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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978 09-06 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION HELD WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 1978, at 7:30 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS Members Present: Chairman Bill Lewis, Mr. James Bentley, Mr. Leonard Fernelius (arrived late), Mr. Sam Hughes, Mr. Del Johnson, Mr. Gordon Johnson, Ms. Helen McClelland, Mrs. Mary McDonald, Mr. David Runyan, Mr. Richard Seaberg. Staff Present: Mr. Gordon Hughes, Planning Director; Mr. Fran Hoffman, Director of Public Works and Engineering; Mr. Harold Sand, Assistant Planner; Miss Judy Teichert, Secretary. I. Approval of the September 6, 1978, Minutes. Mr. Sam Hughes moved approval of the August 2, 1978, minutes of the Community Development and Planning Commission meeting. Ms. Helen McClelland seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. Old Business: S-78-10 Victorsen's Timbers . R-1 Single Family Subdivision. Generally located at the southeast corner of the Crosstown Highway and Gleason Road. Mr. Gordon Hughes said the Commission should recall that the proposed subdivision had been previously considered at past meetings when a single family subdivision of the site was proposed to have access by way of two cul-de- sacs, one from Indian Hills Pass and the second from Gleason Road. He said that after reviewing the plan, the Commission with a split vote of five votes of approval and five votes of denial, referred the request to the City Council. The City Council, after reviewing the requested subdivision several times and touring the site, referred the subdivision proposal back to the Planning Commission with the request that the proponent consider alternative designs for the subdivision, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated. He continued that the proponent was now returning with a redesign of the single family plat which eliminated the access to Indian Hills Pass and Gleason :toad, and instead replaced it with one access at McCauley Trail. Mr. Gordon Hughes shared that the advantage to the subdivision was the removal of the intersection which staff deemed as somewhat dangerous; the disadvantages were that the roadway grades were increased from the previous proposal of eight percent to twelve percent, and the need for more cutting, retaining walls, and disturbance to vegetation would be necessary to accomplish the proposed roadway. Stating that the staff felt the advantages of the revised sub- division outweighed the disadvantages, Mr. Gordon Hughes explained the primary problem with previous proposals had been the intersections and the access roads. He also added that traffic counts done on McCauley Trail and Indian Hills Pass indicated that Indian Hills Pass carried roughly twice the traffic volume of McCauley Trail, with Indian Hills Pass totalling in excess of 1,000 cars per day and McCauley Trail 600 cars per day. Therefore, Mr. Hughes said staff felt the intersection at McCauley Trail would present a much less traffic hazard to the area due to less traffic and a more appropriate intersection. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 2 Mr. Gordon Hughes continued that while the staff was concerned about use of the site for single family purposes, they nevertheless believed that the proposed subdivision was superior to previously submitted designs primarily because many of the public safety concerns had been answered. He also noted that should the Commission wish to recommend approval of the subdivision, the following conditions should be considered: 1) A scenic and open space easement 100 feet upland from Arrowhead Lake should be required. 2) A grading permit from the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District should be required. 3) Approval of an Erosion Control Plan. 4) Subdivision Dedication. 5) An executed Developer's Agreement. Mr. Hughes introduced Mr. Richard Keenan and Mr. Ron Bastor who were present representing the proponents. Mr. Keenan stated that this proposal was presented as an alternative to previous pians. He felt the primary advantage of the new plan was the safety factor in that the sharp turn was eliminated; the primary disadvantage from the Victorsen's standpoint was the proposed subdivision was reduced to twenty one lots. Mr. Gordon Johnson asked Mr. Keenan how many trees would have to be removed. Stating that no actual count had been taken, Mr. Keenan replied that the McCauley .Trail right of way would result in the removal of 196 trees or 62 percent of the trees on the overall piece of property; the actual house and driveways would necessitate the removal of 210 trees which is 7 percent; the embankment or retaining wall would take 4 percent of the trees for a total of 172 percent. Mr. Keenan stated that the entrance safety