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Menbero Present: W, W Lauls, Chairmau, Q � Rug ea, T T Rwiyar, V C.
Sherman, V Q johnsua, V V, Johnson, W K, Q Undblom,,
Staff P esent: G. Luce, R. Duna, and L. N71 -
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A action to approve the Planning Commission miautco of April 4, 1973V
as subs': Wed, was vane by AV G. johnson and seconded by 10, Q Johnsan, All voted
aye. Otion carried
11. SOU77i EDINA PLMT,
Hr. Luca recalled the South Edina Plan received coLvapt anocvU at the
April m Oting, oxcept for the area soatb of Yorktvwn and nonh of Vith Street,
betweaa France and Xerxes kveauuo, He presented a geuarnli"& "lar for that nrea,
explain ng that the northarn part, includizg the Hedberg propetly and part of ynoRk-
town, x s identified by ths EK14 (Daniel, Mann, Johnson, and Nznaeuhalllp Study 03
have 6, Do stutomobile trips, or 6,250 trips for the parcel kouth 01 the walking
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stwip- Generally, Oa Hedberg pisae Wavle be alloved 2f�*:'g
abent 2 1 to (gress)per acre, He not& that K rightG-K-W and Parkland tre
dedica! Q OR .0-'Unex shou.Wry he Slav& to the trips alloeatV 107 -
that W i to Othar partisan of hio property,
W area South of 02 HeMang propzroy to 76th Qrznt was identified to hive
9,000 t jps Distributzd 2vsnly� vo Wausaei at the Apz�i va�:i'.us
parcein joaLd be allowed 175 tniy� per acre,
Mr. Luca cammented that &A%ongh & minUmn elib"t V"an,-,.ux,k llexcludlag the
Park 0" AP) is plgmavd, worm fle"Abilivy vii:.. be 'aliO"7c:d UO sided cultsple monlyi;
ie anao rgged along Tozk Avsvv;� ni" tc..',wpr cc balance On ral bar OE trips I&
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variov'CL peak, hotury from the dif Wort land Uees. Althoup','. 1 d
be prob 51ted, Md anes apthe -ast side of York a&uhd 1-,; Llls.3d; vra tlie- erx
of 700 hounver, 65% of vl-;a 'trips tj-
t to rvAtipla zesidearialf
(only I Z of ths trips can bc usne for develepmznE other 10m unitypla
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he we Wane ad Novice Q=na", ooazh of yanth at 75th Street) T,
approwl 1 tht" 1-a..'Anuctn" ti ptapary a 111MI aerrOOZ an& granhic at the
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Ar, RaNy 101e, Layr,601VIVa Hapen Sr -c" s-�Id KOTP % stated 2 112 aornis-
prupazi. in in 2001.,ing7vn, ano has ToWned proh! lma7y LpProval fc: �nae
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iiia LOT 0IVISIONS.-
LD-730-2 JChn 4: HcPher-E-gin, 5417 r -ant -on &,-enur- 32 & 33, Wardan Acres,
Mr. Luca noted the property location, irmedistely adjacent to tile jff�-,ns
Railrcz,.',,, He pointed out: the ex--eSting lot line bet,;,-ean 1.a -z; aac' 33, cmd n--tiad a
house E A detec�ied garage bane be,,m bu4.3t art lot 33� He t'he Ids
to re,&l Ade the lots along a shesicn in grade* lo;� 'vc,-�ld be.. a builds.ble,
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single 'amily lat of about 33,000 square feet, and lot 33 be apprcx5m.v.,toly
30,000 quare feat, Mr. Luce rec3mmended approval of
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Edina "' -annIng `est 4471 caaslp':
Nay "_." 1973
S-73-6 Replat, Qzma:-xalj:.�-, rorth of West 66th,
Street, east of Sherwood Avenue, and Iirf:inia Avarxe
(4.730 West 66th—S_t—re_e_t)_.
Mr. Luce noted the property location and presental -.-ro",sed four lot
subdivt;ion. He noted additional land was obtained Vnen 'Iyan tad Parnell Avenues
were v, -,:aced to 66th Street. One house exists on the pro s-_-rry,
The Planning Cowdasion generally agreed the prap,2rty s'roar "Yd be more evenly
divided,, and following &LIscussion, Mr. Hughes moved the -.g ibdiviAon be approved if
the proponent agrees to revise the preliminary plat by m-;1ug Cie uaast line of
Lots 3 and 4 (proposed) l'urther vast and the south line o.7 -Lot L (proposed) further
south.. If the proponent does not agree to make the chan&s su&,?,esf:ed, the subdivision
as orig:'nally drawn should be returned to the Planning Cc;miissioa for further study.
Mr. 0. "'Ohnson seconded the motion. All voted aya. Hotii')rj. c-ir-,:ied.
