was access to Vernon Avenue and eventually to the Crosstown Highway. Ile presented an aerial photograph with overlays to illustrat'.e the problem and explained the patterns that exist and the potential traffic patterns that will result following the completion of Walnut Ridge Park and the residential areas to the northwest. Ike presented four possible solutions to the situatiou, as follows: 1. Londonderry could be connected to County Road 13, however, although this would help with future traffic, it would not provide: much relief to the existing situation; 2. Londonderry could be connected to Walnut Drive, which would require a small bridge or culvert, and permit the residents to the north to get to the southern collectors; 3. the northern lots to be platted should have access to County Poad 18 or the traffic pattern existing will be worsened; and 4� several resideatial s•,: eets could be closed however this would not create a pe:.manent solution. Ila: stated that the situation should be studied by the staff, as the traffic flaw existing is poor and unsafe. Following further diseussion, 'Mr, Hughes moved rh:at the matter be continued for further study by staff in conjunction with the proposed professional traffic study. Mr. C. Johnson seconded the motion. All Voted Aye, Mo -ion Curried. 3. Adoption of Resolution for Edina Environmentz iCorina-�ssiono Mr. Luce recalled the meeting, held with the environmental committee regarding the possibility of establishing; an environmental qualivv commission. He read a proposed resolution to that effect (ora file in the Planning office) drafted by the staff in response to that discussion, and indicated that the resolution reflects the concern expressed that the proposed commission will be a duplication of duties presently charged to various Village and State boards, and also that the commission will provide only social and not technical recommendations,, Mr. C. Johnson stated that limiting the members to a percentage of experts in various fields relating to the environment is not feasible,, as the co=,ission is proposed to be made of nine members. It was agreed that in all instances;, the figura: °8251" should be charged to read 'T' members should be experts in tha various fields. Mr. Hughey suggested that the proposed resolution be discussed with Mr. John Telfer and the original committee, and also, that one member os the Environ mental Quality Commission proposed should also be a member of the Edina Homeowner's Coalition, Edina Planning Commission 1 --5- October 6, 1971 Mr. Luce clarified that the Commission could become a duplication of the duties of various other Village and State boards and should thus be limited to the technical aspects of planning and technical, not social, recommendations, Mr, C. Johnson stated that he is on the Ad lioc Committee who proposed the commission and added that their views are similar to those of the staff, as they propose appoint- ment of the members, selected from experts in various fields, by the Village Council, Following additional discussion, the Planning, Commission generally agreed that the resolution should be presented to Mr. John Telfer for his comments, revised, and returned at the next regular meeting .for further consideration, VII Adjournment,, Respectfully submitted, Lynnae Nye, Secretary