factor in this proposal would result in 12 percent more trees taken than in previous proposals. Mr. Sam Hughes questioned how the retaining walls would be constructed. Mr. Ron Bastor answered they would be constructed with railroad ties going up five feet, back three feet, and up five feet to a maximum height between lots four and five of 27 feet. Chairman Lewis asked Mr. Gordon Hughes how the railroad tie construction would hold up. Mr. Hughes cited a couple homes on Dakota Trail had satisfactorily used them. Mr. Fran Hoffman, Director of Public Works and Engineering, stated a large wall on 78th Street was built which had a sixteen to eighteen foot drop and was effective. Mr. Sam Hughes wondered if they would be on both sides of the road, but Mr. Bastor replied they would be on ine side only. Mr. Richard Seaberg asked if Lot 22 was not buildable. Mr. Keenan explained that Lot 19 was the existing Victorsen residence so there would be 21 additional buildable lots. Mr. Seaberg also asked if the increased grade would be acceptable to emergency vehicles. Mr. Gordon Hughes said the proposed grade of the roadway was twelve percent, and he had received recommendation from the Public Safety Director that from an emergency vehicle standpoint they could serve the subdivision. Mr. Seaberg further questioned the current status of the access to McCauley Trail in regards to the Crossview Lutheran Church property. Mr. Gordon Hughes shared that in the past two or three weeks several meetings had been held with the Church's Council and other individuals, and their representative, Mr. Calvin Kuhlman, was present at the meeting to speak in their behalf. Mr. Calvin Kuhlman stated that within the church organizati, Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 3 the ultimate decision lay with the voter assembly who had not convened to evaluate the merits of the proposal at that point. He continued however, that the Council, who would ultimately make recommendation to the church body, had convened and preliminarily did not.resist the subdivision proposal but desired to make known their concern in regards to another parcel of land in the area they owned. Mr. Kuhlman said that while the church had made no official stand, they hoped to act on the issue soon. Mr. Harry Murphy commented he felt the four homeowners on the lower left cul-de-sac were still affected in the same manner. He requested first that the road be moved to the north if at all possible, and second that a cedar fence be constructed to hide cars on the road, and if these two conditions could be met, he would withdraw any objections to the plans as shown. In reply, Mr. Ron Bastor pointed out first that in the proposal the actual improved roadway would be 41 feet from the Murphy residence, and second that Mr. Victorsen was proposing -to construct an earth berm along Lots 15 and 16 at a height of four feet. Chairman Lewis asked Mr. Murphy if that would be adequate to which Mr: Murphy replied it would not be. He felt a six foot earth berm would be more appropriate, although he still favored a cedar fence. Mr. Runyan asked Mr. Murphy what his floor level would be rela- tive to the road because he did not feel a six foot earth berm would be necessary. Mr. Murphy answered that all he wanted was some privacy as he owned 70 percent of the land in the twelve foot area. Chairman Lewis asked if the Victorsen's would be opposed to a cedar fence. Mr. Richard Keenan stated the family felt an earth berm would be more appropriate than a cedar fence, and because Mr. Murphy's home was on a lower level than the road, the four foot berm should preserve his privacy and obstruct any direct site line. Mr. Sam Hughes asked Mr. Gordon Hughes who would be responsible for the maintenance of a cedar fence. Mr. Gordon Hughes stated on private property the homeowner is responsible, but on right of way it is the City's responsibility. Mr. Keenan was advised by Mr. Bastor that,a six foot earth berm could be arranged, to which Mr. Murphy agreed that it was fine to him. Mr. Bob Perkins of 6909 Dakota Trail, president of the Indian Hills Homeowners Association voiced concern over the amount of vegetation that would be disturbed. Noting that the average lot size of the proposed subdivision was approximately 12 acre, Mr. Perkins cited that the eleven lots in Indian Hills #1 average 1 1/3 acres, the six lots along Indian Hills Road average 11� acres in size, and the 16 lots along Indianhead Lake average 1.1 acre. He continued that the fewer lots and driveways put in, the less vegetation would be disturbed. Mr. Bastor commented that the developer was also concerned about the conservation of trees and vegetation to the point that each lot would be under a restrictive covenant that would require that the development or building on each lot be primarily concerned with the natural vegetation of that lot. Mr. James Bentley asked if Lot 12 was to be developed like any other lot, or if it would be further subdivided in the future. Mr. Keenan replied it would be singe family with no plans to subdivide it in the future. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 4 • Mr. Dave Runyan spoke to the concerns of vegetation saying that no matter how many lots were built, the road configuration would basically remain the same.He stated that sky -rocketing land costs were reducing lot sizes. Mr. Sam Hughes moved acceptance of the revised plans with the stipulations specified by staff, contingent upon acquisition of the right of way from Crossview Lutheran Church, the inclusion of the covenants in the deed restric- tion, and a six foot earth berm. Mr. Del Johnson seconded the motion. Upon poll the following voted: Ayes: Mr. Bill Lewis, Mr. Sam Hughes, Mr. Del Johnson, Mrs. Mary McDonald, Mr. Richard Seaberg, Mr. David Runyan, Mr. Gordon Johnson. Nays: Ms. Helen McClelland, Mr. James Bentley Not voting: Mr. Len Fernelius (absent) The motion carried. Z-78-8 Kerr Companies. R-1 Single Family District to 0-2 Office District. Generally located at 4917 Eden Avenue. Mr. Gordon. Hughes reminded the Commission of their August 2, 1978 approval granting rezoning of the property from single family to 0-2. He continued that the matter was heard by the City Council August 21, 1978, at which time they questioned the traffic generation on Willson Road, the ability of City sewer and water to accommodate the proposed development, and the proposed size of the building. The Council, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated, was generally favorable toward the site's use for offices but questioned the magnitude of the development as proposed, and therefore voted to refer the request back to the Planning Commission with the request that they review the items of the Council's concern. Mr. Gordon Hughes then informed the Commission that Mr. Bob Martinson was present to represent Kerr Companies and answer any questions. Mr. Martinson introduced Mr. Norm Kerr, the developer; architect Mr. Bob Bell; BRW traffic engineer Mr. Dave Warner; and Mr. Chuck Wood who was concerned with the site's landscaping. Mr. Martinson began the presentation by giving a general overview in regard to the area of concern expressed by the Council. To probe the traffic problem in greater depth, Mr. Martinson introduced Mr. Dave Warner who gave a quick review of the traffic study that had been previously presented to the Commission and highlighted the changes that would occur due to the change in scope of the project. Mr. Warner strove to answer four questions: 1) How many trips willthisproject generate? 2) How are those trips going to get to and from the site? 3) How will this generated traffic change the traffic volumes in the area? and 4) What impact will this change in traffic volume have on traffic flow around the site? Mr. Chuck Wood then talked about how the landscaping of the site would be approached, basically saying that as much natural screening as possible M Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 5 would be provided. Architect Mr. Bob Bell spoke to the number of parking stalls required and how that number was arrived at revealing that the proposed plan was now below the minimum number of spaces required while still meeting all the nec- essary requirements. Mr. John Raap of 4814 Golf Terrace inquired as to the elevation of the projected roof height. Mr. Martinson answered it would be 982 feet, identical to the Eden 100 building. Mr. Raap continued.that while the plan was well done, it was not sufficient for the residential district who had purchased their homes with the thought that the area would remain residential and would like to see some.- thing ome-thing relatively unobtrusive to the neighborhood. Mr. Raap also asked what the projected cost of the building would be, as well as what the tax impact would be. Mr. Martinson replied that the 32 million dollar project would probably multiply tax by at least five times. Mr. Raap stated that a big concern was the visual impact of the building, the quality of materials, the actual building configuration, and the traffic impact. on the area. Mr. Martinson said an off-white stucco building with tinted glass was being considered. Mrs. McDonald raised several questions, one of which was in regards to the Council's concern over the city sewer and water system. Mr. Gordon Hughes answered that would be no problem whatsoever. Her second question concerned the zoning difference between 0-2 and 0-1, which Mr. Gordon Hughes explained was exactly the same except for height of the building. Mr. Don Hey of 4706 Golf Terrace voiced.his concern about additional traffic on Willson Road, and added he did not approve of the proposal. Mr. Newell 0. Gaasedelen of 4818 Golf Terrace stated