Vs REZONINGS:
2-72-6 Relocatioin (Thee country Hq-Tte 0B:-.g'x-fz'Qr Hills)�
located east of Braemar Park and eouth of Gleaj_son pimse.
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jk7=and 3825. Section 8 Toitqnsh:1p 116, Wanne 21,,,
Single Family Rzaidernee District PRD-2 rlr--sed Reside
Bistricto
,fr. Luca noted the developer has ptirchased the Diien'r; Property directly east
since 4s requeat was last revie.�ied, The present I-xGposal includes 1.44 units in
24 "z -=,iota sty `c!" structs es cn 2L92 acres (5,16 units -,)e-,- av-0, A land trade
would b: involved in that the developer would give. 1.91 a,_ -res t,., Braemar Park it -t
excheag: for .89 acre of park property 4_n another area,, 1.11rs. Liv. _-e stated conc,;pt
approvo co-..,.ld be granted at this time. heuTever, final &.r.-elopr:-nit -,plans must include
detai1r; enginen:-:ing grapphi.cs, a i�;vbdi�ision_
and the exciv-Yq-,�c .�f deedis.
In reply to mr. c� Jo7nnscra, mix. Lace explained GIe,;can Road will c+3nnect
to 78th Street, probably at Harth Road.
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ale Cremers., representing the owner and devc!"oper, pointed out the
'good`" -nd "bad" soil areas, and indicated about 60-65% o.-` "-hc site, in:Juding
roads, ., ill rs=aln green space. pe: stated approval is no i:evu-,i at this time,
only ancommsmf.-s or recorciendations the Planning Cc=aio,;:�.On r1g�ht haves,
Arm Lewic and Mr, Flulghes -%uggested the e ensit-�P bo redvc,id frcm' 5 to 4 units
per az7 -.,, Mr. Sliermm- and. Nre, W-.aycn. indicated they wern. more. '!oncerneu with the
buildi'll'.-I and a-,,Chite:cture,, After discusoian, the Cc -a",ais Sion generally
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agreed hey waro 'impres,.-ed" Wft"�, 'rhZ gMeral CCnCej1L aMl d-aSig-1. Na feurther action
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Z-73-5 Darrel A,. Farr 13ave-loprient Cor crest on_ Oer-.c-^alksr located scuth
of Fabri-Tek an1 north of t1ae Ediva cf
ca,IhUptrict to -.P.R:0-3-
lr. Lucc'2 reziheel �:'hnt a 12 unif4 liar acre pl-an w. -Is
for thf-a 'p:,mpa�:ty 'bastr-cc�_� I c -r 7,
nt -4-1-cb raiLz(71 qi- re?.,arding in. appro-
pria-V7- ..and use- Aithough tha Lljgri presented a p.71 --'a", i-,mzn,'!1zent for indw3vzial
Edina. _anning Co ssio n --4_ May 2, s973
develc�p.mnt only, after a presentatim by the propcne t `-e con. sideration, it
Was dec:Aed the plan should not b-- changed at this time a for multiple
residca.`::ial dwellings would be considered. The proponent; has W inc;. ; hired a different
architeett and site planner and has prepared a new conceps : nor v.ultipie a-ellings.
He stated the p.p.an "reflects quite well the topography on the -:ate` and recommended
It be approved provided the property is platted and provided it is understood concept
approval at this time does not include approval of any :L=Zorpmwati.cn included in the
final development plans.
Mr. Loren Galpin reviewed the site location, size r-nd topography, and
reviewed again industrial versus multiple residential land use on the site. The
project, 11.1 units per acre on a 16+ acre tracts will i:ac-,ludo1.5 underground and
.5 surfrce parking spaces per unit. Approximately 71.5% of the site will remain open
space. Because the buildings would have single loaded co:-ridora and a series of 'ruse°'
areas a --:e planned, all units will have good views. Mae G,nlf)in presented sectiones
and ele-rations of the structures and court areas, and noz.!d, p? a'at materials will be
used ex :ensively. He presented a typical floor plan of Ole one -bedroom. (865 square
feet), €.:wo-bedroom (1175 square feet), and three-bedroom r1544 aquare feel.) Lna i; �
adding '-hat all of the buildings will be three stories,
Mr. Robert Kasbohm, 6147 Arctic Way, stated that; 11thcuSh the proponent, o
traffic studies indicated there would be no significant d:Tffexe>ace in -raffic genera-
tion if the site is developed industrial rather than mu.p t:1.pl.e. the homemyners have
ccntinue._liy questioned the aggregate traffic 8equiremento following development of
the `nt..re area., Hr. Jack Anderson, the proponent's tra -= -ic co-nsultant, recalled
briefly his presentation of larch 14, 1973, and noted to -;a1 dcvel.opmeznt of the
quadraaa-% was asau red. Because Vernon Avenue is under the jurisdiction of He nel)in
County, aot the Village of Edina, Mr. Kasbobm questioned ; h :the-: Mr. A€ndersoa and
Tillage officials can sas elg assure It will not be 7"rcr; Gleason road to the
DominicTI interenange on Catmty Roaid 13. Mr. Kesbolum ques`:3cned Mr, Lnderson�s
statist:'.cs,, and Mr. Dunn,, the Vili ge EngIneer, stated p~'�iccisns he has nerds cisme
within ;en perce-rat of the volume Mr. Anderson figured.
