HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983 04-27 Planning Commission Meeting Miinutes RegularCOMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 27, 1983, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Bill Lewis, Gordon Johnson, David Runyan,
John Palmer, Helen McClelland, Mary McDonald, Len Ring,
John Skagerberg and Phil Sked
MEMBERS ABSENT: Del Johnson and James Bentley
STAFF PRESENT: Gordon Hughes, City Planner
Linda Eisen, Secretary
I. Approval of the Minutes: March 30, 1983
John Palmer moved for approval of the minutes and Len Ring seconded
the motion. All were in favor, the motion carried.
If. Old Business
S-83-2 Normandale Bluff
Gordon Hughes reminded the Commission that a subdivision request had been
considered on March 2 and March 30. On March 2, a subdivision proposing
two new, but substandard lots was reviewed and based upon comments by the
Commission, the proponent requested a continuance and returned on March 30, 1983,
with a new subdivision proposing one new lot which likewise did not comply with the
requirements of Zoning Ordinance. The Commission recommended denial of this
subdivision. The request was then heard by the Council on April 18, 1983,
and was referred back to the Commission at the proponent's request.
Mr. Hughes reported that the new plan submitted illustrates a three lot
subdivision that complies with the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. He
noted that such a subdivision is achieved by proposing a substantial remodeling
of the existing dwelling which would then permit three lots each measuring 75 feet
in width and 10,125 square feet in area.
He reminded them that the property is composed of four and one-half
pre-existing lots. The new lot now requested to the south of the existing
home comprises one and one-half of these pre-existing lots and the north line of
this new lot is the present north line of Lot 9. Therefore, this lot is already
"separated" by a lot line from the balance of the property and thus no new
subdivision is necessary. However, it is necessary for the existing dwelling to
provide the required setback from this lot line. A 10 foot setback is shown
and an estimated 13-14 foot setback required due to the height of the building
Thus, a side yard setback variance would be required for the existing house
prior to the issuance of a building permit for the new lot to the south.
The proposed lot to the north of the existing house is conditioned upon
the remodeling of the garage which would have to be accomplished prior to
final plat approval.
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Mr. Hughes recommended approval of the request based upon the
analysis that the proposed lots conform to the Zoning Ordinance and would
be compatible in size to other lots in the neighborhood. Recommended approval
is conditioned upon 1.) the remodeling of the garage as shown; and
2.) subdivision dedication.
Mr. and Mrs. Duncan Wallace were present to answer questions.
Mrs. Arlene Joern, 6433 Mildred Avenue, informed the Commission that
she had hired Robert Thene, an engineering consultant. She presented
copies of a letter from him and reviewed the major points in connection
with her property.
* The presence of a house high above the east of 6433 Mildred
would not enhance property value or saleability
* Surface water entering property from the northeast is causing some
distress presently and any increase will indeed cause severe
erosion and damage.
Mr. Thene recommended in his letter the following, if the proposed subdivision
were to be approved:
* In order to minimize its impact, a house on Parcel C should be of a
special walkout design, oriented as far northeast as possible and
locate the garage on the north side
* All increase runoff should be conducted to the street
* The kitchen from the present dwelling, if removed, should be placed
back inside the original house envelope and not expanded to the west
Mrs. Joern closed by saying that the neighbors were still opposed to
Wallace's request. She asked that the opposing neighbors stand to be noted.
Mr. Robert Price, 6412 Rolf Avenue, argued that the proposed 75 foot lots
were still not within the character of the neighborhood. He also noted that the
garage was a remodeled breezeway and did not conform in size to the Zoning
Ordinance's standards.
Mr. Gordon Johnson noted that the placement of a house on Parcel C
and the 18 foot drop towards the Joern house, is something that Planning
Commission would not address. It would be handled by the Board of Appeals
and Adjustments.
David Runyan added that the design of the house would correct much of the
possible run-off problem in addition to sodding. He explained that if approved,
this matter would continue on to the Board of Appeals and Adjustments if
seeking to build on Parce C. This Board generally conditioned approval
subject to plans presented. In addition, plans would need to be reviewed by
the Building Department before receiving a permit.
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Helen McClelland voiced her opposition to the proposal. She felt it was
not within the character of the neighborhood. She believed it should remain
one parcel.
Gordon Johnson stated that it was within the Zoning Ordinance's standards.
John Palmer questioned Mr. Hughes by what standards the Planning Commission
should follow when reaching a decision. Mr. Hughes replied that it must be
within the Zoning Ordinance regulations and coincide with the Comprehensive
Plan. John Palmer noted that the present request conformed to both
and that there could be no reason for denial.
Mr. Fredrick Oftel, 6400 Mildred Avenue, gave a slide presentation of the
homes in the neighborhood to illustrate the openness and the topography
problems of the site.
Mary McDonald objected to the proposal. She had voted in favor of the
previous proposal of the two lot subdivision and was in disagreement of the three
lot subdivision. She was concerned with a house being built on Parcel A.
John Palmer agreed, however, he would support the revised proposal
since it complied with the ordinance requirements.
Mrs. McClelland noted that this was a vary large house located in the
center of the property and should remain that way. John Palmer commented
that the house size was to be decreased and would be appropriate for the
proposed lot size.
Lowell Briar, 6413 Rolf Avenue S., noted that this large, older dwelling
should not be ruined as proposed with the remodeling.
Mrs. Joern reported that she had been in contact with the title holder
for the Wallace property and that she was very upset also. She argued that the
Wallaces would not have legal rights to make their desired modifications. Gordon
Johnson noted that this was not material for the Commision's decision. He moved
for approval of the three lot subdivision proposal. David Runyan seconded the
motion. All were in favor with the exception of Bill Lewis, Helen McClelland and
Mary McDonald who voted not. The motion carried.
III. New Business:
LD -83-1 7900 West 78th Street
Lots 2 & 3, Block 1, B raewood Park
Mr. Hughes reported that an office building was recently completed on
Lot 3 and a small portion of Lots 2 of Braemar Office Park. Construction is
scheduled to begin soon on a second office building which will be located on
portions of Lot 2 and 1. In order to allow the two office buildings to share a
common court yard and other amemities, the proponents are requesting a lot
division that would allow the two buildings to be placed in closer proximity
to each other.
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This division relocates the property line easterly by 25 feet.
A setback variance from the Board of Appeals and Adjustments would also
be required.
Mr. Hughes recommended approval subject to the grant of a setback variance.
Mr. Bill Jurchisin was present to answer questions.
John Palmer moved for approval of the lot division subject to the granting
of the setback variance from the Board of Appeals and Adjustments.
John Skagerberg seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion carried.
IV. Election of Officers
Gordon Johnson nominated Bill Lewis to remain in the position of
Chairman. Mary McDonald seconded the motion and moved for the renomination
of Gordon Johnson as Vice Chairman. Len Ring seconded the motion. All were
in favor. The motions carried.
V. Adjournment
Gordon Johnson moved for adjournment and Helen McClelland seconded the
motion. All were in favor; the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda D. Eisen
Secretary