that the comment was made in the previous request that a half acre was too heavy a concen- tration for single family but in the Kerr proposal 250 people were being put on a 32 acre site. Mr. Gaasedelen also spoke to the tax issue, the maintenance of the lot, and the possibility of using the lot for tennis courts or parkland. Dr. Harry B. Hall, 4902 West Lakeview Drive, whose primary con- cern was traffic problems, especially in regard to Highway 100, also was con::erned with the sewage problem, type of renters for the building, the bike riders and need for a traffic light, and special assessments that might be levied against him. Mr. John Raap asked why 55,000 square feet of office space was trying to be crammed in this small R -l. area when Edina had other open space zoned specifically for office buildings. Particularly concerned with the conservation of underground resources, Alison Fuhr of 6609 Brittany Road asked to what extent pilings would have to be used to build on the peat ground. Mr. Bob Martinson replied that the site conditions were such that the building would need pilings. Mr. Leslie V. Randall, Jr. of 4709 Golf Terrace respectfully requested that the property in question remain zoned residential. The attorney representing the developer as well as the owner, Mr. Greg Gustafson, presented a brief history of the property, and pointed out that the Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 6 traffic studies done by the public sector concurred with those done by the private sector saying that 95 percent of the building's generated traffic would flow away from the residential neighborhood. Mr. Chuck Wood again spoke to the traffic problem sharing that Kerr would only add 50 cars a day to the Willson Road traffic. Mr. Sam Hughes stated that the commercial -industrial district had been held to the west side of Highway 100 which made the proposed request inappro- priate to the area. Chairman Lewis endorsed Mr. Sam Hughes comment, and also was opposed to the request. Mr. Dave Runyan, saying he felt the building was as well sited as it could be to create a small visual impact from the north or south, further cited that with the soil problems and odd shape of the lot, office use would be more appropriate than a single family use because such a dwelling would probably not be able to afford the pilings that would be required. Mr. Sam Hughes, in agreement with Mr. Runyan's previous statement, said his only objection was that commercial use should be held to the west side of Highway 100. Chairman Lewis expressed concern over the precedent if Kerr were allowed to build on the proposed site. Mr. Del Johnson questioned if the proponents in anticipation of opposition to the rezoning had considered 0-1 office use on the site. Mr. Bob Martinson replied they had not because in discussions with planning staff it was felt 0-2 was the most appropriate zoning for the site. Mr. Martinson stated that this zoning allows the proponents to shorten the building and, thereby reduce the problems of piling required and cost involved. Mr. Len Fernelius questioned the Planning Commission's strategy to hold the industrial -commercial district line to the west side of Highway 100. Chairman Lewis explained that it had always been agreed that there would be no extension of the 50th and France commercial district west based on the supposition that once a precedent was set, the Commission would not be able to control expan- sion spread. Mr. Richard Seaberg moved that the Planning Commission approve the rezoning request to 0-2, which Mr. Dave Runyan seconded. Upon roll call the following voted: Ayes: Ms. Helen McClelland, Mrs. Mary McDonald, Mr. Richard Seaberg, Mr. Len Fernelius, Mr. Dave Runyan, Mr. James Bentley, Mr. Gordon Johnson. Nays: Mr. Bill Lewis, Mr. Sam Hughes, Mr. Del Johnson Motion carried. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 7 Z-78-10 Rauenhorst Corporation. R-1 Single Family District and to PID - Planned Industrial District. X-78-14 Edina Office Center. Generally located at the north- west quadrant of West 76th Street and France Ave. South. Staff recommended that the Rauenhorst Corporation request be held over until the September 27, 1978 Community Development and Planning Commission meeting. Mr. James Bentley moved the request be granted based on staff recommendation. Mr. Sam Hughes seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. 