Ar. Marshall Piesenskow-ski, 6537 polar Circle, Vii:iag hills F?omecaners Associ—,
ation,, F1)served the density has not been reduced although the G,;rmissior, at th+air
March It th meeting, suggested it chould be. fir„ Levie re >nders ttla Village de-uld
be in a difficult position legally if this site was rcquf.-,' i to be mucta less than
12 unit, per acne, the deasity granted projects direc l—y- aawd cout�a sof this
proper. A,;
Several Comminsion members observed that thn, rZG, !c'i, a> p�ype Hca crowdeP. Mr.
Galpin ";-Fated si.nsgle loaded corridors may tend to m :,ke thc.brills+.ing�a aapcar bulky
an a ci' : plan. however, regardless, it would be impovsib .s tc:. `sco through" they
develop;_ ant frr m any po:L-,t baccruce of the slope down,, Mr, :'obis ,hick'., th.er; architect,
added w` hal. e boan clay urec' because of 't1ie area on the easy;
and o` ' ae site axed becaus : of t€ a number of activity arcz.-n ihr.-.)Ughout the projact�
6s Ak3�x' 1
consi.de-rablw di.scussior�, Mr. Runyan movvd the concept be appraved
ss x_ -c . ,,a€: tided, =d PL% G, Jahnsca scconded the moti.onc, i.1l, vo . d aye, T3otion carried;,
3m73-7 Ra;abrondt 13-atexrrises. Inc., Generally at t:aca sout�aweat
corre3 ow t a
C'roastownHx �t � �tnd ,e TM t? ��u Ii l Mulei�le
Rs�icience t.a.at€!t to Ea .� F�u:�tipl.e �.es1.c t ,c� ��.sa.:r:�.rt4
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Edina P.*'Anning ' Omi asion,
Hay 2, 1973
Mr. Luce Indicated the site location and suzrro-zmla,.3� T-.ezvning
is requested to allow the construction of a 14 atony, 140 uai,..,. re.irement homy: on
a tract of land less than one acre in size. The bw1ldin- wou�%ei, miderstandebly,
provide fewer parking spaces than required, however, no s:.--tback requirementv would be
met and the proposed floor area ratio would exceed the ma7-.iUW,,i allowed in my toning
district. He recommended the rezoning be denied.
Mr. Gene Stevens, representing Rembrandt Enterpri,3es, I.-atroduced Wayne Field,
Ellsworth Johnson, and Dick Mochinski. He stated 107 onebadruzzm and 33 two-bedroom
units are presently planned, and noted all parking providid, would be underground.
He explained Rembrandt Enterprises "feels justified in as".-cing far -z�.ezon:Ing end the
necessary parking, setback, and density variances becaus-2 they 1lave to service the
need that exists in Edina" for this type of facility, and becau3e this is an
efficient use of the land.
After considerable discussion, the Planning Commi3sion generally agreee,* a
need exIsts but the building planned would be too large 23r the land area available
and wou'Id be completely out of scale with the neighborhool,,
Mr. Ellsworth Johnson stated the Commission's vauld be taken into
conside,,-ation and a modified building plan presented at a later date,
Mr. Sam Schneider objected to the Rembrandt devel-:)paenu because "they
donate -'--heir property to non-profit organizations W. -.d tha3 do r -_at pay real estcte
taxes". In addition, Mr. Schneider felt more parking sho%ild be required for the
project because several of the retirement complex tenanta� rent garr-ge spaces from
him.
No action taken.
Z-73-9 Creekside Development Company. Generaly
11ccated at the southeast
corner of 44th Street and North - & , renue, - R-1 3fii9le Vituilv ReFaIdan
District to R-2 Multiple Residence Dis-Z-riet,
The rezoning request by Creekside Developm.ent: Q,7,Apany was withdrawr- prior
to the -,-,-.eeting.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS:
to Resolution of4ppreciation.
It was generally agreed a Resolution of Appre%::iation for Roy K�
Erickscr;-.,, who recently resigned from the Planning Comuis�,:,.oa ef Eect:ive May 1, 1973,
should ',ne drafted by the staff for adoption at the P,.ext meeting, No further
action, .aken.
VII. ADJOURNI=�
Respectftily 3�_Ibnivad,
Lynn as C, Nye, lc(-cretary