5-78-15 Dewey Hill Condominiums. Generally located at the and southwest quadrant of Cahill Road and Dewey Hill Road. S-78-14 (Overall development plan and subdivision.). Mr. Gordon Hughes informed the Planning Commission that the pro- perty was located west of Cahill Road and south of Dewey Hill Road. He said the Commission had reviewed it at their previous meeting and granted preliminary approval to Planned Residential District -3 for a three building condominium. The City Council on August 2, 1978, also heard the request, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated, and granted first reading. Returning with the final development plans, Mr. Gordon Hughes noted that staff found the plans acceptable but had received a petition from several property owners for the vacation of the northerly 800 feet of Delaney Boulevard which would be heard on September 18,•1978 by the City Council. Also, Mr. Gordon Hughes cited conditions staff felt should be placed on the development which included: an executed developers agreement, receipt of a subdivision dedi- cation, and granting of various utility and water storage easements in conjunction with final platting. Mr. Hughes introduced Mr. Mel Gittleman, developer of the site, to answer questions. Mr. Len Fernelius asked what the probability of Delaney Boulevard's vacation would be. Mr. Gordon Hughes estimated the vacation had a small chc.nce of approval. Mr. Gittleman pointed out that he would have no reluctance whatso- ever to donating the outlot in the southwest quadrant to the City. Mr. Gordon Hughes responded that the outlot could be used for ponding but probably would not satisfy the parkland dedication requirement. Mr. Jerry Boch, 7415 Coventry Way, requested that his statement as reported in the August 2, 1978, minutes be corrected to reflect that the question regarding the vacation of Delaney Boulevard must be addressed by the City Council and not necessarily the Commission. Mr. Sam Hughes moved the minutes be changed to show the correction as stated. Ms. Helen McClelland seconded the motion to which all voted aye. The Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 8 motion carried. Mr. Len Fernelius moved the Dewey Hill request be approved subject to the adherence to the staff recommendations; Mr. Sam Hughes seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. Z-78-11 Proposed Commercial Use of Easterly Portion of Tract A, R.L.S. No. 1365 (East of Junior Achievement Building) Dayton Hudson. Mr. Gordon Hughes stressed the matter was neither a rezoning nor a subdivision and that the subject property was zoned C-3 for commercial purposes. Recalling that about a year and a half ago a lot division.was granted for a parcel of property south of 69th street and east of Valley View Road to facilitate the construction of the Junior Achievement Building on the west part of the property, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated the easterly portion was still vacant but when the City Council approved the division at the time their concern was that the property not be marketed for commercial use to avoid increased traffic. Mr. Gordon Hughes noted that Daytons, having agreed that the property would only be marketed for office use, recently entered into a purchase agreement for the site with a health spa which serves primarily women and proposes a two story building for the site, with the first level being health spa and the second level containing corporate offices for the spa. Mr. Gordon Hughes said the City Council had heard the matter and pointed out to Dayton's that this was a commercial use for the site which was contrary to the promise made when the lot division was granted. Mr. Gordon Hughes pointed out, however, that a 9,000 square foot floor area was proposed for the site as compared to a much larger office building which could potentially result if it were used for office space. Mr. Gordon Hughes noted that Daytons had agreed to enter into an agreement with the City to control the reuse of the building were it ever vacated. The City Council sought in referring this matter to the Planning Commission, not for a recommendation on rezoning or platting, but the recommendation to see if a health spa would be a proper use of the site given past obligations. Concluding that staff was supportive of the recommendation, Mr. Gordon Hughes intro- duced Mr. Emmett Albergotti of Dayton Hudson and a representative from the health spa, Mr. Frank Mills. Mr. James Bentley asked if the spa would have access to 692 Street. Mr. Gordon Hughes replied that staff was recommending against access from that direction. Mr. Emmett Albergotti stated that this site would be Spa Petite's national corporate headquarters. In terms of traffic generation, Mr. Albergotti said the spa by code and according to experts would require almost the identical amount of parking that an office building would. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 9 Mr. Dave Runyan asked first what would happen if the offices moved out and both floor were made into health spa with the equipment located on the second floor, and second would the parking requirements change ifthat were the case. Mr. Gordon Hughes answered that since the building relatively the parking requirement would be a minor change of two or three parking Mr. Dave Runyan questioned if they had received the ed permission e of Junior Achievement to use their drive. Mr. Gordon Hug Po there was an easement provided. Mrs. Mary McDonald wondered if that would make a new curb cut. Mr. Gordon Hughes stated the new cut would deflocated n 69sign,r et. Mrs. Mary McDonald asked how far that would be located Gordon Hughes responded there would be a 200 foot area from the intersection with a right turn out only. that the spa would be used at off -hours Mr.. Frank Mills noted primarily anyway. Mr. Clifford Johnson of 6712 Cornelia Drive recalled the promise past which was now being broken, and voiced Daytons had made to the residents in the p revious promise. his feeling that Daytons should be held to their p Mr. Emmett Albergotti stated the traffic would-be doubled if an be office building were put in. He further commented that a deed restriction wises. entered into with the City to legally ensure a commitment and avoid broken prom Ms. Pam Keating of 6901 Dawson Lane voiced her oacerofabout fiparkingrst the drainage and storm sewer inadequacies of the area, fourth the third the dangerous intersection of thelaccessey wrecommendatiStreet, onsmadeby staff. height of the building, and finally Mr. Holm, who resides direcly across thefrom areathe duringJunior aArainstormt Building presented pictures of the flooding problem Mr. Fran Hoffman, Director of Pub Engineering puttingfor in the City, in response to the slides replied he was also concerned about more blacktop. Mr. Len Fernelansweredasked theythe weresize searchirgstorm forsewer wayswould be increased. to divert the water north pastFran Hoffman Southdaleoffice sites. Mr. Alan Schmidt of 7005 Bristol Boulevard addressed three points: first the traffic never decreases, it only increases; second, he read correspondence ton -Hudson promise; third, he wondered how good a deed restriction regarding the Day was. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 10 Mr. Frank Knolls representing the spa petite commented that European Health Spa generated 450 cars per day whereas Spa Petite anticipated 150 people per day. Mr. Tom Dodges, a realestate agent involved in the sale, pointed out that under current zoning standards, handball courts are permitted in office buildings. After general discussion, Mr. Dave Runyan stated that an office building would -take more paved area than the proposed Spa Petite. Ms. Helen McClelland asked if there was a way to check expansion in the building. Mr. Gordon Hughes explained he would advocate a two.phase deed restriction which would first address that if they vacated the building the City would have to approve the new use, and second,.the City would have to approve any expansion. Mr. Len Fernelius moved the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that the probable plan is consistent with the best use of the plan and should include the two phase deed restriction. Ms. Helen McClelland seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. Z-78-12 Oasis Petro Energy Corporation. 3500 West 69th Street. R.L.S. No. 629, Tract H. Southdale Gas Station Plan Review. Mr. Gordon Hughes explained that this request concerned the existing gas station on the south side of Southdale. Pointing out that staff would like more time to study the plans in detail, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated staff would try to eliminate curb cuts on West 69th Street. Mr. Gordon Hughes introduced Mr. Parker Anderson, the Oasis Petroleum Representative from Los Angeles, California, who said Oasis would attempt to alleviate the traffic mix-up on West 69th Street. Mr. Anderson briefly described plans for the proposed gas station for the Commission's examination. Mr. Dave Runyan asked what the parking stalls indicated on the site were for. Mr. Anderson answered the stalls were placed there at the request of Dayton Hudson but were now being replaced with landscaping. Mr. Anderson explained that Oasis was a general leasee of the Dayton Hudson Corporation so plans must be cleared with that company first, and they were seeking general conceptual approval to continue with the plans presented. Having no further discussion, the matter was held over until the September 27, 1978 CD and PC meeting. LD -78-8 Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No. 172. Edina HRA. Minutes of the 9-6-78 CD and PC Meeting Page 11 Mr. Gordon Hughes explained that the Housing and Redevelopment Authority had sold some land and would like to create two parcels of land, one being the old Liquor Store site and the other the parking ramp. Because one parcel was being sold, Mr. Gordon Hughes stated a lot division was required. Mr. Gordon Johnson moved approval of the lot division, which was seconded by Mr. Len Fernelius. All voted -aye; the motion carried. IV. Adiournment. Respectfully submitted, Judy Te.ichert, Secretary